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And this reminds me that when a person or group knows they cannot win on the merits, anything is justified in eliminating political opposition.

Like Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua, who, to guarantee his reelection simply incarcerated on bogus charges each and every one of those who were running against him in the most election cycle.

What country did you say we're living in?

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Sam Lowry said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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OsoSamFanBoy: "Trump can release the warrant "

That would be playing the Left's game, treating the warrant as if it were a legal matter and not a cheap shot publicity stunt.

The DOJ could release the warrant if they wanted to show there was a legit reason for sending 30 armed FBI agents after boxes of conversation transcripts and a doodled map.

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Garland made clear that Trump and his lawyer had the warrant and receipt from Day 1 and could have released it. Since they're not doing so, the Justice Department is asking the court to permit the government to do so.

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Of course our zero-credibility leftist AG sides with Oso and the Washington Post.

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Justice Dept. seeks to unseal motion for search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago
Attorney General Merrick Garland said he personally authorized the request to search Mar-a-Lago on Monday

Attorney General Merrick Garland announced Thursday that the Justice Department has filed a motion for a judge to unseal the court-authorized warrant that led FBI agents to search the Florida residence of former President Donald Trump.
Garland said he personally authorized the request for a search warrant and decided to file the motion to unseal since Trump had confirmed to the public that the FBI raided his property.
The statement Thursday marks Garland's first public appearance or comment since agents executed the warrant at Mar-A-Lago resort, taking about a dozen boxes of material after opening a safe and entering a padlocked storage area.
In keeping with general Justice Department practice, Garland has so far refrained from revealing details about the investigation involving Trump, which people familiar with the situation said is focused on whether the former president or his aides withheld classified or other government material that should have been returned to government custody.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/11/garland-trump-mar-a-lago/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert

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And you believe WaPo's hateful spite? I just checked the Washington Times and didn't see a word about it.

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To everyone demanding to see the Trump warrant: it doesn’t matter what’s in it.

We already know this FBI will fabricate evidence, alter emails, and even pay people to lie to them in order to take down Trump. We know this because we watched them do it.

— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) August 11, 2022

HuMcK said:

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Keep in mind that everything we know about the search so far most likely comes from the Trump camp, trying to set more favorable narratives before any verifiable facts come out, because we know DoJ ain't talking. They could tamp down all the guessing by showing the warrant they were served with, but they have so far refused. The natural question that arises is: why not just show the warrant?

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Doc Holliday said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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OsoSamFanBoy: "Trump can release the warrant "

That would be playing the Left's game, treating the warrant as if it were a legal matter and not a cheap shot publicity stunt.

The DOJ could release the warrant if they wanted to show there was a legit reason for sending 30 armed FBI agents after boxes of conversation transcripts and a doodled map.

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Garland made clear that Trump and his lawyer had the warrant and receipt from Day 1 and could have released it. Since they're not doing so, the Justice Department is asking the court to permit the government to do so.

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Of course our zero-credibility leftist AG sides with Oso and the Washington Post.

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Justice Dept. seeks to unseal motion for search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago
Attorney General Merrick Garland said he personally authorized the request to search Mar-a-Lago on Monday

Attorney General Merrick Garland announced Thursday that the Justice Department has filed a motion for a judge to unseal the court-authorized warrant that led FBI agents to search the Florida residence of former President Donald Trump.
Garland said he personally authorized the request for a search warrant and decided to file the motion to unseal since Trump had confirmed to the public that the FBI raided his property.
The statement Thursday marks Garland's first public appearance or comment since agents executed the warrant at Mar-A-Lago resort, taking about a dozen boxes of material after opening a safe and entering a padlocked storage area.
In keeping with general Justice Department practice, Garland has so far refrained from revealing details about the investigation involving Trump, which people familiar with the situation said is focused on whether the former president or his aides withheld classified or other government material that should have been returned to government custody.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/11/garland-trump-mar-a-lago/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert

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And you believe WaPo's hateful spite? I just checked the Washington Times and didn't see a word about it.

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Here's the deal. The way you view J6 as potentially breaking democracy is exactly what happened with the FBI/DOJ when they fabricated Russiagate and now nobody trusts them.

To everyone demanding to see the Trump warrant: it doesn’t matter what’s in it.

We already know this FBI will fabricate evidence, alter emails, and even pay people to lie to them in order to take down Trump. We know this because we watched them do it.

— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) August 11, 2022

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Rawhide said:

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HuMcK said:

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Keep in mind that everything we know about the search so far most likely comes from the Trump camp, trying to set more favorable narratives before any verifiable facts come out, because we know DoJ ain't talking. They could tamp down all the guessing by showing the warrant they were served with, but they have so far refused. The natural question that arises is: why not just show the warrant?

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Keep in mind that the raid was authorized against a person that could be their political oppenent in 2 years.

I'll ask the same sort of questions of the Biden DOJ. Why not just release the warrant? Why not let any Trump lawyers observe the FBI during the raid? Why hasn't there been a raid on hunter biden's residence? Why no raid on Obama over the docs he took and has never turned over? Why no raid on hillary clinton even after she destroyed evidence?

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Oldbear83 said:

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SamTheSillyLiar: "I was one of his biggest defenders. "

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ScruffyD said:

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If it is classified information, that is not a speeding ticket.

He took it improperly. He was asked for it back. He didn't do it. Do you not wonder why that is?

The storage of classified information was a big deal to many of you in 2016. Interesting that it is less so now. Just tucked in a closet with a padlock at a second rate Bushwood Country Club.

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ScruffyD said:

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I guess it is just lost on most of you that Trump is one of the few candidates Biden can wipe the floor with. Again. Does him no good for this to occur, and it happened right as he was gaining some momentum.

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ScruffyD said:

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If it is classified information, that is not a speeding ticket.

He took it improperly. He was asked for it back. He didn't do it. Do you not wonder why that is?

The storage of classified information was a big deal to many of you in 2016. Interesting that it is less so now. Just tucked in a closet with a padlock at a second rate Bushwood Country Club.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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OsoSamFanBoy: "Trump can release the warrant "

That would be playing the Left's game, treating the warrant as if it were a legal matter and not a cheap shot publicity stunt.

The DOJ could release the warrant if they wanted to show there was a legit reason for sending 30 armed FBI agents after boxes of conversation transcripts and a doodled map.

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Garland made clear that Trump and his lawyer had the warrant and receipt from Day 1 and could have released it. Since they're not doing so, the Justice Department is asking the court to permit the government to do so.

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Of course our zero-credibility leftist AG sides with Oso and the Washington Post.

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Justice Dept. seeks to unseal motion for search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago
Attorney General Merrick Garland said he personally authorized the request to search Mar-a-Lago on Monday

Attorney General Merrick Garland announced Thursday that the Justice Department has filed a motion for a judge to unseal the court-authorized warrant that led FBI agents to search the Florida residence of former President Donald Trump.
Garland said he personally authorized the request for a search warrant and decided to file the motion to unseal since Trump had confirmed to the public that the FBI raided his property.
The statement Thursday marks Garland's first public appearance or comment since agents executed the warrant at Mar-A-Lago resort, taking about a dozen boxes of material after opening a safe and entering a padlocked storage area.
In keeping with general Justice Department practice, Garland has so far refrained from revealing details about the investigation involving Trump, which people familiar with the situation said is focused on whether the former president or his aides withheld classified or other government material that should have been returned to government custody.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/11/garland-trump-mar-a-lago/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert

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And you believe WaPo's hateful spite? I just checked the Washington Times and didn't see a word about it.

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Here's the deal. The way you view J6 as potentially breaking democracy is exactly what happened with the FBI/DOJ when they fabricated Russiagate and now nobody trusts them.

To everyone demanding to see the Trump warrant: it doesn’t matter what’s in it.

We already know this FBI will fabricate evidence, alter emails, and even pay people to lie to them in order to take down Trump. We know this because we watched them do it.

— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) August 11, 2022

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I viewed Russigate as potentially breaking democracy too. But it failed, and the truth was exposed. Strzok and McCabe were fired. Lisa Page resigned. Clinesmith was charged and convicted. I'm not making the leap to say nothing from the DOJ can ever be trusted again.

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ScruffyD said:

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I trust them. I bet you would, too, if someone kidnapped a loved one and you wanted them back. That's part of the whole "back the blue" you guys used to believe in.

And the new mantra of "it was planted" sounds about as reliable as when a drug dealer says it as he is put in the back of a patrol car.

Just amazing the positions you all contort yourselves in, for someone who has for a lifetime engaged in shady, unethical behavior.

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riflebear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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OsoSamFanBoy: "Trump can release the warrant "

That would be playing the Left's game, treating the warrant as if it were a legal matter and not a cheap shot publicity stunt.

The DOJ could release the warrant if they wanted to show there was a legit reason for sending 30 armed FBI agents after boxes of conversation transcripts and a doodled map.

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Garland made clear that Trump and his lawyer had the warrant and receipt from Day 1 and could have released it. Since they're not doing so, the Justice Department is asking the court to permit the government to do so.

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Of course our zero-credibility leftist AG sides with Oso and the Washington Post.

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Justice Dept. seeks to unseal motion for search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago
Attorney General Merrick Garland said he personally authorized the request to search Mar-a-Lago on Monday

Attorney General Merrick Garland announced Thursday that the Justice Department has filed a motion for a judge to unseal the court-authorized warrant that led FBI agents to search the Florida residence of former President Donald Trump.
Garland said he personally authorized the request for a search warrant and decided to file the motion to unseal since Trump had confirmed to the public that the FBI raided his property.
The statement Thursday marks Garland's first public appearance or comment since agents executed the warrant at Mar-A-Lago resort, taking about a dozen boxes of material after opening a safe and entering a padlocked storage area.
In keeping with general Justice Department practice, Garland has so far refrained from revealing details about the investigation involving Trump, which people familiar with the situation said is focused on whether the former president or his aides withheld classified or other government material that should have been returned to government custody.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/11/garland-trump-mar-a-lago/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert

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And you believe WaPo's hateful spite? I just checked the Washington Times and didn't see a word about it.

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Here's the deal. The way you view J6 as potentially breaking democracy is exactly what happened with the FBI/DOJ when they fabricated Russiagate and now nobody trusts them.

To everyone demanding to see the Trump warrant: it doesn’t matter what’s in it.

We already know this FBI will fabricate evidence, alter emails, and even pay people to lie to them in order to take down Trump. We know this because we watched them do it.

— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) August 11, 2022

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I viewed Russigate as potentially breaking democracy too. But it failed, and the truth was exposed. Strzok and McCabe were fired. Lisa Page resigned. Clinesmith was charged and convicted. I'm not making the leap to say nothing from the DOJ can ever be trusted again.

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Well when the target is the same person it's not a 'leap'.

And you know no one was held accountable. They all got book deals and/or TV gigs and were made out to be heroes. The Dems then took back the house in 2018 because of those lies (they all ran on it) and it sent our country into a tailspin we are all still feeling the consequences of. If it wasn't Trump it will be the next person.

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riflebear said:

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ScruffyD said:

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I trust them. I bet you would, too, if someone kidnapped a loved one and you wanted them back. That's part of the whole "back the blue" you guys used to believe in.

And the new mantra of "it was planted" sounds about as reliable as when a drug dealer says it as he is put in the back of a patrol car.

Just amazing the positions you all contort yourselves in, for someone who has for a lifetime engaged in shady, unethical behavior.

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There are over 35k FBI employees. No one is talking about the rank and file, they are talking about those on the upper floors who make these political decisions scheming behind the scenes. I'm sure 99% of the FBI does a great job, unfortunately the corrupt ones are the ones pulling the strings in DC

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But if liberals needed to find their inner Zen when it came to Garland, conservatives are positively unhinged. Their portrayal of Garland and his stewardship of the Justice Department bears no relation to the man or his performance. It is a caricature that would be laughable if it were not so alarming.

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riflebear said:

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ScruffyD said:

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I trust them. I bet you would, too, if someone kidnapped a loved one and you wanted them back. That's part of the whole "back the blue" you guys used to believe in.

And the new mantra of "it was planted" sounds about as reliable as when a drug dealer says it as he is put in the back of a patrol car.

Just amazing the positions you all contort yourselves in, for someone who has for a lifetime engaged in shady, unethical behavior.

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I'm sure 99% of the FBI does a great job,

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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SamTheSillyLiar: "I was one of his biggest defenders. "

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I said you would dodge a substantive question 99% of the time. I may have given you too much credit. I was, as usual, lying out my ass

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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SamTheSillyLiar: "I was one of his biggest defenders. "

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I said you would dodge a substantive question 99% of the time. I may have given you too much credit. I was, as usual, lying out my ass

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Corrected for accuracy.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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SamTheSillyLiar: "I was one of his biggest defenders. "

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I said you would dodge a substantive question 99% of the time. I may have given you too much credit. I was, as usual, lying out my ass

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Corrected for accuracy.

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So…what rights has the FBI violated in this case?

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Fun thread

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Waco1947 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Fun thread

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Yep. I love listening to the sound of feet rushing to defend a lying man.

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4th and Inches said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Fun thread

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Yep. I love listening to the sound of feet rushing to defend a lying man.

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who defended Garland?

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ScruffyD said:

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I trust them. I bet you would, too, if someone kidnapped a loved one and you wanted them back. That's part of the whole "back the blue" you guys used to believe in.

And the new mantra of "it was planted" sounds about as reliable as when a drug dealer says it as he is put in the back of a patrol car.

Just amazing the positions you all contort yourselves in, for someone who has for a lifetime engaged in shady, unethical behavior.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Rawhide said:

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HuMcK said:

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Keep in mind that everything we know about the search so far most likely comes from the Trump camp, trying to set more favorable narratives before any verifiable facts come out, because we know DoJ ain't talking. They could tamp down all the guessing by showing the warrant they were served with, but they have so far refused. The natural question that arises is: why not just show the warrant?

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Keep in mind that the raid was authorized against a person that could be their political oppenent in 2 years.

I'll ask the same sort of questions of the Biden DOJ. Why not just release the warrant? Why not let any Trump lawyers observe the FBI during the raid? Why hasn't there been a raid on hunter biden's residence? Why no raid on Obama over the docs he took and has never turned over? Why no raid on hillary clinton even after she destroyed evidence?

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Facts don't make much of a dent, do they?

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LateSteak69 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Rawhide said:

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HuMcK said:

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Keep in mind that everything we know about the search so far most likely comes from the Trump camp, trying to set more favorable narratives before any verifiable facts come out, because we know DoJ ain't talking. They could tamp down all the guessing by showing the warrant they were served with, but they have so far refused. The natural question that arises is: why not just show the warrant?

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Keep in mind that the raid was authorized against a person that could be their political oppenent in 2 years.

I'll ask the same sort of questions of the Biden DOJ. Why not just release the warrant? Why not let any Trump lawyers observe the FBI during the raid? Why hasn't there been a raid on hunter biden's residence? Why no raid on Obama over the docs he took and has never turned over? Why no raid on hillary clinton even after she destroyed evidence?

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Facts don't make much of a dent, do they?

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not with most people on both sides, no.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Rawhide said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Rawhide said:

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HuMcK said:

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This sounds like a coordinated message at this point: Trump's lawyer, Eric, and now Rand have all done media hits where they push the "planted evidence" line. Should go without saying, but that's not a good talking point to get boxed into.

Rand Paul suggests the FBI may have planted evidence in boxes they seized from Mar-a-Lago pic.twitter.com/3yd6I9tlaa

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 10, 2022

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I won't disagree. I thought the same thing over the whole Russia collusion fake story

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Not allowing the Attorney's to be there, creates this mess. It amazes me how people continue to avoid transparency on things that can come back and bite you.

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Trump is well aware that they don't typically allow attorneys to be there. He's pushing this talking point to create confusion and preemptively cast doubt on whatever he thinks they might find. There's no basis for any presumption that evidence was planted, but that presumption will be established "fact" in MAGA-World within 24 hours if anything incriminating is found.

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It's also not typical to raid the home of a former president, as a matter of fact it has never happened. So you would think they would want this raid to be as transparent as possible and allowing a Lawyer to observe would keep the speculation of inappropriate acts to a minimum.

Instead you have people ransacking Melania's wardrobe, ransacking Trumps private office, breaking into his Safe, things that should be looked at as untowards no matter your political affiliation.

Instead you have maladjusted people cheering these acts on as if somehow they are righteous.

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One or two lawyers can't look over the shoulders of all those agents. Trump would keep the speculation and misdirection at a maximum regardless.

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So no anger from you over the fact that not one of Trump's lawyers were allowed to observe the FBI during the raid?

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Why should I be angry? His lawyers aren't. The only ones worked up are the rubes.

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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How in the world did Christopher Wray get put in charge of the KBG aka FBI? Thats the clown we should all blame for this.

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