War with Iran?

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In reply to Jacques Strap • 5:53p, 6/22/25
Jacques Strap said:

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estimates from the mid-2000s.

Things were a lot more affordable 20 years ago pre-Iraq war.
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In reply to ron.reagan • 5:56p, 6/22/25
ron.reagan said:
boognish_bear said:
If bombing was an act of war we'd have dozens of concurrent wars going on at all times


If Brazil flew some bombers over our nuclear sites in Nevada and bombed them to hell and back……which president , past or present would not act as though it was an act of war ?

Of course it's an act of war.

Now we see what happens next.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 6:05p, 6/22/25
The_barBEARian said:


Neo-Cons? Does he mean Trump?
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 6:08p, 6/22/25
FLBear5630 said:
The_barBEARian said:


Neo-Cons? Does he mean Trump? He is now talking Regine change. This is the Neo-Con playbook. MAGA????
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 6:28p, 6/22/25
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LOL quoting that turd. How does David Duke feel about the recent events?
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 6:49p, 6/22/25
Doc Holliday said:
It's not propaganda, it's common sense. None of these moves make any sense without regime change. Sorry not sorry about your junk barbARYAN.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 6:52p, 6/22/25
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GrowlTowel said:
I am not sure what all the fuss was about. The whole thing from beginning to end was a mostly peaceful bombing run.


We will wait until tomorrow for them to tell us what to think. Whatever it is, it will be pro-Donald.

The propaganda and attacks against those that disagree with this Administration is unreal.

Massey is now out of MAGA.


Have you not followed politics very long?
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In reply to GrowlTowel • 7:13p, 6/22/25
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
I am not sure what all the fuss was about. The whole thing from beginning to end was a mostly peaceful bombing run.


We will wait until tomorrow for them to tell us what to think. Whatever it is, it will be pro-Donald.

The propaganda and attacks against those that disagree with this Administration is unreal.

Massey is now out of MAGA.


Have you not followed politics very long?


Yeah, my comments are for the MAGA crowd. You know the ones doing the gymnastics to make this fit the Trump is different narrative. You know, no foreign wars, cut annual spending, lower deficit, etc...
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In reply to boognish_bear • 7:14p, 6/22/25
boognish_bear said:
he has 48 hours to speak to Congress and I don't believe it has to be all of Congress.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 7:16p, 6/22/25
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Oldbear83 said:
Cry more, Iran isn't getting that nuke and the terrorists are going to get caught.

He ran on no NEW wars.

He violated his biggest campaign promise.

No one voted for war with Iran.

We voted for secure borders, low inflation, and tax cuts.

Correct

He also repeatedly said Iran old not get nukes

World politics is not black and white


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In reply to Mothra • 7:18p, 6/22/25
Mothra said:
Yogi said:
50 hits you before you ever realize it.


lol. No.

Your knees will tell you
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 7:21p, 6/22/25
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Mothra said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
Youre a clown said:
No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin

X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.

But you dont want me to die, right?

At a ripe old age after taking Christ's free gift of grace
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In reply to boognish_bear • 7:40p, 6/22/25
boognish_bear said:


Why would they?

#outsourcedforeignpolicy
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 7:44p, 6/22/25
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
I am not sure what all the fuss was about. The whole thing from beginning to end was a mostly peaceful bombing run.


We will wait until tomorrow for them to tell us what to think. Whatever it is, it will be pro-Donald.

The propaganda and attacks against those that disagree with this Administration is unreal.

Massey is now out of MAGA.


Have you not followed politics very long?


Yeah, my comments are for the MAGA crowd. You know the ones doing the gymnastics to make this fit the Trump is different narrative. You know, no foreign wars, cut annual spending, lower deficit, etc...
Who on here fits that description?

I think Trump is going all in on representing boomercons. It's pissin me off.


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In reply to ron.reagan • 7:46p, 6/22/25
ron.reagan said:
ron.reagan said:
LIB,MR BEARS said:
ron.reagan said:
US just entered the war with a tweet?

Nope. Trump just created huge traffic jams in Tehran making it nearly impossible to resupply rocket launchers in the area. Also escort vehicles in the area will announce their location with emergency lights as they try to get through the traffic jam.

Trump created a logistical nightmare for Iran with a tweet. The IDF will take care of the rest.
You are giving this guy a bit too much credit I think. Unfortunately I think we will be in this war in 24 hours
It turned out it wasn't about a traffic jam

No, not by itself it wasn't.

Something else I was wrong about is a lend-lease of B1s and selling the GBU-57 30,000 pound bunker busters to Israel. It seems the B1 can't carry the GBU-57. F15Es can carry GBU-28s but they're only 4-5000 pounds and wouldn't have done the job

Only the B2 Spirit can carry the GBU-57 (x2) and we're not loaning or selling any of those.
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In reply to DioNoZeus • 7:54p, 6/22/25
DioNoZeus said:
Doc Holliday said:
It's not propaganda, it's common sense. None of these moves make any sense without regime change. Sorry not sorry about your junk barbARYAN.
As if to prove Doc Holliday's point. From conspiracy theory to "common sense" literally overnight.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 7:55p, 6/22/25
Yeah I'm ok with firing her
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 8:02p, 6/22/25
Doc Holliday said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
I am not sure what all the fuss was about. The whole thing from beginning to end was a mostly peaceful bombing run.


We will wait until tomorrow for them to tell us what to think. Whatever it is, it will be pro-Donald.

The propaganda and attacks against those that disagree with this Administration is unreal.

Massey is now out of MAGA.


Have you not followed politics very long?


Yeah, my comments are for the MAGA crowd. You know the ones doing the gymnastics to make this fit the Trump is different narrative. You know, no foreign wars, cut annual spending, lower deficit, etc...
Who on here fits that description?

I think Trump is going all in on representing boomercons. It's pissin me off.




Respect .. you have a position and are sticking to it. May not agree, but you are credible. Can't solve anything with people that move the goal posts...
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 8:08p, 6/22/25
Sam Lowry said:
DioNoZeus said:
Doc Holliday said:
It's not propaganda, it's common sense. None of these moves make any sense without regime change. Sorry not sorry about your junk barbARYAN.
As if to prove Doc Holliday's point. From conspiracy theory to "common sense" literally overnight.
Sorry you bot brain isn't able to process information in real time
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In reply to boognish_bear • 8:12p, 6/22/25
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Yet the people on this board tell me I'm obsessed and crazy...
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 8:17p, 6/22/25
Sam Lowry said:
whiterock said:
Sam Lowry said:
Mothra said:
whiterock said:
Sam Lowry said:
whiterock said:
Mothra said:
TexasScientist said:
Realitybites said:
Sunni Islam has been responsible for more US deaths over the past 20 years than Iran, starting with the 3000+ killed by Saudi Arabians on 9/11.

What my plan is? Tell the world unequivocally that we will not be attacking Iran at this time and get both parties back to the negotiating table along with Russian, Chinese, and Arab league negotiators to see what can be done. Sort of like what was going on before Israel unilaterally pearl harbored them.

Netanyahu's appetite for war will diminish dramatically should he realize that in ten days when Israel runs out of interceptors that we aren't giving him our credit card for that 200 million a day bill.

You start from the rational premise that no country's leadership want the gravy train to end, and you quickly realize that regime change operations run the greatest risk of sparking irrational action by any country.
The problem is Russia, China, and Iran, aren't interested is seriously negotiating a nuclear deal. Their goal is for a nuclear armed Iran, full stop. That's why we're where we are today. Iran has never abandoned its goal for a nuclear weapon. Continued negotiations guarantees they'll reach there goal.
Yup.

Which is why regime change is the only practical option. There is no practical solution that does not involve a new regime willing to adopt a policy of abandoning nukes and seeking more constructive foreign policy toward western interests.

Iran has always been the most vulnerable of the 4 Axis powers. Keep up the pressure. Then escalate.

Trying to eliminate 28k ballistic missiles is not practical. Eliminate the leadership that controls them. Then deal with the new regime. Nato is more than tacitly on board for much a policy. THEY are actually under the umbrella of Iranian missiles. Nato aircraft (more than just ours) have been supporting Israel directly (not over Iranian airspace). Turkey has a border with Iran. Azerbaijan has a border with Iran (as well as a close relationship with both Israel and Turkey). And we have assets on the ground in Iraqi Kurdistan. There are substantial Azeri, Turk, and Kurds (and several more) minorities in Northern Iran. So you can take it to the bank that money, arms, ammo, trainers, etc….are on the ground
Right now (and have been for weeks) to destabilize and foment mischief inside Iran.

No invasion required. Make Iran ungovernable. Deal with a new government.

The government is more likely to collapse in Israel as a result of this than Iran.

Do you say stupid stuff just for exercise?


He's done it for years. He's batting less than .100 in his predictions.
I'll admit I was embarrassed when Bush found WMD in Iraq, we defeated the Taliban in Afghanistan, and Ukraine smashed through Russian lines and retook Crimea. Other than that I've done pretty well.

LOL erected three T-balls and only managed to bat .500
3/3 so far, looking at 4/4 as soon as we hear those centrifuges are up and running.

Keep a good thought
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In reply to LIB,MR BEARS • 8:26p, 6/22/25
LIB,MR BEARS said:
The_barBEARian said:
Oldbear83 said:
Cry more, Iran isn't getting that nuke and the terrorists are going to get caught.

He ran on no NEW wars.

He violated his biggest campaign promise.

No one voted for war with Iran.

We voted for secure borders, low inflation, and tax cuts.

Correct

He also repeatedly said Iran old not get nukes

World politics is not black and white



We won't get dragged onto Middle East wars is pretty black and white. It's ok if that was it, as far as we will go. If it's regime change, it really blows up the narrative?

Trump tha PEACE MAKER
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In reply to DioNoZeus • 8:28p, 6/22/25
DioNoZeus said:
Sam Lowry said:
DioNoZeus said:
Doc Holliday said:
It's not propaganda, it's common sense. None of these moves make any sense without regime change. Sorry not sorry about your junk barbARYAN.
As if to prove Doc Holliday's point. From conspiracy theory to "common sense" literally overnight.
Sorry you bot brain isn't able to process information in real time
I processed it a long time ago. I just assumed the warmongers would want to test the current for a week or two before taking the plunge into stone cold honesty. Unknown waters can be hazardous, after all. But it's clearly an intoxicating moment...so party on!
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In reply to boognish_bear • 8:29p, 6/22/25
boognish_bear said:

It's hard to tell if she was joking or not. Not a fan of canceling people for 1 comment.
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In reply to Porteroso • 8:31p, 6/22/25
Porteroso said:
LIB,MR BEARS said:
The_barBEARian said:
Oldbear83 said:
Cry more, Iran isn't getting that nuke and the terrorists are going to get caught.

He ran on no NEW wars.

He violated his biggest campaign promise.

No one voted for war with Iran.

We voted for secure borders, low inflation, and tax cuts.

Correct

He also repeatedly said Iran old not get nukes

World politics is not black and white



We won't get dragged onto Middle East wars is pretty black and white. It's ok if that was it, as far as we will go. If it's regime change, it really blows up the narrative?

Trump tha PEACE MAKER
Like I said, it is and always has been regime change.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 8:43p, 6/22/25
The_barBEARian said:
boognish_bear said:


Yet the people on this board tell me I'm obsessed and crazy...

Oh you are but even a broken clock is right 2x a day
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In reply to nein51 • 8:45p, 6/22/25
nein51 said:
The_barBEARian said:
boognish_bear said:


Yet the people on this board tell me I'm obsessed and crazy...

Oh you are but even a broken clock is right 2x a day
You are giving that POS too much credit
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In reply to boognish_bear • 8:57p, 6/22/25
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I'm okay firing her.

I hope she take Omar's congressional seat
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 8:58p, 6/22/25
Doc Holliday said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
FLBear5630 said:
GrowlTowel said:
I am not sure what all the fuss was about. The whole thing from beginning to end was a mostly peaceful bombing run.


We will wait until tomorrow for them to tell us what to think. Whatever it is, it will be pro-Donald.

The propaganda and attacks against those that disagree with this Administration is unreal.

Massey is now out of MAGA.


Have you not followed politics very long?


Yeah, my comments are for the MAGA crowd. You know the ones doing the gymnastics to make this fit the Trump is different narrative. You know, no foreign wars, cut annual spending, lower deficit, etc...
Who on here fits that description?

I think Trump is going all in on representing boomercons. It's pissin me off.




lol at blaming boomers for everything. It's a silly schtick.

Here's a GenXer on board with bombing Iran's nuke facilities.
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