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In reply to FLBear5630 • 10:05a, 10/8/25
Sure, Nancy.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 10:10a, 10/8/25
FLBear5630 said:
boognish_bear said:
boognish_bear said:


Looks like in that same time frame electricity prices have gone up 30% in Texas also


Same here in FL. Everything is up. Groceries are bad. Averaging $20 to 30$ more per week.


Agreed

Groceries are up about 5 %.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 12:08p, 10/8/25
Oldbear83 said:
Sure, Nancy.

You keep being the lap dog you are, you do it so well. Maybe you should buy some more Donald Meme Crypto. He needs your support. Donald can count on you, no matter what he does. Here is a little something for you.





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In reply to FLBear5630 • 12:57p, 10/8/25
That's not raising your quality, you know.

And you got both wrong.

Stellar batting avg. you got there, hoss.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 2:21p, 10/8/25
Oldbear83 said:
That's not raising your quality, you know.

And you got both wrong.

Stellar batting avg. you got there, hoss.


For you, I will make an exception
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In reply to boognish_bear • 2:32p, 10/8/25
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RV mechanic visits are up though
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 3:26p, 10/8/25
FLBear5630 said:
Oldbear83 said:
That's not raising your quality, you know.

And you got both wrong.

Stellar batting avg. you got there, hoss.


For you, I will make an exception


Meaning what? That you feel no obligation to accuracy or the point?

Nothing new there, sir. Not since Trump was elected again.

And if you imagine I am Trump's fan (let alone his most ardent), you are missing not just the target, but the barn behind it, the field behind that, and the county beyond that.

I am not always happy with the President's style or tactics, but he IS the duly - elected President of the United States, and he has significant reasons to act as he does.

Your unending wails and pants-wetting, on the other hand, are not useful in any valid argument, and make you look like Gavin Newsom on a bender.

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5:07p, 10/8/25
Well Mr hawley you run for US Senator

McDonald pays 44k
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In reply to boognish_bear • 7:52a, 10/9/25
boognish_bear said:

deer corn is $5.99 at Atwoods. Last year, it was $9.99.
Meanwhile, beef is at all time highs.

Beef and grain prices often run in inverse cycles - when grain prices are high, beef prices are low; when grain prices are low, beef prices are high. That's not exactly a surprise, given that grains are part of the value add expense in a feedlot.
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In reply to whiterock • 8:03a, 10/9/25
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:

deer corn is $5.99 at Atwoods. Last year, it was $9.99.
Meanwhile, beef is at all time highs.

Beef and grain prices often run in inverse cycles - when grain prices are high, beef prices are low; when grain prices are low, beef prices are high. That's not exactly a surprise, given that grains are part of the value add expense in a feedlot.


On the one hand it seems counterintuitive, but it's really not when you think about it.
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In reply to D. C. Bear • 9:13a, 10/9/25
D. C. Bear said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:

deer corn is $5.99 at Atwoods. Last year, it was $9.99.
Meanwhile, beef is at all time highs.

Beef and grain prices often run in inverse cycles - when grain prices are high, beef prices are low; when grain prices are low, beef prices are high. That's not exactly a surprise, given that grains are part of the value add expense in a feedlot.


On the one hand it seems counterintuitive, but it's really not when you think about it.

Yep. Price point on the shelf tends to be sticky. So when price of one ingredient goes up, it puts downward pressures on others. Both beef and grains are commodities traded on CBOT, so the market can easily work that out.
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In reply to whiterock • 9:43a, 10/9/25
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:

deer corn is $5.99 at Atwoods. Last year, it was $9.99.
Meanwhile, beef is at all time highs.

Beef and grain prices often run in inverse cycles - when grain prices are high, beef prices are low; when grain prices are low, beef prices are high. That's not exactly a surprise, given that grains are part of the value add expense in a feedlot.

Not a hunter, but that always seems like cheating to me.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 9:56a, 10/9/25
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 4:09p, 10/9/25
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more..
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 5:06p, 10/9/25
And reduce the tax loopholes.
The federal deficit is a ticking tomb bomb.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 6:17p, 10/9/25
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?
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In reply to whiterock • 6:46p, 10/9/25
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?


That is a BS analysis.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 8:30p, 10/9/25
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?


That is a BS analysis.

Not at all. We all know that's your domain these days, FLBear
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 11:12p, 10/9/25
Oldbear83 said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?


That is a BS analysis.

Not at all. We all know that's your domain these days, FLBear


My domain? Reality versus MAGA messaging?
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 5:47a, 10/10/25
FLBear5630 said:
Oldbear83 said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?


That is a BS analysis.

Not at all. We all know that's your domain these days, FLBear


My domain? Reality versus MAGA messaging?


Much more like your spite versus the clear will of the voters.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 6:59a, 10/10/25
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?


That is a BS analysis.

No, it is simple math, which marxist dialectics are purpose-built to avoid.

Marx was a loser.
Marxism is the philosophy of losing.
Don't be a loser.

"You can't lift the little guy up by tearing the big guys down."
-Abraham Lincoln
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In reply to whiterock • 8:51a, 10/10/25
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?


That is a BS analysis.

No, it is simple math, which marxist dialectics are purpose-built to avoid.

Marx was a loser.
Marxism is the philosophy of losing.
Don't be a loser.

"You can't lift the little guy up by tearing the big guys down."
-Abraham Lincoln

Your "math" is what created unions. Your "math" created strikes. Your math created rebellions. How's the cake?
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 6:34a, 10/11/25
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?


That is a BS analysis.

No, it is simple math, which marxist dialectics are purpose-built to avoid.

Marx was a loser.
Marxism is the philosophy of losing.
Don't be a loser.

"You can't lift the little guy up by tearing the big guys down."
-Abraham Lincoln

Your "math" is what created unions. Your "math" created strikes. Your math created rebellions. How's the cake?

LOL such profound and persistent cause & effect errors.

Unions were not formed to limit pay for the CEO.
Unions were formed to secure higher pay for the worker.
Everything else is rhetoric.
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In reply to whiterock • 8:43a, 10/11/25
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?


That is a BS analysis.

No, it is simple math, which marxist dialectics are purpose-built to avoid.

Marx was a loser.
Marxism is the philosophy of losing.
Don't be a loser.

"You can't lift the little guy up by tearing the big guys down."
-Abraham Lincoln

Your "math" is what created unions. Your "math" created strikes. Your math created rebellions. How's the cake?

LOL such profound and persistent cause & effect errors.

Unions were not formed to limit pay for the CEO.
Unions were formed to secure higher pay for the worker.
Everything else is rhetoric.


And you see no connection with your math? No connecting between worker pay failing to keep up with cost of living in and multi million dollar bonuses and executive raises? Rising tide only helps smaller boats if they are included. You see no issue having Execs make the same as the GDP of small Nations and workers getting furloughed and no raises. We are crossing into oligarchy. Which fits the rest of your pro Trump stuff. So not surprised.
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Chicken and pork time

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In reply to whiterock • 9:10p, 10/11/25
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?


That is a BS analysis.

No, it is simple math, which marxist dialectics are purpose-built to avoid.

Marx was a loser.
Marxism is the philosophy of losing.
Don't be a loser.

"You can't lift the little guy up by tearing the big guys down."
-Abraham Lincoln

Funny, you are the only one that ever mentions Marx. I have not seen ONE person come on hear and say that Marx was right and we need Karl Marx based economy. Only you. Please cut with the extremes and negative implications. There is a whole range of economics between Marx and what we are seeing today.

You also leave out that if Ford pays him $70 an employee and he makes the poverty rate of 12m a year, there is 12M left to reinvest in human or capital resources. Your analysis pretends that the $140 is fixed, it is not. 12M a year not enough? Is it insulting? The mathematics are out of whack because we are managing for Wall Street.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 6:47a, 10/12/25
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?


That is a BS analysis.

No, it is simple math, which marxist dialectics are purpose-built to avoid.

Marx was a loser.
Marxism is the philosophy of losing.
Don't be a loser.

"You can't lift the little guy up by tearing the big guys down."
-Abraham Lincoln

Your "math" is what created unions. Your "math" created strikes. Your math created rebellions. How's the cake?

LOL such profound and persistent cause & effect errors.

Unions were not formed to limit pay for the CEO.
Unions were formed to secure higher pay for the worker.
Everything else is rhetoric.


And you see no connection with your math? No connecting between worker pay failing to keep up with cost of living in and multi million dollar bonuses and executive raises? Rising tide only helps smaller boats if they are included. You see no issue having Execs make the same as the GDP of small Nations and workers getting furloughed and no raises. We are crossing into oligarchy. Which fits the rest of your pro Trump stuff. So not surprised.

You are railing against reality, which in this case is simple math = limiting CEO pay will have zero effect whatsoever on worker wages. All you're doing by connecting the two is engaging in class warfare, which will do nothing to help workers. It's just virtue signaling on your part.

If you want to raise workers wages, first thing you would need to do is shut down the border crossing machine feeding more and more labor into our markets, since increased supply inexorably tends to drive down wages. (Trump has done that). Second thing you'll need to do is quit shipping jobs to factories overseas. Tariffs would be a good first step, as they will offset all the subsidies & regulatory protections foreign countries extend to their corporations to give them competitive advantages against our companies. (Trump has done that). Third thing you need to do is generate massive investments in plant & equipment HERE. (Trump has done that). Nothing radical or genius in any of that. It's straight from the economics textbooks.

Yet, here you are whining again about the Orange Man Bad.
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FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?


That is a BS analysis.

No, it is simple math, which marxist dialectics are purpose-built to avoid.

Marx was a loser.
Marxism is the philosophy of losing.
Don't be a loser.

"You can't lift the little guy up by tearing the big guys down."
-Abraham Lincoln

Funny, you are the only one that ever mentions Marx. I have not seen ONE person come on hear and say that Marx was right and we need Karl Marx based economy. Only you. Please cut with the extremes and negative implications. There is a whole range of economics between Marx and what we are seeing today.
Quit playing marxists games and you'll quit winning marxist prizes.

You also leave out that if Ford pays him $70 an employee and he makes the poverty rate of 12m a year, there is 12M left to reinvest in human or capital resources. Your analysis pretends that the $140 is fixed, it is not. 12M a year not enough? Is it insulting? The mathematics are out of whack because we are managing for Wall Street.
That is absolutely chaotic. The poverty rate is not 12m per year. $140 is $140. Sure you can edit and clarify, but it does not change the simple math = eliminating CEO pay will raise Ford employees wages about $2.69 per WEEK (about $0.67 per hour).

"You can't lift the little guy up by tearing the big guys down."
-Abraham Lincoln
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In reply to whiterock • 9:11a, 10/12/25
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:

Amazon has a $2.4 trillion market cap and their CEO makes less money than 16 NFL quarterbacks...

These kind of arguments avoid the real problem.

The real problem is lessening buying power which is caused by printing trillions of dollars which has a major artificial effect on supply/demand.


You cant compare entertainment salaries of top performers to anyone but each other. Ot is not a fair comparison. CEOs and Execs do kot need higher salaries or bonuses. They are all ready at all time highs. Pay the workers more.

I highlighted the part in bold so you could reflect on it further.

CEO of Ford makes $24m/yr.
Ford has 171k employees, who have a median salary of $98k.

So let's do the math.
$24m ceo pay (divided by) 171k employees = $140 per employee

So you want to fix (whatever problem you think there is) by forcing the CEO Ford to work for free and redistributing his salary, which would give $140 per year to the 171k Ford employees, and keep letting the Federal Government inflate the currency which will reduce the purchasing power of that $98k salary by $5-10k/yr.

Really?
Pointless virtue signaling on class warfare memes while inflating away blue collar purchasing power is your preferred solution?
Democrat much?


That is a BS analysis.

No, it is simple math, which marxist dialectics are purpose-built to avoid.

Marx was a loser.
Marxism is the philosophy of losing.
Don't be a loser.

"You can't lift the little guy up by tearing the big guys down."
-Abraham Lincoln

Funny, you are the only one that ever mentions Marx. I have not seen ONE person come on hear and say that Marx was right and we need Karl Marx based economy. Only you. Please cut with the extremes and negative implications. There is a whole range of economics between Marx and what we are seeing today.
Quit playing marxists games and you'll quit winning marxist prizes.

You also leave out that if Ford pays him $70 an employee and he makes the poverty rate of 12m a year, there is 12M left to reinvest in human or capital resources. Your analysis pretends that the $140 is fixed, it is not. 12M a year not enough? Is it insulting? The mathematics are out of whack because we are managing for Wall Street.
That is absolutely chaotic. The poverty rate is not 12m per year. $140 is $140. Sure you can edit and clarify, but it does not change the simple math = eliminating CEO pay will raise Ford employees wages about $2.69 per WEEK (about $0.67 per hour).

"You can't lift the little guy up by tearing the big guys down."
-Abraham Lincoln

Or, it is invested in benefits or plant modernization or giving the employees a .50 cent raise. The fact that you think a $.50 an hour raise is insubstantial shows where you stand and how much time you spent with the actual people that do the work. ANYTHING helps. If nothing else, it shows that they are appreciated and when possible the Company will spread the wealth.

You on the other hand, think giving the whole 12M to the CEO so his salary can go from 12M to 24M is better than giving all the workers a fifty cent an hour raise because that amount is worthless. THINK ABOUT THAT. Talk about haves and have nots...
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