quash said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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If we started arresting every single person who sped on I-35, the jails would be overrun pretty quickly.

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Speeders very seldom murder cops. Kind of a big difference there ...

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Undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit a crime than citizens. If reducing cop murders is really your concern, then statistically speaking, you should concentrate citizens, first.

Also, it has literally never been safer to be a human being on earth in the history of the world.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/03/28/steven_pinker_now_is_a_great_time_to_be_alive.html

It's safer to be a cop as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/identities/2016/8/13/17938238/police-officer-on-duty-deaths-killings

And all of this is fantastic news. Don't let fear drive you to oppress.

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Wrong. Mixing illegals with legit immigrants does not suddenly make illegals 'good citizens'.

Stop hating cops, 'k?

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Um. What?

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Pretending police are safe allowing illegals in here is hating cops. Pretty basic, that.

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Lol... what? You been drinking?

Is ignoring empirical data because the people are brown racist?

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I pay attention to police funerals. I note who murdered them.

False-conclusion push polls and studies are no comfort to widows.

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riflebear said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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As opposed to using a created problem to fix one that mostly existed years ago?

Interesting take.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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If we started arresting every single person who sped on I-35, the jails would be overrun pretty quickly.

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Speeders very seldom murder cops. Kind of a big difference there ...

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Undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit a crime than citizens. If reducing cop murders is really your concern, then statistically speaking, you should concentrate citizens, first.

Also, it has literally never been safer to be a human being on earth in the history of the world.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/03/28/steven_pinker_now_is_a_great_time_to_be_alive.html

It's safer to be a cop as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/identities/2016/8/13/17938238/police-officer-on-duty-deaths-killings

And all of this is fantastic news. Don't let fear drive you to oppress.

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Wrong. Mixing illegals with legit immigrants does not suddenly make illegals 'good citizens'.

Stop hating cops, 'k?

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Um. What?

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Pretending police are safe allowing illegals in here is hating cops. Pretty basic, that.

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Lol... what? You been drinking?

Is ignoring empirical data because the people are brown racist?

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I pay attention to police funerals. I note who murdered them.

False-conclusion push polls and studies are no comfort to widows.

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Ah. The "fake news" argument. Gotcha.

It is amazing the lengths some will allow their tribalism to push them to avoid having to reconcile facts that contradict beliefs.

I have no doubt you pay attention to police funerals. I just wish you'd give non anecdotal information the same attention.

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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As opposed to using a created problem to fix one that mostly existed years ago?

Interesting take.

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What 'created' problem are you talking about? The same CRISIS at the border Obama Hillary & all the other Dems admitted there was a few years ago? That 'created' problem?

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Canada2017 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You *******s on here feel good about making my generation pay for 2000+ new illegal immigrants coming through this country every ****ing day?

**** you guys. I'm going to have to live through a major depression at some point in my life while y'all will be dead having never experienced the hardships I will absolutely go through.

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Um... guys. He's cursing.

Old bear and DC are going to be like, SO MAD, dude.

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chuckle

OK rep point coming your way for the humor..

But Doc is most likely correct. Only a fool would believe the United States could employ, educate and provide the social services required ......

for the 10's of millions of impoverished central and South Americans who would most certainly immigrate here if allowed to do so .

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With respect, the number coming has been dropping to the current point being the lowest in decades. We actually have a SHORTAGE of workers willing to do the jobs they do that fulfill REAL need for our economy.

This idea that "we can't handle them" is without basis in fact.

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From NYTimes

Border at 'Breaking Point' as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month


The number of migrant families crossing the southwest border has once again broken records, with unauthorized entries nearly doubling what they were a year ago, suggesting that the Trump administration's aggressive policies have not discouraged new migration to the United States.
More than 76,000 migrants crossed the border without authorization in February, an 11-year highand a strong sign that stepped-up prosecutions, new controls on asylum and harsher detention policies have not reversed what remains a powerful lure for thousands of families fleeing violence and poverty.
"The system is well beyond capacity, and remains at the breaking point," Kevin K. McAleenan, commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, told reporters in announcing the new data on Tuesday.
The nation's top border enforcement officer painted a picture of processing centers filled to capacity, border agents struggling to meet medical needs and thousands of exhausted members of migrant families crammed into a detention system that was not built to house them all while newcomers continue to arrive, sometimes by the busload, at the rate of 2,200 a day.

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That is largely a function of policy decisions. It is a crisis only because this administration decided to create one.You

Add more immigration judges. Move personnel from checkpoints well inside the birder. Revive the Bracero program.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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As opposed to using a created problem to fix one that mostly existed years ago?

Interesting take.

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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As opposed to using a created problem to fix one that mostly existed years ago?

Interesting take.

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What 'created' problem are you talking about? The same CRISIS at the border Obama Hillary & all the other Dems admitted there was a few years ago? That 'created' problem?

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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If we started arresting every single person who sped on I-35, the jails would be overrun pretty quickly.

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Speeders very seldom murder cops. Kind of a big difference there ...

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Undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit a crime than citizens. If reducing cop murders is really your concern, then statistically speaking, you should concentrate citizens, first.

Also, it has literally never been safer to be a human being on earth in the history of the world.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/03/28/steven_pinker_now_is_a_great_time_to_be_alive.html

It's safer to be a cop as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/identities/2016/8/13/17938238/police-officer-on-duty-deaths-killings

And all of this is fantastic news. Don't let fear drive you to oppress.

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Wrong. Mixing illegals with legit immigrants does not suddenly make illegals 'good citizens'.

Stop hating cops, 'k?

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Um. What?

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Pretending police are safe allowing illegals in here is hating cops. Pretty basic, that.

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Lol... what? You been drinking?

Is ignoring empirical data because the people are brown racist?

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I pay attention to police funerals. I note who murdered them.

False-conclusion push polls and studies are no comfort to widows.

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Ah. The "fake news" argument. Gotcha.

It is amazing the lengths some will allow their tribalism to push them to avoid having to reconcile facts that contradict beliefs.

I have no doubt you pay attention to police funerals. I just wish you'd give non anecdotal information the same attention.

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I noticed you ignored the widows, and instead defaulted to a cheap-shot dismissal of the problem.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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As opposed to using a created problem to fix one that mostly existed years ago?

Interesting take.

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What 'created' problem are you talking about? The same CRISIS at the border Obama Hillary & all the other Dems admitted there was a few years ago? That 'created' problem?

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You do realize that situations change, right?

Just checking. Because I am wondering if i should still be worried about the Prussians.

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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If we started arresting every single person who sped on I-35, the jails would be overrun pretty quickly.

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Speeders very seldom murder cops. Kind of a big difference there ...

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Undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit a crime than citizens. If reducing cop murders is really your concern, then statistically speaking, you should concentrate citizens, first.

Also, it has literally never been safer to be a human being on earth in the history of the world.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/03/28/steven_pinker_now_is_a_great_time_to_be_alive.html

It's safer to be a cop as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/identities/2016/8/13/17938238/police-officer-on-duty-deaths-killings

And all of this is fantastic news. Don't let fear drive you to oppress.

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Wrong. Mixing illegals with legit immigrants does not suddenly make illegals 'good citizens'.

Stop hating cops, 'k?

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Um. What?

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Pretending police are safe allowing illegals in here is hating cops. Pretty basic, that.

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Lol... what? You been drinking?

Is ignoring empirical data because the people are brown racist?

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I pay attention to police funerals. I note who murdered them.

False-conclusion push polls and studies are no comfort to widows.

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Ah. The "fake news" argument. Gotcha.

It is amazing the lengths some will allow their tribalism to push them to avoid having to reconcile facts that contradict beliefs.

I have no doubt you pay attention to police funerals. I just wish you'd give non anecdotal information the same attention.

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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quash said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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I, and the LP, have proposed solutions that will work.

And terminology matters: this is not a crisis of drugs, or crime, refugees. It is a policy cluster****. A wall or nothing approach misses the point.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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[in a singing voice] the drugs are coming through the portsssssss. A wall won't ****ing fix it. Dooo-dooo-doooooooo [/singing voice]

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quash said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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I, and the LP, have proposed solutions that will work.

And terminology matters: this is not a crisis of drugs, or crime, refugees. It is a policy cluster****. A wall or nothing approach misses the point.

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Canada2017 said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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[in a singing voice] the drugs are coming through the portsssssss. A wall won't ****ing fix it. Dooo-dooo-doooooooo [/singing voice]

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Why would you be against anything that would reduce the illicit importation of narcotics into the US ?

Narcotics that are killing thousands of our citizens every year.

If you wish to argue efficiency......fine .

But 6 billion is burned annually just for another nuclear aircraft carrier .

Build 6 less B-2 bombers or 10 less destroyers.....take the cash out of the military budget. But let's at least try to reduce the drug carnage raging throughout our country .

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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I, and the LP, have proposed solutions that will work.

And terminology matters: this is not a crisis of drugs, or crime, refugees. It is a policy cluster****. A wall or nothing approach misses the point.

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Did you just say this isn't a crime of drugs or crime or refugees? What is it a crisis of then? Do you even read the posts from boots on the ground and the amount of drugs being smuggled in that are detained (and those are just the ones they catch)

Why are liberals OK with drugs and crime coming into our country just to win votes? At what expense and how many crimes & deaths are you OK with building your voting block? That is flat out INSANE. and please give us your 'solutions'?

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quash said:

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As I said, it is a policy cluster****, not a crisis. And the wall makes it worse.

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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I, and the LP, have proposed solutions that will work.

And terminology matters: this is not a crisis of drugs, or crime, refugees. It is a policy cluster****. A wall or nothing approach misses the point.

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Did you just say this isn't a crime of drugs or crime or refugees? What is it a crisis of then?

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Sam Lowry said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Young Justin is gonna be sad!

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Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.

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And that's the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are trying to exploit this for future political gain instead of fixing the problem. I'm not saying you are wrong because we know that's exactly what the Dems will do but the title of this thread is hilarious. You are more worried about the 'talk' or terminology of this crisis instead of the actual crisis.

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I, and the LP, have proposed solutions that will work.

And terminology matters: this is not a crisis of drugs, or crime, refugees. It is a policy cluster****. A wall or nothing approach misses the point.

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Did you just say this isn't a crime of drugs or crime or refugees? What is it a crisis of then?

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Law enforcement. As in, Trump insists on actually doing it.

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Doc Holliday said:

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1,000,000 invaders in a single year, most of whom get to stay (catch-and-release), is more than the population of six states (Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, Wyoming).

How can anyone believe this isn't a HUGE problem?!

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