The_barBEARian said:
whiterock said:
The_barBEARian said:
whiterock said:
The_barBEARian said:
whiterock said:
For those who think only boomers support this conflict….herewith numbers from one of the bluer polling units.
I've never been more proud to be a Millenial!
We learned our lessons from the GWOT..... that you Boomer *******s are completely incompetent and incapable of leading wars and that the only beneficiaries will be O&G, defense contractors, politicians, and Israel.
Looks like the Zoomers are now going to have to learn that lesson unfortunately.....
All you have learned is how to stick the beginning of the alimentary canal up the aperture of the end of it, and call it wisdom.
Here's a good window to reality. Interestingly, Israel has nothing to do with it.
I read the first paragraph and stopped after they said the ballistic missiles that are incapable of hitting US soil were a threat.
What am I suppose to extract from this X thread that will suddenly turn me in favor of America becoming a pro-interventionist, global corporation beholden to international interests instead of an actual, real country that represents the culture, history, and people who have lived here for centuries?
We are getting near the point with inflation and government spending, where the only people who can make a living anymore in this country either work for the government or the defense contactors (which are really just government institutions masquerading as private industry).
Like we've said. You only see what you want to see. They had no ballistic misses a decade ago. Now they can strike NATO (and other) allies. It's a matter of time until they have intercontinental ballistic capability. A same for nuclear weapons capability.
Will they be a threat then?
Do we have to actually wait for that threat to mature before responding?
How many more Americans have to die before it's enough to animate you as much as the USS Libert incident?
It's one thing to be ignorant. It's another to be stupid. The two together are toxic mix. But to be hidebound about it all is absolutely toxic. You are the effin' Ford Pinto = unsafe at any speed.
My question is why dont you care about the servicemen killed onboard the USS Liberty. They were your peers. Guys your age. It could very easily have been you getting gunned down by Israeli fighter jets and blown apart by Israeli torpedos.
This is not hard to understand. It was a mistake. It happens. Just like it did in Kuwait today. Just like it did that time the USS Vincennes shot down a civilian airliner over the Persian Gulf. And Israel immediately apologized, paid restitution for the Liberty incident, and our relationship improved from there. We also apologized and paid restitution for the Vincennes incident. The operative concept here is the old adage about not judging someone on his worst day (or worst post). Judge them on the body of their work. (and your really, really sucks.)
There should be a movie about the heroism and tenacity of those men.
There should be an annual day of remembrance in Israel with a huge ****ing memorial built for the servicemen who died. It should be treated with the same level of reverence and respect as Pearl Harbor.
But back to present day, I dont trust Satanyahu anymore more than the now deceased Grandpa Jihad.
Why dont you support Israel signing the nuclear non-proliferation agreement like the US, Russia, China?.... hell even Iran signed it!
Because Israel is a free western liberal democracy and not remotely a threat to us. But it is surrounded by vastly numerically superior enemies who find the existence of Israel itself to be deeply offensive to sensibilities. Israel needs nuclear deterrent to ensure its survival.
I'm not even asking them to even give up their nukes (even though they stole the materials and technology from us... see Apollo Affair) Only to abide by the same rules we do.
The Liberty incident was one incident, for which Israel quickly and on its own initiative made amends. Same cannot be said about Iran, which started off its rule by seizing our Embassy and its entire staff of 66 diplomats & holding them hostage for over 400 days. It proceeded to bomb our Beirut embassy, killing 63, and later kill 241 Marines in Lebanon while on a US peacekeeping mission. And capture CIA station chief William Buckley & torture him for months. They actually skinned him alive and sent Reagan a video of it. Khobar towers attack killed 19 Americans. And on and on and on and on, right up to the Hamas attack on Israel on October 7th 46 American citizens were killed that day. 12 Americans taken hostage. And that's before we get to plots to assassinate SecState Mike Pompeo and NatSec Advisor John Bolton, or the plot to assassinate Trump in 2025. Not once did Iran apologize. Oh no. They doubled down, tripled down, built three major proxy armies (Houthis, Hizballah, Hamas) and set up drone factories in Venezuela. As if that wasn't enough, they built their own long range ballistic missile program currently capable of striking Warsaw and Rome, and were steadily developing intercontinental capability. All while working pedal to the metal to build a nuclear weapon. But you studiously ignore all of that, because to actually acknowledge the totality of decades of unrelenting Iranian unconventional warfare against us would require you to put down your little Hasidic Jew voodoo doll.
To be so upset about the Liberty incident yet studiously indifferent about the butchers bill of Americans killed/maimed by Iran is stupefyingly illogical.
You are not just ignorant.
You are not just dumb.
You are intellectually dishonest.
If Iran dropped a nuke on us, you'd blame Israel.
Seek help.
