GoldMind said:

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CorsicanaBear said:

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Briles I no longer care about, he's gone.

Unless CMR can go 6-6 this season he is Steele 2.0, or Beall 3.0 and should be shown the door.

You have to admit 1-11 and a loss to Liberty is one hell of a calling card and certainly ought to make us feel confident.

Are you guys still down with the process if we go 3-9? 2-10? I mean the percentage improvements would be huge.

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Who would you replace him with if he's shown the door? That's what the **** I want to hear from y'all.

Dabo?
Bellichick?
Tom Landry?

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Mothra said:

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This is going to be a really short thread. I know of only 2-3 posters that called for his firing after the first season. Many of us were unhappy and felt he underachieved, but recognized the man deserves at least 3 seasons to instill his system and try and turn it around.

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zunooreo said:

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BaylorOkie said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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BaylorOkie said:

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This whole "who would come to Baylor" question continues to be absolutely ridiculous. The people that ask it think that Baylor has to convince a proven, established P5 coach to come to Waco in order to be successful. The reality is that Baylor would most likely hire a top coordinator or a G5 head coach. It wasn't hard to get Briles or Rhule, so why couldn't another up and coming coach be lured? To think otherwise is ridiculous. If you have competent people in place to make the hire, a quality coach will come.

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Firing Rhule after one year would make Baylor an unattractive job to a successful coach and everyone, including the Baylor admin, knows this.

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Much like how one of the worst scandals in college football history made it unattractive.

Edit: sorry, I fat fingered my phone screen, didn't mean to add the emoticon.

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Gust Avrakotos said:

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I don't really understand this so called badge of honor for not wanting him gone. Do u guys want a ribbon or something?

I don't tolerate losing, even in year one when it is compounded by a loss to liberty. Who loses to Liberty?

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Gust Avrakotos said:

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I don't really understand this so called badge of honor for not wanting him gone. Do u guys want a ribbon or something?

I don't tolerate losing, even in year one when it is compounded by a loss to liberty. Who loses to Liberty?

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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BaylorOkie said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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BaylorOkie said:

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This whole "who would come to Baylor" question continues to be absolutely ridiculous. The people that ask it think that Baylor has to convince a proven, established P5 coach to come to Waco in order to be successful. The reality is that Baylor would most likely hire a top coordinator or a G5 head coach. It wasn't hard to get Briles or Rhule, so why couldn't another up and coming coach be lured? To think otherwise is ridiculous. If you have competent people in place to make the hire, a quality coach will come.

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Firing Rhule after one year would make Baylor an unattractive job to a successful coach and everyone, including the Baylor admin, knows this.

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Much like how one of the worst scandals in college football history made it unattractive.

Edit: sorry, I fat fingered my phone screen, didn't mean to add the emoticon.

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Did it not? What proven P5 coach was going to come to Baylor?

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ColomboLQ said:

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zunooreo said:

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Gust Avrakotos said:

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I don't really understand this so called badge of honor for not wanting him gone. Do u guys want a ribbon or something?

I don't tolerate losing, even in year one when it is compounded by a loss to liberty. Who loses to Liberty?

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For Gus.....

So many standing on the Liberty loss as their case. Small consolation, but we shouldn't forget that there were several anomalies in play that first game:
- Starting Anu was clearly the wrong QB (which proved out over the next few games);
- young receivers making a couple of wrong cuts in their very first game;
- Blake playing his very first game at DB;
- and a fluke scramble Flame TD by a QB experiencing the game of his entire career.

Perhaps highlights will remind us of that.

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You're right. The rest of the season would go on to show just how much of a fluke that loss was.

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Yogi said:

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1. Baylor made a mistake in firing Art Briles.

2. Baylor did not make a mistake hiring Matt Rhule. Among the available candidates, Rhule was the best.

3. Very few national championship coaches begin their quest at 1-11.

4. In all truth, Baylor has probably accepted being pushed toward the cellar of the Big XII in football for the time being, but that does help fulfill Baylor's mission of pleasing Jesus through losing.

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D. C. Bear said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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zunooreo said:

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Gust Avrakotos said:

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I don't really understand this so called badge of honor for not wanting him gone. Do u guys want a ribbon or something?

I don't tolerate losing, even in year one when it is compounded by a loss to liberty. Who loses to Liberty?

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For Gus.....

So many standing on the Liberty loss as their case. Small consolation, but we shouldn't forget that there were several anomalies in play that first game:
- Starting Anu was clearly the wrong QB (which proved out over the next few games);
- young receivers making a couple of wrong cuts in their very first game;
- Blake playing his very first game at DB;
- and a fluke scramble Flame TD by a QB experiencing the game of his entire career.

Perhaps highlights will remind us of that.

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You're right. The rest of the season would go on to show just how much of a fluke that loss was.

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Actually, most of the losses that followed, and the lone win, showed exactly that.

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Stranger said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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zunooreo said:

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Gust Avrakotos said:

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I don't really understand this so called badge of honor for not wanting him gone. Do u guys want a ribbon or something?

I don't tolerate losing, even in year one when it is compounded by a loss to liberty. Who loses to Liberty?

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For Gus.....

So many standing on the Liberty loss as their case. Small consolation, but we shouldn't forget that there were several anomalies in play that first game:
- Starting Anu was clearly the wrong QB (which proved out over the next few games);
- young receivers making a couple of wrong cuts in their very first game;
- Blake playing his very first game at DB;
- and a fluke scramble Flame TD by a QB experiencing the game of his entire career.

Perhaps highlights will remind us of that.

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You're right. The rest of the season would go on to show just how much of a fluke that loss was.

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Actually, most of the losses that followed, and the lone win, showed exactly that.

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So DC, are you saying those other ten losses (after Liberty) were "quality" losses?

I can't remember much good about any of them.

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Stranger said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Stranger said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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zunooreo said:

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Gust Avrakotos said:

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I don't really understand this so called badge of honor for not wanting him gone. Do u guys want a ribbon or something?

I don't tolerate losing, even in year one when it is compounded by a loss to liberty. Who loses to Liberty?

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For Gus.....

So many standing on the Liberty loss as their case. Small consolation, but we shouldn't forget that there were several anomalies in play that first game:
- Starting Anu was clearly the wrong QB (which proved out over the next few games);
- young receivers making a couple of wrong cuts in their very first game;
- Blake playing his very first game at DB;
- and a fluke scramble Flame TD by a QB experiencing the game of his entire career.

Perhaps highlights will remind us of that.

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You're right. The rest of the season would go on to show just how much of a fluke that loss was.

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Actually, most of the losses that followed, and the lone win, showed exactly that.

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So DC, are you saying those other ten losses (after Liberty) were "quality" losses?

I can't remember much good about any of them.

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All the other games were data that told us about the Bears' potential. Whether they were wins or losses is beside the point. Losing to Liberty was a fluke that never should have happened, and saying otherwise is ridiculous.

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I say otherwise so I'm ridiculous? Didn't look like a fluke to me. Baylor looked out coached and unprepared to me. That's all about coaching or lack of the same. Our boy Matty appears to be in over his head.

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Stranger said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Stranger said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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zunooreo said:

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Gust Avrakotos said:

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I don't really understand this so called badge of honor for not wanting him gone. Do u guys want a ribbon or something?

I don't tolerate losing, even in year one when it is compounded by a loss to liberty. Who loses to Liberty?

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For Gus.....

So many standing on the Liberty loss as their case. Small consolation, but we shouldn't forget that there were several anomalies in play that first game:
- Starting Anu was clearly the wrong QB (which proved out over the next few games);
- young receivers making a couple of wrong cuts in their very first game;
- Blake playing his very first game at DB;
- and a fluke scramble Flame TD by a QB experiencing the game of his entire career.

Perhaps highlights will remind us of that.

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You're right. The rest of the season would go on to show just how much of a fluke that loss was.

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Actually, most of the losses that followed, and the lone win, showed exactly that.

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So DC, are you saying those other ten losses (after Liberty) were "quality" losses?

I can't remember much good about any of them.

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All the other games were data that told us about the Bears' potential. Whether they were wins or losses is beside the point. Losing to Liberty was a fluke that never should have happened, and saying otherwise is ridiculous.

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I say otherwise so I'm ridiculous? Didn't look like a fluke to me. Baylor looked out coached and unprepared to me. That's all about coaching or lack of the same. Our boy Matty appears to be in over his head.

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BUbearinARK said:

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Gust Avrakotos said:

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I don't really understand this so called badge of honor for not wanting him gone. Do u guys want a ribbon or something?

I don't tolerate losing, even in year one when it is compounded by a loss to liberty. Who loses to Liberty?

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I know LIBERTY! Total looser. Doesn't matter 2 or 40 points I know a loss...11 if you can count!! And having been on the Internet all these years the see-only-gooders can keep us in RUINS by their sunny disposition. Rhule has to be lying or fast talking to be getting top recruits, especially with such a lost look on his face. I mean get some botox! They and their parents must believe in unicorns with the lollipops and rainbows. There can be no potential plan or way to build or perspective we're not seeing on the Internet!! Impossible!

NO RIBBONS! Only "goody goldy Matty Rhullies" medals!!


Hey, there is a rainbow here guys! /s x

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D. C. Bear said:

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Stranger said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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ColomboLQ said:

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zunooreo said:

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Gust Avrakotos said:

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I don't really understand this so called badge of honor for not wanting him gone. Do u guys want a ribbon or something?

I don't tolerate losing, even in year one when it is compounded by a loss to liberty. Who loses to Liberty?

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For Gus.....

So many standing on the Liberty loss as their case. Small consolation, but we shouldn't forget that there were several anomalies in play that first game:
- Starting Anu was clearly the wrong QB (which proved out over the next few games);
- young receivers making a couple of wrong cuts in their very first game;
- Blake playing his very first game at DB;
- and a fluke scramble Flame TD by a QB experiencing the game of his entire career.

Perhaps highlights will remind us of that.

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You're right. The rest of the season would go on to show just how much of a fluke that loss was.

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Actually, most of the losses that followed, and the lone win, showed exactly that.

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So DC, are you saying those other ten losses (after Liberty) were "quality" losses?

I can't remember much good about any of them.

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All the other games were data that told us about the Bears' potential. Whether they were wins or losses is beside the point. Losing to Liberty was a fluke that never should have happened, and saying otherwise is ridiculous.

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GoldMind said:

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BylrFan said:

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BeerThief said:

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They can also tell us why briles and shillinglaw dropped their lawsuits while theyre at it. Since theyre innocent and whatnot.

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Guilty people don't get paid 15 million.

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Innocent people don't get fired.

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DoubleBearClaw said:

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bunation said:

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Rhule WAS THE RIGHT HIRE - BETTER THAN WE DESERVED GIVEN THE MEDIA ONSLAUGHT.

Great recruiter.

Underestimated some things.
Crippled by departures & injuries.
Mediocre offensive line.
Coordinators were poor.
Too many "news." New state. New conference. New players. New coaches. New office/bathroom. New pressures from insane media. New BOR. New fans.

I'll gladly give him another year.

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I'm not happy with CMR's performance up to this point, but his recruiting, the reasons listed above, and his willingness to come here and help us during this mess buys him two more seasons in my book.

I liked CAB too, but the actual mess we should be concerned about was made worse by the BOR and we should cut CMR a little slack.

CAB has also done a lot for Baylor and its not fair for us to forget that. Not appreciating the things people have done for you is not an admirable personal trait either.

Just because you may support CAB doesn't mean you cant support CMR too, we all have a bigger common disgrace among us. I would really like to see this pissing match end so that everyone's outrage can be focused on where it needs to be.

-DBC

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