EatMoreSalmon said:

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The Apple Maps satellite image of lake Corpus Christi looks more like the image on the left.

https://maps.apple/p/~Qcvs-a-6-~jh0

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When was that image taken? Apple thinks I still have the lab who died 10 years ago.

Oldbear83 said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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The Apple Maps satellite image of lake Corpus Christi looks more like the image on the left.

https://maps.apple/p/~Qcvs-a-6-~jh0

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When was that image taken? Apple thinks I still have the lab who died 10 years ago.

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Our neighborhood is pretty up to date. Shows some pretty recent remodels.

Meanwhile, Saudi owned SABIC continues to pull 77 acre feet (25 million gallons) PER DAY unrestricted while the residents face rationing and fines. https://t.co/tiQ4nkp0JW

— Bo French (@bofrench) April 28, 2026

This is more convincing if you want data driven news showing the history of lake Corpus Christi. It is very bad.

https://waterdatafortexas.org/reservoirs/individual/corpus-christi

Coryell County commissioners are considering a resolution that would ask state lawmakers to impose stricter regulations on data centers.

🔗 https://t.co/YwxXP0kmhM pic.twitter.com/092JLr0AUE

— KWTX News 10 (@kwtx) April 29, 2026

BREAKING: Killeen just told Big Tech: No.

Texans, from Killeen to Athens to San Marcos, are fighting back to protect our homes, farms, and communities.

It's never too late to save our water, land, and the power to control our own destinies. pic.twitter.com/x8btNVjDjL

— Clayton Tucker (@ClaytonTuckerTX) April 28, 2026

EatMoreSalmon said:

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This is more convincing if you want data driven news showing the history of lake Corpus Christi. It is very bad.

https://waterdatafortexas.org/reservoirs/individual/corpus-christi

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That's what municipal lakes are for....to create a pool of water which insulates against variances of flow. Saying a river has X many gallons per day ON AVERAGE is only useful if you have a damn to capture & hold excess flows during rain events for used one days when flow is below average.

Corpus is not the first municipality to mismanage their responsibilities on water supply. They know what is their annual rainfall. They know the history of that lake (not the first iteration of low levels). And they are surrounded by literal oceans of water. Yet they waited too long to do anything, then came up with a bad plan.

I guess @elonmusk saw this coming and focused in on space datacenters.

— Gaurab Chakrabarti (@Gaurab) April 29, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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I guess @elonmusk saw this coming and focused in on space datacenters.

— Gaurab Chakrabarti (@Gaurab) April 29, 2026

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So what is the part that makes it take 4 years to get an engine?

cowboycwr said:

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boognish_bear said:

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I guess @elonmusk saw this coming and focused in on space datacenters.

— Gaurab Chakrabarti (@Gaurab) April 29, 2026

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So what is the part that makes it take 4 years to get an engine?

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This all new info to me...but from the tweet it sounds like finding the blades for the turbines is the issue. It says it takes 90 weeks to "grow" a new blade and only 3 companies on earth can make them.

mini-nuke plants are 24-36 months out, I'm told. if successful, it will likely be the wave of the future for large industrial operations of all types. Solves numerous problems.

more significantly, ERCOT has implemented new fees for data centers seeking to connect to the grid = $50k per megawat, or $50m per gigawatt.

Texas has somewhere between 600-1000 data center projects in some stage of development. What the article missed is that a large percentage of those projects are highly (unreasonably) speculative and a great many of them will not make it. But at the moment, they are all out seeking bids. Suppliers know that not all the projects will be viable, but cannot easily do triage. Ergo the published backlog timelines. The ERCOT fee will have the effect of separating wheat from chaff among speculative DC projects, as DC projects without tenants in hand will not be able to finance the fees. That will help (although not eliminate) the backlog.

Some natural gas suppliers have generators and/or key generation equipment in hand, or in the pipeline.....as a way to hedge against the development boom. They need to make sure they only contract their gas to companies who can actually burn gas. So they can offer package deals to the right customers....

son in law just got hired by fusion company, Mech /Nuclear Engineer.

FLBear5630 said:

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son in law just got hired by fusion company, Mech /Nuclear Engineer.

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The one connected to MIT?

Headline is misleading. China didn’t ban AI replacement.
A Hangzhou court ruled in ONE specific case: a QA worker (Zhou) had his salary cut from 25k to 15k yuan because AI did part of his job. He refused, got fired, sued, won.
The actual legal principle is sharper than the tweet:…

— Matias Fonseca (@matiasfonsec) May 1, 2026

yes

FLBear5630 said:

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yes

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Cool. Seems like a very viable fusion plan to make to power production.

The City of Phoenix announces they are preparing for new water restrictions, including charging people who use a lot of water due to a shortage of water

Residents will be on water restrictions, meanwhile Arizona has allowed 24 data centers to be built, with roughly 30 more being… pic.twitter.com/IfxWSFyYin

— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) May 1, 2026

Abilene, TX should be the poster child for how data centers can destroy an area. Rents are now sky high, traffic is terrible, and residents are furious. This in a city with water scarcity. https://t.co/sQPCDQcFQ2

— Joel Montfort (@jmontforttx) May 2, 2026

This would piss me off if I lived in that community

Another reason to hate all these data centers being built in Texas is the outrageous nighttime lighting that can be seen for miles. https://t.co/4VqAWhGXU1

— Joel Montfort (@jmontforttx) May 2, 2026

“Why are we still flooding tech with hundreds of thousands of H-1B workers… right as AI is about to wipe out 50% of those jobs?”

Tucker Carlson nails the insanity:

“We’re bringing in hundreds of thousands of H-1B visa workers — mostly from India — into tech jobs… at exactly… pic.twitter.com/8M74Ng9ilA

— Hany Girgis (@SanDiegoKnight) May 1, 2026

New data centers are popping up across the country, driving up utility bills in at least 13 states. According to a new analysis, Americans who live near the centers are paying as much as 267% more a month for energy than five years ago. pic.twitter.com/uwuscPdskT

— CBS Evening News with Tony Dokoupil (@CBSEveningNews) May 2, 2026

These AI centers in Texas need to be completely SHUT DOWN AND REMOVED!!! Texans had no vote in this and they are depleting our water systems STATE WIDE!!!! We need this water for land, crops, cattle AND PEOPLE, not to keep our DATA!!!! https://t.co/JAf8Wxxm8i

— Texascowgirl (@seasonedcowgirl) May 2, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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This would piss me off if I lived in that community

Another reason to hate all these data centers being built in Texas is the outrageous nighttime lighting that can be seen for miles. https://t.co/4VqAWhGXU1

— Joel Montfort (@jmontforttx) May 2, 2026

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Why would data centers need any more light than other large industrial sites?

Tech layoffs are skyrocketing:

Tech companies announced 81,747 layoffs in Q1 2026, the highest quarterly total since at least Q1 2024.

Layoffs have more than DOUBLED from the previous quarter and have risen +580% since Q4 2025.

March alone saw 45,800 announced job cuts, the… pic.twitter.com/yhWwg78gyI

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) May 2, 2026

EatMoreSalmon said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This would piss me off if I lived in that community

Another reason to hate all these data centers being built in Texas is the outrageous nighttime lighting that can be seen for miles. https://t.co/4VqAWhGXU1

— Joel Montfort (@jmontforttx) May 2, 2026

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Why would data centers need any more light than other large industrial sites?

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Wonder if this is just during the construction phase

boognish_bear said:

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Abilene, TX should be the poster child for how data centers can destroy an area. Rents are now sky high, traffic is terrible, and residents are furious. This in a city with water scarcity. https://t.co/sQPCDQcFQ2

— Joel Montfort (@jmontforttx) May 2, 2026

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you probably shoulda checked that guy's feed.

rent spikes due to temporary workers is not a data center problem. It's a city planning problem. They did not build enough man-camps to house the workers.

Doesn't matter whether temp workers are building a data center or a new military base. Massive construction sites bring in lots of construction workers. Cities gotta plan for that......

boognish_bear said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This would piss me off if I lived in that community

Another reason to hate all these data centers being built in Texas is the outrageous nighttime lighting that can be seen for miles. https://t.co/4VqAWhGXU1

— Joel Montfort (@jmontforttx) May 2, 2026

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Why would data centers need any more light than other large industrial sites?

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Wonder if this is just during the construction phase

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They don't need more light than any other building. Less, in fact. They have no windows. Just exterior lighting for security and parking lots. Problem is, on a large DC project, there will be dozens of buildings, each of them with security lighting, parking lot lighting, etc....

Take any rural area, erect 20-30 Super WalMarts, you're gonna get light glow at night in an area that has never had any. Things can be done about that to help....reducing the number of lights, downward facing exterior lights, etc..... but development is development. Lights at night are part of it. Again, none of that is unique to data centers.

boognish_bear said:

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These AI centers in Texas need to be completely SHUT DOWN AND REMOVED!!! Texans had no vote in this and they are depleting our water systems STATE WIDE!!!! We need this water for land, crops, cattle AND PEOPLE, not to keep our DATA!!!! https://t.co/JAf8Wxxm8i

— Texascowgirl (@seasonedcowgirl) May 2, 2026

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when DO citizens get a vote on industrial development projects?

Answer: the system is sorta designed to not let them have that. The system is designed to establish planning & zoning and ordinances to make it clear to investors in advance what is allowed or not in any given area. Councils can vote to extend or not abatements and other incentives. They can vote to grand or not special requests for exceptions or changes to rules. And for sure they have a long chain of things they can do to enforce existing codes. But in the main, councils do not have standing to require prior approval for each new business coming to town. If they want to stop certain things from happening, they have to amend codes & ordinances & zoning for any new investors coming to town.

Of course, unincorporated areas in most states, little or none of that applies. In Tx, there basically are no rules beyond state air & water quality permits. Pretty much anything is allowed. mobile home parks. Pig farms. Dairies. And, yes.....data centers.

This wild-eyed opposition to Data Centers is incredibly irrational, full of the full gamut of rhetorical nonsense. Luddism reincarnated.

Actually, it's rational and natural.

Anyone else notice the specific posts white rock did not challenge? He was silent on the ones that had any data or facts on water or electrical use and the data centers.

Not a peep.

As usual.

He ignores those ones and if he does comment it is always "those are wrong." But he never provides links to prove they are not using more electricity or water or causing locals bills to skyrocket.

cowboycwr said:

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Anyone else notice the specific posts white rock did not challenge? He was silent on the ones that had any data or facts on water or electrical use and the data centers.

Not a peep.

As usual.

He ignores those ones and if he does comment it is always "those are wrong." But he never provides links to prove they are not using more electricity or water or causing locals bills to skyrocket.

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Which ones did I ignore?

Oldbear83 said:

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Actually, it's rational and natural.

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No. It's nuts. Fails every test of reason.

Sure. DCs are large. Yes. They require lots of water & power. For that investment, they generate tremendous wealth. They generate tremendous tax base. Their development will also bring trillions of dollars of new water & sewer pipe, new electrical lines, new electrical generation capacity, etc....that taxpayers will NOT have to pay for. In other words, these DCs more than pay their way, on multiple levels.

More to the point, almost all of the criticisms of them are one or more (usually more) of the following: anecdotal arguments arguments, weak-man arguments, straw-man arguments, failing basic math, physics, and engineering critiques, etc.... What difference does it make if 20 different companies each build 10ac factories in an industrial park, or a single tenant build those same 20 buildings for its own use? No, the DC doesn't create as many jobs per dollar of investment as other industrial operations, but then other industrial operations don't create nearly as much tax base per dollar of inputs as the DCs do. I'm not arguing for one over the other. I'm want both. I want DCs. I want car manufacturing plants. I want steel & aluminum mills, rare earth mining and refinement. I want it all. That will require a lot more power plants to be built. And that's good. We need them. They create good paying jobs, and energy is not immune to supply/demand curves. If we want cheaper energy, we're going to have to build more internal combustion energy plants. All of those things, DCs and power plants included, create wildly better paying jobs & careers than Starbucks.

What do Ford Motors and US Steel mills and Starbucks and McDonalds and Target and WalMart and Westinghouse and Goodyear and Mardel Christian bookstores and millions of small businesses up & down the main streets of our country all have in common? None of them could, today, do business without the internet, which exists inside data center complexes all across the world (but mostly here). I mean, where the hell do the critics think a credit card transaction occurs in a nearly cashless economy?

So, yeah, this wild-eyed opposition to DCs is flipping incredible. It's like refusing to buy a new clothes washing machine for fear it might get your clothes wet. (btw, the instructions and specifications and warranty enrollment for that new washing machine will all on the internet.......)

Ford CEO Jim Farley: We should not let Chinese EVs into the US.

Jim himself drove a Chinese Xiaomi Su7 and has been to China 6-7 times a year.

He said, "It's the most humbling thing I've ever seen. They have far superior in-vehicle tech."

Can't win, so they ban. pic.twitter.com/kGa0fPHr2Y

— Li Zexin 李泽欣 (@XH_Lee23) May 3, 2026