ok, i could show you many examples of where both sides fit the definition but I digress. Lets go with it is as you say. enjoy your evening.LateSteak69 said:4th and Inches said:i didnt describe anything.. that is the definition of the word. Your bias beleives that describes the right while others will claim it describes the left "with pinpoint accuracy"LateSteak69 said:4th and Inches said:Authoritarianism is characterized by highly concentrated and centralized government power maintained by political repression and the exclusion of potential challengers. It uses political parties and mass organizations to mobilize people around the goals of the regime.LateSteak69 said:Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrats continue at rapid pace to throw out all protocol, policy, and rules to retain power. It's authoritarian.canoso said:Plus, it has been reported this PM that he contributed $2K to Obama's campaign and victory fund in 2008.Redbrickbear said:
The right is far more authoritarian. It's not close.
It is based upon appeals to emotion and identification of the regime as a necessary evil to combat "easily recognizable societal problems, such as underdevelopment or insurgency."
Hope this helps
You just described the right regressionists with pinpoint accuracy.
You defined the regressive right with pinpoint accuracy.
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He defined the regressive left with pinpoint accuracy.LateSteak69 said:4th and Inches said:i didnt describe anything.. that is the definition of the word. Your bias beleives that describes the right while others will claim it describes the left "with pinpoint accuracy"LateSteak69 said:4th and Inches said:Authoritarianism is characterized by highly concentrated and centralized government power maintained by political repression and the exclusion of potential challengers. It uses political parties and mass organizations to mobilize people around the goals of the regime.LateSteak69 said:Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrats continue at rapid pace to throw out all protocol, policy, and rules to retain power. It's authoritarian.canoso said:Plus, it has been reported this PM that he contributed $2K to Obama's campaign and victory fund in 2008.Redbrickbear said:
The right is far more authoritarian. It's not close.
It is based upon appeals to emotion and identification of the regime as a necessary evil to combat "easily recognizable societal problems, such as underdevelopment or insurgency."
Hope this helps
You just described the right regressionists with pinpoint accuracy.
You defined the regressive right with pinpoint accuracy.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
4th and Inches said:ok, i could show you many examples of where both sides fit the definition but I digress. Lets go with it is as you say. enjoy your evening.LateSteak69 said:4th and Inches said:i didnt describe anything.. that is the definition of the word. Your bias beleives that describes the right while others will claim it describes the left "with pinpoint accuracy"LateSteak69 said:4th and Inches said:Authoritarianism is characterized by highly concentrated and centralized government power maintained by political repression and the exclusion of potential challengers. It uses political parties and mass organizations to mobilize people around the goals of the regime.LateSteak69 said:Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrats continue at rapid pace to throw out all protocol, policy, and rules to retain power. It's authoritarian.canoso said:Plus, it has been reported this PM that he contributed $2K to Obama's campaign and victory fund in 2008.Redbrickbear said:
The right is far more authoritarian. It's not close.
It is based upon appeals to emotion and identification of the regime as a necessary evil to combat "easily recognizable societal problems, such as underdevelopment or insurgency."
Hope this helps
You just described the right regressionists with pinpoint accuracy.
You defined the regressive right with pinpoint accuracy.
I'm sure you could.
There is ZERO chance Republicans will regain the house and senate in the November mid terms .
If the radical Dems are ruthless enough to conduct an obvious fishing expedition utilizing the KGB against a former President of the United States...against a potential rival for the office in 2024...........they don't dare allow the Republicans to regain the house speakership and senate majority position.
It is naive in the extreme to believe otherwise.
Doesn't matter if the Republicans win every race by millions of votes ......Dems will utilize voter harvesting , mail in balloting , the DOJ , KGB and to 'win' just enough seats to maintain majorities in the house and senate .
And 90% of the national media will play along .
If the radical Dems are ruthless enough to conduct an obvious fishing expedition utilizing the KGB against a former President of the United States...against a potential rival for the office in 2024...........they don't dare allow the Republicans to regain the house speakership and senate majority position.
It is naive in the extreme to believe otherwise.
Doesn't matter if the Republicans win every race by millions of votes ......Dems will utilize voter harvesting , mail in balloting , the DOJ , KGB and to 'win' just enough seats to maintain majorities in the house and senate .
And 90% of the national media will play along .
Canada2017 said:
There is ZERO chance Republicans will regain the house and senate in the November mid terms .
If the radical Dems are ruthless enough to conduct an obvious fishing expedition utilizing the KGB against a former President of the United States...against a potential rival for the office in 2024...........they don't dare allow the Republicans to regain the house speakership and senate majority position.
It is naive in the extreme to believe otherwise.
Doesn't matter if the Republicans win every race by millions of votes ......Dems will utilize voter harvesting , mail in balloting , the DOJ , KGB and to 'win' just enough seats to maintain majorities in the house and senate .
And 90% of the national media will play along .
MTG, is that you?
I have no idea who or what you are .LateSteak69 said:Canada2017 said:
There is ZERO chance Republicans will regain the house and senate in the November mid terms .
If the radical Dems are ruthless enough to conduct an obvious fishing expedition utilizing the KGB against a former President of the United States...against a potential rival for the office in 2024...........they don't dare allow the Republicans to regain the house speakership and senate majority position.
It is naive in the extreme to believe otherwise.
Doesn't matter if the Republicans win every race by millions of votes ......Dems will utilize voter harvesting , mail in balloting , the DOJ , KGB and to 'win' just enough seats to maintain majorities in the house and senate .
And 90% of the national media will play along .
MTG, is that you?
Have a nice evening .
LateSteak69 said:ATL Bear said:How many FBI agents does it take to search for some documents?Osodecentx said:Serving a lawful warrant is a raid?Sam Lowry said:"Raid" is a very dramatic term. They did obtain a search warrant for some of Hillary's emails.Harrison Bergeron said:So home was raided for threatening our democracy (this occurred after the election)?Sam Lowry said:The Clintons were investigated and rightly so. It didn't cost them their freedom, but it probably cost Hillary the election. I had no complaints. That's the way the ball bounces.Harrison Bergeron said:Did the FBI raid the Clinton compound for attacking our democracy?Sam Lowry said:Well, no, we shouldn't have been. Trump has been openly attacking our democracy for a couple of years now, so it makes sense that the system would fight back.Married A Horn said:
We should not have been shocked.
Who gives a **** how many?
You know you did not reply to a post on how to avoid monkey pox, right?
riflebear said:Osodecentx said:Trump isn't releasing what he was served with.BUbearinARK said:If there was a link to the warrant, it would be all over the internet.Osodecentx said:4th and Inches said:
President Trump's Attorney Alina Habba says Those at Mar-A-Lago were not given a copy of the search warrant
Link?
He is fundraising. I'm sure you have an email. Post it. I'd like to contribute
#1. Trump wasn't there
#2. His attorney was on Watters tonight and said they didn't physically hand the warrant over so who knows if that's true or not.
She also said all the agencies are collectively coming together to target him. That's obvious as that's been happening since 2015/2016.
She did say she wouldn't be surprised if evidence would planted.
They can't be this stupid over at the FBI to do this if they didn't have something serious on him. I kind of hope they do so he won't run and Desantis can blow away the Dem challenger.
If they get away with all this with Trump, what in the world makes yall think they wont do the same to Desantis or anyone worth having in office?
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Harrison Bergeron said:LateSteak69 said:ATL Bear said:How many FBI agents does it take to search for some documents?Osodecentx said:Serving a lawful warrant is a raid?Sam Lowry said:"Raid" is a very dramatic term. They did obtain a search warrant for some of Hillary's emails.Harrison Bergeron said:So home was raided for threatening our democracy (this occurred after the election)?Sam Lowry said:The Clintons were investigated and rightly so. It didn't cost them their freedom, but it probably cost Hillary the election. I had no complaints. That's the way the ball bounces.Harrison Bergeron said:Did the FBI raid the Clinton compound for attacking our democracy?Sam Lowry said:Well, no, we shouldn't have been. Trump has been openly attacking our democracy for a couple of years now, so it makes sense that the system would fight back.Married A Horn said:
We should not have been shocked.
Who gives a **** how many?
You know you did not reply to a post on how to avoid monkey pox, right?
I just turn down your advances. I thought that was implied.
You post squirmy.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Your imagination does not count as a source.LateSteak69 said:Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrats continue at rapid pace to throw out all protocol, policy, and rules to retain power. It's authoritarian.canoso said:Plus, it has been reported this PM that he contributed $2K to Obama's campaign and victory fund in 2008.Redbrickbear said:
The right is far more authoritarian. It's not close.
Right, but facts do. Try to learn about how facts work. Or don't, you're a lost cause so who gives a *****
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Oldbear83 said:You post squirmy.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Your imagination does not count as a source.LateSteak69 said:Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrats continue at rapid pace to throw out all protocol, policy, and rules to retain power. It's authoritarian.canoso said:Plus, it has been reported this PM that he contributed $2K to Obama's campaign and victory fund in 2008.Redbrickbear said:
The right is far more authoritarian. It's not close.
Right, but facts do. Try to learn about how facts work. Or don't, you're a lost cause so who gives a *****
You post Trumpy.
That is the real message with this raid.Married A Horn said:riflebear said:Osodecentx said:Trump isn't releasing what he was served with.BUbearinARK said:If there was a link to the warrant, it would be all over the internet.Osodecentx said:4th and Inches said:
President Trump's Attorney Alina Habba says Those at Mar-A-Lago were not given a copy of the search warrant
Link?
He is fundraising. I'm sure you have an email. Post it. I'd like to contribute
#1. Trump wasn't there
#2. His attorney was on Watters tonight and said they didn't physically hand the warrant over so who knows if that's true or not.
She also said all the agencies are collectively coming together to target him. That's obvious as that's been happening since 2015/2016.
She did say she wouldn't be surprised if evidence would planted.
They can't be this stupid over at the FBI to do this if they didn't have something serious on him. I kind of hope they do so he won't run and Desantis can blow away the Dem challenger.
If they get away with all this with Trump, what in the world makes yall think they wont do the same to Desantis or anyone worth having in office?
' No matter who you are .....if you get in the way of our agenda ......you will pay an immediate price. '
Have seen evidence of this pattern for the last few years .
Flagrant attempts of KBG entrapment ....outright lies from KBG agents......long terms in solitary confinement for the accused .
The Bill of Rights has been repeatedly trampled and everyone merely keeps praying normalcy will somehow return.
It ain't returning .
Like a billionaire who won the White House, then.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:You post squirmy.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Your imagination does not count as a source.LateSteak69 said:Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrats continue at rapid pace to throw out all protocol, policy, and rules to retain power. It's authoritarian.canoso said:Plus, it has been reported this PM that he contributed $2K to Obama's campaign and victory fund in 2008.Redbrickbear said:
The right is far more authoritarian. It's not close.
Right, but facts do. Try to learn about how facts work. Or don't, you're a lost cause so who gives a *****
You post Trumpy.
But no mean tweets from me!
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
If the same courts are making completely opposite decisions, that's tyrannical.Booray said:How novel-he let the courts determine it.riflebear said:— Suzanne Brodbeck (@Suzanne44208) August 9, 2022
Oldbear83 said:Like a billionaire who won the White House, then.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:You post squirmy.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Your imagination does not count as a source.LateSteak69 said:Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrats continue at rapid pace to throw out all protocol, policy, and rules to retain power. It's authoritarian.canoso said:Plus, it has been reported this PM that he contributed $2K to Obama's campaign and victory fund in 2008.Redbrickbear said:
The right is far more authoritarian. It's not close.
Right, but facts do. Try to learn about how facts work. Or don't, you're a lost cause so who gives a *****
You post Trumpy.
But no mean tweets from me!
That makes zero sense assuming you aren't a sexual harassing bankrupt failing businessman who bones porn stars then cons sensible Americans to vote for him and ignore all his crappy failures.
It's ok little buddy, your secret police are making sure Trump can't run for President.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Like a billionaire who won the White House, then.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:You post squirmy.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Your imagination does not count as a source.LateSteak69 said:Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrats continue at rapid pace to throw out all protocol, policy, and rules to retain power. It's authoritarian.canoso said:Plus, it has been reported this PM that he contributed $2K to Obama's campaign and victory fund in 2008.Redbrickbear said:
The right is far more authoritarian. It's not close.
Right, but facts do. Try to learn about how facts work. Or don't, you're a lost cause so who gives a *****
You post Trumpy.
But no mean tweets from me!
That makes zero sense assuming you aren't a sexual harassing bankrupt failing businessman who bones porn stars then cons sensible Americans to vote for him and ignore all his crappy failures.
Now is a good time to figure out how you're gonna equate Desantis to nazis and muh Russia. Good luck!
Translated en gratis.LateSteak69 said:REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!Oldbear83 said:Like a billionaire who won the White House, then.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:You post squirmy.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Your imagination does not count as a source.LateSteak69 said:Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrats continue at rapid pace to throw out all protocol, policy, and rules to retain power. It's authoritarian.canoso said:Plus, it has been reported this PM that he contributed $2K to Obama's campaign and victory fund in 2008.Redbrickbear said:
The right is far more authoritarian. It's not close.
Right, but facts do. Try to learn about how facts work. Or don't, you're a lost cause so who gives a *****
You post Trumpy.
But no mean tweets from me!
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
Doc Holliday said:It's ok little buddy, your secret police are making sure Trump can't run for President.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Like a billionaire who won the White House, then.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:You post squirmy.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Your imagination does not count as a source.LateSteak69 said:Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrats continue at rapid pace to throw out all protocol, policy, and rules to retain power. It's authoritarian.canoso said:Plus, it has been reported this PM that he contributed $2K to Obama's campaign and victory fund in 2008.Redbrickbear said:
The right is far more authoritarian. It's not close.
Right, but facts do. Try to learn about how facts work. Or don't, you're a lost cause so who gives a *****
You post Trumpy.
But no mean tweets from me!
That makes zero sense assuming you aren't a sexual harassing bankrupt failing businessman who bones porn stars then cons sensible Americans to vote for him and ignore all his crappy failures.
Now is a good time to figure out how you're gonna equate Desantis to nazis and muh Russia. Good luck!
Don't pick on Flat Earth.
Doc Holliday said:It's ok little buddy, your secret police are making sure Trump can't run for President.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Like a billionaire who won the White House, then.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:You post squirmy.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Your imagination does not count as a source.LateSteak69 said:Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrats continue at rapid pace to throw out all protocol, policy, and rules to retain power. It's authoritarian.canoso said:Plus, it has been reported this PM that he contributed $2K to Obama's campaign and victory fund in 2008.Redbrickbear said:
The right is far more authoritarian. It's not close.
Right, but facts do. Try to learn about how facts work. Or don't, you're a lost cause so who gives a *****
You post Trumpy.
But no mean tweets from me!
That makes zero sense assuming you aren't a sexual harassing bankrupt failing businessman who bones porn stars then cons sensible Americans to vote for him and ignore all his crappy failures.
Now is a good time to figure out how you're gonna equate Desantis to nazis and muh Russia. Good luck!
Nah, no need there. As far as we know, he doesn't have a track record as a total piece of **** with no political experience. Oddball, yes. But that's fine.
Harrison Bergeron said:Doc Holliday said:It's ok little buddy, your secret police are making sure Trump can't run for President.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Like a billionaire who won the White House, then.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:You post squirmy.LateSteak69 said:Oldbear83 said:Your imagination does not count as a source.LateSteak69 said:Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrats continue at rapid pace to throw out all protocol, policy, and rules to retain power. It's authoritarian.canoso said:Plus, it has been reported this PM that he contributed $2K to Obama's campaign and victory fund in 2008.Redbrickbear said:
The right is far more authoritarian. It's not close.
Right, but facts do. Try to learn about how facts work. Or don't, you're a lost cause so who gives a *****
You post Trumpy.
But no mean tweets from me!
That makes zero sense assuming you aren't a sexual harassing bankrupt failing businessman who bones porn stars then cons sensible Americans to vote for him and ignore all his crappy failures.
Now is a good time to figure out how you're gonna equate Desantis to nazis and muh Russia. Good luck!
Don't pick on Flat Earth.
Take it easy Jewish Space Laser.
Sorta like the last 4 years of BU basketball at the HOT after I'd graduated. I'd get within 10-15 feet of the door, flash my student ID from 1983 and walk right past the ticket takers.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
After raiding President Trump's home at Mar-a-Lago the Stasi-FBI apprehended Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA) and seized his phone.
Rep. Scott Perry is a staunch Trump supporter.
It is now open season for conservatives and patriotic Americans.
The government has declared war on the American people.
87,000 IRS agents headed your way.
Rep. Scott Perry is a staunch Trump supporter.
It is now open season for conservatives and patriotic Americans.
The government has declared war on the American people.
87,000 IRS agents headed your way.
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Married A Horn said:
After raiding President Trump's home at Mar-a-Lago the Stasi-FBI apprehended Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA) and seized his phone.
Rep. Scott Perry is a staunch Trump supporter.
It is now open season for conservatives and patriotic Americans.
The government has declared war on the American people.
87,000 IRS agents headed your way.
The Democrats quickly moved from Soros-funded burners, looters, and murderers as brownshirts to taxpayer-funded brownshirts. And the mouthbreathers will celebrate the authoritarians like Flat Earthers at a ruler convention.
Being obvious for years.Married A Horn said:
It is now open season for conservatives and patriotic Americans.
The government has declared war on the American people.
Began with the election of Barrack Hussein Obama who then politicized the FBI and DOJ.
Then out of nowhere Donald Trump scrambled the radical's time table by upsetting Hillary .
A 'crime' that outraged leftists throughout the media and entertainment industry . Dems have been gunning for him ever since.
Now radicals are coming after anyone who opposes them .
We are witnessing the biggest event in US history.......the end of a noble experiment .
The end of individual liberty and freedom .
The end of your last shred of sanity.Canada2017 said:Being obvious for years.Married A Horn said:
It is now open season for conservatives and patriotic Americans.
The government has declared war on the American people.
Began with the election of Barrack Hussein Obama who then politicized the FBI and DOJ.
Then out of nowhere Donald Trump scrambled the radical's agenda by upsetting Hillary .
A 'crime' that outraged leftists throughout the media and entertainment industry . Dems have been gunning for him ever since.
Now radicals are coming after anyone who opposes them .
We are witnessing the biggest event in US history.......the end of a noble experiment .
The end of individual liberty and freedom .
Today is a good day to re-read Christopher Caldwell's "Regime Change, American Style," on Watergate as successful Deep State fishing expedition against Nixon.
Not very helpful if you're trying to argue the investigation of Trump is unprecedented.Redbrickbear said:
Today is a good day to re-read Christopher Caldwell's "Regime Change, American Style," on Watergate as successful Deep State fishing expedition against Nixon.
Sam Lowry said:Not very helpful if you're trying to argue the investigation of Trump is unprecedented.Redbrickbear said:
Today is a good day to re-read Christopher Caldwell's "Regime Change, American Style," on Watergate as successful Deep State fishing expedition against Nixon.
I actually agree it's not really unprecedented.
The Regime/establishment/powers that be…whatever you want to call them…always move against those they see as a threat.
And they always feel extremely morally justified in doing it.
Average Americans must simply not be allowed to change the country's course or interfere in any fundamental way.
Seriously.....with all the intentional lies and misinformation presented by biased news outlets........exactly what 'facts' would ever alter your preconceived contempt and hatred of this former president ?Booray said:I'll reserve judgment until the facts are known.Canada2017 said:Corrections accepted .......Booray said:9/11Canada2017 said:Good grief.....certainly you can see the difference between the bleating of internet shrills and the ordering of a raid on an ex presidents HOME by his political enemies ?Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:Canada2017 said:You can't possibly support this raid.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Thank God R are better than this kind of circus. I have great cinfidence they will rise above petty paybacks and cheerleading sessions of lock them up chants and return the White houe and congress to respectful gov.
The ramifications are deadly to any democracy .
I dont. I didnt support the lock her up chants led by jail time Stone either or the constant fraudulent claims of a stolen election. I really think the R should pick itself up and become the party that stops wrestling in the mud and saves our country.
I dont hold much hope. Party shills will cry for retribution.
This is the worst national event I can remember since the Challenger blew up .
Katrina
The Pandemic
Great Recession
Innumerable mass shootings
9/11, Katrina, The Pandemic , Las Vegas shooting were all worse than the Challenger disaster.
However this use of the KGB to attack the home of a former president is the biggest political threat to our democracy since Watergate .
most of the outrage about this raid is rooted in the patent double standard at play, about how jarring it is to see how earnestly establishments exercise leniency against individuals in one party while contriving new levels of exactitude against the other.Sam Lowry said:
Anyone going to tell me whether a politician should ever be subject to a search warrant? Or are they above the law?
THAT dynamic is the imminent danger to the Republic. But it serves the vanity of the neverTrumper. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Saving us from ourselves.Redbrickbear said:Sam Lowry said:Not very helpful if you're trying to argue the investigation of Trump is unprecedented.Redbrickbear said:
Today is a good day to re-read Christopher Caldwell's "Regime Change, American Style," on Watergate as successful Deep State fishing expedition against Nixon.
I actually agree it's not really unprecedented.
The Regime/establishment/powers that be…whatever you want to call them…always move against those they see as a threat.
And they always feel extremely morally justified in doing it.
Average Americans must simply not be allowed to change the country's course or interfere in any fundamental way.
This. When we combine this with the made-up and debunked Russian collusion narrative, two impeachments, multiple state and federal investigations, a partisan House investigation that has gone on for months and played out in prime time in order to solicit votes for the Democrats, and now this, it certainly looks like a witch hunt to prevent a disdained political figure from ever running again and/or help Democrats get elected. And although I believe some of the allegations probably have merit, the problem is there have been so many baseless/debunked allegations that those who are leading the charge are like the boy who cried wolf. Are Americans to trust them now after they told us for years that Trump conspired with Russia to rig the 2016 election? Incredibly, it appears they have managed to turn a POS like Trump into a sympathetic figure in many people's eyes.whiterock said:most of the outrage about this raid is rooted in the patent double standard at play, about how jarring it is to see how earnestly establishments exercise leniency against individuals in one party while contriving new levels of exactitude against the other.Sam Lowry said:
Anyone going to tell me whether a politician should ever be subject to a search warrant? Or are they above the law?
THAT dynamic is the imminent danger to the Republic. But it serves the vanity of the neverTrumper. Enjoy it while it lasts.
They should have left well-enough alone, and not have given him the attention. The current strategy may actually get the man elected, God forbid.
You people need to take off your tin foil hats, step away from this forum where you spend more than half of your waking day…get some sunshine, play golf, go fishing, go hunting, do something. It's sad how much this forum is just a echo chamber of the same paranoid, often times, proven wrong folks.