War with Iran?

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In reply to Oldbear83 • 9:49p, 6/21/25
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No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin

X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.

But you dont want me to die, right?
Depends. Have you strapped a bomb to your chest, and are taking orders from a Mullah on where to blow up Americans, Israelis or maybe a schoolyard of children?

Your last several posts indicate that may be a possibility, so I had to ask.

Hey, at least you are honest about wanting me to die for not supporting Israel's Middle East wars.

You are sick and evil... but honest.

You share a lot in common with the radical Islamists.
You are still lying, I see.

First about Trump's campaign promises (hint the main one was securing the border and the second was trade, but you knew that), and now pretending that I want you to die when I said nothing of the kind.

I simply questioned your motive, as your apparent desire is to hurt Americans and their allies.

I notice you did not deny such a desire.

I want to hurt Americans?

Who is lying now?
I asked your intentions. All you have done in reply is lie about what I said and duck the question.

I get it, your buddies in Teheran are having a bad day, but if you don't hate Americans, it should be easy enough for you to admit it's a good thing Iran's program is in much worse shape than this morning.

I guess its hard to celebrate that we will probably now see dead American soldiers all bcs Iran wanted to keep a civilian nuclear program.

There was absolutely no need to involve our military in this.

Israel could have ended Iran's civil nuclear program without us.

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In reply to KaiBear • 9:50p, 6/21/25
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Youre a clown said:
Porteroso said:
It's interesting that Iran says they evacuated the 3 sites, nobody died as a result of the U.S. strikes, and there is nothing at the 3 sites that would cause radiation leakage. It's almost like they prepared for this, and were ok with it. I wonder if they feel like they can't back down or appear to be giving ground while Israel is bombing, but are ok with the U.S. bombing the sites so Israel has less of a reason to keep attacking. They could never say all of that openly.

Anyways, to the posters who said we couldn't do it, yes we can achieve total perfect victory anytime we want in the skies of a nation like Iran.

The only way I'm ok with it though, is if that was it, finito, and if we push for Israel to stop attacking. The fact that it cost 0 lives is surprising to me, and very good news.


I would have to imagine that there's tons of satellites watching those sites 24/7. If they moved material, I'd be shocked if we didn't know about it. Also, not some sort of expert nuclear engineer, but I doubt that there's just an infinite number of sites that they can take the stuff to that's impregnable to bombs
Israel has spies within the Iranian military and government providing solid intel.

Add in our satellites over the area 24/7 and nothing is going to be moved without us knowing about it.

Trump did the right thing....however we are clearly now in a war with Iran.

And Americans are going to be killed as a result.

Beginning with soft targets right here in the US.

Be careful folks.


I guess I have a very strict view of what "at war" means. It seems like we're assuming that Iran wasn't already scheming terrorist activity before this happened. I imagine they've been dreaming that kind of stuff up for years, and they will gladly commit such acts whether we drop a few bombs on them or not. Also, they've already shot missiles at our bases beforehand, and nobody was calling it a "war" back then. Basically, our relation with Iran basically flips from 'bad' to 'really bad'. It just happens to be 'really bad' right now.

As far as the people being on their guard, I agree. Carry a gun with you and learn how to shoot it, especially if you're going to go to crowded public places. Just my two cents
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9:52p, 6/21/25
I've never understood why using hyperbole in an argument works anyway. It seems as trite as name calling.

It even happens in the courtroom sometimes.

I crave peace. I don"t want anyone to die.

But the truth is whether today happened or not, there will be no peace.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 9:56p, 6/21/25
Oldbear83 said:
You are sure upset Iran's nuclear ambitions took a hit.

And yes, we voted for this too. Check the polls, most Americans support preventing Iran from getting a nuke, and this was necessary to that end.

No invasion

No troops on the ground

Completely transparent all the way.


That CNN poll was 50/50 on airstrikes.

And polls are always used to push an agenda.

There was never a majority of Americans clamoring for America to get involved.

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In reply to boognish_bear • 9:57p, 6/21/25
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Good out for Putin. He's not wrong. Lots of Jews fled the Soviet Union.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 9:58p, 6/21/25
The_barBEARian said:
Oldbear83 said:
The_barBEARian said:
Oldbear83 said:
The_barBEARian said:
Oldbear83 said:
The_barBEARian said:
Mothra said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
Youre a clown said:
No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin

X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.

But you dont want me to die, right?
Depends. Have you strapped a bomb to your chest, and are taking orders from a Mullah on where to blow up Americans, Israelis or maybe a schoolyard of children?

Your last several posts indicate that may be a possibility, so I had to ask.

Hey, at least you are honest about wanting me to die for not supporting Israel's Middle East wars.

You are sick and evil... but honest.

You share a lot in common with the radical Islamists.
You are still lying, I see.

First about Trump's campaign promises (hint the main one was securing the border and the second was trade, but you knew that), and now pretending that I want you to die when I said nothing of the kind.

I simply questioned your motive, as your apparent desire is to hurt Americans and their allies.

I notice you did not deny such a desire.

I want to hurt Americans?

Who is lying now?
I asked your intentions. All you have done in reply is lie about what I said and duck the question.

I get it, your buddies in Teheran are having a bad day, but if you don't hate Americans, it should be easy enough for you to admit it's a good thing Iran's program is in much worse shape than this morning.

I guess its hard to celebrate that we will probably now see dead American soldiers all bcs Iran wanted to keep a civilian nuclear program.

There was absolutely no need to involve our military in this.

Israel could have ended Iran's civil nuclear program without us.

In theory, I wish that Israel would have actually dropped the bunker buster bombs instead of U.S. bombers.

I don't think Iran will escalate. It will be the shortest war in history.

You still never answered my question. Why do you hate people 50 years and older? I wish you would at least attempt to explain. I will certainly never apologize for for being over 50 and for being white. I really had no say in either circumstance. You should take that up with my parents.
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In reply to Youre a clown • 10:01p, 6/21/25
Youre a clown said:
No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


It's not really Iran I am concerned about. It's about the well-armed proxy armies that are losing their sugar daddies.

They know they have no chance of survival in an organized altercation, but they can glorify Allah and themselves in other ways.
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In reply to Mothra • 10:02p, 6/21/25
Mothra said:
KaiBear said:
Youre a clown said:
Porteroso said:
It's interesting that Iran says they evacuated the 3 sites, nobody died as a result of the U.S. strikes, and there is nothing at the 3 sites that would cause radiation leakage. It's almost like they prepared for this, and were ok with it. I wonder if they feel like they can't back down or appear to be giving ground while Israel is bombing, but are ok with the U.S. bombing the sites so Israel has less of a reason to keep attacking. They could never say all of that openly.

Anyways, to the posters who said we couldn't do it, yes we can achieve total perfect victory anytime we want in the skies of a nation like Iran.

The only way I'm ok with it though, is if that was it, finito, and if we push for Israel to stop attacking. The fact that it cost 0 lives is surprising to me, and very good news.


I would have to imagine that there's tons of satellites watching those sites 24/7. If they moved material, I'd be shocked if we didn't know about it. Also, not some sort of expert nuclear engineer, but I doubt that there's just an infinite number of sites that they can take the stuff to that's impregnable to bombs
Israel has spies within the Iranian military and government providing solid intel.

Add in our satellites over the area 24/7 and nothing is going to be moved without us knowing about it.

Trump did the right thing....however we are clearly now in a war with Iran.

And Americans are going to be killed as a result.

Beginning with soft targets right here in the US.

Be careful folks.



More likely they will try to strike US bases in the ME. I'm sure the U.S. has taken precautions to protect those assets.

Also not sure we are in a "war" unless you consider a few air strikes a war. I'd call it more a skirmish and I'm not terribly worried about then having much success with their missiles.


Biden invited millions of completely unvetted individuals through his policies of open borders.

Obviously hundreds could be terrorists willing to die to kill Americans wherever possible.

Some will be high profile …..most will be average Americans.

Again, Trump made the only call possible after years of failed negotiations.

But this is the our big moment…..some **** is coming our way.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 10:04p, 6/21/25
The_barBEARian said:
Oldbear83 said:
You are sure upset Iran's nuclear ambitions took a hit.

And yes, we voted for this too. Check the polls, most Americans support preventing Iran from getting a nuke, and this was necessary to that end.

No invasion

No troops on the ground

Completely transparent all the way.


That CNN poll was 50/50 on airstrikes.

And polls are always used to push an agenda.

There was never a majority of Americans clamoring for America to get involved.

Your mullahs gambled and lost.

Cry more.
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10:05p, 6/21/25
An inevitable truth of life: as long as there is more than one person on this planet, there will never be peace.
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In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 10:06p, 6/21/25
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
The_barBEARian said:
Oldbear83 said:
The_barBEARian said:
Oldbear83 said:
The_barBEARian said:
Oldbear83 said:
The_barBEARian said:
Mothra said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
Youre a clown said:
No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin

X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.

But you dont want me to die, right?
Depends. Have you strapped a bomb to your chest, and are taking orders from a Mullah on where to blow up Americans, Israelis or maybe a schoolyard of children?

Your last several posts indicate that may be a possibility, so I had to ask.

Hey, at least you are honest about wanting me to die for not supporting Israel's Middle East wars.

You are sick and evil... but honest.

You share a lot in common with the radical Islamists.
You are still lying, I see.

First about Trump's campaign promises (hint the main one was securing the border and the second was trade, but you knew that), and now pretending that I want you to die when I said nothing of the kind.

I simply questioned your motive, as your apparent desire is to hurt Americans and their allies.

I notice you did not deny such a desire.

I want to hurt Americans?

Who is lying now?
I asked your intentions. All you have done in reply is lie about what I said and duck the question.

I get it, your buddies in Teheran are having a bad day, but if you don't hate Americans, it should be easy enough for you to admit it's a good thing Iran's program is in much worse shape than this morning.

I guess its hard to celebrate that we will probably now see dead American soldiers all bcs Iran wanted to keep a civilian nuclear program.

There was absolutely no need to involve our military in this.

Israel could have ended Iran's civil nuclear program without us.

In theory, I wish that Israel would have actually dropped the bunker buster bombs instead of U.S. bombers.

I don't think Iran will escalate. It will be the shortest war in history.

You still never answered my question. Why do you hate people 50 years and older? I wish you would at least attempt to explain. I will certainly never apologize for for being over 50 and for being white. I really had no say in either circumstance.

Its just a fact that the loudest voices supporting these never-ending wars are always Boomers or Gen Xers.

I'm tired of the Federal government focusing on stupid **** and not improving quality of life and reducing cost of living.

Just yesterday Trump was talking about selling Federal land to build more housing.... How about we keep our national parks and deport illegals and stop giving half of India H1B visas?

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In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 10:11p, 6/21/25
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The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
Youre a clown said:
No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin

X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...
Dude. This kind of talk is really uncalled for. Discuss, make your point, and leave it at that.

Not sure I understand your obsessive hate for Israel and the Jewish people.

I especially don't understand your hatred for people over 50. Wish you would explain it to us.

Relax, have a couple of stiff drinks, and enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Yep, he's so anti-jew that he acts like Iran is a peaceful neutral nation.

I get not wanting US boots on the ground. I certainly don't. But who's going to deny that Iran is a terrorist state and doesn't need dealing with?

This is one of those calls, that you just have to trust that Trump is making with good intel. Hard to know, given Iraq, given the deep state, given Israel intelligence potential omissions, but Iran has made it loud and clear they hate us and want us to pay along with Israel.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 10:15p, 6/21/25
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Eh...we will see

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In reply to TinFoilHatPreacherBear • 10:22p, 6/21/25
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
Youre a clown said:
No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin

X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...
Dude. This kind of talk is really uncalled for. Discuss, make your point, and leave it at that.

Not sure I understand your obsessive hate for Israel and the Jewish people.

I especially don't understand your hatred for people over 50. Wish you would explain it to us.

Relax, have a couple of stiff drinks, and enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Yep, he's so anti-jew that he acts like Iran is a peaceful neutral nation.

I get not wanting US boots on the ground. I certainly don't. But who's going to deny that Iran is a terrorist state and doesn't need dealing with?

This is one of those calls, that you just have to trust that Trump is making with good intel. Hard to know, given Iraq, given the deep state, given Israel intelligence potential omissions, but Iran has made it loud and clear they hate us and want us to pay along with Israel.

Israel is the most peaceful nation on earth, right?

We should give Epstein the Nobel Peace Prize for peacefully raping all those children.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 10:29p, 6/21/25
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Eh...we will see

Not sure what else they would say.

But I agree, seems a bit premature to know. Just hoping our assessment is solid.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 10:30p, 6/21/25
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Show me the posts where you complained about Obama's drone strikes.

lol but Omama!!!
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In reply to ron.reagan • 10:31p, 6/21/25
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LIB,MR BEARS said:
ron.reagan said:
US just entered the war with a tweet?

Nope. Trump just created huge traffic jams in Tehran making it nearly impossible to resupply rocket launchers in the area. Also escort vehicles in the area will announce their location with emergency lights as they try to get through the traffic jam.

Trump created a logistical nightmare for Iran with a tweet. The IDF will take care of the rest.
You are giving this guy a bit too much credit I think. Unfortunately I think we will be in this war in 24 hours
It turned out it wasn't about a traffic jam
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In reply to whiterock • 10:32p, 6/21/25
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boognish_bear said:

I fervently hope Democrats double down on this line of attack.

Why not? Was he in the right? I think maybe, but had Biden done the same thing, wouldn't far righties be calling for impeachment?
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JUST IN Sean Hannity just spoke to the president and confirmed that the US dropped SIX bunker buster bombs on Fordow completely destroying it. The other two main nuclear sites, Natanz and Ispahan were destroyed by 30 tomahawk missiles launched from submarines.
SIX
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These idiots really are trying to end up like Gaddafi uh?

[The NTC initially claimed Gaddafi succumbed to injuries sustained in a firefight when loyalist forces attempted to free him, although a video of his last moments shows rebel fighters beating him and one of them sodomizing him with a bayonet before he was shot several times]
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In reply to Yogi • 10:47p, 6/21/25
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I would expect a terrorist attack on American soil or against an American interest on July 4.

Everyone be careful.

The proxies are about to go scorched earth.

They might not be able to do that. They have been largely eviscerated. They are finding out.
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10:47p, 6/21/25
Of course they are going to say something like this...but what can they actually pull off

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I cant get a tax cut extension... but Israel gets money printed to fight its wars...
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In reply to boognish_bear • 10:59p, 6/21/25
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This site was built for one purpose. A military purpose. We all know it.
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Follow what Fetterman has to say about it. One of the few dems who have an open mind here.

Iran literally could not continue with their enriched uranium objectives. They refused to stop. Israel couldn't do what the US just did.

I think this was the right decision. I wish there were some other way to achieve the objective.
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