This "border crisis" talk is dangerous for our democracy

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In reply to PartyBear • 10:18a, 2/16/19
PartyBear said:
The wall was just voted on in 18. Polling data continues to back up that this wall issue is a loser and by large margin. So is the national emergency over an unpopular policy that Americans don't want to pay for.
By a president that most voters did not vote for. I realize he is the president and he did win the election. But he is going around other elected leaders to get his way despite what dems and a large portion of repubs think.

Trump cares about Trump.
I have found theres only two ways to go:
Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 10:52a, 2/16/19
Sam Lowry said:
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
quash said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.
Why isnt there more sad now when a republican actually doing it?
Because the Republican isn't a left wing lunatic and the wall is something no one really had a problem with until about ten minutes ago.
Ahem
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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In reply to drahthaar • 12:43p, 2/16/19
On this one yes.
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12:45p, 2/16/19
I have come to believe this whole "National Emergency " is political theater. Trump knew the courts would stop him. He had nothing to lose. He played his base. He looks "so strong" but it was a cowardly act.
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12:48p, 2/16/19
He doesn't look strong at all. In the words of Coulter he is an idiot. He looks like one as well.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 2:09p, 2/16/19
Sam Lowry said:
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
quash said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.
Why isnt there more sad now when a republican actually doing it?
Because the Republican isn't a left wing lunatic and the wall is something no one really had a problem with until about ten minutes ago.


Well, since illegal crossings have been dropping steadily, the need for the wall has dropped. It was always an extreme idea. But the problem was more pressing than it is now.

Be fair about that.
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In reply to quash • 3:03p, 2/16/19
quash said:
Sam Lowry said:
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
quash said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.
Why isnt there more sad now when a republican actually doing it?
Because the Republican isn't a left wing lunatic and the wall is something no one really had a problem with until about ten minutes ago.
Ahem
Except libertarians...sorry.
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In reply to quash • 3:08p, 2/16/19
quash said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.


I think obama saw 13 of em in 8 years. How many more do you think a Democrat can see?
FKA tri it
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In reply to Iron Claw • 3:24p, 2/16/19
Iron Claw said:
quash said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.


I think obama saw 13 of em in 8 years. How many more do you think a Democrat can see?


Wow. How many of those were responses to projects that congress wouldn't fund?

This is like excusing a mechanic for beating his wife with a wrench because other plumbers use wrenches to tighten bolts.
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8:55p, 2/16/19
White people bad. Brown people good.

Taxes good. Dependency good.

Spending good. Saving bad.

Abortion good. Life bad.

Success penalized. Failure rewarded.

In my 29 years of life this is what I've been told every day.
There's nothing I can do to fight against it. I'm starting to give up and really not caring anymore.
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 9:00p, 2/16/19
Doc Holliday said:
White people bad. Brown people good.

Taxes good. Dependency good.

Spending good. Saving bad.

Abortion good. Life bad.

Success penalized. Failure rewarded.

In my 29 years of life this is what I've been told every day.
There's nothing I can do to fight against it. I'm starting to give up and really not caring anymore.


Not me until that ****stick obama came on scene

He's introduced our country to devisive hatred of all shorts as you mention

It must be stopped by good attorneys charging leftists with libel as we're starting to see, finally
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In reply to Florda_mike • 10:41p, 2/16/19
Obama revealed your racism FM.
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12:53a, 2/17/19
It's amazing how many more people seem upset that Trump is using an executive power to protect US citizens and US sovereign borders than we're upset when Obama admitted 22 times he couldn't legally hand out amnesty and then went ahead and did what he EXPLICITLY stated he had no power to do.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/11/19/jon-karl-does-obama-think-hes-emperor-of-the-united-states-n1920606

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In reply to Waco1947 • 1:40a, 2/17/19
Waco1947 said:
Obama revealed your racism FM.


I'll get my attorney to charge you with libel now
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In reply to Golem • 8:47a, 2/17/19
GolemIII said:
It's amazing how many more people seem upset that Trump is using an executive power to protect US citizens and US sovereign borders than we're upset when Obama admitted 22 times he couldn't legally hand out amnesty and then went ahead and did what he EXPLICITLY stated he had no power to do.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/11/19/jon-karl-does-obama-think-hes-emperor-of-the-united-states-n1920606


There is no border crisis. Trump is golfing today, after a hard night watching SNL and threatening the press again.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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8:50a, 2/17/19
Stop using precedent and acting like this is the first time.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-national-emergencies-have-been-called-by-presidents/

Democrats just making a big deal about this one.

For the record, I don't agree that this is the way to go about getting the wall, but it is very needed. Even Beto agrees...
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In reply to quash • 8:53a, 2/17/19
quash said:
GolemIII said:
It's amazing how many more people seem upset that Trump is using an executive power to protect US citizens and US sovereign borders than we're upset when Obama admitted 22 times he couldn't legally hand out amnesty and then went ahead and did what he EXPLICITLY stated he had no power to do.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/11/19/jon-karl-does-obama-think-hes-emperor-of-the-united-states-n1920606


There is no border crisis. Trump is golfing today, after a hard night watching SNL and threatening the press again.
Let the lawsuit play out
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9:06a, 2/17/19
Let's see...Smollett, Covington kids, Kavanaugh, the press derserves to be threatened. Face it, the press investigates no more.
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In reply to fadskier • 9:22a, 2/17/19
fadskier said:
Let's see...Smollett, Covington kids, Kavanaugh, the press derserves to be threatened. Face it, the press investigates no more.

The weekend anchor for Fox Chicago is investigating Smollett. There is plenty of good investigative journalism out there.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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In reply to quash • 10:00a, 2/17/19
quash said:
GolemIII said:
It's amazing how many more people seem upset that Trump is using an executive power to protect US citizens and US sovereign borders than we're upset when Obama admitted 22 times he couldn't legally hand out amnesty and then went ahead and did what he EXPLICITLY stated he had no power to do.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/11/19/jon-karl-does-obama-think-hes-emperor-of-the-united-states-n1920606


There is no border crisis. Trump is golfing today, after a hard night watching SNL and threatening the press again.


Look mom! There's one of the useless hypocrites right there!!!
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10:30a, 2/17/19
Trump is the best thing that ever happened to the Democrats.

He just jerked off the country for 54 miles of border wall that wasn't needed in the feasibility studies.

Now, here comes the courts to strike down his "emergency."

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In reply to xiledinok • 10:47a, 2/17/19
xiledinok said:
Trump is the best thing that ever happened to the Democrats.

He just jerked off the country for 54 miles of border wall that wasn't needed in the feasibility studies.

Now, here comes the courts to strike down his "emergency."



They're gonna love his SCOTUS pick to replace the corpse. Best thing ever.
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In reply to Golem • 10:57a, 2/17/19
GolemIII said:
xiledinok said:
Trump is the best thing that ever happened to the Democrats.

He just jerked off the country for 54 miles of border wall that wasn't needed in the feasibility studies.

Now, here comes the courts to strike down his "emergency."



They're gonna love his SCOTUS pick to replace the corpse. Best thing ever.


Is that all you can hope?

The border wall is a joke on our wallets.

What's next? Another trillion dollar infrastructure bill to fix the non GDP producing red states' broken run down blight?
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In reply to quash • 10:58a, 2/17/19
quash said:
fadskier said:
Let's see...Smollett, Covington kids, Kavanaugh, the press derserves to be threatened. Face it, the press investigates no more.

The weekend anchor for Fox Chicago is investigating Smollett. There is plenty of good investigative journalism out there.
change "plenty" to "still some" and I think it's a more accurate statement, at least in my view.
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In reply to xiledinok • 11:15a, 2/17/19
xiledinok said:
GolemIII said:
xiledinok said:
Trump is the best thing that ever happened to the Democrats.

He just jerked off the country for 54 miles of border wall that wasn't needed in the feasibility studies.

Now, here comes the courts to strike down his "emergency."



They're gonna love his SCOTUS pick to replace the corpse. Best thing ever.


Is that all you can hope?

The border wall is a joke on our wallets.

What's next? Another trillion dollar infrastructure bill to fix the non GDP producing red states' broken run down blight?


All? That's the only reason I've ever supported him. It effectively $#|ts on the democrats' aims to turn us into a socialist country for at least 20 years. Maybe more depending on how many he appoints. Congress is fit 2 years. Senate is for 6. SCOTUS is for 40.
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In reply to Golem • 11:56a, 2/17/19
GolemIII said:
xiledinok said:
GolemIII said:
xiledinok said:
Trump is the best thing that ever happened to the Democrats.

He just jerked off the country for 54 miles of border wall that wasn't needed in the feasibility studies.

Now, here comes the courts to strike down his "emergency."



They're gonna love his SCOTUS pick to replace the corpse. Best thing ever.


Is that all you can hope?

The border wall is a joke on our wallets.

What's next? Another trillion dollar infrastructure bill to fix the non GDP producing red states' broken run down blight?


All? That's the only reason I've ever supported him. It effectively $#|ts on the democrats' aims to turn us into a socialist country for at least 20 years. Maybe more depending on how many he appoints. Congress is fit 2 years. Senate is for 6. SCOTUS is for 40.


Golem II, I believe your viewpoints reside in more Americans than you think. Who do you support these days?
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In reply to xiledinok • 1:26p, 2/17/19
xiledinok said:
GolemIII said:
xiledinok said:
GolemIII said:
xiledinok said:
Trump is the best thing that ever happened to the Democrats.

He just jerked off the country for 54 miles of border wall that wasn't needed in the feasibility studies.

Now, here comes the courts to strike down his "emergency."



They're gonna love his SCOTUS pick to replace the corpse. Best thing ever.


Is that all you can hope?

The border wall is a joke on our wallets.

What's next? Another trillion dollar infrastructure bill to fix the non GDP producing red states' broken run down blight?


All? That's the only reason I've ever supported him. It effectively $#|ts on the democrats' aims to turn us into a socialist country for at least 20 years. Maybe more depending on how many he appoints. Congress is fit 2 years. Senate is for 6. SCOTUS is for 40.


Golem II, I believe your viewpoints reside in more Americans than you think. Who do you support these days?


Anyone who will appoint originalist justices. Anyone. For now, that's Trump.
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In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 1:50p, 2/17/19
I wouldn't count on that. Trump
Is doing everything he can to limit himself to one term.
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In reply to TexasScientist • 3:18p, 2/17/19
TexasScientist said:
I wouldn't count on that. Trump
Is doing everything he can to limit himself to one term.

While AOC along with Nancy, Chuck, Schiff, Omar, and Tlaib are guaranteeing him a second term.
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In reply to xiledinok • 3:24p, 2/17/19
xiledinok said:
GolemIII said:
xiledinok said:
Trump is the best thing that ever happened to the Democrats.

He just jerked off the country for 54 miles of border wall that wasn't needed in the feasibility studies.

Now, here comes the courts to strike down his "emergency."



They're gonna love his SCOTUS pick to replace the corpse. Best thing ever.


Is that all you can hope?

The border wall is a joke on our wallets.

What's next? Another trillion dollar infrastructure bill to fix the non GDP producing red states' broken run down blight?
Where is your evidence that the wall is a joke? Even Beto knows it works In El Paso. He said so himself!
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In reply to fadskier • 3:51p, 2/17/19
fadskier said:
xiledinok said:
GolemIII said:
xiledinok said:
Trump is the best thing that ever happened to the Democrats.

He just jerked off the country for 54 miles of border wall that wasn't needed in the feasibility studies.

Now, here comes the courts to strike down his "emergency."



They're gonna love his SCOTUS pick to replace the corpse. Best thing ever.


Is that all you can hope?

The border wall is a joke on our wallets.

What's next? Another trillion dollar infrastructure bill to fix the non GDP producing red states' broken run down blight?
Where is your evidence that the wall is a joke? Even Beto knows it works In El Paso. He said so himself!

NY Post, Feb 15th:

Former Congressman and possible 2020 presidential contender Beto O'Rourke said in an interview Thursday that he would tear down an existing border barrier in El Paso, Texas, if given the chance.

"Absolutely, I'd take the wall down," O'Rourke, who represented the area as a congressman, said on MSNBC.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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In reply to fadskier • 4:44p, 2/17/19
fadskier said:
Let's see...Smollett, Covington kids, Kavanaugh, the press derserves to be threatened. Face it, the press investigates no more.


You just throwing **** at a wall? These are all separate issues.
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In reply to BrooksBearLives • 5:45p, 2/17/19
BrooksBearLives said:
fadskier said:
Let's see...Smollett, Covington kids, Kavanaugh, the press derserves to be threatened. Face it, the press investigates no more.


You just throwing **** at a wall? These are all separate issues.


^^^ Kinda makes it hard to argue with that line of thought

Eeekkk
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In reply to PartyBear • 7:33p, 2/17/19
Wrong
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7:37p, 2/17/19
Beto is not going to win ****. Let him come down to South Texas. He has no idea what he is saying. Come and take it!!! Beto
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