So... at what point do Republicans realize Trump is bad at this?

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BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.




^^^ OMG what is this?

Did Cinque get another alt?

Of course it did

Crap gets old
"OMG, what is this?"
It's truth.
I think if you'll read many of the threads and responses on this board, Trump supporters, as you call them, do not support everything he does...and that's been stated numerous times. What we don't do, is come onto a college football message board and whine and complain about everything he does or everything he does that we don't agree with. In this specific thread, we're discussing the Ukraine issue. Trump supporters ARE defending him on this because we see it as a witch hunt AND that he did nothing wrong.

Do I like his tweeting? No. Would you feel better if I started a thread everytime he tweets something I don't like?

Do I agree with his "abandoning" the Kurds? With the information that I have read, no, I do not. Would starting a thread about that make you feel better?

Maybe anti-Trumpers need to give him some credit sometimes AND stop starting threads on a college board everytime they get upset. Look at Brooks Bear, cinque, waco, and jinx....they are literally glued to the news in wait for something to get upset about so that they can come on here and rant. Why not address them also?
You see, here's where you're wrong. I don't sit and wait. I WISH I could sit and wait. Proof of the President's rank incompetence hits us daily. He literally has averaged an impeachable offense a day the last two weeks.

Congratulations on being the demographic that Trump likes and to whom he directs what little effectiveness he has. If you are not one of his constitutents, he does not give a flying **** about you.

But we are all one country. He is supposed to be President of all of us. Instead, he actively antagonizes the other and feeds red meat to his base. And he gets away with it because people like you will never hold him accountable. People like you could do more than say "awe shucks, I don't like his tweets" grow a spine and MAKE HIM ACCOUNTABLE.

But you won't. You'll keep trying to be an intellectual zamboni for him, trying desperately to explain how "do me a favor" doesnt' mean what we all know it means.

We will NEVER have better than Trump until we demand better than Trump. You say you don't like his tweets? DO something about it.
"But we are all one country."

Obviously, this is no longer really true. The lines on the map are still there, but the divisions are profound and real. The responses you see on this board are a microcosm of this reality. I find many things about Trump I don't like at all. You can rant all you like about growing a spine and post in all CAPS until your finger tips bleed, but that won't alter the fundamental truth (or, "my truth" as your kind likes to style it) that there is not a single democrat candidate actually in the race that I would come anywhere close to voting for ever. Why can't YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?! When will you demand better than Trump from your side?

When you strip away your incessant whining/TDS, there is a very real culture clash and contest of ideas which are incompatible and mutually exclusive. With no workable compromises available, the only sensible end game is winning by whatever means are available. You should just admit and accept you could never fully support anyone on the right over against anyone on the left. You cool with that?

FWIW, I voted for Cruz in the primary. Pretty sure you hate him, too - lol.
This is a huge load of bull***** Your tribalism isn't the standard.
I wish it wasn't. But, the fact that we are even having this conversation proves that it isn't a "huge load of bull****". Logic 101, amigo. I could just as easily claim "your tribalism isn't the standard". See how that works? Probably not.... quelle surprise.
No, I get it. You're wrapped up in "your truth." At least you get that you're deluded. You've gone all-in on this. Your pride means more than what is actually good for the country. You've wrapped your entire self around this -and that's just pathetic.

But it is what it is.

There are still people who think Nixon got a raw deal. Oh well.
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Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


Are you against open borders, free healthcare for illegals and gun confiscation?

Do you seriously not realize several Democrats openly push for these?
There is no such thing as "free healthcare." There is no mainstream Democratic candidate that is for "open borders." That is a blatant lie.

Keep changing the topic from Trump. That's literally the only chance he has.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment

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Osodecentx said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Of course you are right. BBL response will be an insult
Where's the insult?
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Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
This isn't an opinion piece:

Where's the "free" part?

Tell me exactly where they said "free."
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BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


Are you against open borders, free healthcare for illegals and gun confiscation?

Do you seriously not realize several Democrats openly push for these?
There is no such thing as "free healthcare." There is no mainstream Democratic candidate that is for "open borders." That is a blatant lie.

Keep changing the topic from Trump. That's literally the only chance he has.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment


I'm about ready for Pence anyway
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Sam Lowry said:

Trump is restoring sanity to our foreign policy for the first time in decades. But yeah, let's run him out of office for those TWEETS!
Look at this sanity in foreign policy! So sane, you guys.

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BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
You didn't specify Buttigieg.

With factual content...I guess you didn't read them. Anyway,

Buttigieg raised his hand for free health care for illegals.

He is in favor of some sort of reparations.

His views on gun control are tolerable.

He has not said alot about immigration.

He is in favor of abortion on demand and even after birth.
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Peace in the Middle East?!

Don't worry. Trump has his best guy on it! His son-in-law known only for being bad at spending his parents money and has NO foreign policy experience.

This is the guy who's going to bring sanity to the Middle East.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-plan-exclusive/exclusive-white-houses-kushner-unveils-economic-portion-of-middle-east-peace-plan-idUSKCN1TN0ES
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BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
This isn't an opinion piece:

Where's the "free" part?

Tell me exactly where they said "free."
Every candidate's plan covers people who can't afford healthcare including those without income. So yeah it would go to illegals that can't pay.

Are you for it or against it?
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fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
You didn't specify Buttigieg.

With factual content...I guess you didn't read them. Anyway,

Buttigieg raised his hand for free health care for illegals.

He is in favor of some sort of reparations.

His views on gun control are tolerable.

He has not said alot about immigration.

He is in favor of abortion on demand and even after birth.
Show me where he's said he's for after birth abortions.

He wasn't for free care for illegals. He said they are covered under the health plan -but they pay. They sincerely do.

Reparations is something even Trump has spoken about. So that's pretty far from disqualifying. And if we're being honest, it should be talked about.
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Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
This isn't an opinion piece:

Where's the "free" part?

Tell me exactly where they said "free."
Every candidate's plan covers people who can't afford healthcare including those without income. So yeah it would go to illegals that can't pay.

Are you for it or against it?
I am 100% for providing healthcare for everyone as a human right. Absolutely. Having a healthy society/country is a baseline. People should not be falling dead in the streets. Providing healthcare through a plan would DRASTICALLY cut costs as people would 1. not clog emergency rooms, and 2. come in BEFORE they get desperate.

It will absolutely save money in the long run.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/03/health/undocumented-immigrants-health-care.html
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BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
You didn't specify Buttigieg.

With factual content...I guess you didn't read them. Anyway,

Buttigieg raised his hand for free health care for illegals.

He is in favor of some sort of reparations.

His views on gun control are tolerable.

He has not said alot about immigration.

He is in favor of abortion on demand and even after birth.
Show me where he's said he's for after birth abortions.

He wasn't for free care for illegals. He said they are covered under the health plan -but they pay. They sincerely do.

Reparations is something even Trump has spoken about. So that's pretty far from disqualifying. And if we're being honest, it should be talked about.
"During a recent radio interview, Buttigieg attacked Republicans for their stance on abortion and defended, on biblical grounds, abortion throughout the term of pregnancy. "Right now, they hold everybody in line with this one piece of doctrine about abortion," he said. "Then again, there's a lot of parts of the Bible that talk about how life begins with breath. And so, even that is something that we can interpret differently."
There are plenty of verses to contradict Buttigieg's sophistry here, and he knows better than to make these arguments. Advancements in science and technology have made it almost impossible to deny that an unborn baby is a human life. This is why most leftists have abandoned the absurd claim that the unborn child is merely a clump of cells and have instead turned to the more brazen argument that the mother has a right to kill a human being in the womb. It is hard to believe, but that's where the left is today.
Buttigieg himself effectively admits that when life begins is not the deciding factor for him on abortion. "I might draw the line here. You might draw the line there. But the most important thing is the person who should be drawing the line is the woman making the decision," he declares."

1. He says until baby draws its first breath
2. It's up to the woman to decide

He raised his hand.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/every-dem-on-debate-stage-endorses-publicly-funded-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/
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BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
You didn't specify Buttigieg.

With factual content...I guess you didn't read them. Anyway,

Buttigieg raised his hand for free health care for illegals.

He is in favor of some sort of reparations.

His views on gun control are tolerable.

He has not said alot about immigration.

He is in favor of abortion on demand and even after birth.
Show me where he's said he's for after birth abortions.

He wasn't for free care for illegals. He said they are covered under the health plan -but they pay. They sincerely do.

Reparations is something even Trump has spoken about. So that's pretty far from disqualifying. And if we're being honest, it should be talked about.
It should not be talked about. No one alive today lived back then. It's over.

I have not read where Trump backs this.

Who else should we provide reparations for?
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BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
This isn't an opinion piece:

Where's the "free" part?

Tell me exactly where they said "free."
Every candidate's plan covers people who can't afford healthcare including those without income. So yeah it would go to illegals that can't pay.

Are you for it or against it?
I am 100% for providing healthcare for everyone as a human right. Absolutely. Having a healthy society/country is a baseline. People should not be falling dead in the streets. Providing healthcare through a plan would DRASTICALLY cut costs as people would 1. not clog emergency rooms, and 2. come in BEFORE they get desperate.

It will absolutely save money in the long run.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/03/health/undocumented-immigrants-health-care.html
Not sure what income you make, but if it's anywhere close to mine, you'll be paying $4k-6k more in taxes per year for Universal Healthcare.

Sucks for me because I only spend about $100 out of my own pocket on healthcare per year.

Then of course our tax cuts will be reversed and higher than they were under Obama.

But none of it will matter because every Candidate running is in support of banning fracking and that will destroy my career.

Any way you slice it, when Democrats get power...I am in deep financial trouble. Especially when you start adding in free college and massive expansions to welfare. Wouldn't surprise me to see median income earners paying more than half their salary in taxes at some point.
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BBL and other have not yet realized when the Dems say "free everything" that it is indeed, not actually free.
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BBL and other have not yet realized when the Dems say "free everything" that it is indeed, not actually free.
I don't think those guys truly understand how ****ty, slow and badly operated everything in government is.

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If a woman behaved the way Trump has behaved while he's been in office, she would have been impeached and carted off to a mental institution before the first year was over.
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BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


Are you against open borders, free healthcare for illegals and gun confiscation?

Do you seriously not realize several Democrats openly push for these?
There is no such thing as "free healthcare." There is no mainstream Democratic candidate that is for "open borders." That is a blatant lie.

Keep changing the topic from Trump. That's literally the only chance he has.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment


Polls are always right.
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Jinx 2 said:

If a woman behaved the way Trump has behaved while he's been in office, she would have been impeached and carted off to a mental institution before the first year was over.
Luckily, Hillary showed us much worse and we voted against her.
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#SweetDonny

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fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
You didn't specify Buttigieg.

With factual content...I guess you didn't read them. Anyway,

Buttigieg raised his hand for free health care for illegals.

He is in favor of some sort of reparations.

His views on gun control are tolerable.

He has not said alot about immigration.

He is in favor of abortion on demand and even after birth.
Show me where he's said he's for after birth abortions.

He wasn't for free care for illegals. He said they are covered under the health plan -but they pay. They sincerely do.

Reparations is something even Trump has spoken about. So that's pretty far from disqualifying. And if we're being honest, it should be talked about.
"During a recent radio interview, Buttigieg attacked Republicans for their stance on abortion and defended, on biblical grounds, abortion throughout the term of pregnancy. "Right now, they hold everybody in line with this one piece of doctrine about abortion," he said. "Then again, there's a lot of parts of the Bible that talk about how life begins with breath. And so, even that is something that we can interpret differently."
There are plenty of verses to contradict Buttigieg's sophistry here, and he knows better than to make these arguments. Advancements in science and technology have made it almost impossible to deny that an unborn baby is a human life. This is why most leftists have abandoned the absurd claim that the unborn child is merely a clump of cells and have instead turned to the more brazen argument that the mother has a right to kill a human being in the womb. It is hard to believe, but that's where the left is today.
Buttigieg himself effectively admits that when life begins is not the deciding factor for him on abortion. "I might draw the line here. You might draw the line there. But the most important thing is the person who should be drawing the line is the woman making the decision," he declares."

1. He says until baby draws its first breath
2. It's up to the woman to decide

He raised his hand.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/every-dem-on-debate-stage-endorses-publicly-funded-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/
Soooooo, you don't have it. Got it.
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So far, BBL doesn't like Trump's mean tweets. His frustration and dislike (jinx too for that matter, is his tweeting. So I guess, if Trump stopped tweeting, they'd like him.
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BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
You didn't specify Buttigieg.

With factual content...I guess you didn't read them. Anyway,

Buttigieg raised his hand for free health care for illegals.

He is in favor of some sort of reparations.

His views on gun control are tolerable.

He has not said alot about immigration.

He is in favor of abortion on demand and even after birth.
Show me where he's said he's for after birth abortions.

He wasn't for free care for illegals. He said they are covered under the health plan -but they pay. They sincerely do.

Reparations is something even Trump has spoken about. So that's pretty far from disqualifying. And if we're being honest, it should be talked about.
"During a recent radio interview, Buttigieg attacked Republicans for their stance on abortion and defended, on biblical grounds, abortion throughout the term of pregnancy. "Right now, they hold everybody in line with this one piece of doctrine about abortion," he said. "Then again, there's a lot of parts of the Bible that talk about how life begins with breath. And so, even that is something that we can interpret differently."
There are plenty of verses to contradict Buttigieg's sophistry here, and he knows better than to make these arguments. Advancements in science and technology have made it almost impossible to deny that an unborn baby is a human life. This is why most leftists have abandoned the absurd claim that the unborn child is merely a clump of cells and have instead turned to the more brazen argument that the mother has a right to kill a human being in the womb. It is hard to believe, but that's where the left is today.
Buttigieg himself effectively admits that when life begins is not the deciding factor for him on abortion. "I might draw the line here. You might draw the line there. But the most important thing is the person who should be drawing the line is the woman making the decision," he declares."

1. He says until baby draws its first breath
2. It's up to the woman to decide

He raised his hand.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/every-dem-on-debate-stage-endorses-publicly-funded-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/
Soooooo, you don't have it. Got it.
I gave you a quote. Look it up if you doubt me. He's gotten alot of flack for it.
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BrooksBearLives said:

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BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.




^^^ OMG what is this?

Did Cinque get another alt?

Of course it did

Crap gets old
"OMG, what is this?"
It's truth.
I think if you'll read many of the threads and responses on this board, Trump supporters, as you call them, do not support everything he does...and that's been stated numerous times. What we don't do, is come onto a college football message board and whine and complain about everything he does or everything he does that we don't agree with. In this specific thread, we're discussing the Ukraine issue. Trump supporters ARE defending him on this because we see it as a witch hunt AND that he did nothing wrong.

Do I like his tweeting? No. Would you feel better if I started a thread everytime he tweets something I don't like?

Do I agree with his "abandoning" the Kurds? With the information that I have read, no, I do not. Would starting a thread about that make you feel better?

Maybe anti-Trumpers need to give him some credit sometimes AND stop starting threads on a college board everytime they get upset. Look at Brooks Bear, cinque, waco, and jinx....they are literally glued to the news in wait for something to get upset about so that they can come on here and rant. Why not address them also?
You see, here's where you're wrong. I don't sit and wait. I WISH I could sit and wait. Proof of the President's rank incompetence hits us daily. He literally has averaged an impeachable offense a day the last two weeks.

Congratulations on being the demographic that Trump likes and to whom he directs what little effectiveness he has. If you are not one of his constitutents, he does not give a flying **** about you.

But we are all one country. He is supposed to be President of all of us. Instead, he actively antagonizes the other and feeds red meat to his base. And he gets away with it because people like you will never hold him accountable. People like you could do more than say "awe shucks, I don't like his tweets" grow a spine and MAKE HIM ACCOUNTABLE.

But you won't. You'll keep trying to be an intellectual zamboni for him, trying desperately to explain how "do me a favor" doesnt' mean what we all know it means.

We will NEVER have better than Trump until we demand better than Trump. You say you don't like his tweets? DO something about it.
"But we are all one country."

Obviously, this is no longer really true. The lines on the map are still there, but the divisions are profound and real. The responses you see on this board are a microcosm of this reality. I find many things about Trump I don't like at all. You can rant all you like about growing a spine and post in all CAPS until your finger tips bleed, but that won't alter the fundamental truth (or, "my truth" as your kind likes to style it) that there is not a single democrat candidate actually in the race that I would come anywhere close to voting for ever. Why can't YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?! When will you demand better than Trump from your side?

When you strip away your incessant whining/TDS, there is a very real culture clash and contest of ideas which are incompatible and mutually exclusive. With no workable compromises available, the only sensible end game is winning by whatever means are available. You should just admit and accept you could never fully support anyone on the right over against anyone on the left. You cool with that?

FWIW, I voted for Cruz in the primary. Pretty sure you hate him, too - lol.
This is a huge load of bull***** Your tribalism isn't the standard.
I wish it wasn't. But, the fact that we are even having this conversation proves that it isn't a "huge load of bull****". Logic 101, amigo. I could just as easily claim "your tribalism isn't the standard". See how that works? Probably not.... quelle surprise.
No, I get it. You're wrapped up in "your truth." At least you get that you're deluded. You've gone all-in on this. Your pride means more than what is actually good for the country. You've wrapped your entire self around this -and that's just pathetic.

But it is what it is.

There are still people who think Nixon got a raw deal. Oh well.
I see you've devolved to grade school level thinking and are incapable of entertaining the notion that everything you claim of me can just as easily be said of you. Pathetic, but not unexpected from you. But, it is what it is.
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BrooksBearLives said:

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fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
You didn't specify Buttigieg.

With factual content...I guess you didn't read them. Anyway,

Buttigieg raised his hand for free health care for illegals.

He is in favor of some sort of reparations.

His views on gun control are tolerable.

He has not said alot about immigration.

He is in favor of abortion on demand and even after birth.
Show me where he's said he's for after birth abortions.

He wasn't for free care for illegals. He said they are covered under the health plan -but they pay. They sincerely do.

Reparations is something even Trump has spoken about. So that's pretty far from disqualifying. And if we're being honest, it should be talked about.
It should not be talked about. No one alive today lived back then. It's over.

I have not read where Trump backs this.

Who else should we provide reparations for?
Serious people can talk about it. It's okay to talk about it. The fact is that poverty is cyclical. Even after slavery ended (which was only 150 years ago), Jim Crow laws systematically impoverished slaves and their descendants. And Jim Crow didn't end until 50 years ago.

But there are still grandchildren of slaves. Grandchildren of people who had NOTHING, and were kept from having ANYTHING until this generation. Wealth is handed down from family to family. The idea that something can be done to break that cycle -or that it may be worth while- is not ridiculous.

And yes. Even Trump called the idea "interesting" though he "[didn't] see it happening." https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/450126-exclusive-trump-on-reparations-i-dont-see-it-happening
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Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


Are you against open borders, free healthcare for illegals and gun confiscation?

Do you seriously not realize several Democrats openly push for these?
There is no such thing as "free healthcare." There is no mainstream Democratic candidate that is for "open borders." That is a blatant lie.

Keep changing the topic from Trump. That's literally the only chance he has.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment


Polls are always right.
LMAO. When you have enough polls...
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BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
You didn't specify Buttigieg.

With factual content...I guess you didn't read them. Anyway,

Buttigieg raised his hand for free health care for illegals.

He is in favor of some sort of reparations.

His views on gun control are tolerable.

He has not said alot about immigration.

He is in favor of abortion on demand and even after birth.
Show me where he's said he's for after birth abortions.

He wasn't for free care for illegals. He said they are covered under the health plan -but they pay. They sincerely do.

Reparations is something even Trump has spoken about. So that's pretty far from disqualifying. And if we're being honest, it should be talked about.
"During a recent radio interview, Buttigieg attacked Republicans for their stance on abortion and defended, on biblical grounds, abortion throughout the term of pregnancy. "Right now, they hold everybody in line with this one piece of doctrine about abortion," he said. "Then again, there's a lot of parts of the Bible that talk about how life begins with breath. And so, even that is something that we can interpret differently."
There are plenty of verses to contradict Buttigieg's sophistry here, and he knows better than to make these arguments. Advancements in science and technology have made it almost impossible to deny that an unborn baby is a human life. This is why most leftists have abandoned the absurd claim that the unborn child is merely a clump of cells and have instead turned to the more brazen argument that the mother has a right to kill a human being in the womb. It is hard to believe, but that's where the left is today.
Buttigieg himself effectively admits that when life begins is not the deciding factor for him on abortion. "I might draw the line here. You might draw the line there. But the most important thing is the person who should be drawing the line is the woman making the decision," he declares."

1. He says until baby draws its first breath
2. It's up to the woman to decide

He raised his hand.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/every-dem-on-debate-stage-endorses-publicly-funded-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/
Soooooo, you don't have it. Got it.
From his own website...

A woman should have the freedom to make medical decisions on her own or with the counsel of her doctor, family, and faith leaders those whom she chooses and she trusts. The government's role should be to make sure all women have access to comprehensive affordable care, and that includes preventive care, contraceptive services, prenatal and postpartum care, and safe and legal abortion.
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fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
You didn't specify Buttigieg.

With factual content...I guess you didn't read them. Anyway,

Buttigieg raised his hand for free health care for illegals.

He is in favor of some sort of reparations.

His views on gun control are tolerable.

He has not said alot about immigration.

He is in favor of abortion on demand and even after birth.
Show me where he's said he's for after birth abortions.

He wasn't for free care for illegals. He said they are covered under the health plan -but they pay. They sincerely do.

Reparations is something even Trump has spoken about. So that's pretty far from disqualifying. And if we're being honest, it should be talked about.
"During a recent radio interview, Buttigieg attacked Republicans for their stance on abortion and defended, on biblical grounds, abortion throughout the term of pregnancy. "Right now, they hold everybody in line with this one piece of doctrine about abortion," he said. "Then again, there's a lot of parts of the Bible that talk about how life begins with breath. And so, even that is something that we can interpret differently."
There are plenty of verses to contradict Buttigieg's sophistry here, and he knows better than to make these arguments. Advancements in science and technology have made it almost impossible to deny that an unborn baby is a human life. This is why most leftists have abandoned the absurd claim that the unborn child is merely a clump of cells and have instead turned to the more brazen argument that the mother has a right to kill a human being in the womb. It is hard to believe, but that's where the left is today.
Buttigieg himself effectively admits that when life begins is not the deciding factor for him on abortion. "I might draw the line here. You might draw the line there. But the most important thing is the person who should be drawing the line is the woman making the decision," he declares."

1. He says until baby draws its first breath
2. It's up to the woman to decide

He raised his hand.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/every-dem-on-debate-stage-endorses-publicly-funded-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/
Soooooo, you don't have it. Got it.
I gave you a quote. Look it up if you doubt me. He's gotten alot of flack for it.
No. You gave me a quote that didn't say he was for "after birth abortions" (which aren't a thing). Then you engaged in a level of conjecture that I find dizzying considering you accuse others of "reading into" "do me a favor though."

Be. Intellectually. Honest.
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fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
You didn't specify Buttigieg.

With factual content...I guess you didn't read them. Anyway,

Buttigieg raised his hand for free health care for illegals.

He is in favor of some sort of reparations.

His views on gun control are tolerable.

He has not said alot about immigration.

He is in favor of abortion on demand and even after birth.
Show me where he's said he's for after birth abortions.

He wasn't for free care for illegals. He said they are covered under the health plan -but they pay. They sincerely do.

Reparations is something even Trump has spoken about. So that's pretty far from disqualifying. And if we're being honest, it should be talked about.
"During a recent radio interview, Buttigieg attacked Republicans for their stance on abortion and defended, on biblical grounds, abortion throughout the term of pregnancy. "Right now, they hold everybody in line with this one piece of doctrine about abortion," he said. "Then again, there's a lot of parts of the Bible that talk about how life begins with breath. And so, even that is something that we can interpret differently."
There are plenty of verses to contradict Buttigieg's sophistry here, and he knows better than to make these arguments. Advancements in science and technology have made it almost impossible to deny that an unborn baby is a human life. This is why most leftists have abandoned the absurd claim that the unborn child is merely a clump of cells and have instead turned to the more brazen argument that the mother has a right to kill a human being in the womb. It is hard to believe, but that's where the left is today.
Buttigieg himself effectively admits that when life begins is not the deciding factor for him on abortion. "I might draw the line here. You might draw the line there. But the most important thing is the person who should be drawing the line is the woman making the decision," he declares."

1. He says until baby draws its first breath
2. It's up to the woman to decide

He raised his hand.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/every-dem-on-debate-stage-endorses-publicly-funded-health-care-for-illegal-immigrants/
Soooooo, you don't have it. Got it.
From his own website...

A woman should have the freedom to make medical decisions on her own or with the counsel of her doctor, family, and faith leaders those whom she chooses and she trusts. The government's role should be to make sure all women have access to comprehensive affordable care, and that includes preventive care, contraceptive services, prenatal and postpartum care, and safe and legal abortion.
Where's the "after birth abortion?"
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Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


Are you against open borders, free healthcare for illegals and gun confiscation?

Do you seriously not realize several Democrats openly push for these?
There is no such thing as "free healthcare." There is no mainstream Democratic candidate that is for "open borders." That is a blatant lie.

Keep changing the topic from Trump. That's literally the only chance he has.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment


I'm about ready for Pence anyway
***** Me too.
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If a woman behaved the way Trump has behaved while he's been in office, she would have been impeached and carted off to a mental institution before the first year was over.
Luckily, Hillary showed us much worse and we voted against her.
Are you still talking about her emails? Yeah. So much worse than betrayal of our allies against ISIS AFTER WE PROMISED THEM WE WOULDN'T LET TURKEY ATTACK.
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Doc Holliday said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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fadskier said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
This isn't an opinion piece:

Where's the "free" part?

Tell me exactly where they said "free."
Every candidate's plan covers people who can't afford healthcare including those without income. So yeah it would go to illegals that can't pay.

Are you for it or against it?
I am 100% for providing healthcare for everyone as a human right. Absolutely. Having a healthy society/country is a baseline. People should not be falling dead in the streets. Providing healthcare through a plan would DRASTICALLY cut costs as people would 1. not clog emergency rooms, and 2. come in BEFORE they get desperate.

It will absolutely save money in the long run.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/03/health/undocumented-immigrants-health-care.html
Not sure what income you make, but if it's anywhere close to mine, you'll be paying $4k-6k more in taxes per year for Universal Healthcare.

Sucks for me because I only spend about $100 out of my own pocket on healthcare per year.

Then of course our tax cuts will be reversed and higher than they were under Obama.

But none of it will matter because every Candidate running is in support of banning fracking and that will destroy my career.

Any way you slice it, when Democrats get power...I am in deep financial trouble. Especially when you start adding in free college and massive expansions to welfare. Wouldn't surprise me to see median income earners paying more than half their salary in taxes at some point.
I'd pay more in taxes, but I wouldn't have to pay the $10K plus in insurance premiums.

I'd be okay with that.
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Buttigieg is also for repealing the Hyde Amendment, raising the minimum wage to $15, addressing the non-existing gender pay gap, believes that government should pay for reassignment surgery for prisoners, free college, cancel student debt, believes in human aided climate change.


Ummm, no thanks. He's a train wreck...albeit not as big a one as Harris, Sanders and Warren.
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Doc Holliday said:

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BBL and other have not yet realized when the Dems say "free everything" that it is indeed, not actually free.
I don't think those guys truly understand how ****ty, slow and badly operated everything in government is.


LMAO. Have you ever been sick? Medicare/Medicaid has 2% overhead and almost zero fraud (outside of Rick Scott). Insurance companies spend 25-35% of every premium dollar on administrative costs, blimps, CEO salaries, etc.

They are maybe the ONE exception to the "government is less efficient" rule.
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If a woman behaved the way Trump has behaved while he's been in office, she would have been impeached and carted off to a mental institution before the first year was over.
Luckily, Hillary showed us much worse and we voted against her.
Are you still talking about her emails? Yeah. So much worse than betrayal of our allies against ISIS AFTER WE PROMISED THEM WE WOULDN'T LET TURKEY ATTACK.
I already said that I didn't agree with that. But as usual you are unglued by Trump.
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