Oldbear83 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Your posts proves a different truth from what you claim, cowboy.

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Lol no they don't.

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Enjoy your alternate 'reality', then

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It isn't alternate. It is the reality of the world. You just refuse to admit it.

Oldbear83 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You are ignoring the time aspect as well. Changes take years, a decade or more, to show up to any degree. Demanding instant results works for microwave popcorn, not Economic shifts.

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No I am not ignoring the time aspect. You are the one doing so. Changes do not take years.

In every historical example of a new technology replacing human jobs there are jobs created immediately by the new technology. Often in the production and maintenance of that technology. But not with AI.

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You can keep saying that. Won't make it any more true, but knock yourself out.

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Then prove me wrong.

I have provided facts and evidence. All you continue to do is to say it is wrong but provide no evidence.

None.

Provide the jobs AI has created. Prove that the introduction of the automobile did not immediately create new jobs.

You won't because you can't and will just continue your personal attacks

As the man said all those years ago, 'Lighten up, Francis'

I made my point, you threw your tantrum.

No need to repeat the same.

Have a great evening.

Oldbear83 said:

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As the man said all those years ago, 'Lighten up, Francis'

I made my point, you threw your tantrum.

No need to repeat the same.

Have a great evening.

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You haven't made a point.

But you have proved mine. You cannot provide facts. Only personal attacks.

cowboycwr said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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As the man said all those years ago, 'Lighten up, Francis'

I made my point, you threw your tantrum.

No need to repeat the same.

Have a great evening.

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You haven't made a point.

But you have proved mine. You cannot provide facts. Only personal attacks.

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No personal attacks, I merely observed you are panicking, which - deny it as you do - is accurate.

And I made my point plain. Several times, actually.

You disagree, but your claim that I have not provided facts is plainly wrong, as anyone reading the last page can see for themselves.

As for the rest, let's agree to disagree and move on. Bickering is fruitless and just annoys everyone trying to have a discussion.

Oldbear83 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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As the man said all those years ago, 'Lighten up, Francis'

I made my point, you threw your tantrum.

No need to repeat the same.

Have a great evening.

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You haven't made a point.

But you have proved mine. You cannot provide facts. Only personal attacks.

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No personal attacks, I merely observed you are panicking, which - deny it as you do - is accurate.

And I made my point plain. Several times, actually.

You disagree, but your claim that I have not provided facts is plainly wrong, as anyone reading the last page can see for themselves.

As for the rest, let's agree to disagree and move on. Bickering is fruitless and just annoys everyone trying to have a discussion.

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And still no facts from you.

There has been no panic from me. Just the facts that people are losing their jobs. Google it. It is a fact.

You have not made a point at all.

All you do is attack the messenger but not actually provide facts or discuss the issues I present.

Move on, son.

Oldbear83 said:

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Move on, son.

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I'm not your son old man.

But thanks again for proving my point. No facts just deflections.

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Amazon is starting something like that this year. Or trying to.

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I think it's close but gave it a pretty big time window to make it out into the communities.

These are the jobs that will be replaced for sure by AI. robots and autonomous driving.

Delivery trucks will run 24/7 and the occupants won't need health insurance or a pension.

New jobs will be in the technical servicing of robots and remote human tech support to help the robots troubleshoot situations like a locked fence or wrong address.

Progress!

… https://t.co/N34tNGiDUE

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 11, 2025

Car ownership will evolve in a similar fashion to how landline phones changed with the coming of the cell phone. At first, few gave up landlines because cell phones weren’t a complete substitute. As cell phone networks improved in quality and ubiquity, the rationale for paying… https://t.co/5NVg55LOoE

— jimmah (@jamesdouma) June 21, 2025

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I run across interesting items from time to time related to this so figured I'd start a thread for it.

Obviously…automation has already arrived…but it's impact on the workforce is potentially about to really accelerate with advancements in AI and robotics.

Lots of potential economic, political, and ethical issues to be figured out.

I have seen some futurists speculate about massive loss of needed jobs and possibly the need for a universal basic income. Interesting times ahead.

In China, farmers have begun to actively use humanoid robots in agriculture to spray chemicals against parasites pic.twitter.com/WVTLxUuvRo

— Sprinter Observer (@SprinterObserve) April 21, 2025

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That's fine now, until the robot lawyers start filing suits over exposure to Roundup.....

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"hey, it's too dangerous for a human to handle this pesticide/herbicide. So let's get a robot & go spray it on our food."

The @Tesla_AI robotaxi launch begins in Austin this afternoon with customers paying a $4.20 flat fee!

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 22, 2025

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Car ownership will evolve in a similar fashion to how landline phones changed with the coming of the cell phone. At first, few gave up landlines because cell phones weren’t a complete substitute. As cell phone networks improved in quality and ubiquity, the rationale for paying… https://t.co/5NVg55LOoE

— jimmah (@jamesdouma) June 21, 2025

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Maybe I am missing something but why will car ownership decline with the rise of AI, robots and self driving cars?

Do they think people will not buy cars so they can wait for the autonomous uber to show up??

Maybe in cities. And by in cities I mean downtowns of mid to large cities. (Anything Waco or larger) where downtown parking is a nightmare.

But suburbs people will need cars for everything still.

I just don't see people giving up their cars and then everyone trying to get an autonomous car to get to work at the same time, do grocery runs, etc.

I'm not ready to let a robot drive the car I'm in.

AI could unleash ‘deep societal upheavals’ that many elites are ignoring, Palantir, $PLTR, CEO Alex Karp has said per FORTUNE.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) June 23, 2025

"For about two-thirds of all jobs, 50% or more of those skills are things that today’s generative AI can do reasonably well, or very well," per Indeed

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) June 23, 2025

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I'm not ready to let a robot drive the car I'm in.

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I'm ready. Half the people on the road are reading their phones. If an AI is driving, at least SOMEBODY or SOMETHING is paying attention.

good point

What will be interesting is that RoboTaxis have a plethora of Tesla cameras on them. There is gonna be a ton of footage to analyze, both pro and con.

Musk has to hope he has a ton of liability insurance. The skeezers on the bottom will sue to get some of his billions

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The skeezers on the bottom will sue to get some of his billions

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Or Ken Paxton (Couldn't tell if you were including him with the skeezers).

Dyson is now growing strawberries with robots, spinning trays and UV lights, making farming super smart and fun 🍓 pic.twitter.com/VZL7DBS3Ag

— Tansu Yegen (@TansuYegen) June 27, 2025

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Dyson is now growing strawberries with robots, spinning trays and UV lights, making farming super smart and fun 🍓 pic.twitter.com/VZL7DBS3Ag

— Tansu Yegen (@TansuYegen) June 27, 2025

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Automated sweet berries farm.
Now if they build an automated cooked beef farm they can start mapping their Minecraft world!

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Dyson is now growing strawberries with robots, spinning trays and UV lights, making farming super smart and fun 🍓 pic.twitter.com/VZL7DBS3Ag

— Tansu Yegen (@TansuYegen) June 27, 2025

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Agriculture has been going this direction for the last 30 years.

This whole narrative that we need tens of millions of illegals to hand pick our produce is just a stupid lie.

KaiBear said:

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Assassin said:

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Dyson is now growing strawberries with robots, spinning trays and UV lights, making farming super smart and fun 🍓 pic.twitter.com/VZL7DBS3Ag

— Tansu Yegen (@TansuYegen) June 27, 2025

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Agriculture has been going this direction for the last 30 years.

This whole narrative that we need tens of millions of illegals to hand pick our produce is just a stupid lie.

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family farms can benefit from migrant workers (legal migration grant workers). Commercial farms should be using technology and not migrants

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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Assassin said:

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Dyson is now growing strawberries with robots, spinning trays and UV lights, making farming super smart and fun 🍓 pic.twitter.com/VZL7DBS3Ag

— Tansu Yegen (@TansuYegen) June 27, 2025

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Agriculture has been going this direction for the last 30 years.

This whole narrative that we need tens of millions of illegals to hand pick our produce is just a stupid lie.

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family farms can benefit from migrant workers (legal migration grant workers). Commercial farms should be using technology and not migrants

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LOL

We never hired wets even 35 years ago.

You simply can not put a man worth only 5 dollars an hour on a piece of machinary costing over $125,000 and expect things to work out.

KaiBear said:

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Dyson is now growing strawberries with robots, spinning trays and UV lights, making farming super smart and fun 🍓 pic.twitter.com/VZL7DBS3Ag

— Tansu Yegen (@TansuYegen) June 27, 2025

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Agriculture has been going this direction for the last 30 years.

This whole narrative that we need tens of millions of illegals to hand pick our produce is just a stupid lie.

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family farms can benefit from migrant workers (legal migration grant workers). Commercial farms should be using technology and not migrants

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LOL

We never hired wets even 35 years ago.

You simply can not put a man worth only 5 dollars an hour on a piece of machinary costing over $125,000 and expect things to work out.

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Common sense. A rare thing these days...

KaiBear said:

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Dyson is now growing strawberries with robots, spinning trays and UV lights, making farming super smart and fun 🍓 pic.twitter.com/VZL7DBS3Ag

— Tansu Yegen (@TansuYegen) June 27, 2025

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Agriculture has been going this direction for the last 30 years.

This whole narrative that we need tens of millions of illegals to hand pick our produce is just a stupid lie.

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The reality of what happened with the meatpacking plant in Nebraska basically proved the lies of most claims about the need of illegal alienating workers.

historian said:

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Dyson is now growing strawberries with robots, spinning trays and UV lights, making farming super smart and fun 🍓 pic.twitter.com/VZL7DBS3Ag

— Tansu Yegen (@TansuYegen) June 27, 2025

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Agriculture has been going this direction for the last 30 years.

This whole narrative that we need tens of millions of illegals to hand pick our produce is just a stupid lie.

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The reality of what happened with the meatpacking plant in Nebraska basically proved the lies of most claims about the need of illegal alienating workers.

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Money cures all problems.

Pay more....usually get better employees.

Exactly. The problem with some of these work places is that they want to pay sub standard wages and maintain less than safe work environments. Hiring illegals aliens makes it easier.

Microsoft has built an artificial intelligence-powered medical tool it claims is four times more successful than human doctors at diagnosing complex ailments, as the tech giant unveils research it believes could speed up treatment https://t.co/ODgdcMb5C3 pic.twitter.com/fNFTgTSBRt

— Financial Times (@FT) June 30, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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Microsoft has built an artificial intelligence-powered medical tool it claims is four times more successful than human doctors at diagnosing complex ailments, as the tech giant unveils research it believes could speed up treatment https://t.co/ODgdcMb5C3 pic.twitter.com/fNFTgTSBRt

— Financial Times (@FT) June 30, 2025

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How does AI balance compassion and financials.

I can see in places like Canada where a serious medical condition ends up looking like going through customs as you leave Mexico: hit the button, no light equals treatment; red light equals assisted suicide.

All technology works....until it fails, which it inevitably will.

boognish_bear said:

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Microsoft has built an artificial intelligence-powered medical tool it claims is four times more successful than human doctors at diagnosing complex ailments, as the tech giant unveils research it believes could speed up treatment https://t.co/ODgdcMb5C3 pic.twitter.com/fNFTgTSBRt

— Financial Times (@FT) June 30, 2025

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Given how often doctors, nurses and PAs are wrong on even minor issues I wonder how effective it would be at diagnosing those minor things at as well.

I for one would not mind a nurse gathering vitals and information, me telling the AI computer symptoms, what's wrong, etc. and it telling me what is wrong.

At least with the AI you would know it is listening and not thinking about other things, tired because it is the end of the shift/double shift, worried about home life or any of the 100 other thing that would make a human distracted.

I have experienced way too many of those above recently with family where it felt like I had to practically force the medical team to slow down, listen and check things again.