War with Iran?

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FLBear5630 said:

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4) China cannot project anywhere remotely in vicinity of the military power it would take to reopen it and/or interdict US/allied operations. Completely out of Chinese range for anything other than futile gestures.


Your old man brain is still 30 years in the past.

China is capable of doing anything we are... the only question is whether or not they are as crazy and lack self-preservation instincts to the same extreme degree that we seem to.


You really believe China can project, outside of financially? They have zero blue water capabilities and their Air Force is restricted to operating in China. That is why they invested so heavy in missiles, they can't do the other. Having the equipment is not having a capability.
Whiterock is wrong 95% of the time, but I have to agree with him on this one. China can't project power in that way. However, they won't see Iran as just another loan customer or a means to bleed Western arsenals. Iran has a significant role in Asian economic integration (which of course is the biggest reason we want to smash it).
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So now Iran is now a Nation not to hate? What about the funding terrorism. Why have sanctions on them? Give them a nuke. They can be trusted, right? As long as it doesn't cost barBear let them have it, while we:re at it give one to N Korea..
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"You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake." Jeannette Rankin
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Few events blur the line between analysis and advocacy as thoroughly as war, especially for those with strong personal or ideological ties to the combatants. The challenge is compounded by the relentless flood of propaganda from both sides, making it difficult to distinguish signal from noise. The rise of social media and the growing sophistication of AI-generated images and videos only deepen the confusion, allowing partisans to inhabit parallel realities. In such an environment, even attempting impartial analysis risks drawing ire from those fully invested in their chosen worldview.
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FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:






So now Iran is now a Nation not to hate? What about the funding terrorism. Why have sanctions on them? Give them a nuke. They can be trusted, right? As long as it doesn't cost barBear let them have it, while we:re at it give one to N Korea..

Go join the IDF and fight them then!

I have no reason to hate Iranians.

Iranians have never attacked American soil or stolen my tax dollars despite what Israel would have us believe.

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FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:






So now Iran is now a Nation not to hate? What about the funding terrorism. Why have sanctions on them? Give them a nuke. They can be trusted, right? As long as it doesn't cost barBear let them have it, while we:re at it give one to N Korea..
I don't think they mean it like that. They mean if you oppose US involvement, it doesn't automatically mean you're aligned with Iran.
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The_barBEARian said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:






So now Iran is now a Nation not to hate? What about the funding terrorism. Why have sanctions on them? Give them a nuke. They can be trusted, right? As long as it doesn't cost barBear let them have it, while we:re at it give one to N Korea..

Go join the IDF and fight them then!

I have no reason to hate Iranians.

Iranians have never attacked American soil or stolen my tax dollars despite what Israel would have us believe.




Yeah all those attacks on the shipping hasn't impacted you at all. Regine change in Iran and 90% of the problems in Middle East go away.

By the, similar to Ukraine, you are the only one talking of US troops getting involved.
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Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:






So now Iran is now a Nation not to hate? What about the funding terrorism. Why have sanctions on them? Give them a nuke. They can be trusted, right? As long as it doesn't cost barBear let them have it, while we:re at it give one to N Korea..
I don't think they mean it like that. They mean if you oppose US involvement, it doesn't automatically mean you're aligned with Iran.


Tucker was pretty clear. That sounds pretty much like let Iran be. That is aligning.

Either you believe Iran is bad or not. The proof that they are behind most of the terror in the ME is pretty conclusive. Much more so than any of the Jan 6th, election steals or other conspiracies. Yet, that gets believed. Iran? Don't tell me I have to not like them!
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FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:






So now Iran is now a Nation not to hate? What about the funding terrorism. Why have sanctions on them? Give them a nuke. They can be trusted, right? As long as it doesn't cost barBear let them have it, while we:re at it give one to N Korea..
I don't think they mean it like that. They mean if you oppose US involvement, it doesn't automatically mean you're aligned with Iran.


Tucker was pretty clear. That sounds pretty much like let Iran be. That is aligning.

Either you believe Iran is bad or not. The proof that they are behind most of the terror in the ME is pretty conclusive. Much more so than any of the Jan 6th, election steals or other conspiracies. Yet, that gets believed. Iran? Don't tell me I have to not like them!



No.

It means we are sick and tired of being Israel's lapdogs!

Let the Boomer Ziobots die fighting their wars!
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FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:






So now Iran is now a Nation not to hate? What about the funding terrorism. Why have sanctions on them? Give them a nuke. They can be trusted, right? As long as it doesn't cost barBear let them have it, while we:re at it give one to N Korea..
I don't think they mean it like that. They mean if you oppose US involvement, it doesn't automatically mean you're aligned with Iran.


Tucker was pretty clear. That sounds pretty much like let Iran be. That is aligning.

Either you believe Iran is bad or not. The proof that they are behind most of the terror in the ME is pretty conclusive. Much more so than any of the Jan 6th, election steals or other conspiracies. Yet, that gets believed. Iran? Don't tell me I have to not like them!
That is not aligning. It's rational self-interest.
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FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:






So now Iran is now a Nation not to hate? What about the funding terrorism. Why have sanctions on them? Give them a nuke. They can be trusted, right? As long as it doesn't cost barBear let them have it, while we:re at it give one to N Korea..
I don't think they mean it like that. They mean if you oppose US involvement, it doesn't automatically mean you're aligned with Iran.


Tucker was pretty clear. That sounds pretty much like let Iran be. That is aligning.

Either you believe Iran is bad or not. The proof that they are behind most of the terror in the ME is pretty conclusive. Much more so than any of the Jan 6th, election steals or other conspiracies. Yet, that gets believed. Iran? Don't tell me I have to not like them!
I don't like Iran. I also don't want a major war.
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For people with poor memories, there is ChatGPT...

  • Who financially supports the Houthis?
  • The Houthis in Yemen are primarily funded and supported by Iran. This support includes military, financial, and logistical aid, as well as training and advanced weaponry like ballistic missiles and drones. While Iran denies directly supplying weapons, its support has significantly bolstered the Houthis' capabilities.

  • Have the Houthis attacked U.S. ships?
  • Yes, the Houthis, a Yemeni rebel group, have indeed attacked U.S. Navy ships in the Red Sea. These attacks have involved missiles and drones, and have resulted in increased tensions and concerns about the security of the region.

  • Have the Houthis attacked U.S. commercial ships?
  • Yes, the Houthis have attacked U.S. commercial ships, particularly in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden. These attacks, which began in November 2023, escalated after the start of the Israel-Hamas war. The Houthis claim these attacks are in support of Hamas and to pressure Israel to end the conflict.

  • Has Hezbollah ever attacked U.S. citizens?
  • Yes, Hezbollah has been involved in attacks targeting U.S. interests and citizens in the past. Notably, they are believed to be responsible for the 1983 US embassy bombing and the American barracks bombings in Beirut,resulting in numerous American casualties,

  • Who gives Hezbollah financial support?
  • The State Department's 2022 Country Reports on Terrorism says Iran provides Hezbollah with "most of its funding, training, weapons, and explosives, as well as political, diplomatic, monetary, and organizational aid."
  • Hezbollah traces its origins to the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, which was aimed at removing the Palestine Liberation Organization from the country. Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), with Syrian permission, sent 5000 troops to the Beqaa Valley to train Shi'ite Lebanese fighters who later formed Hezbollah.
  • The State Department's 2022 Country Reports on Terrorism says Iran provides Hezbollah with "most of its funding, training, weapons, and explosives, as well as political, diplomatic, monetary, and organizational aid."

  • Has Iran ever attacked U.S. ships?
  • Yes, Iran has attacked U.S. Navy ships, though not frequently. A notable example is the USS Stark incident in 1987, where an Iraqi plane, acting on incorrect intelligence, mistakenly fired missiles at the Stark, killing 37 U.S. sailors.Additionally, during the Tanker War in the 1980s, Iran targeted commercial tankers, including those under U.S. protection, with missiles. The U.S. Navy also engaged Iranian forces in direct conflict during Operation Praying Mantis in 1988, in retaliation for the mining of the USS Samuel B. Roberts. More recently, Iran-backed militias have launched attacks on U.S. bases and assets in the region, which have included attacks on U.S. military personnel and equipment


    Also, Hezbollah operates cells in Latin America.
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The_barBEARian said:




Another nut. If you want to know about how Iran's government and about 40% of their population thinks, read their words…"Death to America."
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EatMoreSalmon said:

For people with poor memories, there is ChatGPT...

  • Who financially supports the Houthis?
  • The Houthis in Yemen are primarily funded and supported by Iran. This support includes military, financial, and logistical aid, as well as training and advanced weaponry like ballistic missiles and drones. While Iran denies directly supplying weapons, its support has significantly bolstered the Houthis' capabilities.

  • Have the Houthis attacked U.S. ships?
  • Yes, the Houthis, a Yemeni rebel group, have indeed attacked U.S. Navy ships in the Red Sea. These attacks have involved missiles and drones, and have resulted in increased tensions and concerns about the security of the region.

  • Have the Houthis attacked U.S. commercial ships?
  • Yes, the Houthis have attacked U.S. commercial ships, particularly in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden. These attacks, which began in November 2023, escalated after the start of the Israel-Hamas war. The Houthis claim these attacks are in support of Hamas and to pressure Israel to end the conflict.

  • Has Hezbollah ever attacked U.S. citizens?
  • Yes, Hezbollah has been involved in attacks targeting U.S. interests and citizens in the past. Notably, they are believed to be responsible for the 1983 US embassy bombing and the American barracks bombings in Beirut,resulting in numerous American casualties,

  • Who gives Hezbollah financial support?
  • The State Department's 2022 Country Reports on Terrorism says Iran provides Hezbollah with "most of its funding, training, weapons, and explosives, as well as political, diplomatic, monetary, and organizational aid."
  • Hezbollah traces its origins to the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, which was aimed at removing the Palestine Liberation Organization from the country. Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), with Syrian permission, sent 5000 troops to the Beqaa Valley to train Shi'ite Lebanese fighters who later formed Hezbollah.
  • The State Department's 2022 Country Reports on Terrorism says Iran provides Hezbollah with "most of its funding, training, weapons, and explosives, as well as political, diplomatic, monetary, and organizational aid."

  • Has Iran ever attacked U.S. ships?
  • Yes, Iran has attacked U.S. Navy ships, though not frequently. A notable example is the USS Stark incident in 1987, where an Iraqi plane, acting on incorrect intelligence, mistakenly fired missiles at the Stark, killing 37 U.S. sailors.Additionally, during the Tanker War in the 1980s, Iran targeted commercial tankers, including those under U.S. protection, with missiles. The U.S. Navy also engaged Iranian forces in direct conflict during Operation Praying Mantis in 1988, in retaliation for the mining of the USS Samuel B. Roberts. More recently, Iran-backed militias have launched attacks on U.S. bases and assets in the region, which have included attacks on U.S. military personnel and equipment


    Also, Hezbollah operates cells in Latin America.



Don't hate them ...
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whiterock said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Sometimes it pays to read opposition press

Closure of Strait of Hormuz seriously being reviewed by Iran, lawmaker says
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2025/06/14/closure-of-strait-of-hormuz-seriously-being-reviewed-by-iran-lawmaker-says

What is the Strait of Hormuz, could it factor into Israel-Iran conflict?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/14/what-is-the-strait-of-hormuz-could-it-factor-into-israel-iran-conflict

Hopefully Trump has the guts to resist the Israeli push to war, but I'm starting to doubt it. From defunding Ukraine to deporting illegals he seems to be taking several steps backwards recently.

Whiterock and his CIA/MI complex buddies may just get the third world war they are lobbying for.
Doubt the Russians get directly involved......they already have their hands full.

China's economy needs the US far more than Iran.

Right now.....doubt WW3 is likely regardless if the US gets involved or not.


NoKo…..are you watching this?
Iran thought it could make a deal.

I suspect many are watching and thinking they'd much rather be NoKo than Iran.
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EatMoreSalmon said:


  • Has Hezbollah ever attacked U.S. citizens?
  • Yes, Hezbollah has been involved in attacks targeting U.S. interests and citizens in the past. Notably, they are believed to be responsible for the 1983 US embassy bombing and the American barracks bombings in Beirut,resulting in numerous American casualties,

  • Has Iran ever attacked U.S. ships?
  • Yes, Iran has attacked U.S. Navy ships, though not frequently. A notable example is the USS Stark incident in 1987, where an Iraqi plane, acting on incorrect intelligence, mistakenly fired missiles at the Stark, killing 37 U.S. sailors.Additionally, during the Tanker War in the 1980s, Iran targeted commercial tankers, including those under U.S. protection, with missiles. The U.S. Navy also engaged Iranian forces in direct conflict during Operation Praying Mantis in 1988, in retaliation for the mining of the USS Samuel B. Roberts. More recently, Iran-backed militias have launched attacks on U.S. bases and assets in the region, which have included attacks on U.S. military personnel and equipment



So the only things you can come up with happened before I was born... the USS Liberty was also attacked before I was born but Boomer Ziobots dont seem to mind when Israelis are killing American servicemen.
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The_barBEARian said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

For people with poor memories, there is ChatGPT...

  • Who financially supports the Houthis?
  • The Houthis in Yemen are primarily funded and supported by Iran. This support includes military, financial, and logistical aid, as well as training and advanced weaponry like ballistic missiles and drones. While Iran denies directly supplying weapons, its support has significantly bolstered the Houthis' capabilities.

  • Have the Houthis attacked U.S. ships?
  • Yes, the Houthis, a Yemeni rebel group, have indeed attacked U.S. Navy ships in the Red Sea. These attacks have involved missiles and drones, and have resulted in increased tensions and concerns about the security of the region.

  • Have the Houthis attacked U.S. commercial ships?
  • Yes, the Houthis have attacked U.S. commercial ships, particularly in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden. These attacks, which began in November 2023, escalated after the start of the Israel-Hamas war. The Houthis claim these attacks are in support of Hamas and to pressure Israel to end the conflict.

  • Has Hezbollah ever attacked U.S. citizens?
  • Yes, Hezbollah has been involved in attacks targeting U.S. interests and citizens in the past. Notably, they are believed to be responsible for the 1983 US embassy bombing and the American barracks bombings in Beirut,resulting in numerous American casualties,

  • Who gives Hezbollah financial support?
  • The State Department's 2022 Country Reports on Terrorism says Iran provides Hezbollah with "most of its funding, training, weapons, and explosives, as well as political, diplomatic, monetary, and organizational aid."
  • Hezbollah traces its origins to the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, which was aimed at removing the Palestine Liberation Organization from the country. Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), with Syrian permission, sent 5000 troops to the Beqaa Valley to train Shi'ite Lebanese fighters who later formed Hezbollah.
  • The State Department's 2022 Country Reports on Terrorism says Iran provides Hezbollah with "most of its funding, training, weapons, and explosives, as well as political, diplomatic, monetary, and organizational aid."

  • Has Iran ever attacked U.S. ships?
  • Yes, Iran has attacked U.S. Navy ships, though not frequently. A notable example is the USS Stark incident in 1987, where an Iraqi plane, acting on incorrect intelligence, mistakenly fired missiles at the Stark, killing 37 U.S. sailors.Additionally, during the Tanker War in the 1980s, Iran targeted commercial tankers, including those under U.S. protection, with missiles. The U.S. Navy also engaged Iranian forces in direct conflict during Operation Praying Mantis in 1988, in retaliation for the mining of the USS Samuel B. Roberts. More recently, Iran-backed militias have launched attacks on U.S. bases and assets in the region, which have included attacks on U.S. military personnel and equipment


    Also, Hezbollah operates cells in Latin America.


So the only things you can come up with happened before I was born... the USS Liberty was also attacked before I was born but Boomer Ziobots dont seem to mind when Israelis are killing American servicemen.
This is why you are so lost. You can't read, but can watch videos.
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EatMoreSalmon said:

For people with poor memories, there is ChatGPT...
  • Has Iran ever attacked U.S. ships?
  • Yes, Iran has attacked U.S. Navy ships, though not frequently. A notable example is the USS Stark incident in 1987, where an Iraqi plane, acting on incorrect intelligence, mistakenly fired missiles at the Stark, killing 37 U.S. sailors.

ChatGPT forgot the difference between Iran and Iraq.
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Are these US ships?

EatMoreSalmon
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Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

For people with poor memories, there is ChatGPT...
  • Has Iran ever attacked U.S. ships?
  • Yes, Iran has attacked U.S. Navy ships, though not frequently. A notable example is the USS Stark incident in 1987, where an Iraqi plane, acting on incorrect intelligence, mistakenly fired missiles at the Stark, killing 37 U.S. sailors.

ChatGPT forgot the difference between Iran and Iraq.


True, but the tanker war is correct. More than our resident antisemitic would care to recall.
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The_barBEARian
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EatMoreSalmon said:

The_barBEARian said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

For people with poor memories, there is ChatGPT...

  • Who financially supports the Houthis?
  • The Houthis in Yemen are primarily funded and supported by Iran. This support includes military, financial, and logistical aid, as well as training and advanced weaponry like ballistic missiles and drones. While Iran denies directly supplying weapons, its support has significantly bolstered the Houthis' capabilities.

  • Have the Houthis attacked U.S. ships?
  • Yes, the Houthis, a Yemeni rebel group, have indeed attacked U.S. Navy ships in the Red Sea. These attacks have involved missiles and drones, and have resulted in increased tensions and concerns about the security of the region.

  • Have the Houthis attacked U.S. commercial ships?
  • Yes, the Houthis have attacked U.S. commercial ships, particularly in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden. These attacks, which began in November 2023, escalated after the start of the Israel-Hamas war. The Houthis claim these attacks are in support of Hamas and to pressure Israel to end the conflict.

  • Has Hezbollah ever attacked U.S. citizens?
  • Yes, Hezbollah has been involved in attacks targeting U.S. interests and citizens in the past. Notably, they are believed to be responsible for the 1983 US embassy bombing and the American barracks bombings in Beirut,resulting in numerous American casualties,

  • Who gives Hezbollah financial support?
  • The State Department's 2022 Country Reports on Terrorism says Iran provides Hezbollah with "most of its funding, training, weapons, and explosives, as well as political, diplomatic, monetary, and organizational aid."
  • Hezbollah traces its origins to the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, which was aimed at removing the Palestine Liberation Organization from the country. Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), with Syrian permission, sent 5000 troops to the Beqaa Valley to train Shi'ite Lebanese fighters who later formed Hezbollah.
  • The State Department's 2022 Country Reports on Terrorism says Iran provides Hezbollah with "most of its funding, training, weapons, and explosives, as well as political, diplomatic, monetary, and organizational aid."

  • Has Iran ever attacked U.S. ships?
  • Yes, Iran has attacked U.S. Navy ships, though not frequently. A notable example is the USS Stark incident in 1987, where an Iraqi plane, acting on incorrect intelligence, mistakenly fired missiles at the Stark, killing 37 U.S. sailors.Additionally, during the Tanker War in the 1980s, Iran targeted commercial tankers, including those under U.S. protection, with missiles. The U.S. Navy also engaged Iranian forces in direct conflict during Operation Praying Mantis in 1988, in retaliation for the mining of the USS Samuel B. Roberts. More recently, Iran-backed militias have launched attacks on U.S. bases and assets in the region, which have included attacks on U.S. military personnel and equipment


    Also, Hezbollah operates cells in Latin America.


So the only things you can come up with happened before I was born... the USS Liberty was also attacked before I was born but Boomer Ziobots dont seem to mind when Israelis are killing American servicemen.
This is why you are so lost. You can't read, but can watch videos.

It should be required for all Americans to watch these videos:



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boognish_bear said:




If true, this might be too much, too fast. Unless something has changed the scene dramatically.
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The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

Realitybites said:

This is a war for Regime Change. Desert Storm 2.0. It has nothing to do with Iranian nukes.
Its about both, and I don't think Israel has made any secret about that interest. Iran hasn't made their regime change interests for Israel a secret either.

EDIT: Except Trump apparently held Israel back from actually completing it.


Killing Khamenei and his son still wouldn't have ended the regime. It would have only made them martyrs.

You America Last guys never learn.

Iranian society was slowly changing and abandoning Islamism as evidence by the current moderate President being elected over the more hardline opponent in their last election.

Now I would expect a lot of the moderates in Iran to join the hardliners bcs Israel just showed them how wrong they were to trust the West.
You couldn't be more wrong about Iranian society. The power in the country doesn't emanate from the youth or even the merchants in Tehran. It comes out of Qom. And they tolerate then recycle out the same radicalized citizens usually as they hit their mid 30s. It's an amazing social experiment to watch in ideological indoctrination and information management. Islam and Islamism just happens to provide the perfect platform. "Moderate" is a political facade for international purposes when Iran needs or wants something.
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boognish_bear said:




BBC chiming in

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd783v9wn1eo

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Sam Lowry said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

whiterock said:



4) China cannot project anywhere remotely in vicinity of the military power it would take to reopen it and/or interdict US/allied operations. Completely out of Chinese range for anything other than futile gestures.


Your old man brain is still 30 years in the past.

China is capable of doing anything we are... the only question is whether or not they are as crazy and lack self-preservation instincts to the same extreme degree that we seem to.


You really believe China can project, outside of financially? They have zero blue water capabilities and their Air Force is restricted to operating in China. That is why they invested so heavy in missiles, they can't do the other. Having the equipment is not having a capability.
Whiterock is wrong 95% of the time, but I have to agree with him on this one. China can't project power in that way. However, they won't see Iran as just another loan customer or a means to bleed Western arsenals. Iran has a significant role in Asian economic integration (which of course is the biggest reason we want to smash it).


I love the hilarious wildly speculative motives you constantly attribute to our country. Of course, like any ridiculous conspiracy theory, you have no means to prove it, but it won't prevent you from spouting such bull*****

When I said the other day, you've rarely been right on foreign policy, this tendency is but one example.
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The_barBEARian said:






Amen Tucker. A country that is the biggest sponsor of Islamic terrorism in the world today, has killed thousands of Americans in its various proxy wars, tries to assassinate our presidents, and constantly promotes anti-American propaganda throughout the world isn't our enemy. Ukraine is.

What a dumb ass.

I'm beginning to think some of your pro-Iran nut jobs live in an alternate reality
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boognish_bear said:




Even the wet noodles at the IAEA were about to report them to the UN Security Council.
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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:






Amen Tucker. A country that is the biggest sponsor of Islamic terrorism in the world today, has killed thousands of Americans in its various proxy wars, tries to assassinate our presidents, and constantly promotes anti-American propaganda throughout the world isn't our enemy. Ukraine is.

What a dumb ass.

I'm beginning to think some of your pro-Iran nut jobs live in an alternate reality

Non-sequitor.

You are a true deviant. A master manipulator and liar. Its amazing your ability to put words in other men's mouths hasnt gotten your jaw broken before... maybe it has?

Tucker has never said Ukraine is our enemy. He is a non-interventionist. He, like many, doesnt believe Russia is our enemy. Not believing Russia is the enemy doesnt mean you think Ukraine is an enemy.
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boognish_bear said:






In checking on Tulsi's report to Congress, she also said that Iran's enriched uranium stockpiles were extremely high for a country with no weapon.
Also, the IAEA reported this month that Iran had enough stockpile to build 9 bombs if they were capable.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn840275p5yo
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ATL Bear said:

boognish_bear said:




Even the wet noodles at the IAEA were about to report them to the UN Security Council.

Iran publishes 'sensitive' Israeli documents, alleges IAEA-Israel collusion

What's interesting is as soon as Iran releases documents showing the head of the IAEA is compromised and working for Israel... Israel immediately executes a Pearl Harbor style attack against Iran.

Given how many US politicians Israel has in its pocket, I cant help but take these allegations seriously.
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The implosion thing sealed Iran's fate.

It goes without saying that we should not get involved in this area. Keep the strait open, protect ourselves, sure, but making a better nuclear deal with Iran was the right play, not warring with them.
 
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