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🇺🇸 🇮🇱 Congressman James Traficant tried to warn everyone what was going on back in 2009.

No one listened and now America is $40T in debt, post ‘war on terror’ mass migration changed Europe’s demographics forever and the first amendment is on its last legs. pic.twitter.com/ykpdKupHOF

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 26, 2026

In 2009 former Ohio Representative James Traficant claimed that Israel through its lobbying power entraps the United States into Wars it should not be in.

He had just been released from prison for tax and campaign finance violations.

He always maintained that the FBI, the… pic.twitter.com/xDR4a1PWuj

— Uncommon Sense (@Uncommonsince76) April 15, 2024

This guy was a patriot.

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Guy was also a criminal nut job.

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It's weird how anyone who speaks out like that is a criminal nut job and people like Lutnick and Epstein get their crimes covered up. Dinesh D'sousa is also a criminal nut job by that logic bc Obama put him in prison for simlar crimes.

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You might want to read up on the guy a bit. He was entertaining, but not terribly serious and rather egregiously broke numerous laws. Was expelled from Congress with a single no vote (from the disgraced Gary Condit). But he and BarBEARean do have one thing in common - a soft spot for Nazis.

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You want nazis to exist so bad... but they dont. There are no more 98 year old secretaries who were loosely associate with a person who knew a person who was 3rd cousins of a German solider during WW2 for you to put on trial and torture to death. And of course your bloodlust can never be fully satisfied by Iranian school girls.

So instead you go after the favorite target - white conservative men (the more German ancestry, the better).

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Hoisted by your own ignorance. Traficant loudly defended John Denjanjuk and Arthur Randolph. Google them up.

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Dont lazily tell me to look them up.

Take the time to spit out your irrational, revenge porn fantasies.

In reality, you are no different than the non-existent nazis you hate.

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LOL both were actual WWII Nazis

The fun thing about the Carney administration is that we have no idea what side Canada would join. https://t.co/6a41TE7NOm

— Daniel Bordman (@DanielBordmanOG) March 5, 2026

whiterock said:

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🇺🇸 🇮🇱 Congressman James Traficant tried to warn everyone what was going on back in 2009.

No one listened and now America is $40T in debt, post ‘war on terror’ mass migration changed Europe’s demographics forever and the first amendment is on its last legs. pic.twitter.com/ykpdKupHOF

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 26, 2026

In 2009 former Ohio Representative James Traficant claimed that Israel through its lobbying power entraps the United States into Wars it should not be in.

He had just been released from prison for tax and campaign finance violations.

He always maintained that the FBI, the… pic.twitter.com/xDR4a1PWuj

— Uncommon Sense (@Uncommonsince76) April 15, 2024

This guy was a patriot.

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Guy was also a criminal nut job.

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It's weird how anyone who speaks out like that is a criminal nut job and people like Lutnick and Epstein get their crimes covered up. Dinesh D'sousa is also a criminal nut job by that logic bc Obama put him in prison for simlar crimes.

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You might want to read up on the guy a bit. He was entertaining, but not terribly serious and rather egregiously broke numerous laws. Was expelled from Congress with a single no vote (from the disgraced Gary Condit). But he and BarBEARean do have one thing in common - a soft spot for Nazis.

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You want nazis to exist so bad... but they dont. There are no more 98 year old secretaries who were loosely associate with a person who knew a person who was 3rd cousins of a German solider during WW2 for you to put on trial and torture to death. And of course your bloodlust can never be fully satisfied by Iranian school girls.

So instead you go after the favorite target - white conservative men (the more German ancestry, the better).

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Hoisted by your own ignorance. Traficant loudly defended John Denjanjuk and Arthur Randolph. Google them up.

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Dont lazily tell me to look them up.

Take the time to spit out your irrational, revenge porn fantasies.

In reality, you are no different than the non-existent nazis you hate.

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LOL both were actual WWII Nazis

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https://www.npr.org/2022/12/20/1144315459/german-court-convicts-97-year-old-ex-secretary-at-nazi-camp

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muddybrazos said:

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🇺🇸 🇮🇱 Congressman James Traficant tried to warn everyone what was going on back in 2009.

No one listened and now America is $40T in debt, post ‘war on terror’ mass migration changed Europe’s demographics forever and the first amendment is on its last legs. pic.twitter.com/ykpdKupHOF

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 26, 2026

In 2009 former Ohio Representative James Traficant claimed that Israel through its lobbying power entraps the United States into Wars it should not be in.

He had just been released from prison for tax and campaign finance violations.

He always maintained that the FBI, the… pic.twitter.com/xDR4a1PWuj

— Uncommon Sense (@Uncommonsince76) April 15, 2024

This guy was a patriot.

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Guy was also a criminal nut job.

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It's weird how anyone who speaks out like that is a criminal nut job and people like Lutnick and Epstein get their crimes covered up. Dinesh D'sousa is also a criminal nut job by that logic bc Obama put him in prison for simlar crimes.

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You might want to read up on the guy a bit. He was entertaining, but not terribly serious and rather egregiously broke numerous laws. Was expelled from Congress with a single no vote (from the disgraced Gary Condit). But he and BarBEARean do have one thing in common - a soft spot for Nazis.

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You want nazis to exist so bad... but they dont. There are no more 98 year old secretaries who were loosely associate with a person who knew a person who was 3rd cousins of a German solider during WW2 for you to put on trial and torture to death. And of course your bloodlust can never be fully satisfied by Iranian school girls.

So instead you go after the favorite target - white conservative men (the more German ancestry, the better).

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Hoisted by your own ignorance. Traficant loudly defended John Denjanjuk and Arthur Randolph. Google them up.

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Dont lazily tell me to look them up.

Take the time to spit out your irrational, revenge porn fantasies.

In reality, you are no different than the non-existent nazis you hate.

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LOL both were actual WWII Nazis

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https://www.npr.org/2022/12/20/1144315459/german-court-convicts-97-year-old-ex-secretary-at-nazi-camp

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I am sympathetic to the prosecutorial discretion argument that the juice is not worth the squeeze 80yrs down the road, but I'm not stupid enough to spend my political capital to go full Traficant and defend actual Nazis like you're doing.

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🇺🇸 🇮🇱 Congressman James Traficant tried to warn everyone what was going on back in 2009.

No one listened and now America is $40T in debt, post ‘war on terror’ mass migration changed Europe’s demographics forever and the first amendment is on its last legs. pic.twitter.com/ykpdKupHOF

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 26, 2026

In 2009 former Ohio Representative James Traficant claimed that Israel through its lobbying power entraps the United States into Wars it should not be in.

He had just been released from prison for tax and campaign finance violations.

He always maintained that the FBI, the… pic.twitter.com/xDR4a1PWuj

— Uncommon Sense (@Uncommonsince76) April 15, 2024

This guy was a patriot.

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Guy was also a criminal nut job.

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It's weird how anyone who speaks out like that is a criminal nut job and people like Lutnick and Epstein get their crimes covered up. Dinesh D'sousa is also a criminal nut job by that logic bc Obama put him in prison for simlar crimes.

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You might want to read up on the guy a bit. He was entertaining, but not terribly serious and rather egregiously broke numerous laws. Was expelled from Congress with a single no vote (from the disgraced Gary Condit). But he and BarBEARean do have one thing in common - a soft spot for Nazis.

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You want nazis to exist so bad... but they dont. There are no more 98 year old secretaries who were loosely associate with a person who knew a person who was 3rd cousins of a German solider during WW2 for you to put on trial and torture to death. And of course your bloodlust can never be fully satisfied by Iranian school girls.

So instead you go after the favorite target - white conservative men (the more German ancestry, the better).

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Hoisted by your own ignorance. Traficant loudly defended John Denjanjuk and Arthur Randolph. Google them up.

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Dont lazily tell me to look them up.

Take the time to spit out your irrational, revenge porn fantasies.

In reality, you are no different than the non-existent nazis you hate.

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LOL both were actual WWII Nazis

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https://www.npr.org/2022/12/20/1144315459/german-court-convicts-97-year-old-ex-secretary-at-nazi-camp

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I am sympathetic to the prosecutorial discretion argument that the juice is not worth the squeeze 80yrs down the road, but I'm not stupid enough to spend my political capital to go full Traficant and defend actual Nazis like you're doing.

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Set your politics aside for a moment.

You are a Christian, right?

Isnt Christianity the only religion whose core tenet is forgiveness? Isnt that why Christ died on the Cross? To forgive us our sins? I think after 80 years when someone is on their deathbed and they have remorse in their heart, the Christian thing to do is to forgive. Correct?

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It's about time.

I still don't get why alternate pipelines have not been built to make the Straits irrelevant.


Saudi Arabia starts to shift crude exports to Red Sea as Hormuz disruption mounts

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Too easy to destroy

The_barBEARian said:

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🇺🇸 🇮🇱 Congressman James Traficant tried to warn everyone what was going on back in 2009.

No one listened and now America is $40T in debt, post ‘war on terror’ mass migration changed Europe’s demographics forever and the first amendment is on its last legs. pic.twitter.com/ykpdKupHOF

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 26, 2026

In 2009 former Ohio Representative James Traficant claimed that Israel through its lobbying power entraps the United States into Wars it should not be in.

He had just been released from prison for tax and campaign finance violations.

He always maintained that the FBI, the… pic.twitter.com/xDR4a1PWuj

— Uncommon Sense (@Uncommonsince76) April 15, 2024

This guy was a patriot.

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Guy was also a criminal nut job.

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It's weird how anyone who speaks out like that is a criminal nut job and people like Lutnick and Epstein get their crimes covered up. Dinesh D'sousa is also a criminal nut job by that logic bc Obama put him in prison for simlar crimes.

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You might want to read up on the guy a bit. He was entertaining, but not terribly serious and rather egregiously broke numerous laws. Was expelled from Congress with a single no vote (from the disgraced Gary Condit). But he and BarBEARean do have one thing in common - a soft spot for Nazis.

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You want nazis to exist so bad... but they dont. There are no more 98 year old secretaries who were loosely associate with a person who knew a person who was 3rd cousins of a German solider during WW2 for you to put on trial and torture to death. And of course your bloodlust can never be fully satisfied by Iranian school girls.

So instead you go after the favorite target - white conservative men (the more German ancestry, the better).

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Hoisted by your own ignorance. Traficant loudly defended John Denjanjuk and Arthur Randolph. Google them up.

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Dont lazily tell me to look them up.

Take the time to spit out your irrational, revenge porn fantasies.

In reality, you are no different than the non-existent nazis you hate.

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LOL both were actual WWII Nazis

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https://www.npr.org/2022/12/20/1144315459/german-court-convicts-97-year-old-ex-secretary-at-nazi-camp

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I am sympathetic to the prosecutorial discretion argument that the juice is not worth the squeeze 80yrs down the road, but I'm not stupid enough to spend my political capital to go full Traficant and defend actual Nazis like you're doing.

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Set your politics aside for a moment.

You are a Christian, right?

Isnt Christianity the only religion whose core tenet is forgiveness? Isnt that why Christ died on the Cross? To forgive us our sins? I think after 80 years when someone is on their deathbed and they have remorse in their heart, the Christian thing to do is to forgive. Correct?

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A government is made up of many individuals.
God didn't tell governments to "go forth and multiply." He didn't tell nations to " 'Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations."

Governments can operate under Christian principles but, a government is not Christian.

Whether the "juice was worth the squeeze" or not isn't really for us to decide. It seems the German government has a policy to prosecute which they did. They also showed mercy and gave her a two-year suspended sentence.

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🇺🇸 🇮🇱 Congressman James Traficant tried to warn everyone what was going on back in 2009.

No one listened and now America is $40T in debt, post ‘war on terror’ mass migration changed Europe’s demographics forever and the first amendment is on its last legs. pic.twitter.com/ykpdKupHOF

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 26, 2026

In 2009 former Ohio Representative James Traficant claimed that Israel through its lobbying power entraps the United States into Wars it should not be in.

He had just been released from prison for tax and campaign finance violations.

He always maintained that the FBI, the… pic.twitter.com/xDR4a1PWuj

— Uncommon Sense (@Uncommonsince76) April 15, 2024

This guy was a patriot.

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Guy was also a criminal nut job.

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It's weird how anyone who speaks out like that is a criminal nut job and people like Lutnick and Epstein get their crimes covered up. Dinesh D'sousa is also a criminal nut job by that logic bc Obama put him in prison for simlar crimes.

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You might want to read up on the guy a bit. He was entertaining, but not terribly serious and rather egregiously broke numerous laws. Was expelled from Congress with a single no vote (from the disgraced Gary Condit). But he and BarBEARean do have one thing in common - a soft spot for Nazis.

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You want nazis to exist so bad... but they dont. There are no more 98 year old secretaries who were loosely associate with a person who knew a person who was 3rd cousins of a German solider during WW2 for you to put on trial and torture to death. And of course your bloodlust can never be fully satisfied by Iranian school girls.

So instead you go after the favorite target - white conservative men (the more German ancestry, the better).

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Hoisted by your own ignorance. Traficant loudly defended John Denjanjuk and Arthur Randolph. Google them up.

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Dont lazily tell me to look them up.

Take the time to spit out your irrational, revenge porn fantasies.

In reality, you are no different than the non-existent nazis you hate.

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LOL both were actual WWII Nazis

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https://www.npr.org/2022/12/20/1144315459/german-court-convicts-97-year-old-ex-secretary-at-nazi-camp

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I am sympathetic to the prosecutorial discretion argument that the juice is not worth the squeeze 80yrs down the road, but I'm not stupid enough to spend my political capital to go full Traficant and defend actual Nazis like you're doing.

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Set your politics aside for a moment.

You are a Christian, right?

Isnt Christianity the only religion whose core tenet is forgiveness? Isnt that why Christ died on the Cross? To forgive us our sins? I think after 80 years when someone is on their deathbed and they have remorse in their heart, the Christian thing to do is to forgive. Correct?

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This is not politics we're talking about. It's plain history and law and legal process. Traficant was a flamboyant loudmouth who for years ranted for effect while playing fast & loose with the law. And in his showboating routine he loudly defended two people who were unquestionably uniformed Nazis....in Demjanjuk's case actually serving in the SS with nazi tattoos & such. I can buy the prosecutorial discretion and national security arguments for not prosecuting them given passage of time, jurisdictional difficulties, and immigration decisions made in the post-war era (a deal is a deal....). I can also buy the argument that their actions were so egregious that they should not be immune from accountability. And in that regard, it's letting juries rather than prosecutors make the determination on fairness. What I will not do is defend them as victims. They played a role in the greatest piece of evil in the modern age. We in the west have processes for meeting out justice such things and they played the way self-government plays out.

Curiously, though, your favorite whipping boy Israel acquitted Demjanjuk. It was Germany that convicted him. Yet another little fact in discordance with your hatred.

Traficant had all sorts of issues, but you should tell the entire story about Demjanjuk.

"Traficant championed the unpopular case of John Demjanjuk, a Ukrainian-born autoworker from Seven Hills who had been convicted in Israel and sentenced to hang for having been the brutal Nazi concentration camp guard nicknamed "Ivan the Terrible". For almost a decade, Traficant, along with Pat Buchanan, insisted that Demjanjuk had been denied a fair trial, and been the victim of mistaken identity. In 1993, the Supreme Court of Israel overturned the conviction on the basis of reasonable doubt. Demjanjuk was later deported to Germany on May 11, 2009, after the Supreme Court of the United States refused to overturn his deportation order. Demjanjuk was tried and convicted by a German criminal court of being an accessory to murder, but died before the German appellate court could hear his case, thereby voiding the conviction."

Of course almost 4 decades later we know just how deeply the Ukranian state supports and identifies with Nazis so it's entirely possible. But there are a lot of living Ivan the Terribles in Ukraine in 2026.

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Traficant had all sorts of issues, but you should tell the entire story about Demjanjuk.

"Traficant championed the unpopular case of John Demjanjuk, a Ukrainian-born autoworker from Seven Hills who had been convicted in Israel and sentenced to hang for having been the brutal Nazi concentration camp guard nicknamed "Ivan the Terrible". For almost a decade, Traficant, along with Pat Buchanan, insisted that Demjanjuk had been denied a fair trial, and been the victim of mistaken identity. In 1993, the Supreme Court of Israel overturned the conviction on the basis of reasonable doubt. Demjanjuk was later deported to Germany on May 11, 2009, after the Supreme Court of the United States refused to overturn his deportation order. Demjanjuk was tried and convicted by a German criminal court of being an accessory to murder, but died before the German appellate court could hear his case, thereby voiding the conviction."

Of course almost 4 decades later we know just how deeply the Ukranian state supports and identifies with Nazis so it's entirely possible. But there are a lot of living Ivan the Terribles in Ukraine in 2026.

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Dude admitted in court to burning off his SS tattoo to avoid execution by the Red Army….

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Dude admitted in court to burning off his SS tattoo to avoid execution by the Red Army….

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The question wasn't was he a guard in the third reich.

The question upon which the death penalty prosecution hinged was whether he was Ivan the Terrible.

"The prosecution relied heavily on the testimony of Holocaust survivors to establish that Demjanjuk had been at Treblinka, five of whom were put on the stand.[75][76] Four of the survivors who had originally identified Demjanjuk's photograph had died before the trial began.[77] The testimony of one of these witnesses, Pinhas Epstein, had been barred as unreliable in US denaturalization trial of former camp guard Feodor Fedorenko,[76] while another, Gustav Boraks, sometimes appeared confused on the stand.[78] The most important of these was Eliyahu Rosenberg.[76] Asked by the prosecution if he recognized Demjanjuk, Rosenberg asked that the defendant remove his glasses "so I can see his eyes".[79] Rosenberg approached and peered closely at Demjanjuk's face. When Demjanjuk smiled and offered his hand, Rosenberg recoiled and shouted "Grozny!", meaning "Terrible" in Polish and Russian. Rosenberg stated: "Ivan, I say it unhesitatingly, without the slightest shadow of a doubt. It is Ivan from Treblinka, from the gas chambers, the man I am looking at now."[79] Rosenberg further told the court, glaring at Demjanjuk, "I saw his eyes, I saw those murderous eyes."[79] Rosenberg then exclaimed directly to Demjanjuk: "How dare you put out your hand, murderer that you are!"[79] It was later learned that Rosenberg had previously testified in a 1947 deposition that "Ivan the Terrible" had been killed in 1943."

Not exactly great evidence.

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whiterock said:

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Dude admitted in court to burning off his SS tattoo to avoid execution by the Red Army….

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The question wasn't was he a guard in the third reich.

The question upon which the death penalty prosecution hinged was whether he was Ivan the Terrible.

"The prosecution relied heavily on the testimony of Holocaust survivors to establish that Demjanjuk had been at Treblinka, five of whom were put on the stand.[75][76] Four of the survivors who had originally identified Demjanjuk's photograph had died before the trial began.[77] The testimony of one of these witnesses, Pinhas Epstein, had been barred as unreliable in US denaturalization trial of former camp guard Feodor Fedorenko,[76] while another, Gustav Boraks, sometimes appeared confused on the stand.[78] The most important of these was Eliyahu Rosenberg.[76] Asked by the prosecution if he recognized Demjanjuk, Rosenberg asked that the defendant remove his glasses "so I can see his eyes".[79] Rosenberg approached and peered closely at Demjanjuk's face. When Demjanjuk smiled and offered his hand, Rosenberg recoiled and shouted "Grozny!", meaning "Terrible" in Polish and Russian. Rosenberg stated: "Ivan, I say it unhesitatingly, without the slightest shadow of a doubt. It is Ivan from Treblinka, from the gas chambers, the man I am looking at now."[79] Rosenberg further told the court, glaring at Demjanjuk, "I saw his eyes, I saw those murderous eyes."[79] Rosenberg then exclaimed directly to Demjanjuk: "How dare you put out your hand, murderer that you are!"[79] It was later learned that Rosenberg had previously testified in a 1947 deposition that "Ivan the Terrible" had been killed in 1943."

Not exactly great evidence.

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You can spend your capital defending a Ukrainian who served in the Waffen SS. I won't. Let the process play out. (And it played out ok for him in Israel, if you'll bother to check on it.)

Every. Single. Time. https://t.co/zUb0yb3TFQ

— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) March 9, 2026

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Dude admitted in court to burning off his SS tattoo to avoid execution by the Red Army….

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The question wasn't was he a guard in the third reich.

The question upon which the death penalty prosecution hinged was whether he was Ivan the Terrible.

"The prosecution relied heavily on the testimony of Holocaust survivors to establish that Demjanjuk had been at Treblinka, five of whom were put on the stand.[75][76] Four of the survivors who had originally identified Demjanjuk's photograph had died before the trial began.[77] The testimony of one of these witnesses, Pinhas Epstein, had been barred as unreliable in US denaturalization trial of former camp guard Feodor Fedorenko,[76] while another, Gustav Boraks, sometimes appeared confused on the stand.[78] The most important of these was Eliyahu Rosenberg.[76] Asked by the prosecution if he recognized Demjanjuk, Rosenberg asked that the defendant remove his glasses "so I can see his eyes".[79] Rosenberg approached and peered closely at Demjanjuk's face. When Demjanjuk smiled and offered his hand, Rosenberg recoiled and shouted "Grozny!", meaning "Terrible" in Polish and Russian. Rosenberg stated: "Ivan, I say it unhesitatingly, without the slightest shadow of a doubt. It is Ivan from Treblinka, from the gas chambers, the man I am looking at now."[79] Rosenberg further told the court, glaring at Demjanjuk, "I saw his eyes, I saw those murderous eyes."[79] Rosenberg then exclaimed directly to Demjanjuk: "How dare you put out your hand, murderer that you are!"[79] It was later learned that Rosenberg had previously testified in a 1947 deposition that "Ivan the Terrible" had been killed in 1943."

Not exactly great evidence.

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Thats why these trials were so disgusting... it was elder abuse for the sake of sick revenge porn fantasies.

They were not about justice.

Part of my grandfather's time in the service during WW2 was guarding German POWs that were kept in Roswell, New Mexico. His mother's family was German so he liked to practice his German with the POWs. He never had a bad thing to say about any of them... the opposite actually. He, like General Patton, had respect for them... even though one of his cousins was disfigured for life by a Stielhandgranate

If you haven't seen Band of Brothers, I highly recommend it.

Its the best WW2 media ever made or ever will be made bcs it was based on the true testimonies of Americans who fought in the war. The war was brutal and unforgiving, but the Americans who fought it respected the Germans and had no sadism or anger towards them like our resident CIA/Mossad spook whiterock

I come from a time when even we Americans and westerners could humanize Nazi's in popular media. There was a time in America where you could understand this without being called a nazi. There was a time you could be proud of your people and nation without being compared to them.… pic.twitter.com/iBmp8FLjoC

— Paul (@WomanDefiner) March 9, 2026

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Dude admitted in court to burning off his SS tattoo to avoid execution by the Red Army….

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The question wasn't was he a guard in the third reich.

The question upon which the death penalty prosecution hinged was whether he was Ivan the Terrible.

"The prosecution relied heavily on the testimony of Holocaust survivors to establish that Demjanjuk had been at Treblinka, five of whom were put on the stand.[75][76] Four of the survivors who had originally identified Demjanjuk's photograph had died before the trial began.[77] The testimony of one of these witnesses, Pinhas Epstein, had been barred as unreliable in US denaturalization trial of former camp guard Feodor Fedorenko,[76] while another, Gustav Boraks, sometimes appeared confused on the stand.[78] The most important of these was Eliyahu Rosenberg.[76] Asked by the prosecution if he recognized Demjanjuk, Rosenberg asked that the defendant remove his glasses "so I can see his eyes".[79] Rosenberg approached and peered closely at Demjanjuk's face. When Demjanjuk smiled and offered his hand, Rosenberg recoiled and shouted "Grozny!", meaning "Terrible" in Polish and Russian. Rosenberg stated: "Ivan, I say it unhesitatingly, without the slightest shadow of a doubt. It is Ivan from Treblinka, from the gas chambers, the man I am looking at now."[79] Rosenberg further told the court, glaring at Demjanjuk, "I saw his eyes, I saw those murderous eyes."[79] Rosenberg then exclaimed directly to Demjanjuk: "How dare you put out your hand, murderer that you are!"[79] It was later learned that Rosenberg had previously testified in a 1947 deposition that "Ivan the Terrible" had been killed in 1943."

Not exactly great evidence.

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You can spend your capital defending a Ukrainian who served in the Waffen SS. I won't.

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Won't defend them? You've been among their biggest cheerleaders for the last four years.

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Dude admitted in court to burning off his SS tattoo to avoid execution by the Red Army….

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The question wasn't was he a guard in the third reich.

The question upon which the death penalty prosecution hinged was whether he was Ivan the Terrible.

"The prosecution relied heavily on the testimony of Holocaust survivors to establish that Demjanjuk had been at Treblinka, five of whom were put on the stand.[75][76] Four of the survivors who had originally identified Demjanjuk's photograph had died before the trial began.[77] The testimony of one of these witnesses, Pinhas Epstein, had been barred as unreliable in US denaturalization trial of former camp guard Feodor Fedorenko,[76] while another, Gustav Boraks, sometimes appeared confused on the stand.[78] The most important of these was Eliyahu Rosenberg.[76] Asked by the prosecution if he recognized Demjanjuk, Rosenberg asked that the defendant remove his glasses "so I can see his eyes".[79] Rosenberg approached and peered closely at Demjanjuk's face. When Demjanjuk smiled and offered his hand, Rosenberg recoiled and shouted "Grozny!", meaning "Terrible" in Polish and Russian. Rosenberg stated: "Ivan, I say it unhesitatingly, without the slightest shadow of a doubt. It is Ivan from Treblinka, from the gas chambers, the man I am looking at now."[79] Rosenberg further told the court, glaring at Demjanjuk, "I saw his eyes, I saw those murderous eyes."[79] Rosenberg then exclaimed directly to Demjanjuk: "How dare you put out your hand, murderer that you are!"[79] It was later learned that Rosenberg had previously testified in a 1947 deposition that "Ivan the Terrible" had been killed in 1943."

Not exactly great evidence.

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You can spend your capital defending a Ukrainian who served in the Waffen SS. I won't.

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Won't defend them? You've been among their biggest cheerleaders for the last four years.

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LOL.

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— Gunther Eagleman™ (@GuntherEagleman) March 9, 2026