fadskier said:
Jinx 2 said:
quash said:
LOL.
Either you give presidents credit for the economy (you) or you don't (me). Now you want it both ways: all the good was Trump; anything bad is Fed, the media, Democrats, swamp, etc.
There are some as think removing Trump would restore the GOP.
We have 8 or 9 parties under the umbrella of 2 parties.
Trump Republicans, neocons (to the extent those still exist), fiscally and socially conservative Chamber-of-Commerce corporate Republicans like Romney and Flake, evangelicals whose main concerns are social issues whom the GOP has embraced to get enough votes to elect guys like Trump, and moderate Republicans who like conservative fiscal and tax policies but not the anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-sex-education turn the GOP has taken = today's GOP. The Trump voices are the loudest, but the Romney voters are still out there. The deficit hawks are off the radar screen right now,but they'll show up again the day after the next Democrat takes office.
The Democrats = Bernie voters who want a harder turn to the left, Biden moderates who want a middle road without the anti-gay, anti-brown-immigrant bigotry and female-body-control policies advocated by the GOP (I'd include Harris in this group), "big idea" guys like Andrew Yang who want to create a rising tide that will lift all boats because they perceive, accurately, that "trickle down" doesn't work (but at least they're out there with new ideas, which no one in the GOP is offering because wall-building, stacking the courts, selling us out to the Saudis, the Russians and the Chinese (McConnell had better not utter a PEEP about Hunter Biden being as how he's married to China Rose), and defending Trump's latest misdeeds have proved to be more than a full-time job) , and a host of minority politicians whose only hope for a substantive political career is as Democrats because Republicans have made the same bad bargain with white nationalists that they made with evangelicals.
Then there are libertarians. My hope is that the GOP's shameless deficit spending combined with its attacks on civil liberties will shift more libertarian votes to Democrats, or at least away from Trump Republicans, who have been only too happy to trade liberty for obedience to the dear leader. Impeachment of this criminal can't happen soon enough.
Trump is not anti-Gay
Trump is not anti-brown immigrant
Trump does not want to control female body parts
Replace Trump with your generalized "republicans" and that's not true either. Sue there are some people that that are...but I think you need to educate yourself on the word "anti" because you have no idea what it means.
Do you ever say anything nice about anyone? You have got to be the most self-absorbed, unfriendly, unkind person I've ever "met." I truly hope you find happiness in something.
The GOP opposes civil rights for LGBT people and abortion and wants to limit contraception options to only those approved of by certain conservative religious groups.
Trump is the putative leader of the GOP.
I'm also mystified as to how you can say with a straight face that "Trump is not anti-brown immigrant" when he describes countries populated by brown people at ****hole countries and wants to build a wall, complete with alligator-filled moats, to keep refugees out of the U.S., when he implemented a travel ban that was rejected twice by federal courts for targeting brown people from Muslim countries, and when he wants to eliminate asylum rights we currently grant.
I have posted on this forum as "Jinx" for more than 10 years, but I have a life outside this forum. Believe it or not, I have sing in a church choir, walk my dog twice a day, have 2 grown daughters who have launched their own careers, have friends of all political persuasions (although, since Trump, I don't talk about certain policies with some of them), volunteer with a church ministry that feeds homeless and low-income people in the neighborhood surrounding the church, volunteer on an affordable housing task force with a nonprofit in my city as a policy-writer, and lead a happy and fulfilling life.
I oppose Trump because I want to continue to live in a country where dissent and disagreement over political policies are tolerated. Trump is the least tolerant president we've had during my lifetime of more than 60 years. He's a danger to democracy. So, yes, I'm angry at supporters who think, as one poster said within the past week on this forum, that democracy is overrated, and who want to hold Trump above/outside/beyond the laws that have applied to every other president and public official since I've been a voting adult. IMO, the rule of law, upholding the constitution and accountability are key to our system of government. Those of you who defend Trump regardless of how low he stoops and how obvious it is that he's engaged in criminal or even just sketchy behavior are, IMO, unAmerican.
