Recession

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FLBear5630
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boognish_bear said:


But, they signed the notes. Put em' in jail maybe? How about debtors prison?
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No evidence of a recession in Santa Theresa, New Mexico.

Money flowing throughout all the restaurants and golf courses.
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KaiBear said:

No evidence of a recession in Santa Theresa, New Mexico.

Money flowing throughout all the restaurants and golf courses.


What part of NM is that?
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boognish_bear said:




Truly frightening.

As there is no backstop of funds anywhere to fill the gaps in event of a depression.
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KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




Truly frightening.

As there is no backstop of funds anywhere to fill the gaps in event of a depression.


Is this from defaults or bad investments?

Also, sure seem to give a lot of bonuses. Before we start talking depression, let's see the bonuses dry up .. Not happening so far. So there must be some fat somewhere ...
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




Truly frightening.

As there is no backstop of funds anywhere to fill the gaps in event of a depression.


Is this from defaults or bad investments?

Also, sure seem to give a lot of bonuses. Before we start talking depression, let's see the bonuses dry up .. Not happening so far. So there must be some fat somewhere ...


It's just their investment portfolios. (Corporate bonds, MBS, etc)

I'm a regulator for community banks and virtually every bank I've worked with over the past 2 years has an unrealized loss position, pretty much all caused from the rate hikes over the last few years. The bankers themselves don't seem too worried about it since they don't have any plans to sell off securities any time soon
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boognish_bear said:


Initial jobless claims saw a huge increase and are at a level unseen since the COVID days. The BLS Jobs reports are lagging indicators, but new claims aren't. We're also at COVID levels for long term claims as well. They'll be watching the right things, and job impacts will be realized soon. The ADP private payroll report was much lower ~60K, so don't be surprised with a downward adjustment for April in next month's report from the BLS. Inflation is the wild card as to a rate cut. CPI and PPI coming in a week I think.
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Gonna be a **** storm. Going to supercharge the economy...
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We are doomed

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Well… There's also the fact that he's damn near 100

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We are doomed


well then there WILL be a recession He's mostly wrong on most things.
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Man… you are really stuck in a tough spot if you're having to finance the groceries

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boognish_bear said:


spend in excess but also have to spend in excess as their home and auto insurance went up 25-60%, their grocery bill went up 50%, their health insurance went up 30% and their income went up 8-10% over that time period.
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Damning evidence when a full on depression occurs if will be akin to a wildfire going through tinder dry brush.

As no country has anything approaching the financial means
necessary to survive such a world wide economic collapse.

Could easily resemble the realities of Germany after World War Two……when raw potatoes and other basic foodstuffs became the real currency.

Overpopulation is very possibly going to 'solve' its own problem in the most brutal ways imaginable.
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It's hard to have much empathy for people making poor decisions like this. Get an older reliable used car you can afford if you don't have lots disposable income lying around.

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boognish_bear said:

It's hard to have much empathy for people making poor decisions like this. Get an older reliable used car you can afford if you don't have lots disposable income lying around.


That's going to help a lot now. I am sure the "I told you so" or "You are stupid" tact will help a lot...

Either we bite the bullet or figure a way out. Personally, I say re-fi them. Take less on the interest and get what we can. The more that are able to do that, the better for the economy. Playing hard core and having another 2008, is not going to help. We will pay in other ways, just like then. A lot of this Govt spending started with the TIGER and other loan programs we couldn't afford. They were funding ANYTHING that was shovel ready. Between that and the bailout, we sure showed those stupid people.
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If our own government doesn't have to live within their means, why should the rest of us?

$700- $800 car payments are insane. The insurance on the same cars are equally insane. Pay your vehicle off and drive it until the wheels fall off. If you insist on having a brand new car just to keep up with the Joneses, you are going to lose.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

If our own government doesn't have to live within their means, why should the rest of us?

$700- $800 car payments are insane. The insurance on the same cars are equally insane. Pay your vehicle off and drive it until the wheels fall off. If you insist on having a brand new car just to keep up with the Joneses, you are going to lose.
Agreed. I can never understand folks who buy cars they can't afford. I do understand that some people need to have a car payment for different reasons, but it needs to be a lesser car. I have always bought cars that I could afford to pay cash for and I had some beaters back in the day. I have never bought a new car. I buy certified pre-owned and let someone else pay the depreciation when it is rolled off the lot.
 
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