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Hate the sin
Love the sinner

Go and sin no more. This could be said to the drunks, the liars, the cheats, the proud, the greedy, the selfish and yes, even the gays.

Society has accepted many sinful things. That doesn't make them less sinful

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Hate the sin, love the sinner should never be said to any gay person. I think the church has screwed up their messaging and actions to gay individuals (distinguishing between gay individuals and LGBTQ organizations) so bad over the decades that we are reaping what we sowed.

When you say hate the sin, love the sinner - a gay person hears hate the sin, love the sinner, hate the sinner. Gays are so tied up in their gay identity that they cannot separate their homosexuality from who they are as a person. They just hear hate the sinner. That's why Christians are getting into the cross hairs as a hate group.

We are also terrible at making homosexuals feel unwelcome in the church. If there was a place that you would want homosexual individuals, it is in the church around people who (ideally) love as Jesus modeled it. And for the baptists, it is possible to distinguish between an attender and a member. Surely, you've heard the term that a church is a hospital for sick people. Homosexuals should be in your church.

We don't seem to have the same problem with divorced people who divorced for reasons other than spousal infidelity. We don't seem to have as much of a problem with single millenials having sex outside of marriage.

Why did we pick out homosexuals as such a different class?

Jesus touched the woman at the well. He showed her love before he told her to go and sin no more. He earned her trust first. He claimed the moral authority with his actions of love and healing. But what to Christians do? We go straight to go and sin no more while skipping over the love and healing.


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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Edmond Bear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Hate the sin
Love the sinner

Go and sin no more. This could be said to the drunks, the liars, the cheats, the proud, the greedy, the selfish and yes, even the gays.

Society has accepted many sinful things. That doesn't make them less sinful

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Hate the sin, love the sinner should never be said to any gay person. I think the church has screwed up their messaging and actions to gay individuals (distinguishing between gay individuals and LGBTQ organizations) so bad over the decades that we are reaping what we sowed.

When you say hate the sin, love the sinner - a gay person hears hate the sin, love the sinner, hate the sinner. Gays are so tied up in their gay identity that they cannot separate their homosexuality from who they are as a person. They just hear hate the sinner. That's why Christians are getting into the cross hairs as a hate group.

We are also terrible at making homosexuals feel unwelcome in the church. If there was a place that you would want homosexual individuals, it is in the church around people who (ideally) love as Jesus modeled it. And for the baptists, it is possible to distinguish between an attender and a member. Surely, you've heard the term that a church is a hospital for sick people. Homosexuals should be in your church.

We don't seem to have the same problem with divorced people who divorced for reasons other than spousal infidelity. We don't seem to have as much of a problem with single millenials having sex outside of marriage.

Why did we pick out homosexuals as such a different class?

Jesus touched the woman at the well. He showed her love before he told her to go and sin no more. He earned her trust first. He claimed the moral authority with his actions of love and healing. But what to Christians do? We go straight to go and sin no more while skipping over the love and healing.


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Im assuming there is a conversation and hopefully a friendship rather than just a statement.

I wouldn't run up to someone and yell "repent you drunkard!" There are ways to deliver hard but helpful messages with love and concern.

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Edmond Bear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Hate the sin
Love the sinner

Go and sin no more. This could be said to the drunks, the liars, the cheats, the proud, the greedy, the selfish and yes, even the gays.

Society has accepted many sinful things. That doesn't make them less sinful

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Hate the sin, love the sinner should never be said to any gay person. I think the church has screwed up their messaging and actions to gay individuals (distinguishing between gay individuals and LGBTQ organizations) so bad over the decades that we are reaping what we sowed.

When you say hate the sin, love the sinner - a gay person hears hate the sin, love the sinner, hate the sinner. Gays are so tied up in their gay identity that they cannot separate their homosexuality from who they are as a person. They just hear hate the sinner. That's why Christians are getting into the cross hairs as a hate group.

We are also terrible at making homosexuals feel unwelcome in the church. If there was a place that you would want homosexual individuals, it is in the church around people who (ideally) love as Jesus modeled it. And for the baptists, it is possible to distinguish between an attender and a member. Surely, you've heard the term that a church is a hospital for sick people. Homosexuals should be in your church.

We don't seem to have the same problem with divorced people who divorced for reasons other than spousal infidelity. We don't seem to have as much of a problem with single millenials having sex outside of marriage.

Why did we pick out homosexuals as such a different class?

Jesus touched the woman at the well. He showed her love before he told her to go and sin no more. He earned her trust first. He claimed the moral authority with his actions of love and healing. But what to Christians do? We go straight to go and sin no more while skipping over the love and healing.


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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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So why does your God put such an extra burden on some people, to give them a desire and then tell them never to seek intimacy in fulfillment of their innate desire?

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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So why does your God put such an extra burden on some people, to give them a desire and then tell them never to seek intimacy in fulfillment of their innate desire?

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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So why does your God put such an extra burden on some people, to give them a desire and then tell them never to seek intimacy in fulfillment of their innate desire?

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you mean porn?

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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So why does your God put such an extra burden on some people, to give them a desire and then tell them never to seek intimacy in fulfillment of their innate desire?

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God does not give impure desires.

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

---

Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

---

with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

---

I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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So why does your God put such an extra burden on some people, to give them a desire and then tell them never to seek intimacy in fulfillment of their innate desire?

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God does not give impure desires.

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When did you decide you had been created straight?

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

---

I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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So why does your God put such an extra burden on some people, to give them a desire and then tell them never to seek intimacy in fulfillment of their innate desire?

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God does not give impure desires.

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When did you decide you had been created straight?

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There's no need to decide anything because God doesn't make mistakes.

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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So why does your God put such an extra burden on some people, to give them a desire and then tell them never to seek intimacy in fulfillment of their innate desire?

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God does not give impure desires.

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When did you decide you had been created straight?

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There's no need to decide anything because God doesn't make mistakes.

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So what is his purpose in creating homosexuals?

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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So why does your God put such an extra burden on some people, to give them a desire and then tell them never to seek intimacy in fulfillment of their innate desire?

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God does not give impure desires.

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When did you decide you had been created straight?

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There's no need to decide anything because God doesn't make mistakes.

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So what is his purpose in creating homosexuals?

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God didn't create homos. That's man's sinful behavior as noted in Romans 1:24-32. It's just as sinful as those drawn to lying, stealing, murdering, etc.

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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So why does your God put such an extra burden on some people, to give them a desire and then tell them never to seek intimacy in fulfillment of their innate desire?

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God does not give impure desires.

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When did you decide you had been created straight?

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There's no need to decide anything because God doesn't make mistakes.

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So what is his purpose in creating homosexuals?

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God didn't create homos. That's man's sinful behavior as noted in Romans 1:24-32. It's just as sinful as those drawn to lying, stealing, murdering, etc.

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He said lovingly...

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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So why does your God put such an extra burden on some people, to give them a desire and then tell them never to seek intimacy in fulfillment of their innate desire?

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God does not give impure desires.

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When did you decide you had been created straight?

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There's no need to decide anything because God doesn't make mistakes.

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So what is his purpose in creating homosexuals?

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God didn't create homos. That's man's sinful behavior as noted in Romans 1:24-32. It's just as sinful as those drawn to lying, stealing, murdering, etc.

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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See that's the problem. I'm as versed on Scripture as you are and I know that none of the relevant pericopae touching the subject of homosexuality address the issue of love, mutuality and consent. Since that it true, I find it prudent to trust the God of the Bible on issues such as this one.

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YoakDaddy said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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See that's the problem. I'm as versed on Scripture as you are and I know that none of the relevant pericopae touching the subject of homosexuality address the issue of love, mutuality and consent. Since that it true, I find it prudent to trust the God of the Bible on issues such as this one.

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It doesn't address homosexuality related to love, mutuality, and consent because it's a sinful behavior. If you prudently trust in the God of the Bible, you'd know that.

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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See that's the problem. I'm as versed on Scripture as you are and I know that none of the relevant pericopae touching the subject of homosexuality address the issue of love, mutuality and consent. Since that it true, I find it prudent to trust the God of the Bible on issues such as this one.

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It doesn't address homosexuality related to love, mutuality, and consent because it's a sinful behavior. If you prudently trust in the God of the Bible, you'd know that.

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Since the Bible is silent on these as it relates to homosexuality, How did you determine that love consent and mutuality are sinful?

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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You Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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See that's the problem. I'm as versed on Scripture as you are and I know that none of the relevant pericopae touching the subject of homosexuality address the issue of love, mutuality and consent. Since that it true, I find it prudent to trust the God of the Bible on issues such as this one.

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It doesn't address homosexuality related to love, mutuality, and consent because it's a sinful behavior. If you prudently trust in the God of the Bible, you'd know that.

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Since the Bible is silent on these as it relates to homosexuality, How did you determine that love consent and mutuality are sinful?

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Not even close. Take your Mulligan

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bearassnekkid said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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quash said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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IYou Only a matter of time....look at our university leadership....they'll cave to secular society. When it does happen, adios. Except for the diploma on my office wall, my family is done with Baylor because recognizing this group is anathema to our Christian Mission.

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You had gay classmates at Baylor.

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I know, but they didn't organize into a victim group that claims their deviant behavior is normal.

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Is simply being gay a behavior or within your limited understanding do you believe it to be an immutable characteristic?

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with regard to your "immutable characteristic "; I know three people who were married to members of the opposite sex. Two of them became grandparents and then, later in life came out as homosexual. I'm sure for each of them, they struggled with temptation for years before yielding to it.

Is it ever okay to yield to the temptation of sin?

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I would compare your acquaintances to somebody who is naturally left handed (by orientation) but writes with the right hand because social custom requires it. And while the Church would never admit it, there are many within it who see sexuality on a continuum. There are exclusively straight and gay people on either end of the continuum and there are those who fall at different places along the continuum. I don't think it's as simple as we've been made to believe.

With regard to yielding to sin; if being black was a sin, try as I might, I would encounter difficulty not being the black person God made me to be. And so it is with other immutable human traits.

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Very eloquent, cinque. And, while all of that sounds great, it is not scriptural. If my choices for my eternal soul are to trust cinque or a cinque-like church versus trusting what scripture says, I will choose scripture.

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See that's the problem. I'm as versed on Scripture as you are and I know that none of the relevant pericopae touching the subject of homosexuality address the issue of love, mutuality and consent. Since that it true, I find it prudent to trust the God of the Bible on issues such as this one.

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It doesn't address homosexuality related to love, mutuality, and consent because it's a sinful behavior. If you prudently trust in the God of the Bible, you'd know that.

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Since the Bible is silent on these as it relates to homosexuality, How did you determine that love consent and mutuality are sinful?

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Not even close. Take your Mulligan

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Really? That's your answer?

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Consensually and mutually giving in to lust is sinful, for example, so I'm not sure what your point about the Bible's "silence" as to those qualifiers has to do with the price of tea in China. They are your qualifiers, not the Bible's. It needn't speak to them because it offers no such qualifier or justification.

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