So... at what point do Republicans realize Trump is bad at this?

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BrooksBearLives said:

So trump denied knowing the two businessmen arrested today on charges.

But the proof says that's a lie....


Here's Trump tomorrow: "Let me see...Rudi, Rudi, Rudi...I don't think I know a Rudi."
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BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
This isn't an opinion piece:

Where's the "free" part?

Tell me exactly where they said "free."
Every candidate's plan covers people who can't afford healthcare including those without income. So yeah it would go to illegals that can't pay.

Are you for it or against it?
I am 100% for providing healthcare for everyone as a human right. Absolutely. Having a healthy society/country is a baseline. People should not be falling dead in the streets. Providing healthcare through a plan would DRASTICALLY cut costs as people would 1. not clog emergency rooms, and 2. come in BEFORE they get desperate.

It will absolutely save money in the long run.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/03/health/undocumented-immigrants-health-care.html
Not sure what income you make, but if it's anywhere close to mine, you'll be paying $4k-6k more in taxes per year for Universal Healthcare.

Sucks for me because I only spend about $100 out of my own pocket on healthcare per year.

Then of course our tax cuts will be reversed and higher than they were under Obama.

But none of it will matter because every Candidate running is in support of banning fracking and that will destroy my career.

Any way you slice it, when Democrats get power...I am in deep financial trouble. Especially when you start adding in free college and massive expansions to welfare. Wouldn't surprise me to see median income earners paying more than half their salary in taxes at some point.
I'd pay more in taxes, but I wouldn't have to pay the $10K plus in insurance premiums.

I'd be okay with that.
Would you pay so much in taxes that you can't afford your home any longer?

What is your threshold?

Do you draw any lines with how large government can get and in what ways they can control our lives?
Do insurance companies control your life?
No, not at all.


I can tell you've never been very sick.

If insurance companies don't control your life, then how would the government replacing them control your life?


Pretty simple. People like you would dictate health care decisions. Although you have no medical training you would decide who lives and who dies.

Look no further than the Squad. Not a single one of them has a science degree but they "know" how to fix the climate hoax.


If you think you're healthcare decisions aren't already being dictated to you, you're not paying attention.

Honestly, I absolutely would trust a government whose administration I could vote out over a CEO with a golden parachute.
Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset.

And by the way nobody's dictating my healthcare decisions but me. Because I pay for them. I choose my insurance provider and plan in a free market, and whatever they don't cover I pay for from the money I've earned. Not sure what you mean about not paying attention.


Most people do NOT "choose" their healthcare.

https://openmarketsinstitute.org/explainer/health-insurance-and-monopoly/
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BrooksBearLives said:

bearassnekkid said:

BrooksBearLives said:

GrowlTowel said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
This isn't an opinion piece:

Where's the "free" part?

Tell me exactly where they said "free."
Every candidate's plan covers people who can't afford healthcare including those without income. So yeah it would go to illegals that can't pay.

Are you for it or against it?
I am 100% for providing healthcare for everyone as a human right. Absolutely. Having a healthy society/country is a baseline. People should not be falling dead in the streets. Providing healthcare through a plan would DRASTICALLY cut costs as people would 1. not clog emergency rooms, and 2. come in BEFORE they get desperate.

It will absolutely save money in the long run.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/03/health/undocumented-immigrants-health-care.html
Not sure what income you make, but if it's anywhere close to mine, you'll be paying $4k-6k more in taxes per year for Universal Healthcare.

Sucks for me because I only spend about $100 out of my own pocket on healthcare per year.

Then of course our tax cuts will be reversed and higher than they were under Obama.

But none of it will matter because every Candidate running is in support of banning fracking and that will destroy my career.

Any way you slice it, when Democrats get power...I am in deep financial trouble. Especially when you start adding in free college and massive expansions to welfare. Wouldn't surprise me to see median income earners paying more than half their salary in taxes at some point.
I'd pay more in taxes, but I wouldn't have to pay the $10K plus in insurance premiums.

I'd be okay with that.
Would you pay so much in taxes that you can't afford your home any longer?

What is your threshold?

Do you draw any lines with how large government can get and in what ways they can control our lives?
Do insurance companies control your life?
No, not at all.


I can tell you've never been very sick.

If insurance companies don't control your life, then how would the government replacing them control your life?


Pretty simple. People like you would dictate health care decisions. Although you have no medical training you would decide who lives and who dies.

Look no further than the Squad. Not a single one of them has a science degree but they "know" how to fix the climate hoax.


If you think you're healthcare decisions aren't already being dictated to you, you're not paying attention.

Honestly, I absolutely would trust a government whose administration I could vote out over a CEO with a golden parachute.
Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset.

And by the way nobody's dictating my healthcare decisions but me. Because I pay for them. I choose my insurance provider and plan in a free market, and whatever they don't cover I pay for from the money I've earned. Not sure what you mean about not paying attention.


Most people do NOT "choose" their healthcare.

https://openmarketsinstitute.org/explainer/health-insurance-and-monopoly/


Ole sugar punk fairy BBL only addresses the 2nd paragraph w Socialist lies and not the 1st paragraph that identifies him

Par for BBL and any of his leftist Socialist friends
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bearassnekkid said:

BrooksBearLives said:

GrowlTowel said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
This isn't an opinion piece:

Where's the "free" part?

Tell me exactly where they said "free."
Every candidate's plan covers people who can't afford healthcare including those without income. So yeah it would go to illegals that can't pay.

Are you for it or against it?
I am 100% for providing healthcare for everyone as a human right. Absolutely. Having a healthy society/country is a baseline. People should not be falling dead in the streets. Providing healthcare through a plan would DRASTICALLY cut costs as people would 1. not clog emergency rooms, and 2. come in BEFORE they get desperate.

It will absolutely save money in the long run.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/03/health/undocumented-immigrants-health-care.html
Not sure what income you make, but if it's anywhere close to mine, you'll be paying $4k-6k more in taxes per year for Universal Healthcare.

Sucks for me because I only spend about $100 out of my own pocket on healthcare per year.

Then of course our tax cuts will be reversed and higher than they were under Obama.

But none of it will matter because every Candidate running is in support of banning fracking and that will destroy my career.

Any way you slice it, when Democrats get power...I am in deep financial trouble. Especially when you start adding in free college and massive expansions to welfare. Wouldn't surprise me to see median income earners paying more than half their salary in taxes at some point.
I'd pay more in taxes, but I wouldn't have to pay the $10K plus in insurance premiums.

I'd be okay with that.
Would you pay so much in taxes that you can't afford your home any longer?

What is your threshold?

Do you draw any lines with how large government can get and in what ways they can control our lives?
Do insurance companies control your life?
No, not at all.


I can tell you've never been very sick.

If insurance companies don't control your life, then how would the government replacing them control your life?


Pretty simple. People like you would dictate health care decisions. Although you have no medical training you would decide who lives and who dies.

Look no further than the Squad. Not a single one of them has a science degree but they "know" how to fix the climate hoax.


If you think you're healthcare decisions aren't already being dictated to you, you're not paying attention.

Honestly, I absolutely would trust a government whose administration I could vote out over a CEO with a golden parachute.
Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset.

And by the way nobody's dictating my healthcare decisions but me. Because I pay for them. I choose my insurance provider and plan in a free market, and whatever they don't cover I pay for from the money I've earned. Not sure what you mean about not paying attention.
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bearassnekkid said:
"Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset.

And by the way nobody's dictating my healthcare decisions but me. Because I pay for them. I choose my insurance provider and plan in a free market, and whatever they don't cover I pay for from the money I've earned. Not sure what you mean about not paying attention."


BBL "Most people do NOT "choose" their healthcare.

https://openmarketsinstitute.org/explainer/health-insurance-and-monopoly/"
I choose my supplemental under Medicare. I love Medicare and my supplemental
Government does not choose my healthcare. Govt says "If you want a certain treatment then this is what we will pay." That's not controlbut cost cutting.
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Waco1947 said:

bearassnekkid said:
"Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset.

And by the way nobody's dictating my healthcare decisions but me. Because I pay for them. I choose my insurance provider and plan in a free market, and whatever they don't cover I pay for from the money I've earned. Not sure what you mean about not paying attention."


BBL "Most people do NOT "choose" their healthcare.

https://openmarketsinstitute.org/explainer/health-insurance-and-monopoly/"
I choose my supplemental under Medicare. I love Medicare and my supplemental
Government does not choose my healthcare. Govt says "If you want a certain treatment then this is what we will pay." That's not controlbut cost cutting.
That's not how it works in other countries that have "socialized medicine." We'll pay, but you're on a waiting list for 8 months...see you then.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/06/13/if-universal-health-care-is-the-goal-dont-copy-canada/#1be8cee278d5

Aagin, why would I want to give control to the government. The VA, medicare, and medicaid are wrought with red-tape and abuse. Wait times are long and many have difficulty in finding doctors that take medicare/medicaid. The US health system is almost half of all global research.

What would we be sacrificing by having government take control over our health care? I'm trying to think of a program run by our federal government that is efficient AND that is not used as a political football...can't think of one.
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Waco1947
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Bearass: "Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset."

Yet you want women put "their trust in politicians/government" for their reproductive health. You are hypocritical.
You "would probably comfortable in a Doctors gop or socialist society" that makes healthcare decisions for womens' pregnancies.
Doc Holliday
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fadskier said:

Waco1947 said:

bearassnekkid said:
"Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset.

And by the way nobody's dictating my healthcare decisions but me. Because I pay for them. I choose my insurance provider and plan in a free market, and whatever they don't cover I pay for from the money I've earned. Not sure what you mean about not paying attention."


BBL "Most people do NOT "choose" their healthcare.

https://openmarketsinstitute.org/explainer/health-insurance-and-monopoly/"
I choose my supplemental under Medicare. I love Medicare and my supplemental
Government does not choose my healthcare. Govt says "If you want a certain treatment then this is what we will pay." That's not controlbut cost cutting.
That's not how it works in other countries that have "socialized medicine." We'll pay, but you're on a waiting list for 8 months...see you then.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/06/13/if-universal-health-care-is-the-goal-dont-copy-canada/#1be8cee278d5

Aagin, why would I want to give control to the government. The VA, medicare, and medicaid are wrought with red-tape and abuse. Wait times are long and many have difficulty in finding doctors that take medicare/medicaid. The US health system is almost half of all global research.

What would we be sacrificing by having government take control over our health care? I'm trying to think of a program run by our federal government that is efficient AND that is not used as a political football...can't think of one.
When we get Big Government healthcare and the crap that comes with it inevitably happens: Long wait lines, postponing, no choices, massive taxes, delays etc.

BBL would still pretend it's the best thing in the world.
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Waco1947 said:

Bearass: "Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset."

Yet you want women put "their trust in politicians/government" for their reproductive health. You are hypocritical.
You "would probably comfortable in a Doctors gop or socialist society" that makes healthcare decisions for womens' pregnancies.

No, we just want to put trust in women's ability to say no to sex and if they don't, then YES, we expect government to step in a save a life. After all, LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...

Abortion is not reproductive health...no matter how you spin it. In an abortion, there is no reproduction and there is a death every single time.
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Doc Holliday said:

fadskier said:

Waco1947 said:

bearassnekkid said:
"Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset.

And by the way nobody's dictating my healthcare decisions but me. Because I pay for them. I choose my insurance provider and plan in a free market, and whatever they don't cover I pay for from the money I've earned. Not sure what you mean about not paying attention."


BBL "Most people do NOT "choose" their healthcare.

https://openmarketsinstitute.org/explainer/health-insurance-and-monopoly/"
I choose my supplemental under Medicare. I love Medicare and my supplemental
Government does not choose my healthcare. Govt says "If you want a certain treatment then this is what we will pay." That's not controlbut cost cutting.
That's not how it works in other countries that have "socialized medicine." We'll pay, but you're on a waiting list for 8 months...see you then.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/06/13/if-universal-health-care-is-the-goal-dont-copy-canada/#1be8cee278d5

Aagin, why would I want to give control to the government. The VA, medicare, and medicaid are wrought with red-tape and abuse. Wait times are long and many have difficulty in finding doctors that take medicare/medicaid. The US health system is almost half of all global research.

What would we be sacrificing by having government take control over our health care? I'm trying to think of a program run by our federal government that is efficient AND that is not used as a political football...can't think of one.
When we get Big Government healthcare and the crap that comes with it inevitably happens: Long wait lines, postponing, no choices, massive taxes, delays etc.

BBL would still pretend it's the best thing in the world.
Think of healthcare as your last visit and the DMV...or talk to a veteran about their difficulties...or a elderly person whose doctor stopped taking medicare because of the paperwork.
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fadskier said:

bearassnekkid said:

BrooksBearLives said:

GrowlTowel said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
This isn't an opinion piece:

Where's the "free" part?

Tell me exactly where they said "free."
Every candidate's plan covers people who can't afford healthcare including those without income. So yeah it would go to illegals that can't pay.

Are you for it or against it?
I am 100% for providing healthcare for everyone as a human right. Absolutely. Having a healthy society/country is a baseline. People should not be falling dead in the streets. Providing healthcare through a plan would DRASTICALLY cut costs as people would 1. not clog emergency rooms, and 2. come in BEFORE they get desperate.

It will absolutely save money in the long run.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/03/health/undocumented-immigrants-health-care.html
Not sure what income you make, but if it's anywhere close to mine, you'll be paying $4k-6k more in taxes per year for Universal Healthcare.

Sucks for me because I only spend about $100 out of my own pocket on healthcare per year.

Then of course our tax cuts will be reversed and higher than they were under Obama.

But none of it will matter because every Candidate running is in support of banning fracking and that will destroy my career.

Any way you slice it, when Democrats get power...I am in deep financial trouble. Especially when you start adding in free college and massive expansions to welfare. Wouldn't surprise me to see median income earners paying more than half their salary in taxes at some point.
I'd pay more in taxes, but I wouldn't have to pay the $10K plus in insurance premiums.

I'd be okay with that.
Would you pay so much in taxes that you can't afford your home any longer?

What is your threshold?

Do you draw any lines with how large government can get and in what ways they can control our lives?
Do insurance companies control your life?
No, not at all.


I can tell you've never been very sick.

If insurance companies don't control your life, then how would the government replacing them control your life?


Pretty simple. People like you would dictate health care decisions. Although you have no medical training you would decide who lives and who dies.

Look no further than the Squad. Not a single one of them has a science degree but they "know" how to fix the climate hoax.


If you think you're healthcare decisions aren't already being dictated to you, you're not paying attention.

Honestly, I absolutely would trust a government whose administration I could vote out over a CEO with a golden parachute.
Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset.

And by the way nobody's dictating my healthcare decisions but me. Because I pay for them. I choose my insurance provider and plan in a free market, and whatever they don't cover I pay for from the money I've earned. Not sure what you mean about not paying attention.
BOOM! Nekkid owns BBL!
1. you would still pay for your healthcare decisions under medicare/medicaid
2. you would have MORE control because the government is responsive to YOU. CEO's are not.
3. insurance companies are ABSOLUTELY dictating decisions to you. There are so many actual examples of this, it is sincerely beyond count.
4. THIS IS NOT A FREE MARKET. Most of the country has ONE choice for insurance -and that's not decided by them, it's decided by their employer. But entire swaths of this country are covered only by insurance/healthcare monopolies. Free market at work!
5. This is what I meant by you "not paying attention."
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So back on topic (we can start a medicare discussion on another thread).

State Department Officials are now openly flouting Trump/Pompeo's directives and exercising their 1st amendment rights to talk to congress.

Sondland may help or be REALLY bad for the President.

Marie Yovanovitch will likely be pretty bad.

Given the President lost his appeal to keep his tax records hidden AND the Giuliani's buddies getting arrested last night (about to flip) after giving a TON of money to Kevin McCarthy...

It's not a great day for the President. It's all crumbling.
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BrooksBearLives said:

1. you would still pay for your healthcare decisions under medicare/medicaid
2. you would have MORE control because the government is responsive to YOU. CEO's are not.
3. insurance companies are ABSOLUTELY dictating decisions to you. There are so many actual examples of this, it is sincerely beyond count.
4. THIS IS NOT A FREE MARKET. Most of the country has ONE choice for insurance -and that's not decided by them, it's decided by their employer. But entire swaths of this country are covered only by insurance/healthcare monopolies. Free market at work!
5. This is what I meant by you "not paying attention."
Leave my private health care alone.

I know more about my health requirements than you. I prefer the free market to your assurances
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BrooksBearLives said:

So back on topic (we can start a medicare discussion on another thread).

State Department Officials are now openly flouting Trump/Pompeo's directives and exercising their 1st amendment rights to talk to congress.

Sondland may help or be REALLY bad for the President.

Marie Yovanovitch will likely be pretty bad.

Given the President lost his appeal to keep his tax records hidden AND the Giuliani's buddies getting arrested last night (about to flip) after giving a TON of money to Kevin McCarthy...

It's not a great day for the President. It's all crumbling.
Do you want civil war in this country?

Cause holding a closed impeachment and trying to remove a President that has 70 million supporters is a quick way to do that.
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BrooksBearLives said:

So trump denied knowing the two businessmen arrested today on charges.

But the proof says that's a lie....

It's not that hard to see how Trump, who has dinner with probably hundreds who donated to him, and who all line up to take a picture with him, might not know or remember all of them. Hardly "proof" of a lie.
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Waco1947 said:

Bearass: "Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset."

Yet you want women put "their trust in politicians/government" for their reproductive health. You are hypocritical.
You "would probably comfortable in a Doctors gop or socialist society" that makes healthcare decisions for womens' pregnancies.

This is incoherent drivel. I don't want women to "put their trust in government" for anything. I simply want a nation of law and order to prohibit the intentional killing of another human being. Pretty simple.

Also, in the event that you're an actual person and not just a clever sock for another poster who's doing this as part of the con, I will literally buy you lunch and pay you an additional $20 cash on top of it if you'll let me sit down with you and show you how to use the quote feature on this site.
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Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

So back on topic (we can start a medicare discussion on another thread).

State Department Officials are now openly flouting Trump/Pompeo's directives and exercising their 1st amendment rights to talk to congress.

Sondland may help or be REALLY bad for the President.

Marie Yovanovitch will likely be pretty bad.

Given the President lost his appeal to keep his tax records hidden AND the Giuliani's buddies getting arrested last night (about to flip) after giving a TON of money to Kevin McCarthy...

It's not a great day for the President. It's all crumbling.
Do you want civil war in this country?

Cause holding a closed impeachment and trying to remove a President that has 70 million supporters is a quick way to do that.


Crickets to this one from baby boy Socialist BBL
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BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

GrowlTowel said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

fadskier said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Osodecentx said:

BUmoneymaker said:

Trump supporters - it really is okay to change your mind you dont have to dig in your heels to save face. Its okay to support something better. You are alowed to speak up about his faults. Use your words. Practice makes progress.

Trump is a bully pos. For every buck he has in the bank he lacks a thousand brain cells. Also stfu with twitter you petulant pre-teen acting old bafoon. How embarrassing.



I do speak of Trump's faults. They are many and manifest.

Still looking for something better. Pathetic group of Democrats haven't stepped up.


What do you think of Buttigieg?
Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscator, favors reparations, open borders, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action,
Yikes. So you don't care about nuance. Got it.
I don't favor Medicare for all, free healthcare for illegal aliens, gun confiscation, reparations, open borders, abortion, affirmative action.

Nuanced enough?
Yeah, your charictarization of "open borders" "free healthcare for illegal aliens" "gun confiscation" etc. lets me know you're not a serious person. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I'm serious about that. Let me know when you want to have an intellectually honest conversation.


1. Open borders: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/do-democrats-want-to-be-the-open-borders-party

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-democrats-are-for-open-borders/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/

2. Free healthcare for all illegal aliens

https://wrko.iheart.com/featured/the-kuhner-report/content/2019-06-28-all-democrats-raise-their-hands-for-free-healthcare-for-illegals/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/healthcare-for-illegal-immigrants-all-10-democrats-raise-their-hand

https://www.westernjournal.com/1-issue-every-dem-debate-agreed-give-free-health-care-illegals/

3. Gun confiscation

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-want-to-take-your-guns

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/yes-they-are-coming-for-your-guns/

https://www.westernjournal.com/dems-who-dont-want-to-confiscate-your-guns-push-bill-to-confiscate-your-guns/

Democrats also support abortion up to birth and even afterwards.


Those are LITERALLY all opinion pieces and editorials. Almost none of them refer to Buttigieg.

You are not being intellectually honest. Take a breath.
This isn't an opinion piece:

Where's the "free" part?

Tell me exactly where they said "free."
Every candidate's plan covers people who can't afford healthcare including those without income. So yeah it would go to illegals that can't pay.

Are you for it or against it?
I am 100% for providing healthcare for everyone as a human right. Absolutely. Having a healthy society/country is a baseline. People should not be falling dead in the streets. Providing healthcare through a plan would DRASTICALLY cut costs as people would 1. not clog emergency rooms, and 2. come in BEFORE they get desperate.

It will absolutely save money in the long run.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/03/health/undocumented-immigrants-health-care.html
Not sure what income you make, but if it's anywhere close to mine, you'll be paying $4k-6k more in taxes per year for Universal Healthcare.

Sucks for me because I only spend about $100 out of my own pocket on healthcare per year.

Then of course our tax cuts will be reversed and higher than they were under Obama.

But none of it will matter because every Candidate running is in support of banning fracking and that will destroy my career.

Any way you slice it, when Democrats get power...I am in deep financial trouble. Especially when you start adding in free college and massive expansions to welfare. Wouldn't surprise me to see median income earners paying more than half their salary in taxes at some point.
I'd pay more in taxes, but I wouldn't have to pay the $10K plus in insurance premiums.

I'd be okay with that.
Would you pay so much in taxes that you can't afford your home any longer?

What is your threshold?

Do you draw any lines with how large government can get and in what ways they can control our lives?
Do insurance companies control your life?
No, not at all.


I can tell you've never been very sick.

If insurance companies don't control your life, then how would the government replacing them control your life?


Pretty simple. People like you would dictate health care decisions. Although you have no medical training you would decide who lives and who dies.

Look no further than the Squad. Not a single one of them has a science degree but they "know" how to fix the climate hoax.


If you think you're healthcare decisions aren't already being dictated to you, you're not paying attention.

Honestly, I absolutely would trust a government whose administration I could vote out over a CEO with a golden parachute.
Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset.

And by the way nobody's dictating my healthcare decisions but me. Because I pay for them. I choose my insurance provider and plan in a free market, and whatever they don't cover I pay for from the money I've earned. Not sure what you mean about not paying attention.
BOOM! Nekkid owns BBL!
1. you would still pay for your healthcare decisions under medicare/medicaid
2. you would have MORE control because the government is responsive to YOU. CEO's are not.
3. insurance companies are ABSOLUTELY dictating decisions to you. There are so many actual examples of this, it is sincerely beyond count.
4. THIS IS NOT A FREE MARKET. Most of the country has ONE choice for insurance -and that's not decided by them, it's decided by their employer. But entire swaths of this country are covered only by insurance/healthcare monopolies. Free market at work!
5. This is what I meant by you "not paying attention."


1. I will still pay for anything the government does, no matter how inefficient they are at it. Totally irrelevant. My point was that I am free to seek healthcare and medical insurance wherever I want. Because I'm a consumer in a free market. You would like big government to tell you what your coverage looks like, and you want everyone in society to pay for it.

2. The scary thing is I think you actually believe this statement. You think government is more responsive to consumers than the market is. This is a lunacy I barely even know how to engage. It is completely mind blowing to me that any human can actually think this. I would invite you to visit any drivers license office, county clerk's office, post office, county tax office, etc, and observe the long lines, horrible service, and total inefficiency and then tell me if that place would survive if it were in private business. They don't have to care because it's a government office and you have no choice. GTFO with some insane notion about government being more responsive. How in the hell can you possibly be serious with that?

3. No, they aren't. They are deciding what they cover, and in what amounts, based on the richness of benefit I've chosen to purchase. They literally aren't dictating a single thing to me.

4. No, the entire country has virtually unlimited choices for insurance. They don't have to take the insurance their employer is PAYING FOR ON THEIR BEHALF. They can go buy any policy they want. It's a matter of prioritizing spending, just like anything else. If they CHOOSE to accept the insurance their employer has selected and is paying for, then great. By the way, we now even have government mandating that employers provide and pay for worker's health insurance, which is disgusting in its own right. THAT is the part that goes against free market principles, and it's the part you probably like. Again, mind boggling to me.

5. Yeah, and that is where you were wrong. Again.
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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

So trump denied knowing the two businessmen arrested today on charges.

But the proof says that's a lie....

It's not that hard to see how Trump, who has dinner with probably hundreds who donated to him, and who all line up to take a picture with him, might not know or remember all of them. Hardly "proof" of a lie.
I could excuse this in isolation.

But the coziness with these guys AND with Giuliani, and considering these were the guys helping Giuliani out in Ukraine (which Trump was trying to set up meetings AND directing his diplomats like Sondland to set up meetings).


These weren't just two guys he met once or twice. They were close partners with Giuliani.
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BrooksBearLives said:

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

So trump denied knowing the two businessmen arrested today on charges.

But the proof says that's a lie....

It's not that hard to see how Trump, who has dinner with probably hundreds who donated to him, and who all line up to take a picture with him, might not know or remember all of them. Hardly "proof" of a lie.
I could excuse this in isolation.

But the coziness with these guys AND with Giuliani, and considering these were the guys helping Giuliani out in Ukraine (which Trump was trying to set up meetings AND directing his diplomats like Sondland to set up meetings).


These weren't just two guys he met once or twice. They were close partners with Giuliani.
How many times did he(Trump) meet with them?
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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

So trump denied knowing the two businessmen arrested today on charges.

But the proof says that's a lie....

It's not that hard to see how Trump, who has dinner with probably hundreds who donated to him, and who all line up to take a picture with him, might not know or remember all of them. Hardly "proof" of a lie.
I could excuse this in isolation.

But the coziness with these guys AND with Giuliani, and considering these were the guys helping Giuliani out in Ukraine (which Trump was trying to set up meetings AND directing his diplomats like Sondland to set up meetings).


These weren't just two guys he met once or twice. They were close partners with Giuliani.
How many times did he(Trump) meet with them?


At least twice (I believe 3 times confirmed). But they were also close confidants and partners with Giuliani, attending meetings with him in Ukraine (ordered by Trump). They were at the meetings Trump was talking about in the original transcript.

They were also connected to Rick Perry, Pete Sessions, and Kevin McCarthy. And the investigation has only just begun.

Oh. And look. Trump is already distancing himself form Giuliani (who is also now under investigation).

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curtpenn said:

quash said:

quash said:

curtpenn said:


I get it. You're a bright guy who earns his keep off of the hard-earned wages of others funneled into your institution. Sweet deal. I earned my keep by the sweat of my brow and by creating something almost from nothing while being forced to compete in a tough marketplace that determines winners and losers. All the time paying ever increasing taxes and fees to all sorts of entities for the "privilege" of competing while receiving virtually nothing in return and with no representation. Makers and takers, amigo.
My clients pay me with their hard earned wages. How do you get paid?
Hmm?
Didn't wish to derail this thread into a legal profession/system bashing one, but I can do that if you like.

You suggest there is something wrong with getting paid by people who work for a living. How do your clients pay you?
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bearassnekkid said:

Waco1947 said:

Bearass: "Pretty much sums it up. You put your trust in politicians/government and want them to take care of you. You would probably be comfortable in a dictatorship or a socialist society. I'm grateful our founders weren't like you, but I'm concerned today's society has become lazy enough to fall into this mindset."

Yet you want women put "their trust in politicians/government" for their reproductive health. You are hypocritical.
You "would probably comfortable in a Doctors gop or socialist society" that makes healthcare decisions for womens' pregnancies.

This is incoherent drivel. I don't want women to "put their trust in government" for anything. I simply want a nation of law and order to prohibit the intentional killing of another human being. Pretty simple.

Also, in the event that you're an actual person and not just a clever sock for another poster who's doing this as part of the con, I will literally buy you lunch and pay you an additional $20 cash on top of it if you'll let me sit down with you and show you how to use the quote feature on this site.
Yes, it is coherent. You want for yourself what would deny women with your pro life position.
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NOTHING TO SEE HERE, PEOPLE!

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https://www.newsweek.com/us-troops-syria-turkey-1464727?__twitter_impression=true&=1

Remember when Sam was talking about how Trump was bringing sanity to our foreign policy?

The good ol' days.
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BrooksBearLives said:

https://www.newsweek.com/us-troops-syria-turkey-1464727?__twitter_impression=true&=1

Remember when Sam was talking about how Trump was bringing sanity to our foreign policy?

The good ol' days.
Still talking about it today:

https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/53469
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Sam Lowry said:

BrooksBearLives said:

https://www.newsweek.com/us-troops-syria-turkey-1464727?__twitter_impression=true&=1

Remember when Sam was talking about how Trump was bringing sanity to our foreign policy?

The good ol' days.
Still talking about it today:

https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/53469



Isis prisoners running amok AND betrayal AND our special forces getting hit by Turkey?

Awesome AWESOME policy.
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You didn't give a **** about ISIS for 8 years. Go back to your 17 genders.
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Can't help but wonder if even 5% of the American people had even the slightest awareness of the Kurds 2 weeks ago .
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BrooksBearLives said:

Sam Lowry said:

BrooksBearLives said:

https://www.newsweek.com/us-troops-syria-turkey-1464727?__twitter_impression=true&=1

Remember when Sam was talking about how Trump was bringing sanity to our foreign policy?

The good ol' days.
Still talking about it today:

https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/53469



Isis prisoners running amok AND betrayal AND our special forces getting hit by Turkey?

Awesome AWESOME policy.
Truth ^^^^^^^^^
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Canada2017 said:

Can't help but wonder if even 5% of the American people had even the slightest awareness of the Kurds 2 weeks ago .
Immaterial and unchristian
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Waco1947 said:

Canada2017 said:

Can't help but wonder if even 5% of the American people had even the slightest awareness of the Kurds 2 weeks ago .
Immaterial and unchristian


Butt sex and abortions are though?
Canada2017
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Waco1947 said:

Canada2017 said:

Can't help but wonder if even 5% of the American people had even the slightest awareness of the Kurds 2 weeks ago .
Immaterial and unchristian


Totally relevant and you are a fraud .
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GrowlTowel said:

You didn't give a **** about ISIS for 8 years. Go back to your 17 genders.


What? Just... what?

I get that you're not overly concerned with being correct. But I never cared about ISIS? What are you talking about?

Go back to your obsession with genders, it's national coming out day. You can make your admission now.

If not... maybe next year?
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Canada2017 said:

Waco1947 said:

Canada2017 said:

Can't help but wonder if even 5% of the American people had even the slightest awareness of the Kurds 2 weeks ago .
Immaterial and unchristian


Totally relevant and you are a fraud .


No substance. Just an insult. You're better than this.
 
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