57Bear said:Have you seen "those evil text messages" or have you seen the sniplets that the boi published?xiledinok said:Those evil text messages. What a better way to find out information than to look on company phones!Doc Holliday said:Got any proof of that?Quote:
Art did report it to Ian and they both were trying to keep things away from judicial affairs
Stupid damn kids! Thank God back in the early eighties there were no cell phones and nobody knew what this internet thing was.PartyBear said:
Showing homemade porn to others is still a crime if not all the participants consented to it's being shown to others. If someone starred in a sex tape unbeknownst to them, that is even more more serious. Either way this is something that has to be dealt with and the crime of sexual assault is not the only thing that gives rise to Title IX issues.
But you missed his main error. He said "tangently" when what he obviously meant, anyone with a BU education would know, the word is "tangentially". Let's get back to the essentials here.Forest Bueller said:"In particular, at this time we are unaware of any situation where you personally had contact with anyone who directly reported to you being the victim of sexual assault or that you directly discouraged the victim of an alleged sexual assault from reporting to law enforcement or University officials. Nor are we aware of any situation where you played a student athlete who had been found responsible for sexual assault.Bona Fide Bear said:
It's amazing how many of you are missing the point. These kinds of things are going to happen at every school. But what Briles did wrong is he let sexual assault allegations that he was made aware of never leave his office (or people within his staff). And tangently, Briles May have taken higher risk chances on guys. So unless Rhule tried to hide these allegations and unless Rhule brought in guys with questionable character, the situations aren't the same. Plain and simple.
Not sure this is totally correct. Or maybe be BU is just trying to have it both ways here.
Have you seen "those evil text messages" or have you seen the sniplets that the boi published?Keyser Soze said:57Bear said:Have you seen "those evil text messages" or have you seen the sniplets that the boi published?xiledinok said:Those evil text messages. What a better way to find out information than to look on company phones!Doc Holliday said:Got any proof of that?Quote:
Art did report it to Ian and they both were trying to keep things away from judicial affairs
Keyser Soze said:
I bet you killed it at "I'm rubber you're glue" as a kid
We all know the answer. The question itself is just doubling down on conspiracy.Yogi said:Keyser Soze said:
I bet you killed it at "I'm rubber you're glue" as a kid
Bawahahaha! You spend a year and a half typing 0/0/0 and lying *****s. Now you have no comment?Robemcdo said:xiledinok said:Are these new women lying *****s like last time or was that a line to protect Ian and the former disgraced regime?Robemcdo said:
A lawyer in a civil suit said so therefore it's true
Robe, Rusty blew up your boys with a couple of cards. What if he's waiting to dump more to protect his clients?
It was a reply to the post above mine
That's how message boards work
Old news and their is no cover up. There is your rating sweeps story to make it breaking news on KWTX.boognish_bear said:
From my quick scouring of Twitter this has actually gotten a lot less media attention then I would've predicted so far
xiledinok said:Old news and their is no cover up. There is your rating sweeps story to make it breaking news on KWTX.boognish_bear said:
From my quick scouring of Twitter this has actually gotten a lot less media attention then I would've predicted so far
Sicem free board thread..boognish_bear said:xiledinok said:Old news and their is no cover up. There is your rating sweeps story to make it breaking news on KWTX.boognish_bear said:
From my quick scouring of Twitter this has actually gotten a lot less media attention then I would've predicted so far
I have seen a few ppl saying this is old news....was there a news story in Nov about 2 BU fball players being accused of SA? I have never heard a peep about this
Yogi said:1. There certainly are questions as to how Briles handled complaints from accusers who chose to report the alleged crime to the football coach rather than to the university, the university police department, local PD, a doctor, a SANE nurse, etc.Bona Fide Bear said:
It's amazing how many of you are missing the point. These kinds of things are going to happen at every school. But what Briles did wrong is he let sexual assault allegations that he was made aware of never leave his office (or people within his staff). And tangently, Briles May have taken higher risk chances on guys. So unless Rhule tried to hide these allegations and unless Rhule brought in guys with questionable character, the situations aren't the same. Plain and simple.
2. I don't know how things are now at Baylor, but when I was at Baylor, the head football coach was not held responsible for the actions of students who were not on the football team. At Baylor, most of the accused WERE NOT football players. So, the issue wasn't really how Briles handled alleged sexual assault cases as it was how Baylor University handled Title IX cases and then responded to media sensationalism.
3. Art Briles targeted the same recruits as every other football coach. Heck, by 2016, he didn't require bad players on the football team. He was getting almost all of the recruits he was targeting in the first place. And, how do you know who the bad apples are? A criminal record? Remember that juvenile records are sealed. Briles never recruited a recruit with an adult record in his 8 years at Baylor. Are you implying that the head football coach has a duty to interview a potential recruit's family, friends, teachers and other witnesses in determining what kind of kid he is? Does Baylor University? Or is an allegation that Briles went after "bad dudes" really a racist dog whistle for going after minority recruits from poorer neighborhoods?
Let's be brutally honest, here, Art Briles was going after the same athletes as Gary Patterson, Mack Brown, Mike Leach, etc.
NoBSU said:Sicem free board thread..boognish_bear said:xiledinok said:Old news and their is no cover up. There is your rating sweeps story to make it breaking news on KWTX.boognish_bear said:
From my quick scouring of Twitter this has actually gotten a lot less media attention then I would've predicted so far
I have seen a few ppl saying this is old news....was there a news story in Nov about 2 BU fball players being accused of SA? I have never heard a peep about this
I just figured that after all the "it's on us" training that these students have been through (and athletes even more so), that if there was an assault, it wouldn't have taken 2 days to report it. And since it is on video, it wouldn't take 3 months to decide responsibility.NoBSU said:Even that is rumor until there are charges. So, I guess we wait.Malbec said:It appears that these girls aren't accusing anyone of assault. It was being turned into actresses to which they object.xiledinok said:Are these new women lying *****s like last time or was that a line to protect Ian and the former disgraced regime?Robemcdo said:
A lawyer in a civil suit said so therefore it's true
Robe, Rusty blew up your boys with a couple of cards. What if he's waiting to dump more to protect his clients?
I don't get the video desire. I get that it is easy to do. Is it to brag/share or to have your own special porn? I show you what I did and you show me what you did and I probably never will?
I don't think we are talking about a hidden camera here, but I could be wrong.PartyBear said:
Showing homemade porn to others is still a crime if not all the participants consented to it's being shown to others. If someone starred in a sex tape unbeknownst to them, that is even more more serious. Either way this is something that has to be dealt with and the crime of sexual assault is not the only thing that gives rise to Title IX issues.
By saying "None of those other guys were recruiting Cordell Dorsey at the end", are you inferring that Briles was but that Cordell chose ACU over Baylor?bear2be2 said:
Let's be brutally honest, here, Art Briles was going after the same athletes as Gary Patterson, Mack Brown, Mike Leach, etc.
None of those other guys were recruiting Cordell Dorsey at the end. I know that for a fact.
What size ***** hat did you earn again?Gust Avrakotos said:
Thee, I'm expecting your leadership here to make this happen.
I follow BU recruiting but have never until this moment heard of Cordell Dorsey. Please expand.bear2be2 said:Yogi said:1. There certainly are questions as to how Briles handled complaints from accusers who chose to report the alleged crime to the football coach rather than to the university, the university police department, local PD, a doctor, a SANE nurse, etc.Bona Fide Bear said:
It's amazing how many of you are missing the point. These kinds of things are going to happen at every school. But what Briles did wrong is he let sexual assault allegations that he was made aware of never leave his office (or people within his staff). And tangently, Briles May have taken higher risk chances on guys. So unless Rhule tried to hide these allegations and unless Rhule brought in guys with questionable character, the situations aren't the same. Plain and simple.
2. I don't know how things are now at Baylor, but when I was at Baylor, the head football coach was not held responsible for the actions of students who were not on the football team. At Baylor, most of the accused WERE NOT football players. So, the issue wasn't really how Briles handled alleged sexual assault cases as it was how Baylor University handled Title IX cases and then responded to media sensationalism.
3. Art Briles targeted the same recruits as every other football coach. Heck, by 2016, he didn't require bad players on the football team. He was getting almost all of the recruits he was targeting in the first place. And, how do you know who the bad apples are? A criminal record? Remember that juvenile records are sealed. Briles never recruited a recruit with an adult record in his 8 years at Baylor. Are you implying that the head football coach has a duty to interview a potential recruit's family, friends, teachers and other witnesses in determining what kind of kid he is? Does Baylor University? Or is an allegation that Briles went after "bad dudes" really a racist dog whistle for going after minority recruits from poorer neighborhoods?
Let's be brutally honest, here, Art Briles was going after the same athletes as Gary Patterson, Mack Brown, Mike Leach, etc.
None of those other guys were recruiting Cordell Dorsey at the end. I know that for a fact.
80sBEAR said:Stupid damn kids! Thank God back in the early eighties there were no cell phones and nobody knew what this internet thing was.PartyBear said:
Showing homemade porn to others is still a crime if not all the participants consented to it's being shown to others. If someone starred in a sex tape unbeknownst to them, that is even more more serious. Either way this is something that has to be dealt with and the crime of sexual assault is not the only thing that gives rise to Title IX issues.
To send a dick pic, you had to take a polaroid and send it in a letter with a stamp! I long for simpler days!!!
You know I love you, but to post a D!ck pic, all you had to was to stick your Johnson in a donut, take a polaroid, then then place the picture at the bottom of the carton before dropping it off at Memorial.
Geesh, that has been going on long before I ever stepped foot on campus.
Thread by one of the usual suspects trying to hurt Rhule. A couple of attempts on the free board were deleted. I think it was discussed on the premium board free what I read from premium posters.boognish_bear said:NoBSU said:Sicem free board thread..boognish_bear said:xiledinok said:Old news and their is no cover up. There is your rating sweeps story to make it breaking news on KWTX.boognish_bear said:
From my quick scouring of Twitter this has actually gotten a lot less media attention then I would've predicted so far
I have seen a few ppl saying this is old news....was there a news story in Nov about 2 BU fball players being accused of SA? I have never heard a peep about this
Was it a thread dedicated to the story Or did it come up inside a thread about something else? I don't remember ever seeing it
bearlyafarmer said:I follow BU recruiting but have never until this moment heard of Cordell Dorsey. Please expand.bear2be2 said:Yogi said:1. There certainly are questions as to how Briles handled complaints from accusers who chose to report the alleged crime to the football coach rather than to the university, the university police department, local PD, a doctor, a SANE nurse, etc.Bona Fide Bear said:
It's amazing how many of you are missing the point. These kinds of things are going to happen at every school. But what Briles did wrong is he let sexual assault allegations that he was made aware of never leave his office (or people within his staff). And tangently, Briles May have taken higher risk chances on guys. So unless Rhule tried to hide these allegations and unless Rhule brought in guys with questionable character, the situations aren't the same. Plain and simple.
2. I don't know how things are now at Baylor, but when I was at Baylor, the head football coach was not held responsible for the actions of students who were not on the football team. At Baylor, most of the accused WERE NOT football players. So, the issue wasn't really how Briles handled alleged sexual assault cases as it was how Baylor University handled Title IX cases and then responded to media sensationalism.
3. Art Briles targeted the same recruits as every other football coach. Heck, by 2016, he didn't require bad players on the football team. He was getting almost all of the recruits he was targeting in the first place. And, how do you know who the bad apples are? A criminal record? Remember that juvenile records are sealed. Briles never recruited a recruit with an adult record in his 8 years at Baylor. Are you implying that the head football coach has a duty to interview a potential recruit's family, friends, teachers and other witnesses in determining what kind of kid he is? Does Baylor University? Or is an allegation that Briles went after "bad dudes" really a racist dog whistle for going after minority recruits from poorer neighborhoods?
Let's be brutally honest, here, Art Briles was going after the same athletes as Gary Patterson, Mack Brown, Mike Leach, etc.
None of those other guys were recruiting Cordell Dorsey at the end. I know that for a fact.
Here's the deal: I am trying to be entertained by this pissing match.Keyser Soze said:We all know the answer. The question itself is just doubling down on conspiracy.Yogi said:Keyser Soze said:
I bet you killed it at "I'm rubber you're glue" as a kid
It is the moving target that is the butt hurt conspiracy theorist.
We demand to know - they are told (FofF)
We demand details - they are given details (WSJ)
We demand more details - they are given more details (Shillinglaw)
Now it's we demand you prove those details are real. It will never stop, it will only move.
Unless there is a massive JFK like information dump in the future we are never going to see all the original docs. So it comes down to can the regents back up what they released. Cannon, Briles, Shillinglaw, and even BLR all behave as if the information they provided can. And the guys in the black T-shirts can stomp their feet as say can not.
kinda rubber / glue like
Appreciated. Thanks.YoakDaddy said:bearlyafarmer said:I follow BU recruiting but have never until this moment heard of Cordell Dorsey. Please expand.bear2be2 said:Yogi said:1. There certainly are questions as to how Briles handled complaints from accusers who chose to report the alleged crime to the football coach rather than to the university, the university police department, local PD, a doctor, a SANE nurse, etc.Bona Fide Bear said:
It's amazing how many of you are missing the point. These kinds of things are going to happen at every school. But what Briles did wrong is he let sexual assault allegations that he was made aware of never leave his office (or people within his staff). And tangently, Briles May have taken higher risk chances on guys. So unless Rhule tried to hide these allegations and unless Rhule brought in guys with questionable character, the situations aren't the same. Plain and simple.
2. I don't know how things are now at Baylor, but when I was at Baylor, the head football coach was not held responsible for the actions of students who were not on the football team. At Baylor, most of the accused WERE NOT football players. So, the issue wasn't really how Briles handled alleged sexual assault cases as it was how Baylor University handled Title IX cases and then responded to media sensationalism.
3. Art Briles targeted the same recruits as every other football coach. Heck, by 2016, he didn't require bad players on the football team. He was getting almost all of the recruits he was targeting in the first place. And, how do you know who the bad apples are? A criminal record? Remember that juvenile records are sealed. Briles never recruited a recruit with an adult record in his 8 years at Baylor. Are you implying that the head football coach has a duty to interview a potential recruit's family, friends, teachers and other witnesses in determining what kind of kid he is? Does Baylor University? Or is an allegation that Briles went after "bad dudes" really a racist dog whistle for going after minority recruits from poorer neighborhoods?
Let's be brutally honest, here, Art Briles was going after the same athletes as Gary Patterson, Mack Brown, Mike Leach, etc.
None of those other guys were recruiting Cordell Dorsey at the end. I know that for a fact.
We recruited Dorsey until he was charged with indecency with a child charges. Pretty sure we started his recruiting again when grand jury no-billed him. He was definitely a risk from a PR perspective because the girl was like 11 years old.
What crime has Cordell Dorsey ever been convicted of? What reason did the other programs back off? Every successful program takes a chance on a kid now and then. I am just not Baptist enough to judge anyone and everyone who has been arrested to be "bad dudes." And, maybe Art Briles or someone in his staff was just trying to give someone an opportunity to redeem themselves. (And how Christian is that?)bear2be2 said:Yogi said:1. There certainly are questions as to how Briles handled complaints from accusers who chose to report the alleged crime to the football coach rather than to the university, the university police department, local PD, a doctor, a SANE nurse, etc.Bona Fide Bear said:
It's amazing how many of you are missing the point. These kinds of things are going to happen at every school. But what Briles did wrong is he let sexual assault allegations that he was made aware of never leave his office (or people within his staff). And tangently, Briles May have taken higher risk chances on guys. So unless Rhule tried to hide these allegations and unless Rhule brought in guys with questionable character, the situations aren't the same. Plain and simple.
2. I don't know how things are now at Baylor, but when I was at Baylor, the head football coach was not held responsible for the actions of students who were not on the football team. At Baylor, most of the accused WERE NOT football players. So, the issue wasn't really how Briles handled alleged sexual assault cases as it was how Baylor University handled Title IX cases and then responded to media sensationalism.
3. Art Briles targeted the same recruits as every other football coach. Heck, by 2016, he didn't require bad players on the football team. He was getting almost all of the recruits he was targeting in the first place. And, how do you know who the bad apples are? A criminal record? Remember that juvenile records are sealed. Briles never recruited a recruit with an adult record in his 8 years at Baylor. Are you implying that the head football coach has a duty to interview a potential recruit's family, friends, teachers and other witnesses in determining what kind of kid he is? Does Baylor University? Or is an allegation that Briles went after "bad dudes" really a racist dog whistle for going after minority recruits from poorer neighborhoods?
Let's be brutally honest, here, Art Briles was going after the same athletes as Gary Patterson, Mack Brown, Mike Leach, etc.
None of those other guys were recruiting Cordell Dorsey at the end. I know that for a fact.
The concept of redemption appears notably absent from the Baylor context. We must remember her Christian mission. And all.Yogi said:What crime has Cordell Dorsey ever been convicted of? What reason did the other programs back off? Every successful program takes a chance on a kid now and then. I am just not Baptist enough to judge anyone and everyone who has been arrested to be "bad dudes." And, maybe Art Briles or someone in his staff was just trying to give someone an opportunity to redeem themselves. (And how Christian is that?)bear2be2 said:Yogi said:1. There certainly are questions as to how Briles handled complaints from accusers who chose to report the alleged crime to the football coach rather than to the university, the university police department, local PD, a doctor, a SANE nurse, etc.Bona Fide Bear said:
It's amazing how many of you are missing the point. These kinds of things are going to happen at every school. But what Briles did wrong is he let sexual assault allegations that he was made aware of never leave his office (or people within his staff). And tangently, Briles May have taken higher risk chances on guys. So unless Rhule tried to hide these allegations and unless Rhule brought in guys with questionable character, the situations aren't the same. Plain and simple.
2. I don't know how things are now at Baylor, but when I was at Baylor, the head football coach was not held responsible for the actions of students who were not on the football team. At Baylor, most of the accused WERE NOT football players. So, the issue wasn't really how Briles handled alleged sexual assault cases as it was how Baylor University handled Title IX cases and then responded to media sensationalism.
3. Art Briles targeted the same recruits as every other football coach. Heck, by 2016, he didn't require bad players on the football team. He was getting almost all of the recruits he was targeting in the first place. And, how do you know who the bad apples are? A criminal record? Remember that juvenile records are sealed. Briles never recruited a recruit with an adult record in his 8 years at Baylor. Are you implying that the head football coach has a duty to interview a potential recruit's family, friends, teachers and other witnesses in determining what kind of kid he is? Does Baylor University? Or is an allegation that Briles went after "bad dudes" really a racist dog whistle for going after minority recruits from poorer neighborhoods?
Let's be brutally honest, here, Art Briles was going after the same athletes as Gary Patterson, Mack Brown, Mike Leach, etc.
None of those other guys were recruiting Cordell Dorsey at the end. I know that for a fact.
I'll say this. If he was no-billed by a Grand Jury, chances are he didn't do anything. Apparently, there was no mustard on that ham sandwich.Yogi said:What crime has Cordell Dorsey ever been convicted of? What reason did the other programs back off? Every successful program takes a chance on a kid now and then. I am just not Baptist enough to judge anyone and everyone who has been arrested to be "bad dudes." And, maybe Art Briles or someone in his staff was just trying to give someone an opportunity to redeem themselves. (And how Christian is that?)bear2be2 said:Yogi said:1. There certainly are questions as to how Briles handled complaints from accusers who chose to report the alleged crime to the football coach rather than to the university, the university police department, local PD, a doctor, a SANE nurse, etc.Bona Fide Bear said:
It's amazing how many of you are missing the point. These kinds of things are going to happen at every school. But what Briles did wrong is he let sexual assault allegations that he was made aware of never leave his office (or people within his staff). And tangently, Briles May have taken higher risk chances on guys. So unless Rhule tried to hide these allegations and unless Rhule brought in guys with questionable character, the situations aren't the same. Plain and simple.
2. I don't know how things are now at Baylor, but when I was at Baylor, the head football coach was not held responsible for the actions of students who were not on the football team. At Baylor, most of the accused WERE NOT football players. So, the issue wasn't really how Briles handled alleged sexual assault cases as it was how Baylor University handled Title IX cases and then responded to media sensationalism.
3. Art Briles targeted the same recruits as every other football coach. Heck, by 2016, he didn't require bad players on the football team. He was getting almost all of the recruits he was targeting in the first place. And, how do you know who the bad apples are? A criminal record? Remember that juvenile records are sealed. Briles never recruited a recruit with an adult record in his 8 years at Baylor. Are you implying that the head football coach has a duty to interview a potential recruit's family, friends, teachers and other witnesses in determining what kind of kid he is? Does Baylor University? Or is an allegation that Briles went after "bad dudes" really a racist dog whistle for going after minority recruits from poorer neighborhoods?
Let's be brutally honest, here, Art Briles was going after the same athletes as Gary Patterson, Mack Brown, Mike Leach, etc.
None of those other guys were recruiting Cordell Dorsey at the end. I know that for a fact.
If I recall correctly, and it wasn't reported in a whole lot of detail in the media, he wasn't in town at the time of some of what he was accused of doing so it couldn't have taken place as had been claimed. Of course, that doesn't mean he wasn't guilty of something else, but it is rather difficult to be in two places at the same time.Malbec said:I'll say this. If he was no-billed by a Grand Jury, chances are he didn't do anything. Apparently, there was no mustard on that ham sandwich.Yogi said:What crime has Cordell Dorsey ever been convicted of? What reason did the other programs back off? Every successful program takes a chance on a kid now and then. I am just not Baptist enough to judge anyone and everyone who has been arrested to be "bad dudes." And, maybe Art Briles or someone in his staff was just trying to give someone an opportunity to redeem themselves. (And how Christian is that?)bear2be2 said:Yogi said:1. There certainly are questions as to how Briles handled complaints from accusers who chose to report the alleged crime to the football coach rather than to the university, the university police department, local PD, a doctor, a SANE nurse, etc.Bona Fide Bear said:
It's amazing how many of you are missing the point. These kinds of things are going to happen at every school. But what Briles did wrong is he let sexual assault allegations that he was made aware of never leave his office (or people within his staff). And tangently, Briles May have taken higher risk chances on guys. So unless Rhule tried to hide these allegations and unless Rhule brought in guys with questionable character, the situations aren't the same. Plain and simple.
2. I don't know how things are now at Baylor, but when I was at Baylor, the head football coach was not held responsible for the actions of students who were not on the football team. At Baylor, most of the accused WERE NOT football players. So, the issue wasn't really how Briles handled alleged sexual assault cases as it was how Baylor University handled Title IX cases and then responded to media sensationalism.
3. Art Briles targeted the same recruits as every other football coach. Heck, by 2016, he didn't require bad players on the football team. He was getting almost all of the recruits he was targeting in the first place. And, how do you know who the bad apples are? A criminal record? Remember that juvenile records are sealed. Briles never recruited a recruit with an adult record in his 8 years at Baylor. Are you implying that the head football coach has a duty to interview a potential recruit's family, friends, teachers and other witnesses in determining what kind of kid he is? Does Baylor University? Or is an allegation that Briles went after "bad dudes" really a racist dog whistle for going after minority recruits from poorer neighborhoods?
Let's be brutally honest, here, Art Briles was going after the same athletes as Gary Patterson, Mack Brown, Mike Leach, etc.
None of those other guys were recruiting Cordell Dorsey at the end. I know that for a fact.
