Federal Judge blocks Trump from deporting illegal alien gang members

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Doc Holliday
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He was in Star Trek I think...



Lol

I grew up watching TNG with my Dad as a kid. Love that show!
Married A Horn
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Just ignore the judges already. They overwhelmed us with problems and expect us to go through excruciatingly lengthy red tape to undo even a little of it. HARD. PASS.

Will mistakes be made? You betcha. But this is the only path. Last step: throw the politicians that broke laws into jail. Legit criminals...not like the bs they tried with Trump.
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I say Sam and the left wing judge need to go down to central America and conduct a hearing with the gang bangers.
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BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.
Oldbear83
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Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.
Sam demands that district judges be treated as superior to the elected President of the United States.
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Robert Wilson said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
I can't get through the pay wall. Gov't claims he was a gang member. He says he's not.

Other court documents show an immigration judge ordered Abrego-Garcia to be removed from the U.S. back in April 2019 over his alleged gang ties.

Alleged gang member arrested in Baltimore deported to El Salvadoran prison

In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
"Whoops! We let in 8M people. No clue who most of them are or what they're doing" is fine.

But God forbid you deport one guy who arguably only *used* to be a gangster.

This can't be perfectly done. Won't be. And can't be micromanaged one by one by district court judges. DOJ could never get the manpower.

It's simply not acceptable to say "we made such a huge fking mess that it's impossible for you to clean it up." The judiciary will have to adjust to the world as it is, which is what the judiciary tends towards over time anyway.
No one is saying that. There are legal, expeditious means of deporting gangsters back to their own countries. Trump is deporting people who arguably were never gangsters at all, sending them to be tortured in squalid prison camps, and violating the law in a way that endangers all of our liberties. That's a deliberate choice on his part.
Oldbear83
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Liar.

Sam Lowry
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Oldbear83 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.
Sam demands that district judges be treated as superior to the elected President of the United States.
I see that you've dutifully memorized your propaganda points.
Oldbear83
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Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.
Sam demands that district judges be treated as superior to the elected President of the United States.
I see that you've dutifully memorized your propaganda points.
No Sam, that's your team doing the brain-washing.

I just observe that you have never complained about millions of gang members entering the US, all the drugs pouring in, all the fraud and money funneling already discovered.

Nope, your attitude is pure Hunter.

This won't end well for your side.
Sam Lowry
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Oldbear83 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.
Sam demands that district judges be treated as superior to the elected President of the United States.
I see that you've dutifully memorized your propaganda points.
No Sam, that's your team doing the brain-washing.

I just observe that you have never complained about millions of gang members entering the US, all the drugs pouring in, all the fraud and money funneling already discovered.

Nope, your attitude is pure Hunter.

This won't end well for your side.
Mass xenophobic panic rarely ends well for anyone, particularly not those of us who value human decency and the rule of law.
GrowlTowel
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Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.


Odd, where were you when we weren't following the law to allow 10 million illegals into the country?

Why the concern all of a sudden?
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.
Sam demands that district judges be treated as superior to the elected President of the United States.
I see that you've dutifully memorized your propaganda points.


Mirror time?
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
LIB,MR BEARS
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Supports the policy of the pedo party and speaks of human decency. What a joke Sam had become
Oldbear83
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To recall the immortal words of Mr. Hand in 'Fast Times at Ridgemont High'

are you on drugs?

Not much else would explain a post that far from Reality.
Oldbear83
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For those scoring at home, the Democrats have gone from taking the 20 side on 80/20 issues, to taking the 10 side on 90/10 issues, and now the 5 side on 95/5 issues.

Next up, Democrats will protest puppies and birthday cake.
Sam Lowry
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GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.


Odd, where were you when we weren't following the law to allow 10 million illegals into the country?

Why the concern all of a sudden?
Among other things, I was here supporting the border wall and debunking the myth that illegals are notably law-abiding. Not that it really matters to you.
Assassin
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Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when they didn't follow the law.
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BearFan33
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Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.


Cry me a river sam

We wouldn't have these problems if Biden didn't illegally let in 10 million people

You expect perfection from the trump administration when the government has shown it can't do anything correctly but waste and steal taxpayer money.
Assassin
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BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.


Cry me a river sam

We wouldn't have these problems if Biden didn't illegally let in 10 million people

You expect perfection from the trump administration when the government has shown it can't do anything correctly but waste and steal taxpayer money.
Biden was actually flying them in, setting them up with full SS benefits, all sorts of sfuff
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Sam Lowry
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BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.


Cry me a river sam

We wouldn't have these problems if Biden didn't illegally let in 10 million people

You expect perfection from the trump administration when the government has shown it can't do anything correctly but waste and steal taxpayer money.
Cry me a river yourself. Nobody here likes Biden. Being butt-hurt over his policies doesn't give you the right to scapegoat potentially innocent people. Doing so endangers you, me, and all of us.

Y'all just need to deal with your emotions and let the courts do their job. They can handle it.
Oldbear83
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Sam: "Nobody here likes Biden"

Says the guy who clearly preferred Biden over Trump from his posts.
Sam Lowry
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Oldbear83 said:

Sam: "Nobody here likes Biden"

Says the guy who clearly preferred Biden over Trump from his posts.
Weird comment.
KaiBear
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Assassin said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.


Cry me a river sam

We wouldn't have these problems if Biden didn't illegally let in 10 million people

You expect perfection from the trump administration when the government has shown it can't do anything correctly but waste and steal taxpayer money.
Biden was actually flying them in, setting them up with full SS benefits, all sorts of sfuff


It's almost unbelievable that any president would willfully encourage and distribute a multi million wave of illegals into our country.

Yet I have never once heard any of our resident Dems condemn it.
Robert Wilson
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Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
I can't get through the pay wall. Gov't claims he was a gang member. He says he's not.

Other court documents show an immigration judge ordered Abrego-Garcia to be removed from the U.S. back in April 2019 over his alleged gang ties.

Alleged gang member arrested in Baltimore deported to El Salvadoran prison

In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
"Whoops! We let in 8M people. No clue who most of them are or what they're doing" is fine.

But God forbid you deport one guy who arguably only *used* to be a gangster.

This can't be perfectly done. Won't be. And can't be micromanaged one by one by district court judges. DOJ could never get the manpower.

It's simply not acceptable to say "we made such a huge fking mess that it's impossible for you to clean it up." The judiciary will have to adjust to the world as it is, which is what the judiciary tends towards over time anyway.
No one is saying that. There are legal, expeditious means of deporting gangsters back to their own countries. Trump is deporting people who arguably were never gangsters at all, sending them to be tortured in squalid prison camps, and violating the law in a way that endangers all of our liberties. That's a deliberate choice on his part.


Please expound. What are these expeditious means? And how is Trump violating them?
BearFan33
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Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.


Cry me a river sam

We wouldn't have these problems if Biden didn't illegally let in 10 million people

You expect perfection from the trump administration when the government has shown it can't do anything correctly but waste and steal taxpayer money.
Cry me a river yourself. Nobody here likes Biden. Being butt-hurt over his policies doesn't give you the right to scapegoat potentially innocent people. Doing so endangers you, me, and all of us.

Y'all just need to deal with your emotions and let the courts do their job. They can handle it.
The courts are putting us (US citizens) in actual danger.
ScottS
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Biden was pooping in his Depend diaper and Sam was loving it.
Assassin
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Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.


Cry me a river sam

We wouldn't have these problems if Biden didn't illegally let in 10 million people

You expect perfection from the trump administration when the government has shown it can't do anything correctly but waste and steal taxpayer money.
Cry me a river yourself. Nobody here likes Biden. Being butt-hurt over his policies doesn't give you the right to scapegoat potentially innocent people. Doing so endangers you, me, and all of us.

Y'all just need to deal with your emotions and let the courts do their job. They can handle it.
How is this guy an innocent? Court documents which I posted earlier prove he is a member of MS 13. And he is illegally in the country.
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All of these individuals broke our laws to enter our country, thus disrespecting our country as their first act. I am quite certain all or nearly all of them will be gang members or dangerous criminals who we all should want and be glad are out of our country for good. Many lives and heartaches to innocent American citizens will be saved. Round them all up and get them out. Send the message that you come in legally or we will find you and deport you.

And unless you are in favor of judicial tyranny, these activist district judges must be constrained. The country cannot have a district judge assume Presidential power, overriding the will of the people. These nationwide injunctions never used to occur. But look up how many times in Trump's first term it happened and how totally out of control it is at the beginning of his second term. It is the left's fall back position since they have lost the Presidency and the House and Senate and Supreme Court. They resort to judge shopping at the district court level resulting in injunction after injunction against every policy President Trump initiates, slowing or stopping his governing mandate.
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Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
I can't get through the pay wall. Gov't claims he was a gang member. He says he's not.

Other court documents show an immigration judge ordered Abrego-Garcia to be removed from the U.S. back in April 2019 over his alleged gang ties.

Alleged gang member arrested in Baltimore deported to El Salvadoran prison

In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
"Whoops! We let in 8M people. No clue who most of them are or what they're doing" is fine.

But God forbid you deport one guy who arguably only *used* to be a gangster.

This can't be perfectly done. Won't be. And can't be micromanaged one by one by district court judges. DOJ could never get the manpower.

It's simply not acceptable to say "we made such a huge fking mess that it's impossible for you to clean it up." The judiciary will have to adjust to the world as it is, which is what the judiciary tends towards over time anyway.
No one is saying that. There are legal, expeditious means of deporting gangsters back to their own countries. Trump is deporting people who arguably were never gangsters at all, sending them to be tortured in squalid prison camps, and violating the law in a way that endangers all of our liberties. That's a deliberate choice on his part.


Please expound. What are these expeditious means? And how is Trump violating them?
Any noncitizen lawfully deemed removable can be deported under the INA. The TRO doesn't stop Trump from doing this. It doesn't even require the government to stop arresting people or to release anyone who's been arrested. It only enjoins removal on the sole basis of the Proclamation under the AEA.
Sam Lowry
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BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.


Cry me a river sam

We wouldn't have these problems if Biden didn't illegally let in 10 million people

You expect perfection from the trump administration when the government has shown it can't do anything correctly but waste and steal taxpayer money.
Cry me a river yourself. Nobody here likes Biden. Being butt-hurt over his policies doesn't give you the right to scapegoat potentially innocent people. Doing so endangers you, me, and all of us.

Y'all just need to deal with your emotions and let the courts do their job. They can handle it.
The courts are putting us (US citizens) in actual danger.
A temporary order while the accused are in custody isn't endangering anyone.
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Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.


Cry me a river sam

We wouldn't have these problems if Biden didn't illegally let in 10 million people

You expect perfection from the trump administration when the government has shown it can't do anything correctly but waste and steal taxpayer money.
Cry me a river yourself. Nobody here likes Biden. Being butt-hurt over his policies doesn't give you the right to scapegoat potentially innocent people. Doing so endangers you, me, and all of us.

Y'all just need to deal with your emotions and let the courts do their job. They can handle it.
How is this guy an innocent? Court documents which I posted earlier prove he is a member of MS 13. And he is illegally in the country.
If the government accused you of being a gang member and denied your request for bond, would you say they had proven their case against you? No need for trial, just proceed to sentencing?
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Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.


Cry me a river sam

We wouldn't have these problems if Biden didn't illegally let in 10 million people

You expect perfection from the trump administration when the government has shown it can't do anything correctly but waste and steal taxpayer money.
Cry me a river yourself. Nobody here likes Biden. Being butt-hurt over his policies doesn't give you the right to scapegoat potentially innocent people. Doing so endangers you, me, and all of us.

Y'all just need to deal with your emotions and let the courts do their job. They can handle it.
The courts are putting us (US citizens) in actual danger.
A temporary order while the accused are in custody isn't endangering anyone.
except Democrats have this way of putting them back on the street, even if it's child rape or attempted murder.
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Sam Lowry said:

Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam Lowry said:

The Trump administration deported a man to El Salvador in what it calls an administrative error and isn't able to bring him back, immigration officials said in court filings.

Last month, ICE agents arrested Abrego Garcia, alleging he was a member of the gang MS-13. Abrego Garcia, who lived in Maryland with his wife and child, both U.S. citizens, denies any gang affiliation. Abrego Garcia hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime.

Abrego-Garcia is being held in El Salvador's notorious Terrorism Confinement Center, known as Cecot.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/ice-deportation-maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-8bee52f5?mod=e2fb
In any case when millions of people come into the country illegally and there are efforts to remove them, some mistakes are going to be made.
Especially when we don't follow the law.


Cry me a river sam

We wouldn't have these problems if Biden didn't illegally let in 10 million people

You expect perfection from the trump administration when the government has shown it can't do anything correctly but waste and steal taxpayer money.
Cry me a river yourself. Nobody here likes Biden. Being butt-hurt over his policies doesn't give you the right to scapegoat potentially innocent people. Doing so endangers you, me, and all of us.

Y'all just need to deal with your emotions and let the courts do their job. They can handle it.
How is this guy an innocent? Court documents which I posted earlier prove he is a member of MS 13. And he is illegally in the country.
If the government accused you of being a gang member and denied your request for bond, would you say they had proven their case against you? No need for trial, just proceed to sentencing?
This guy had several years to prove he was not MS13. He declined
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gtownbear said:

All of these individuals broke our laws to enter our country, thus disrespecting our country as their first act. I am quite certain all or nearly all of them will be gang members or dangerous criminals who we all should want and be glad are out of our country for good. Many lives and heartaches to innocent American citizens will be saved. Round them all up and get them out. Send the message that you come in legally or we will find you and deport you.

And unless you are in favor of judicial tyranny, these activist district judges must be constrained. The country cannot have a district judge assume Presidential power, overriding the will of the people. These nationwide injunctions never used to occur. But look up how many times in Trump's first term it happened and how totally out of control it is at the beginning of his second term. It is the left's fall back position since they have lost the Presidency and the House and Senate and Supreme Court. They resort to judge shopping at the district court level resulting in injunction after injunction against every policy President Trump initiates, slowing or stopping his governing mandate.
Trump does at least as much judge-shopping or forum-shopping as anyone else. And the TROs and injunctions against him are coming from a diverse group of judges, both Republican and Democrat. Judges should follow the law, not the "will of the people."
 
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