War with Iran?

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whiterock
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Yogi said:

I would expect a terrorist attack on American soil or against an American interest on July 4.

Everyone be careful.

The proxies are about to go scorched earth.

High likelihood.
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50 hits you before you ever realize it.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Yogi said:

I would expect a terrorist attack on American soil or against an American interest on July 4.

Everyone be careful.

The proxies are about to go scorched earth.


I don't. They are having success against Israel. I see them escalating it.
Those Mfers had better find their ratholes. The gloves are off now.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Yogi said:

I would expect a terrorist attack on American soil or against an American interest on July 4.

Everyone be careful.

The proxies are about to go scorched earth.


I don't. They are having success against Israel. I see them escalating it.

LOL "they?"
Which one is having anything remotely approaching success?
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I will say that the defense lobby and the phatmaseutical lobby have made some very wealthy politicians who otherwise would not have access to such wealth.
"Smarter than the Average Bear."
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Cry more, Iran isn't getting that nuke and the terrorists are going to get caught.
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Yogi said:

I will say that the defense lobby and the phatmaseutical lobby have made some very wealthy politicians who otherwise would not have access to such wealth.
Not to mention interested parties from Moscow and Beijing.
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boognish_bear said:



I fervently hope Democrats double down on this line of attack.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Yogi said:

I would expect a terrorist attack on American soil or against an American interest on July 4.

Everyone be careful.

The proxies are about to go scorched earth.


I don't. They are having success against Israel. I see them escalating it.


Not really. They have had some limited success with a very small number of ballistic missiles that got through their missile shield, but there's no real success there and word is they're running out of missiles.

And for all of the talk about their air defenses being better than advertised, well, we just had 3 B-2's travel fairly deep within the airspace to destroy the facilities in question.

Not terribly worried about Iran.
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Oldbear83 said:

Cry more, Iran isn't getting that nuke and the terrorists are going to get caught.

He ran on no NEW wars.

He violated his biggest campaign promise.

No one voted for war with Iran.

We voted for secure borders, low inflation, and tax cuts.
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USA USA
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KaiBear said:

Youre a clown said:

Porteroso said:

It's interesting that Iran says they evacuated the 3 sites, nobody died as a result of the U.S. strikes, and there is nothing at the 3 sites that would cause radiation leakage. It's almost like they prepared for this, and were ok with it. I wonder if they feel like they can't back down or appear to be giving ground while Israel is bombing, but are ok with the U.S. bombing the sites so Israel has less of a reason to keep attacking. They could never say all of that openly.

Anyways, to the posters who said we couldn't do it, yes we can achieve total perfect victory anytime we want in the skies of a nation like Iran.

The only way I'm ok with it though, is if that was it, finito, and if we push for Israel to stop attacking. The fact that it cost 0 lives is surprising to me, and very good news.


I would have to imagine that there's tons of satellites watching those sites 24/7. If they moved material, I'd be shocked if we didn't know about it. Also, not some sort of expert nuclear engineer, but I doubt that there's just an infinite number of sites that they can take the stuff to that's impregnable to bombs
Israel has spies within the Iranian military and government providing solid intel.

Add in our satellites over the area 24/7 and nothing is going to be moved without us knowing about it.

Trump did the right thing....however we are clearly now in a war with Iran.

And Americans are going to be killed as a result.

Beginning with soft targets right here in the US.

Be careful folks.




More likely they will try to strike US bases in the ME. I'm sure the U.S. has taken precautions to protect those assets.

Also not sure we are in a "war" unless you consider a few air strikes a war. I'd call it more a skirmish and I'm not terribly worried about then having much success with their missiles.
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whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

Realitybites said:

Sunni Islam has been responsible for more US deaths over the past 20 years than Iran, starting with the 3000+ killed by Saudi Arabians on 9/11.

What my plan is? Tell the world unequivocally that we will not be attacking Iran at this time and get both parties back to the negotiating table along with Russian, Chinese, and Arab league negotiators to see what can be done. Sort of like what was going on before Israel unilaterally pearl harbored them.

Netanyahu's appetite for war will diminish dramatically should he realize that in ten days when Israel runs out of interceptors that we aren't giving him our credit card for that 200 million a day bill.

You start from the rational premise that no country's leadership want the gravy train to end, and you quickly realize that regime change operations run the greatest risk of sparking irrational action by any country.
The problem is Russia, China, and Iran, aren't interested is seriously negotiating a nuclear deal. Their goal is for a nuclear armed Iran, full stop. That's why we're where we are today. Iran has never abandoned its goal for a nuclear weapon. Continued negotiations guarantees they'll reach there goal.
Yup.

Which is why regime change is the only practical option. There is no practical solution that does not involve a new regime willing to adopt a policy of abandoning nukes and seeking more constructive foreign policy toward western interests.

Iran has always been the most vulnerable of the 4 Axis powers. Keep up the pressure. Then escalate.

Trying to eliminate 28k ballistic missiles is not practical. Eliminate the leadership that controls them. Then deal with the new regime. Nato is more than tacitly on board for much a policy. THEY are actually under the umbrella of Iranian missiles. Nato aircraft (more than just ours) have been supporting Israel directly (not over Iranian airspace). Turkey has a border with Iran. Azerbaijan has a border with Iran (as well as a close relationship with both Israel and Turkey). And we have assets on the ground in Iraqi Kurdistan. There are substantial Azeri, Turk, and Kurds (and several more) minorities in Northern Iran. So you can take it to the bank that money, arms, ammo, trainers, etc….are on the ground
Right now (and have been for weeks) to destabilize and foment mischief inside Iran.

No invasion required. Make Iran ungovernable. Deal with a new government.


The government is more likely to collapse in Israel as a result of this than Iran.

Do you say stupid stuff just for exercise?


He's done it for years. He's batting less than .100 in his predictions.
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Yogi said:

50 hits you before you ever realize it.


lol. No.
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The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.
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You are sure upset Iran's nuclear ambitions took a hit.

And yes, we voted for this too. Check the polls, most Americans support preventing Iran from getting a nuke, and this was necessary to that end.

No invasion

No troops on the ground

Completely transparent all the way.

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Oldbear83 said:

You are sure upset Iran's nuclear ambitions took a hit.

And yes, we voted for this too. Check the polls, most Americans support preventing Iran from getting a nuke, and this was necessary to that end.

No invasion

No troops on the ground

Completely transparent all the way.




Let's call a spade a spade - he was rooting for Iran in this conflict. That's how badly he hates the Jews.
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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.

But you dont want me to die, right?
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Mothra said:

Oldbear83 said:

You are sure upset Iran's nuclear ambitions took a hit.

And yes, we voted for this too. Check the polls, most Americans support preventing Iran from getting a nuke, and this was necessary to that end.

No invasion

No troops on the ground

Completely transparent all the way.




Let's call a spade a spade - he was rooting for Iran in this conflict. That's how badly he hates the Jews.

I was rooting for peace.

You project your evil onto me.

You are the one who celebrates death.

You are a literal demon.

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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.

But you dont want me to die, right?
We want you to abandon the world view you have built from paper mache and hatred.
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.

But you dont want me to die, right?
Depends. Have you strapped a bomb to your chest, and are taking orders from a Mullah on where to blow up Americans, Israelis or maybe a schoolyard of children?

Your last several posts indicate that may be a possibility, so I had to ask.

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How you die is inconsequential compared to how you live.
"Smarter than the Average Bear."
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Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.

But you dont want me to die, right?
Depends. Have you strapped a bomb to your chest, and are taking orders from a Mullah on where to blow up Americans, Israelis or maybe a schoolyard of children?

Your last several posts indicate that may be a possibility, so I had to ask.


Hey, at least you are honest about wanting me to die for not supporting Israel's Middle East wars.

You are sick and evil... but honest.

You share a lot in common with the radical Islamists.
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Mothra said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Yogi said:

I would expect a terrorist attack on American soil or against an American interest on July 4.

Everyone be careful.

The proxies are about to go scorched earth.


I don't. They are having success against Israel. I see them escalating it.


Not really. They have had some limited success with a very small number of ballistic missiles that got through their missile shield, but there's no real success there and word is they're running out of missiles.

And for all of the talk about their air defenses being better than advertised, well, we just had 3 B-2's travel fairly deep within the airspace to destroy the facilities in question.

Not terribly worried about Iran.

Yes. And to drill down on that further, the Israeli systems were not designed for use against ballistic missiles.
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.

But you dont want me to die, right?


Absolutely not. And the fact that's where your mind goes is a sad commentary on your life.

I hope you find the Lord.
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.

But you dont want me to die, right?
Depends. Have you strapped a bomb to your chest, and are taking orders from a Mullah on where to blow up Americans, Israelis or maybe a schoolyard of children?

Your last several posts indicate that may be a possibility, so I had to ask.


Hey, at least you are honest about wanting me to die for not supporting Israel's Middle East wars.

You are sick and evil... but honest.

You share a lot in common with the radical Islamists.
You are still lying, I see.

First about Trump's campaign promises (hint the main one was securing the border and the second was trade, but you knew that), and now pretending that I want you to die when I said nothing of the kind.

I simply questioned your motive, as your apparent desire is to hurt Americans and their allies.

I notice you did not deny such a desire.
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boognish_bear said:




Funny how she never says this when it was Biden doing the attacks….

Or Obama….
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Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.

But you dont want me to die, right?
Depends. Have you strapped a bomb to your chest, and are taking orders from a Mullah on where to blow up Americans, Israelis or maybe a schoolyard of children?

Your last several posts indicate that may be a possibility, so I had to ask.


Hey, at least you are honest about wanting me to die for not supporting Israel's Middle East wars.

You are sick and evil... but honest.

You share a lot in common with the radical Islamists.
You are still lying, I see.

First about Trump's campaign promises (hint the main one was securing the border and the second was trade, but you knew that), and now pretending that I want you to die when I said nothing of the kind.

I simply questioned your motive, as your apparent desire is to hurt Americans and their allies.

I notice you did not deny such a desire.

I want to hurt Americans?

Who is lying now?
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I apologize to ATL Bear.

But it was a really slimy for him to insinuate I am hoping for American soldiers to die.

I'm the one who wanted to avoid fighting Israel's war so that Americans were never put in harms way in the first place.
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...


Now our resident Jew hater is wishing death on others.

What a miserable POS you are. God help your parents.

But you dont want me to die, right?
Depends. Have you strapped a bomb to your chest, and are taking orders from a Mullah on where to blow up Americans, Israelis or maybe a schoolyard of children?

Your last several posts indicate that may be a possibility, so I had to ask.


Hey, at least you are honest about wanting me to die for not supporting Israel's Middle East wars.

You are sick and evil... but honest.

You share a lot in common with the radical Islamists.
You are still lying, I see.

First about Trump's campaign promises (hint the main one was securing the border and the second was trade, but you knew that), and now pretending that I want you to die when I said nothing of the kind.

I simply questioned your motive, as your apparent desire is to hurt Americans and their allies.

I notice you did not deny such a desire.

I want to hurt Americans?

Who is lying now?
I asked your intentions. All you have done in reply is lie about what I said and duck the question.

I get it, your buddies in Teheran are having a bad day, but if you don't hate Americans, it should be easy enough for you to admit it's a good thing Iran's program is in much worse shape than this morning.
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