Sam Lowry said:
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Support for your assertion that Obama deportations were done without due process?
Again, because of the second grade level you're displaying, this is not about one individual.
I would assume he used warrants from Administrative Judges with deportation orders, and other pertinent laws like those caught just entering the country and were allowed to be removed and other means. One thing I am sure of is there were not three million civil trials for all of those Obama removed. The left just never complained because it was a democrat who did the removing rather than President Trump. When the media and the leftist groups whine and complain about an issue constantly in mass, it can bring real focus to something that otherwise would not be there, would you not agree.
As to the constant due process mantra I would ask about the January 6 defendants who the FBI spent an insane amount of time studying tens of thousands of hours of video to hunt down anyone at the Capital that day, and the Justice Department would bundle the infractions to increase jail time to years over minor misdemeanors in many cases. Furthermore, they denied many decent folks their civil rights and "due process" by keeping them in jail for up to two years awaiting trial in the seedy Washington D.C. jails. I don't recall any of you that complain about the unfair treatment of illegals who broke into the United States saying one thing about the unreasonable denial of those January 6 protesters due process rights. And they are American Citizens. Or did I miss it somehow?
The pardoned violent insurrectionists received due process. If it helps I'll give a short layman's version of due process: notice and an opportunity to be heard.
I am absolutely befuddled by your objection to exactly how law enforcement and prosecution works. Hours of investigative work followed by charges. Bundling infractions? Yeah, that's called a charging instrument and such bundling happens on a daily basis in every DA's office in the country.
https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/an-egregious-denial-of-due-process-for-jan-6-protesters/
Nothing biased about this, just a reporter who doesn't understand how our legal system works.
To address just one obvious bull**** claim: Defendant X didn't get most of the 41,000 hours of video. Oh noes.
Defendant X doesn't appear in all of that footage. EZ
Will some get reversals or remands? Probably some. I mean there's a thousand plus.
But we'll never know because the guy that asked for the violence pardoned the violent.
And the corrupt.
Anyone with $/influence/MAGA leanings. Sad!
I would remind you that the guy you say asked for the violence and pardoned the violent asked for everyone to go "peacefully" to the Capital and protest and make their voices heard. And again numerous protesters on January 6 were arrested and kept in jail, many for periods in solitary confinement, for up to two years without trial and denied bail. They were saved by President Trump's second election and his pardons realizing how many of them were overcharged for misdemeanors while denied rights most are afforded without prior criminal records.
Are you seriously crying about criminal rights?
No I am talking about numerous Americans at the Capital on January 6 having all types of incidental charges added to misdemeanors to lengthen their potential sentences or in most cases get them to plead guilty rather than go to trial. And while all this was going on for years, many of them were denied bail so were held in the rotten D.C. jails, some in solitary confinement. So in fact these American Citizens had their civil rights taken away from them during this time due to the abuse of power by Attorney General Merrick Garland. That is what was taking place and many activist judges were culpable in agreeing with the prosecutors who said these folks were a danger to society and should remain in jail until trial even though most had no criminal record.
Now those are the facts.
Those are not facts. Misdemeanor defendants were not held for years or in solitary confinement.
I refer you Sam to the link below. I will look up some others as the courts threw out some of the cases against January 6 defendants.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jul/29/john-strand-jan-6-defendant-said-he-endured-four-m/
Charged with a felony, i.e. not a misdemeanor.
J 6 was one of the saddest days in American history
Americans attacked our Capitol
Not even in the top 100.
Exactly
It's like people forget the Capitol was literally bombed in the 1980s….and of course the British burned the White House and most of DC in the war of 1812.
America bounced right back
It's not really about the building.
If an open, violent attempt to nullify a valid election isn't a sad day for the republic, I don't know what to say. It remains to be seen whether we bounce back.
Actually the actions on January 6 might have prevented evidence of wrongdoing from coming forward in congress as at least one state had representatives and a senator who challenged the electors for Alabama if I am not mistaken. The procedures for this are set forth in the Constitution. In fact, the democrats have challenged electors on previous occasions, but they lacked the vote of a senator which is required to proceed with the presentation of evidence on both sides.
I have my suspicions about that Presidential Election in 2020, as do many other Americans. Just the fact that Joe Biden, hiding in his home for most of the campaign supposedly got many more votes than Obama when he ran for President with his popularity is almost impossible to believe. And Kamala got several million less than Biden when she ran in 2024. Something seems amiss to me. Plus many states and big cities reported weird voter irregularities. Funny thing the courts mostly ruled no one had standing to bring the cases so no evidence ever saw the light of day.
But those illegals who broke in and are criminals have standing before they are deported, even though they are not even American citizens. Is this a great country or what.