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boognish_bear
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KaiBear said:

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Tariff announcement today was received well by the markets…especially the bond market.


That is very surprising to me.

Hope it holds.


I was commenting with extremely sarcasm
Yeah, I just saw the DOW.

Monday is really going to be ugly.


Wait til Sunday afternoon "we came to an agreement" news drop.
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
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J.R. said:

KaiBear said:

trey3216 said:

KaiBear said:

trey3216 said:

Tariff announcement today was received well by the markets…especially the bond market.


That is very surprising to me.

Hope it holds.


I was commenting with extremely sarcasm
Yeah, I just saw the DOW.

Monday is really going to be ugly.
yup, tariffs are fantastic.
I really believe he is misusing tariffs, they are fine for behavior modification. But, as the source of income?

Wait, cue Whiterock? We did it in 1885, so...
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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boognish_bear said:



inflation is the name of the game.
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Waiting on the right wing zealots like OP to comment on how much the stock market lost Friday.
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J.R. said:

KaiBear said:

trey3216 said:

KaiBear said:

trey3216 said:

Tariff announcement today was received well by the markets…especially the bond market.


That is very surprising to me.

Hope it holds.


I was commenting with extremely sarcasm
Yeah, I just saw the DOW.

Monday is really going to be ugly.
yup, tariffs are fantastic.
There is no real choice.

Other presidents have been kicking this can down the road for 20 years at least.

But I don't want to look at my stocks for the next few months.
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You may have a point, to an extent, especially regarding the federal deficit. Few have the political will to address it aggressively, and from a wholistic approach, and we will pay a premium for one lack of action (except the rich).
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Libs and the never Trumpers: "Let's keep rotting the middle class, do things the old globalist way because it's been great for the very well off."

The economy will adapt to these taxes, it always does.

I suspect the tariffs will lower if Canada replaces its dictator with a conservative, and delivers on protection our borders.
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:





Chances of that post being accurate are not very high.
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D. C. Bear said:

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Chances of that post being accurate are not very high.
Maybe. Maybe not. It forces one to think about the possibilities. Also, we already know that the federal government is incredibly corrupt and the bureaucracy is largely out of control. It's very believable even if it might be exaggerated a tad.
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historian said:

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historian said:



Chances of that post being accurate are not very high.
Maybe. Maybe not. It forces one to think about the possibilities. Also, we already know that the federal government is incredibly corrupt and the bureaucracy is largely out of control. It's very believable even if it might be exaggerate a tad.
Agree. Musk is correct in the things he is pointing out. No codes to track spending?? Inexcusable.

My only concern has not changed. Get those making the decisions and giving the direction, not the poor middle to Junior mgt person caught in between a rock and a hard place.
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FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

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historian said:



Chances of that post being accurate are not very high.
Maybe. Maybe not. It forces one to think about the possibilities. Also, we already know that the federal government is incredibly corrupt and the bureaucracy is largely out of control. It's very believable even if it might be exaggerate a tad.
Agree. Musk is correct in the things he is pointing out. No codes to track spending?? Inexcusable.

My only concern has not changed. Get those making the decisions and giving the direction, not the poor middle to Junior mgt person caught in between a rock and a hard place.

Get rid of anyone doing unnecessary work, regardless of level of title. Government employment should not be a handout or paying people to do nothing of value. It was an important step making them all go to the office every day. "Working from home" became a lie for too many of them and an excuse for laziness and inefficiency. It's a waste of our tax dollars.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

D. C. Bear said:

historian said:



Chances of that post being accurate are not very high.
Maybe. Maybe not. It forces one to think about the possibilities. Also, we already know that the federal government is incredibly corrupt and the bureaucracy is largely out of control. It's very believable even if it might be exaggerate a tad.
Agree. Musk is correct in the things he is pointing out. No codes to track spending?? Inexcusable.

My only concern has not changed. Get those making the decisions and giving the direction, not the poor middle to Junior mgt person caught in between a rock and a hard place.

Get rid of anyone doing unnecessary work, regardless of level of title. Government employment should not be a handout or paying people to do nothing of value. It was an important step making them all go to the office every day. "Working from home" became a lie for too many of them and an excuse for laziness and inefficiency. It's a waste of our tax dollars.
You are mixing issues. If a job is obsolete or redundant, either buy them out or reassign and do away with the position. Happens everyday in both public and private.

Working from home and NOT working is another issue, that is an HR performance issue, not a job class and to be held against everyone working from home. For example, Patent Attorneys work from home and have for decades. Whether they are working from home or in an office does not impact their ability to review patent applications. VA Nurse Mgr, sort of hard to do from home and if they are doing days way it is difficult to do off-site. Believe it or not, in the private sector I know Nurse Mgrs that work 2 days from home. Drives my wife nuts. Working from home in itself is not a problem, abuse and allowing jobs that require on-site to it because everyone else can is a problem. That is where the "fairness" plays into the equation, as well.

Destroying or burning out all levels of flexibility and ability to lower overhead in the US Govt function is stupid if the reason is mismanagement of previous administrations.
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No. They are the same issue. Oftentimes, working from home means not working at all or barely working. Taxpayers are still paying some people far too much money to do nothing.

Regardless of what government workers do, how much they do, or where they do it if it's not serving the public interest they need to go. Let them find a real job going honest work for which they will be held accountable. Just like everyone else.

Nobody has a right to someone else's money.
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historian said:

No. They are the same issue. Oftentimes, working from home means not working at all or barely working. Taxpayers are still paying some people far too much money to do nothing.

Regardless of what government workers do, how much they do, or where they do it if it's not serving the public interest they need to go. Let them find a real job going honest work for which they will be held accountable. Just like everyone else.

Nobody has a right to someone else's money.
Not everyone that works from home abuses it. You are talking abuse, not a job description issue. You are mixing two different things, again. It is NOT absolute. Those that abuse get punished, those that do their job and don't abuse it get left alone. That is basic HR and fairness. Geez, you say "often times" and "far too often". That means not always. You are generalizing and assuming everyone is guilty based on bad actors. In any other area you would say that is terrible, you have rights.

Real work like standing in front of a classroom? Getting paid for teaching how many classes a week? What type of University do you work? How much public money goes to that school?
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Of course it's not absolute. Nothing in human society is. And there are always exceptions. But the exceptions prove the rule.

Far too much corruption and waste has been uncovered in the past few weeks and we know there is a lot more.
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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Not enough
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historian said:

Of course it's not absolute. Nothing in human society is. And there are always exceptions. But the exceptions prove the rule.

Far too much corruption and waste has been uncovered in the past few weeks and we know there is a lot more.


You work at a University or High School? If I remember it was a University, I may be wrong. Tenure? You hooked up to the Federal teat?
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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Interesting. Instead of finding the multiple areas you could agree on, you go trying to create division with someone who at least agrees with the conservative agenda. I take issue with some of his past comments, and I am not as conservative; however, I don't go trying to create division when we at least have some common ground. What's your angle here?
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BUDOS said:

Interesting. Instead of finding the multiple areas you could agree on, you go trying to create division with someone who at least agrees with the conservative agenda. I take issue with some of his past comments, and I am not as conservative; however, I don't go trying to create division when we at least have some common ground. What's your angle here?


Angle? It is a discussion board. You want to discuss the issues of the day or a circle jerk? If you are looking for rah-rahing what we all agree on my question to you is the same.Are you looking for someone to stroke your ego and tell you how right you are? To what end?

Give me discussing facts over getting stroked. I may not agree with some on here about everything, but I respect their opinions and enjoy hearing their reasons.

So what am I dividing?
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It's just that you often make some very good points and ask good questions, only to lose their effect, if not credibility by the harsh tone you sometimes take. I have no desire to get into it with you. It's pretty obvious I'd lose. However, you are correct, it is your prerogative to state your opinion in whatever tone and language you choose.
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BUDOS said:

It's just that you often make some very good points and ask good questions, only to lose their effect, if not credibility by the harsh tone you sometimes take. I have no desire to get into it with you. It's pretty obvious I'd lose. However, you are correct, it is your prerogative to state your opinion in whatever tone and language you choose.


Actually I prefer not to argue or get into a who can insult each other more. (Although there are some pretty funny shots on this board )

This BU board seems very combative. I grew up in NYC, was lower enlisted and learned to hit hard or you become a target. My apologies if I came across to harsh. If I do it, it's because I think the other party wants to.

I don't believe in conspiracies, massive organized fraud or that everything in government is a grift. Incompetent, lazy or careless definitely, but not the organized grift. I think they are uncovering more laziness and carelessness than malicious fraud. The Deep State Feds I have met are more interested in retiring than agendas. We need to fix it, no doubt but I don't think everything is as slam dunk as the MAGA crowd.
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Appreciate your comments, which also indicates we agree on more than we may disagree.
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BUDOS said:

Appreciate your comments, which also indicates we agree on more than we may disagree.
Cool. Please do not take any comments personally. Some of the people I bust on the most I respect their opinions the most. I treat this site like messing around with a big group at a bar, give some ****, take some **** and discuss stuff we have no control over.

I do appreciate your comments.
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FLBear5630 said:

BUDOS said:

Appreciate your comments, which also indicates we agree on more than we may disagree.
Cool. Please do not take any comments personally. Some of the people I bust on the most I respect their opinions the most. I treat this site like messing around with a big group at a bar, give some ****, take some **** and discuss stuff we have no control over.

I do appreciate your comments.


Hear, hear. This is how everyone should take this board. Give it, take it. Have fun too.
Life too short to get all worked up over internet talk.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

BUDOS said:

Appreciate your comments, which also indicates we agree on more than we may disagree.
Cool. Please do not take any comments personally. Some of the people I bust on the most I respect their opinions the most. I treat this site like messing around with a big group at a bar, give some ****, take some **** and discuss stuff we have no control over.

I do appreciate your comments.


Hear, hear. This is how everyone should take this board. Give it, take it. Have fun too.
Life too short to get all worked up over internet talk.
What is really funny, compared to the rest of the world everyone on here is a screaming Conservative. We are talking degrees, usually on specific issues.
 
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