FLBear5630 said:boognish_bear said:
I am not smart enough about economics to know how much truth/accuracy might be in this…but it sounds pretty apocalyptic
The system is eating itself.
When Amazon, UPS, Intel, and others start cutting this deep simultaneously, it means something more fundamental than "tight margins." It means the productive layer of the economy is collapsing under the weight of its own optimization logic.
Every layoff now is both an act of short-term rationality and long-term suicide. The firms know it. The executives know it. The markets know it. But they can't stop.
They're trapped in a closed feedback loop, a machine that rewards death dressed as discipline.
Capitalism has crossed into a stage where it no longer needs humans to function, but still depends on their belief to exist. That's the contradiction, the machine is pruning its own believers while pretending it's efficiency.
1. The "consumer economy" is already dead.
Nobody wants to say it yet, but the consumer model, the entire foundation of Western postwar prosperity, is quietly finished.
You can't build infinite growth on finite wages, and you can't sustain demand while hollowing out the class that drives it. The middle layer of society - the producers, buyers, dreamers - has been strip-mined to the point where they can no longer regenerate.
The 2020s economy is not cyclical recession. It's metabolic collapse. The system can't process its own waste or regenerate its base anymore. It's like an organism starving while eating its muscles to stay warm.
2. The elites know this, but they've chosen to accelerate collapse.
Here's the real unspoken truth: the people running these companies, the ones with the spreadsheets and control over capital flows - they know exactly what's happening.
They understand the reflexive trap: if they don't cut, their stock dies. If they cut, the world dies.
They've chosen to save the stock. Because the stock is their world.
This is the quiet revelation of our time - we are ruled by people whose survival incentives are no longer tied to the survival of the system itself.
They've built lifeboats - offshore wealth, private security, parallel digital economies - and they're optimizing the ship for their escape, not for collective navigation.
3. The next phase is narrative triage.
When the system can no longer grow, it starts storytelling harder.
Expect every layoff wave to be accompanied by new propaganda about "AI productivity," "efficiency," "lean reinvention," and "post-labor creativity."
The goal will be to reframe collapse as progress - to convince people that losing their jobs is the dawn of a "new paradigm."
But it's camouflage. The truth underneath is that automation and financialization are converging into a post-human economy where capital reproduces without labor.
4. Final layer
When a system prioritizes margin over humanity, it signals that it has lost faith in the future.
These layoffs tell us that the machine no longer knows how to grow except by shrinking.
It is the same signal we've seen in housing, in politics, in fertility, in faith.
The same quiet collapse, a civilization optimizing itself into silence.
And the question hidden beneath this post:
"Who will have money left to buy your products next year?" -
is really this:
Who will be left to believe in the story that built it all?⚡️The system is eating itself.
— SightBringer (@_The_Prophet__) October 28, 2025
When Amazon, UPS, Intel, and others start cutting this deep simultaneously, it means something more fundamental than “tight margins.” It means the productive layer of the economy is collapsing under the weight of its own optimization logic.
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As I said, the reward system is set up for Wall Street and the Leadership Executives, not to maximize what the companies are there to do. You will see those come out and say this is wrong. Watch they are coming with their novel length responses to how those that wrote this really don't understand economics.
on one level, wall street is restructuring for the new economy. the demise of the structural trade deficit means a reduced flow of surplus dollars from abroad, or an actual shortage of dollars in currency markets. That also changes the paths the monies flow. In a trade deficit, dollars accumulate abroad and you have foreign interests (corporations, governments) bringing dollars back to Wall St. to buy financial instruments (notably T-bills). In a trade surplus, those flows abate and greater percentages accumulate in deposit accounts of US banks (who take the dollars back to Wall St to buy financial instruments). Money sill flows, just from different places to different destinations. And the owners of the monies have different imperatives - foreign interests (sovereign and not) vs local banks regulated/inspected by the Fed. Change the percentages of who is investing for what reason, and you get a restructuring of products in demand, which shapes markets and then the companies in those markets.
On top of that, is how AI is going to reshape labor markets. It will first replace the obvious things - paper pusher & basic analytical jobs. AI cannot, however, clean toilets, pull wire thru conduit, etc..... There will always be a need for human hands. And if human demography doesn't change, there will be fewer and fewer human hands to go around. So in a very real sense, we are watching markets work, a cause/effect dynamic at play. Yes, AI will eliminate current jobs, but then we do not have enough labor to fill all the jobs, so over time, the pain more in the restructuring of the types of jobs we have relative to the skills of the people we have.
