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In reply to historian • 6:22p, 8/25/26
historian said:
You're probably correct, we will probably never get rid of the debt but we must at least try. Only once in our history has the US been debt free (about 200 years ago) and the vast majority of our $40 trillion in national debt is from the past 25 years.


Only way is going to be a cash flow model we are not going to lump sum pay or cut spending. Increase revenue and manage cost if money.

You have a better way that can actually be implemented?
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 7:46p, 8/25/26
FLBear5630 said:
historian said:
You're probably correct, we will probably never get rid of the debt but we must at least try. Only once in our history has the US been debt free (about 200 years ago) and the vast majority of our $40 trillion in national debt is from the past 25 years.


Only way is going to be a cash flow model we are not going to lump sum pay or cut spending. Increase revenue and manage cost if money.

You have a better way that can actually be implemented?

I agree that we need a plan to handle the debt. That said, there is no chance whatsoever, that career politicians will support any plan that puts their office at risk.

There is good news of a sort, though. First is that pretty much every major nation has a debt problem, so world leaders will not be inclined to push aggressively against other nations on their rivals. The second is that the US economy is diversified and relatively healthy enough to handle a lot of rough years without defaulting, which is the major tripwire risk here.

The real danger is the growing number of economic morons, who actually believe and promote some very dangerous idiocies, a la AOC's notion of Monetary policy or the lunacy of the current NYC mayor. If one of their ilk gets into the Oval Office, the worst becomes very possible.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 8:19p, 8/25/26
I agree, but it is both sides. Bessent has us in some aggressive high risk situations. I do not trust him. I miss Munchen
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 8:25p, 8/25/26
FLBear5630 said:
I agree, but it is both sides. Bessent has us in some aggressive high risk situations. I do not trust him. I miss Munchen

It's a great town if you like beer.
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10:22p, 8/25/26
I miss Munchen, Berlin, Prague, and Wien. Those are my favorite places in Europe although I have not been in a long time.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 12:44a, 8/26/26
Sam Lowry said:
FLBear5630 said:
I agree, but it is both sides. Bessent has us in some aggressive high risk situations. I do not trust him. I miss Munchen

It's a great town if you like beer.

and Swine Knuckle!
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In reply to J.R. • 1:10a, 8/26/26
J.R. said:
Sam Lowry said:
FLBear5630 said:
I agree, but it is both sides. Bessent has us in some aggressive high risk situations. I do not trust him. I miss Munchen

It's a great town if you like beer.

and Swine Knuckle!

Didn't know about that. Am I sorry I missed it?
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6:36a, 8/26/26
Uh oh

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11:00a, 8/28/26
Rhat Rho..Chairman Warsh (Piggy's pick) said we got a little inflation problem. Nah?
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In reply to J.R. • 12:06p, 8/28/26
J.R. said:
Rhat Rho..Chairman Warsh (Piggy's pick) said we got a little inflation problem. Nah?

"We are the hottest country in the world! Nobody has ever seen anything like it!"
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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In reply to J.R. • 1:38p, 8/28/26
J.R. said:
Sam Lowry said:
FLBear5630 said:
I agree, but it is both sides. Bessent has us in some aggressive high risk situations. I do not trust him. I miss Munchen

It's a great town if you like beer.

and Swine Knuckle!

Swine Knuckle in Cologne, kolsch beer along the river in the shadow of the Cathedral.... Now you are talking

Let's stay consistent Koln...
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 1:52p, 8/28/26
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
Sam Lowry said:
FLBear5630 said:
I agree, but it is both sides. Bessent has us in some aggressive high risk situations. I do not trust him. I miss Munchen

It's a great town if you like beer.

and Swine Knuckle!

Swine Knuckle in Cologne, kolsch beer along the river in the shadow of the Cathedral.... Now you are talking

Let's stay consistent Koln...

now we are talking crackling swine knuckle with a nice Kolsch is indeed superb !
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In reply to J.R. • 3:18p, 8/28/26
It's been here you imbecile
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In reply to Danielsjackson114 • 4:01p, 8/28/26
Danielsjackson114 said:
It's been here you imbecile

you don't even know what we are talking about. Not getting out of your county and the Meth Stills you think we are referring to pork skins at your local gas station where your Daddy gets his Marlboro Reds and his 12 pack! You are definately a culinary genius. Enjoy your lunchables in your Buzz Light Year lunch box.
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In reply to J.R. • 5:06p, 8/28/26
J.R. said:
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
Sam Lowry said:
FLBear5630 said:
I agree, but it is both sides. Bessent has us in some aggressive high risk situations. I do not trust him. I miss Munchen

It's a great town if you like beer.

and Swine Knuckle!

Swine Knuckle in Cologne, kolsch beer along the river in the shadow of the Cathedral.... Now you are talking

Let's stay consistent Koln...

now we are talking crackling swine knuckle with a nice Kolsch is indeed superb !

Cologne is one of my favorite cities... I know it is a bit liberal for this crowd, but the Cathedral, Kolsch, and the waitresses that bring you beer until you say stop. How can you not love it? I am going back in November.

Try Mainz some time, outside Frankfurt on the Rhine. The Hilton on the River is one of my favorites...
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In reply to J.R. • 5:13p, 8/28/26
J.R. said:
Danielsjackson114 said:
It's been here you imbecile

you don't even know what we are talking about. Not getting out of your county and the Meth Stills you think we are referring to pork skins at your local gas station where your Daddy gets his Marlboro Reds and his 12 pack! You are definately a culinary genius. Enjoy your lunchables in your Buzz Light Year lunch box.

You know, a culinary thread would be worth it. Cooked my way through my first two years of college, which is why it took 4 years...
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 7:29a, 8/29/26
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
Sam Lowry said:
FLBear5630 said:
I agree, but it is both sides. Bessent has us in some aggressive high risk situations. I do not trust him. I miss Munchen

It's a great town if you like beer.

and Swine Knuckle!

Swine Knuckle in Cologne, kolsch beer along the river in the shadow of the Cathedral.... Now you are talking

Let's stay consistent Koln...

now we are talking crackling swine knuckle with a nice Kolsch is indeed superb !

Cologne is one of my favorite cities... I know it is a bit liberal for this crowd, but the Cathedral, Kolsch, and the waitresses that bring you beer until you say stop. How can you not love it? I am going back in November.

Try Mainz some time, outside Frankfurt on the Rhine. The Hilton on the River is one of my favorites...

Been to Mainz and Baden Baden. The Mosel is gorgeous for some world class Riesling!
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In reply to J.R. • 7:45a, 8/29/26
Cochem is another beautiful town on the Mosel with great Riesling.
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In reply to J.R. • 8:56a, 8/29/26
J.R. said:
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
Sam Lowry said:
FLBear5630 said:
I agree, but it is both sides. Bessent has us in some aggressive high risk situations. I do not trust him. I miss Munchen

It's a great town if you like beer.

and Swine Knuckle!

Swine Knuckle in Cologne, kolsch beer along the river in the shadow of the Cathedral.... Now you are talking

Let's stay consistent Koln...

now we are talking crackling swine knuckle with a nice Kolsch is indeed superb !

Cologne is one of my favorite cities... I know it is a bit liberal for this crowd, but the Cathedral, Kolsch, and the waitresses that bring you beer until you say stop. How can you not love it? I am going back in November.

Try Mainz some time, outside Frankfurt on the Rhine. The Hilton on the River is one of my favorites...

Been to Mainz and Baden Baden. The Mosel is gorgeous for some world class Riesling!

Doing a Rhine cruise for my 38th wedding anniversary. Wife is a huge Reisling fan. Only excursions are the wine tasting, I can't do that on my own...
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In reply to historian • 8:58a, 8/29/26
historian said:
Cochem is another beautiful town on the Mosel with great Riesling.

Went to Mainz at the Hilton on the River, couldn't figure out what wine my wife would like. Bartender gave me full glass samples of three he liked. No charge, they were all local and he viewed it as marketing. He was shocked I tipped him, I had to talk him into taking it. Told him it was for his wine expertise, he liked that. The Hilton's in Europe are a different level than the US...
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9:38a, 8/29/26
Trump promises new deregulation for farmers and ranchers, allowing them to process their own food, breaking meat packing "cartels"

https://notthebee.com/article/trump-signs-order-allowing-farmers-and-ranchers-to-process-their-own-food-breaking-meat-packing-cartels
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9:53a, 8/29/26
Stephen Miller Drops a Truth Bomb About Illegal Aliens That Should Be in EVERY Campaign Ad

https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/2026/08/29/stephen-miller-drops-a-truth-bomb-about-illegal-aliens-that-should-be-in-every-campaign-ad-n2431790
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In reply to historian • 11:24a, 8/29/26
historian said:
Trump promises new deregulation for farmers and ranchers, allowing them to process their own food, breaking meat packing "cartels"

https://notthebee.com/article/trump-signs-order-allowing-farmers-and-ranchers-to-process-their-own-food-breaking-meat-packing-cartels

Glad DOGE didn't cut food inspection infrastructure with all these new sources. Oh wait...
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In reply to historian • 1:23p, 8/29/26
historian said:
Stephen Miller Drops a Truth Bomb About Illegal Aliens That Should Be in EVERY Campaign Ad

https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/2026/08/29/stephen-miller-drops-a-truth-bomb-about-illegal-aliens-that-should-be-in-every-campaign-ad-n2431790

Miller is having fun at your expense. He's evidently become bored with everyday lying and is challenging himself to reach new heights of absurdity.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 1:45p, 8/29/26
sounds a lot like you tbh
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 7:02p, 8/29/26
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
Sam Lowry said:
FLBear5630 said:
I agree, but it is both sides. Bessent has us in some aggressive high risk situations. I do not trust him. I miss Munchen

It's a great town if you like beer.

and Swine Knuckle!

Swine Knuckle in Cologne, kolsch beer along the river in the shadow of the Cathedral.... Now you are talking

Let's stay consistent Koln...

now we are talking crackling swine knuckle with a nice Kolsch is indeed superb !

Cologne is one of my favorite cities... I know it is a bit liberal for this crowd, but the Cathedral, Kolsch, and the waitresses that bring you beer until you say stop. How can you not love it? I am going back in November.

Try Mainz some time, outside Frankfurt on the Rhine. The Hilton on the River is one of my favorites...

Been to Mainz and Baden Baden. The Mosel is gorgeous for some world class Riesling!

Doing a Rhine cruise for my 38th wedding anniversary. Wife is a huge Reisling fan. Only excursions are the wine tasting, I can't do that on my own...

awesomeness! I'm sure she knows , the "Trocken" which means dry. A hint of sweetness. Best food wine , IMO
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 10:02p, 8/29/26
I hope both of you have a wonderful vacation. God bless and safe travels.
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In reply to historian • 8:40a, 8/30/26
historian said:
I hope both of you have a wonderful vacation. God bless and safe travels.

Thank you. Appreciate it. Looking forward to it.

Just a side note, I do appreciate you and those that we can banter on different issues without being personal or disliking. Maybe it was the groups I grew up with in NY or the military, but we rarely agreed on things and still got along. A missing trait now days. Tip of the cap to you and others that are good people, but we disagree on some things.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 8:41a, 8/30/26
Likewise. I see no reason anyone here cannot be civil and respectful.
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8:45a, 8/30/26
Florida becomes first state to ban welfare for tattoos, video games, theme parks, other "non-essential" goods

https://notthebee.com/article/florida-becomes-first-state-to-ban-welfare-for-tattoos-video-games-theme-parks-other-non-essential-goods

This is on top of all the fraud, most of which still needs to be exposed. To be honest, this kind of waste further illustrates how many govt programs need to be greatly curtailed or eliminated completely. Almost all of them.

I look forward to Texas doing the same thing.
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In reply to J.R. • 8:52a, 8/30/26
J.R. said:
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
Sam Lowry said:
FLBear5630 said:
I agree, but it is both sides. Bessent has us in some aggressive high risk situations. I do not trust him. I miss Munchen

It's a great town if you like beer.

and Swine Knuckle!

Swine Knuckle in Cologne, kolsch beer along the river in the shadow of the Cathedral.... Now you are talking

Let's stay consistent Koln...

now we are talking crackling swine knuckle with a nice Kolsch is indeed superb !

Cologne is one of my favorite cities... I know it is a bit liberal for this crowd, but the Cathedral, Kolsch, and the waitresses that bring you beer until you say stop. How can you not love it? I am going back in November.

Try Mainz some time, outside Frankfurt on the Rhine. The Hilton on the River is one of my favorites...

Been to Mainz and Baden Baden. The Mosel is gorgeous for some world class Riesling!

Doing a Rhine cruise for my 38th wedding anniversary. Wife is a huge Reisling fan. Only excursions are the wine tasting, I can't do that on my own...

awesomeness! I'm sure she knows , the "Trocken" which means dry. A hint of sweetness. Best food wine , IMO

I am a huge fan of that region. She is a Sptlese fan, I like the Mosel wines because of the minerality that balances the sweetness. She like sweet...


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Op-ed: Palmer Luckey became America's voice over the weekend by fighting anyone who defends hiring foreigners over our countrymen

https://notthebee.com/takes/palmer-lucky-just-became-the-best-ceo-in-america-by-fighting-everyone-who-defends-hiring-foreigners-over-our-countrymen-
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