Costco again for the win !!!!! pic.twitter.com/KbFtlxJyrq
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The stock market isn't the problem.Porteroso said:
I cannot believe you guys think Trump has nothing to do with the stock market nose diving. You can literally just watch for his tweets and public statements, then go look at the market and see red. It cannot be any clearer.
He is a mess. I think he is much sloppier this time, just aging taking its toll on his mind.
The problem is a lack of jobs and low wages which stems from a few decades of bad economic decisions, ridiculous spending and poor governance.
At the root it's the largest banks in the world driving all of this.historian said:Doc Holliday said:
Divide SPY by the Fed balance sheet and it has gone nowhere since 2008.
The real recession began in 2008 and it never ended, it was just covered up via QE and fiscal spending to goose GDP.
We've seen huge stock market gains, but financial markets are increasingly disconnected from the real economy. Wages aren't keeping up and workforce participation has been falling.
It's all been a boom for financial assets and corporations- the rest of the country is increasingly left behind.
That's probably by design. The globalists keep getting richer & more power & everyone else suffers. Maybe they think we will eventually surrender to their leaders up, only drive EVs, and accept the need to eat bugs. If they think that, they are stupid.
The more powerful they become, the more we're treated like domesticated animals. When we comply with tyranny, we get more tyranny.
Naturally, they will be raising their prices as well.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
historian said:
Naturally, they will be raising their prices as well.
But… Not on those hotdogs
Trumps predictable but idiotic trade war has made me a lot of money this week on the market
Same. That his idiocy is predictable has been the saving grace for my investments.
Come on, where was it when Biden left? Biden is responsible for alot of things, none of it good. But, the current situation is as bad as it is because of Trump and the Chainsaw approach to domestic policy, foreign relations, trade relations. The only thing he has handled professionally is the border, he is knocking it out of the park there.Oldbear83 said:So Biden has no responsibility for this mess.BearTruth13 said:Oldbear83 said:BearTruth13 said:
Gotta love blaming Trump for no reason
You do you
Also no reason? A 10% move downward in the last 2 weeks is 150% due to his trade war rhetoric.
OK Hunter.
boognish_bear said:historian said:
Naturally, they will be raising their prices as well.
But… Not on those hotdogs
Probably not. But on everything else.
With the hot dogs, they can find other ways to save money by using cheaper meat. Maybe I should say "meat" since they are hot dogs.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
Bull***** Trump inherited an economy much worse than advertised because the media covered for Biden.FLBear5630 said:Come on, where was it when Biden left? Biden is responsible for alot of things, none of it good. But, the current situation is as bad as it is because of Trump and the Chainsaw approach to domestic policy, foreign relations, trade relations. The only thing he has handled professionally is the border, he is knocking it out of the park there.Oldbear83 said:So Biden has no responsibility for this mess.BearTruth13 said:Oldbear83 said:BearTruth13 said:
Gotta love blaming Trump for no reason
You do you
Also no reason? A 10% move downward in the last 2 weeks is 150% due to his trade war rhetoric.
OK Hunter.
The plain fact is you don't have a clue what's going on, because every one of your senses is based only on finding poo to fling at Trump.
Of course, what should we expect from someone who pretends to care about government waste, but squeals anytime someone makes a serious effort to fix this mess.
Oldbear83 said:Bull***** Trump inherited an economy much worse than advertised because the media covered for Biden.FLBear5630 said:Come on, where was it when Biden left? Biden is responsible for alot of things, none of it good. But, the current situation is as bad as it is because of Trump and the Chainsaw approach to domestic policy, foreign relations, trade relations. The only thing he has handled professionally is the border, he is knocking it out of the park there.Oldbear83 said:So Biden has no responsibility for this mess.BearTruth13 said:Oldbear83 said:BearTruth13 said:
Gotta love blaming Trump for no reason
You do you
Also no reason? A 10% move downward in the last 2 weeks is 150% due to his trade war rhetoric.
OK Hunter.
The plain fact is you don't have a clue what's going on, because every one of your senses is based only on finding poo to fling at Trump.
Of course, what should we expect from someone who pretends to care about government waste, but squeals anytime someone makes a serious effort to fix this mess.
Wow, talk about delusional justification. The market is in the tank, if this was Biden you would be all over him. Trump gets not only a pass, but a pat on the back. You are as bad as the Dems... Just make up what you want to be true because you got man-crush. Pathetic.
You do you, Mr. Trudeau ...
All you got is lies, spite and arrogance.
All you got is lies, spite and arrogance.
Oldbear83 said:
You do you, Mr. Trudeau ...
All you got is lies, spite and arrogance.
Hey, did you see we restarted Ukraine support. Just like you, theater
Son, you have the depth of a sheet of paper.FLBear5630 said:Oldbear83 said:
You do you, Mr. Trudeau ...
All you got is lies, spite and arrogance.
Hey, did you see we restarted Ukraine support. Just like you, theater
Only idiots and Democrats believed we were deserting Ukraine.
But there is more to the matter than you seem to grasp.
Sadly, that has become your norm. If you can't bring it up to insult the President, you think it didn't happen.
Oldbear83 said:Son, you have the depth of a sheet of paper.FLBear5630 said:Oldbear83 said:
You do you, Mr. Trudeau ...
All you got is lies, spite and arrogance.
Hey, did you see we restarted Ukraine support. Just like you, theater
Only idiots and Democrats believed we were deserting Ukraine.
But there is more to the matter than you seem to grasp.
Sadly, that has become your norm. If you can't bring it up to insult the President, you think it didn't happen.
What? We were going to end this in a day... But, don't tell me, not really. Nobody believed that. What else did nobody believe. Geez, you have it bad. You know sometimes people just can't deliver, it is ok. You believed him.
Just a reminder, Donald Trump is not hiding under your bed, waiting to get you.FLBear5630 said:Oldbear83 said:Son, you have the depth of a sheet of paper.FLBear5630 said:Oldbear83 said:
You do you, Mr. Trudeau ...
All you got is lies, spite and arrogance.
Hey, did you see we restarted Ukraine support. Just like you, theater
Only idiots and Democrats believed we were deserting Ukraine.
But there is more to the matter than you seem to grasp.
Sadly, that has become your norm. If you can't bring it up to insult the President, you think it didn't happen.
What? We were going to end this in a day... But, don't tell me, not really. Nobody believed that. What else did nobody believe. Geez, you have it bad. You know sometimes people just can't deliver, it is ok. You believed him.
He's far away in Washington, D.C. and you can relax.
The bad news is, all the crappy things you have been experiencing are pretty much just the result of your delusion and paranoia.
TDS is a terrible thing, folks.
The Biden economy was bad and heading this way.
Yes tariffs are impacting the stock market.
Ukraine and Europe are having an impact with more instability
The globalist owned central banks/large institutions are moving the market
If we actually start reducing national debt, it will contract the money supply which will reduce asset prices.
Driving business INTO the US will keep more money in the communities and somewhat offset and help with the contracted money supply and strengthen corporations balance sheets.
Yes tariffs are impacting the stock market.
Ukraine and Europe are having an impact with more instability
The globalist owned central banks/large institutions are moving the market
If we actually start reducing national debt, it will contract the money supply which will reduce asset prices.
Driving business INTO the US will keep more money in the communities and somewhat offset and help with the contracted money supply and strengthen corporations balance sheets.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.
It's amazing how often discussions on these boards descend into pissing contests between people acting like 12 year olds!
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
We're in a recession but the government has been giving the economy about $5 trillion every year since 2020 in borrowed money.
Prior to 2020 our government was injecting about $500 billion every year and that money wasn't taken from Taxes. Not swap and spit, it was new money that went to the money supply.
Today, we live in a completely artificial economy. This was carried out mostly by the Biden administration who was trying desperately to not have the bad effects of a recession. They borrowed absurd amounts of money and injected it and said "see it's fine". This is what created all the inflation btw.
Here are the options:
1.) If the government stops spending, the economy will retract and go into a MASSIVE recession.
2.) if the government continues to spend borrowed money, we will continue to increase inflation and compound the core issue more.
Prior to 2020 our government was injecting about $500 billion every year and that money wasn't taken from Taxes. Not swap and spit, it was new money that went to the money supply.
Today, we live in a completely artificial economy. This was carried out mostly by the Biden administration who was trying desperately to not have the bad effects of a recession. They borrowed absurd amounts of money and injected it and said "see it's fine". This is what created all the inflation btw.
Here are the options:
1.) If the government stops spending, the economy will retract and go into a MASSIVE recession.
2.) if the government continues to spend borrowed money, we will continue to increase inflation and compound the core issue more.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
Doc Holliday said:
We're in a recession but the government has been giving the economy about $5 trillion every year since 2020 in borrowed money.
Prior to 2020 our government was injecting about $500 billion every year and that money wasn't taken from Taxes. Not swap and spit, it was new money that went to the money supply.
Today, we live in a completely artificial economy. This was carried out mostly by the Biden administration who was trying desperately to not have the bad effects of a recession. They borrowed absurd amounts of money and injected it and said "see it's fine". This is what created all the inflation btw.
Here are the options:
1.) If the government stops spending, the economy will retract and go into a MASSIVE recession.
2.) if the government continues to spend borrowed money, we will continue to increase inflation and compound the core issue more.
It will only feel like a "massive" recession to all the people who live beyond their means and haven't used the last 4 years building wealth and saving.
Which is 90% of all AmericansThe_barBEARian said:Doc Holliday said:
We're in a recession but the government has been giving the economy about $5 trillion every year since 2020 in borrowed money.
Prior to 2020 our government was injecting about $500 billion every year and that money wasn't taken from Taxes. Not swap and spit, it was new money that went to the money supply.
Today, we live in a completely artificial economy. This was carried out mostly by the Biden administration who was trying desperately to not have the bad effects of a recession. They borrowed absurd amounts of money and injected it and said "see it's fine". This is what created all the inflation btw.
Here are the options:
1.) If the government stops spending, the economy will retract and go into a MASSIVE recession.
2.) if the government continues to spend borrowed money, we will continue to increase inflation and compound the core issue more.
It will only feel like a "massive" recession to all the people who live beyond their means and haven't used the last 4 years building wealth and saving.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
Doc Holliday said:Which is 90% of all AmericansThe_barBEARian said:Doc Holliday said:
We're in a recession but the government has been giving the economy about $5 trillion every year since 2020 in borrowed money.
Prior to 2020 our government was injecting about $500 billion every year and that money wasn't taken from Taxes. Not swap and spit, it was new money that went to the money supply.
Today, we live in a completely artificial economy. This was carried out mostly by the Biden administration who was trying desperately to not have the bad effects of a recession. They borrowed absurd amounts of money and injected it and said "see it's fine". This is what created all the inflation btw.
Here are the options:
1.) If the government stops spending, the economy will retract and go into a MASSIVE recession.
2.) if the government continues to spend borrowed money, we will continue to increase inflation and compound the core issue more.
It will only feel like a "massive" recession to all the people who live beyond their means and haven't used the last 4 years building wealth and saving.
Well, that's probably true, lol.
Yep, credit card debt is at an all time high. So are missed car payments. 6-7 million Americans are late on their mortgage payments. 9+ million are late on their rent payments.The_barBEARian said:Doc Holliday said:Which is 90% of all AmericansThe_barBEARian said:Doc Holliday said:
We're in a recession but the government has been giving the economy about $5 trillion every year since 2020 in borrowed money.
Prior to 2020 our government was injecting about $500 billion every year and that money wasn't taken from Taxes. Not swap and spit, it was new money that went to the money supply.
Today, we live in a completely artificial economy. This was carried out mostly by the Biden administration who was trying desperately to not have the bad effects of a recession. They borrowed absurd amounts of money and injected it and said "see it's fine". This is what created all the inflation btw.
Here are the options:
1.) If the government stops spending, the economy will retract and go into a MASSIVE recession.
2.) if the government continues to spend borrowed money, we will continue to increase inflation and compound the core issue more.
It will only feel like a "massive" recession to all the people who live beyond their means and haven't used the last 4 years building wealth and saving.
Well, that's probably true, lol.
Joblessness is rising. Salaries are lagging far behind inflation.
We need a recession and using tariffs to take the burden off the US and make other countries absorb the impact will help greatly. Everyone that's freaking out about wall street still hasn't accepted that main street is in a free fall.
Actually there are a number of laid off federal employees that will feel the negative effects of the recession. Many are responsible hard working individuals. I wholly support the reduction in government, but it will be painful for our country.The_barBEARian said:Doc Holliday said:
We're in a recession but the government has been giving the economy about $5 trillion every year since 2020 in borrowed money.
Prior to 2020 our government was injecting about $500 billion every year and that money wasn't taken from Taxes. Not swap and spit, it was new money that went to the money supply.
Today, we live in a completely artificial economy. This was carried out mostly by the Biden administration who was trying desperately to not have the bad effects of a recession. They borrowed absurd amounts of money and injected it and said "see it's fine". This is what created all the inflation btw.
Here are the options:
1.) If the government stops spending, the economy will retract and go into a MASSIVE recession.
2.) if the government continues to spend borrowed money, we will continue to increase inflation and compound the core issue more.
It will only feel like a "massive" recession to all the people who live beyond their means and haven't used the last 4 years building wealth and saving.
Guy Noir said:Actually there are a number of laid off federal employees that will feel the negative effects of the recession. Many are responsible hard working individuals. I wholly support the reduction in government, but it will be painful for our country.The_barBEARian said:Doc Holliday said:
We're in a recession but the government has been giving the economy about $5 trillion every year since 2020 in borrowed money.
Prior to 2020 our government was injecting about $500 billion every year and that money wasn't taken from Taxes. Not swap and spit, it was new money that went to the money supply.
Today, we live in a completely artificial economy. This was carried out mostly by the Biden administration who was trying desperately to not have the bad effects of a recession. They borrowed absurd amounts of money and injected it and said "see it's fine". This is what created all the inflation btw.
Here are the options:
1.) If the government stops spending, the economy will retract and go into a MASSIVE recession.
2.) if the government continues to spend borrowed money, we will continue to increase inflation and compound the core issue more.
It will only feel like a "massive" recession to all the people who live beyond their means and haven't used the last 4 years building wealth and saving.
Economic corrections are always painful. Considering how destructive and harmful fake president Biden was, this round of correction might be more painful. There are lots of parts to the economy that need huge repairs. That's not fond easily or quickly.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
Some economic good news:
More Trump Success: Core Consumer Prices Dip To Lowest Level In Almost 4 Years As Inflation Eases
https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-success-consumer-prices-lowest-level-in-almost-4-years-inflation
More Trump Success: Core Consumer Prices Dip To Lowest Level In Almost 4 Years As Inflation Eases
https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-success-consumer-prices-lowest-level-in-almost-4-years-inflation
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
Inflation just came in at 2.8% which is lower than expectations.
— Anthony Pompliano 🌪 (@APompliano) March 12, 2025
The real number is even lower.
The Fed should cut rates immediately.
Seems like a positive sign for the economy if people are still traveling in great numbers
Dallas-Fort Worth Airport expects record-breaking spring break travel, with more than 4.8M passengers pic.twitter.com/2af1e3L4yY
— Dallas Texas TV (@DallasTexasTV) March 12, 2025
Boomers living off of an inflated stock market, completely untethered from the real economy, for the last 15 years: pic.twitter.com/30e7tz2Eeu
— Ry (@ryjlocal) March 11, 2025
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About 70% of the population...The_barBEARian said:Doc Holliday said:
We're in a recession but the government has been giving the economy about $5 trillion every year since 2020 in borrowed money.
Prior to 2020 our government was injecting about $500 billion every year and that money wasn't taken from Taxes. Not swap and spit, it was new money that went to the money supply.
Today, we live in a completely artificial economy. This was carried out mostly by the Biden administration who was trying desperately to not have the bad effects of a recession. They borrowed absurd amounts of money and injected it and said "see it's fine". This is what created all the inflation btw.
Here are the options:
1.) If the government stops spending, the economy will retract and go into a MASSIVE recession.
2.) if the government continues to spend borrowed money, we will continue to increase inflation and compound the core issue more.
It will only feel like a "massive" recession to all the people who live beyond their means and haven't used the last 4 years building wealth and saving.
Not just people, Spring Break. College kids. How in the hell are they affording to fly to Spring Break? No more car trips, 6 to a car. Or 2 day bus trips from Wisconsin to FL. Now they fly...boognish_bear said:
Seems like a positive sign for the economy if people are still traveling in great numbersDallas-Fort Worth Airport expects record-breaking spring break travel, with more than 4.8M passengers pic.twitter.com/2af1e3L4yY
— Dallas Texas TV (@DallasTexasTV) March 12, 2025
Funny thing there, the guys dancing are working there. Look at their shirts, they are the wait staff. Boomers working and serving younger generations. So, it is pretty accurate.boognish_bear said:Boomers living off of an inflated stock market, completely untethered from the real economy, for the last 15 years: pic.twitter.com/30e7tz2Eeu
— Ry (@ryjlocal) March 11, 2025
FLBear5630 said:Not just people, Spring Break. College kids. How in the hell are they affording to fly to Spring Break? No more car trips, 6 to a car. Or 2 day bus trips from Wisconsin to FL. Now they fly...boognish_bear said:
Seems like a positive sign for the economy if people are still traveling in great numbersDallas-Fort Worth Airport expects record-breaking spring break travel, with more than 4.8M passengers pic.twitter.com/2af1e3L4yY
— Dallas Texas TV (@DallasTexasTV) March 12, 2025
You won't catch my kids at the airport. They are still doing the big caravan thing.