Waco1947 said:

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bearassnekkid said:

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Waco1947 said:

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BBL "Your ability to justify your own tribalism is feckless and disgusting.

You aren't pro-life. There is NO scenario where we benefit from not keeping our word to our allies. Not ONE. Our allies trust us less. Our enemies profit off our lack of fortitude.

You are disgusting. "
Sam you are sad. FM beyond hope.

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HOLY ***** DO YOU NOT SEE THE LITTLE QUOTATION MARKS AT THE BOTTOM OF A POST?

And if you want to put something in a quote box within your post, there is a little thought bubble icon at the top of your reply box (under the emojis and right next to the font icons). Please, for the love of everything holy, figure this out

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Huh? Remember according the FM I'm the village idiot. So huh? Figure out what "You're disgusting?"

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BrooksBearLives said:

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bearassnekkid said:

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Waco1947 said:

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BBL "Your ability to justify your own tribalism is feckless and disgusting.

You aren't pro-life. There is NO scenario where we benefit from not keeping our word to our allies. Not ONE. Our allies trust us less. Our enemies profit off our lack of fortitude.

You are disgusting. "
Sam you are sad. FM beyond hope.

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HOLY ***** DO YOU NOT SEE THE LITTLE QUOTATION MARKS AT THE BOTTOM OF A POST?

And if you want to put something in a quote box within your post, there is a little thought bubble icon at the top of your reply box (under the emojis and right next to the font icons). Please, for the love of everything holy, figure this out

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You get mad about the wrong things.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Axios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

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What action do you recommend?

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I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

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Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

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If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

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The Kurds are basically Antifa with guns...

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This is just pathetic. Shame on you. Because I know you are capable of so much more than this, it is sad to see you lower yourself to the level of posters who write things like this because they just don't know any better. Apparently, some conservatives have their own version of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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I'm capable of reading about Kurdish militia groups and their ideology. Maybe you should do the same.

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Go. ****. Yourself.

Your ability to justify your own tribalism is feckless and disgusting.

You aren't pro-life. There is NO scenario where we benefit from not keeping our word to our allies. Not ONE. Our allies trust us less. Our enemies profit off our lack of fortitude.

You are disgusting.

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This is disappointing. I thought we were having a civil discussion.

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The civil discussion ended when you endorsed genocide.

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Waco1947 said:

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BBL "Your ability to justify your own tribalism is feckless and disgusting.

You aren't pro-life. There is NO scenario where we benefit from not keeping our word to our allies. Not ONE. Our allies trust us less. Our enemies profit off our lack of fortitude.

You are disgusting. "
Sam you are sad. FM beyond hope.

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Waco1947 said:

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The President is an inept foreign policy leader. He is hurting us among allies and aiding Russia and Iran with his ill advised leaving of northern Syria.
And the civilian s and our troops? In harms way. Pray for them.

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GrowlTowel said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Axios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

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What action do you recommend?

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I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

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Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

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If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

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The Kurds are basically Antifa with guns...

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This is just pathetic. Shame on you. Because I know you are capable of so much more than this, it is sad to see you lower yourself to the level of posters who write things like this because they just don't know any better. Apparently, some conservatives have their own version of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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I'm capable of reading about Kurdish militia groups and their ideology. Maybe you should do the same.

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Go. ****. Yourself.

Your ability to justify your own tribalism is feckless and disgusting.

You aren't pro-life. There is NO scenario where we benefit from not keeping our word to our allies. Not ONE. Our allies trust us less. Our enemies profit off our lack of fortitude.

You are disgusting.

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This is disappointing. I thought we were having a civil discussion.

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Civil with BBL? Please. Guy is unhinged with TDS.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Axios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

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What action do you recommend?

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I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

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Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

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That's the hollow threat the Administration has chosen to go with. Trump threatened to "destroy Turkey's economy" with sanctions if they violated some vague and undefined terms of his "agreement" with Erdogan, and Mnuchin was on the Sunday shows this morning echoing that threat (but when asked what they are waiting for he got mealy mouthed and dodged the question). To be clear this is probably just meaningless bluster from Trump, because he saw how negative the response to this move was, and he wants to mitigate the impact of that with the people who are gullible enough to believe anything he says.

If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

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Are you recommending that we set up an independent Kurdistan and arm them with nukes?

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Nobody wants a proliferation of nukes. Please stop.

I would say we need to re-enter with military forces. Assuming there was some sort of agreement between Trump and Erdogan, we should enforce it through sanctions AND placement of soldiers.

Turkey doesn't want to kill our people. Should they do so, they would invite the condemnation and actions of what allies we have left.

But the BARE MINIMUM we should do is stop blocking the UN resolution condemning Turkey which only we and Russia are doing.

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That was Huck's idea. You tell him to stop

your idea (at least you put forth one)
1. military intervention
2. Increase sanctions against Turkey
3. don't block UN resolution

Is this your plan?

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1. Quit saying it's "military intervention" as if we weren't just in it.

There has to be at least a threat of it. Our president is a diplomatic ****up. First he gutted the state department, then he installed his cronies in there with no experience to push out the good diplomats that WERE there.

So a diplomatic solution won't be as effective as it should be.

But this idea that "oh well, nothing can be fixed" because me, a guy who isn't steeped in this can't fix it, is ****ING RIDICULOUS.

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What words would you prefer? We were just there and now we are not.

I was hoping we could discuss ideas. Trump screwed it up. What do you want him to do going forward?

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I would immediately be on Turkey. I would mash every button possible. I'd go full speed ahead on economic sanctions. I would lean on NATO and the UN. If they're exterminating Kurds -and they are- then perhaps they shouldn't be in NATO. I would lean on every country in the UN.

We HAVE to bring in military options because of the nukes we have in Turkey. Can't get around that.

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Since the Syrian civil war began in 2011, no country has felt the pain of the ensuing humanitarian crisis more severely than Turkey. We took in 3.6 million Syrian refugeesmore than any other countryand spent $40 billion to offer them education, health care and housing. Our culture of hospitality compelled us to shoulder the burden of hosting millions of war victims with very little help from the international community.
Yet at a certain point, Turkey reached its limit. My administration repeatedly warned that we would be unable to stop refugees from flooding into the West without international financial support. Those warnings fell on deaf ears as governments, eager to avoid responsibility, portrayed as a threat what was intended as a mere statement of fact.

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ATL Bear said:

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In the land of the crazies, the strongmen need to prevail for peace. Don't like Qaddafi? Look at Libya now. Assad needs to survive, and Turkey will be important to keep Iraq madness, including the Kurds, in check. It's unpopular because it will involve brutality, but the world needs the brutal actors so the West can feign outrage at tasks they would never stoop to participate in.

And how God awful of a take is it to think about military options against a NATO partner because they are beating up on a tribal rival they've had for decades.

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Osodecentx said:

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Turkey telling its side of the argument
Erdogan editorial this morning:

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Since the Syrian civil war began in 2011, no country has felt the pain of the ensuing humanitarian crisis more severely than Turkey. We took in 3.6 million Syrian refugeesmore than any other countryand spent $40 billion to offer them education, health care and housing. Our culture of hospitality compelled us to shoulder the burden of hosting millions of war victims with very little help from the international community.
Yet at a certain point, Turkey reached its limit. My administration repeatedly warned that we would be unable to stop refugees from flooding into the West without international financial support. Those warnings fell on deaf ears as governments, eager to avoid responsibility, portrayed as a threat what was intended as a mere statement of fact.

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Sam Lowry said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Axios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

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What action do you recommend?

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I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

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Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

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If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

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The Kurds are basically Antifa with guns...

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This is just pathetic. Shame on you. Because I know you are capable of so much more than this, it is sad to see you lower yourself to the level of posters who write things like this because they just don't know any better. Apparently, some conservatives have their own version of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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I'm capable of reading about Kurdish militia groups and their ideology. Maybe you should do the same.

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Go. ****. Yourself.

Your ability to justify your own tribalism is feckless and disgusting.

You aren't pro-life. There is NO scenario where we benefit from not keeping our word to our allies. Not ONE. Our allies trust us less. Our enemies profit off our lack of fortitude.

You are disgusting.

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This is disappointing. I thought we were having a civil discussion.

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The civil discussion ended when you endorsed genocide.

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I endorsed withdrawal from Syria. Emote all you want, but try not to lie.

And as for the thousands of Turks who've been killed by Kurdish terrorists? Are you unaware, or do you just feel you've feigned enough outrage for one day?

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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In the land of the crazies, the strongmen need to prevail for peace. Don't like Qaddafi? Look at Libya now. Assad needs to survive, and Turkey will be important to keep Iraq madness, including the Kurds, in check. It's unpopular because it will involve brutality, but the world needs the brutal actors so the West can feign outrage at tasks they would never stoop to participate in.

And how God awful of a take is it to think about military options against a NATO partner because they are beating up on a tribal rival they've had for decades.

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Who gets the 50 or so nukes in Turkey?

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ATL Bear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Axios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

---

What action do you recommend?

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I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

---

Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

---

That's the hollow threat the Administration has chosen to go with. Trump threatened to "destroy Turkey's economy" with sanctions if they violated some vague and undefined terms of his "agreement" with Erdogan, and Mnuchin was on the Sunday shows this morning echoing that threat (but when asked what they are waiting for he got mealy mouthed and dodged the question). To be clear this is probably just meaningless bluster from Trump, because he saw how negative the response to this move was, and he wants to mitigate the impact of that with the people who are gullible enough to believe anything he says.

If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

---

Are you recommending that we set up an independent Kurdistan and arm them with nukes?

---

Nobody wants a proliferation of nukes. Please stop.

I would say we need to re-enter with military forces. Assuming there was some sort of agreement between Trump and Erdogan, we should enforce it through sanctions AND placement of soldiers.

Turkey doesn't want to kill our people. Should they do so, they would invite the condemnation and actions of what allies we have left.

But the BARE MINIMUM we should do is stop blocking the UN resolution condemning Turkey which only we and Russia are doing.

---

That was Huck's idea. You tell him to stop

your idea (at least you put forth one)
1. military intervention
2. Increase sanctions against Turkey
3. don't block UN resolution

Is this your plan?

---

1. Quit saying it's "military intervention" as if we weren't just in it.

There has to be at least a threat of it. Our president is a diplomatic ****up. First he gutted the state department, then he installed his cronies in there with no experience to push out the good diplomats that WERE there.

So a diplomatic solution won't be as effective as it should be.

But this idea that "oh well, nothing can be fixed" because me, a guy who isn't steeped in this can't fix it, is ****ING RIDICULOUS.

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What words would you prefer? We were just there and now we are not.

I was hoping we could discuss ideas. Trump screwed it up. What do you want him to do going forward?

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I would immediately be on Turkey. I would mash every button possible. I'd go full speed ahead on economic sanctions. I would lean on NATO and the UN. If they're exterminating Kurds -and they are- then perhaps they shouldn't be in NATO. I would lean on every country in the UN.

We HAVE to bring in military options because of the nukes we have in Turkey. Can't get around that.

---

In the land of the crazies, the strongmen need to prevail for peace. Don't like Qaddafi? Look at Libya now. Assad needs to survive, and Turkey will be important to keep Iraq madness, including the Kurds, in check. It's unpopular because it will involve brutality, but the world needs the brutal actors so the West can feign outrage at tasks they would never stoop to participate in.

And how God awful of a take is it to think about military options against a NATO partner because they are beating up on a tribal rival they've had for decades.

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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In the land of the crazies, the strongmen need to prevail for peace. Don't like Qaddafi? Look at Libya now. Assad needs to survive, and Turkey will be important to keep Iraq madness, including the Kurds, in check. It's unpopular because it will involve brutality, but the world needs the brutal actors so the West can feign outrage at tasks they would never stoop to participate in.

And how God awful of a take is it to think about military options against a NATO partner because they are beating up on a tribal rival they've had for decades.

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Who gets the 50 or so nukes in Turkey?

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The same people that have them now, us. Or are you buying into the scare tactic to push us into another misguided military action in the region?

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BrooksBearLives said:

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ATL Bear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Axios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

---

What action do you recommend?

---

I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

---

Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

---

That's the hollow threat the Administration has chosen to go with. Trump threatened to "destroy Turkey's economy" with sanctions if they violated some vague and undefined terms of his "agreement" with Erdogan, and Mnuchin was on the Sunday shows this morning echoing that threat (but when asked what they are waiting for he got mealy mouthed and dodged the question). To be clear this is probably just meaningless bluster from Trump, because he saw how negative the response to this move was, and he wants to mitigate the impact of that with the people who are gullible enough to believe anything he says.

If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

---

Are you recommending that we set up an independent Kurdistan and arm them with nukes?

---

Nobody wants a proliferation of nukes. Please stop.

I would say we need to re-enter with military forces. Assuming there was some sort of agreement between Trump and Erdogan, we should enforce it through sanctions AND placement of soldiers.

Turkey doesn't want to kill our people. Should they do so, they would invite the condemnation and actions of what allies we have left.

But the BARE MINIMUM we should do is stop blocking the UN resolution condemning Turkey which only we and Russia are doing.

---

That was Huck's idea. You tell him to stop

your idea (at least you put forth one)
1. military intervention
2. Increase sanctions against Turkey
3. don't block UN resolution

Is this your plan?

---

1. Quit saying it's "military intervention" as if we weren't just in it.

There has to be at least a threat of it. Our president is a diplomatic ****up. First he gutted the state department, then he installed his cronies in there with no experience to push out the good diplomats that WERE there.

So a diplomatic solution won't be as effective as it should be.

But this idea that "oh well, nothing can be fixed" because me, a guy who isn't steeped in this can't fix it, is ****ING RIDICULOUS.

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What words would you prefer? We were just there and now we are not.

I was hoping we could discuss ideas. Trump screwed it up. What do you want him to do going forward?

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I would immediately be on Turkey. I would mash every button possible. I'd go full speed ahead on economic sanctions. I would lean on NATO and the UN. If they're exterminating Kurds -and they are- then perhaps they shouldn't be in NATO. I would lean on every country in the UN.

We HAVE to bring in military options because of the nukes we have in Turkey. Can't get around that.

---

In the land of the crazies, the strongmen need to prevail for peace. Don't like Qaddafi? Look at Libya now. Assad needs to survive, and Turkey will be important to keep Iraq madness, including the Kurds, in check. It's unpopular because it will involve brutality, but the world needs the brutal actors so the West can feign outrage at tasks they would never stoop to participate in.

And how God awful of a take is it to think about military options against a NATO partner because they are beating up on a tribal rival they've had for decades.

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These are rationalizations. Erdogan has moved Turkey SO FAR from the rational, operational democracy it was when they joined NATO.

They are NOT the good partners you're trying to make them out to be. Look no further than the fact they were SHELLING our soldiers to pressure them to leave.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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In the land of the crazies, the strongmen need to prevail for peace. Don't like Qaddafi? Look at Libya now. Assad needs to survive, and Turkey will be important to keep Iraq madness, including the Kurds, in check. It's unpopular because it will involve brutality, but the world needs the brutal actors so the West can feign outrage at tasks they would never stoop to participate in.

And how God awful of a take is it to think about military options against a NATO partner because they are beating up on a tribal rival they've had for decades.

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Who gets the 50 or so nukes in Turkey?

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The same people that have them now, us. Or are you buying into the scare tactic to push us into another misguided military action in the region?

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So you're saying Turkey can have our nukes?

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ATL Bear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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In the land of the crazies, the strongmen need to prevail for peace. Don't like Qaddafi? Look at Libya now. Assad needs to survive, and Turkey will be important to keep Iraq madness, including the Kurds, in check. It's unpopular because it will involve brutality, but the world needs the brutal actors so the West can feign outrage at tasks they would never stoop to participate in.

And how God awful of a take is it to think about military options against a NATO partner because they are beating up on a tribal rival they've had for decades.

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Who gets the 50 or so nukes in Turkey?

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The same people that have them now, us. Or are you buying into the scare tactic to push us into another misguided military action in the region?

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So you're saying Turkey can have our nukes?

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Yes, that's exactly what I said.....

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bearassnekkid said:

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Waco1947 said:

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bearassnekkid said:

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Waco1947 said:

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BBL "Your ability to justify your own tribalism is feckless and disgusting.

You aren't pro-life. There is NO scenario where we benefit from not keeping our word to our allies. Not ONE. Our allies trust us less. Our enemies profit off our lack of fortitude.

You are disgusting. "
Sam you are sad. FM beyond hope.

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HOLY ***** DO YOU NOT SEE THE LITTLE QUOTATION MARKS AT THE BOTTOM OF A POST?

And if you want to put something in a quote box within your post, there is a little thought bubble icon at the top of your reply box (under the emojis and right next to the font icons). Please, for the love of everything holy, figure this out

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Huh? Remember according the FM I'm the village idiot. So huh? Figure out what "You're disgusting?"

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That's better. Keep it up. You've only been asked about three thousand times.

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ATL Bear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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In the land of the crazies, the strongmen need to prevail for peace. Don't like Qaddafi? Look at Libya now. Assad needs to survive, and Turkey will be important to keep Iraq madness, including the Kurds, in check. It's unpopular because it will involve brutality, but the world needs the brutal actors so the West can feign outrage at tasks they would never stoop to participate in.

And how God awful of a take is it to think about military options against a NATO partner because they are beating up on a tribal rival they've had for decades.

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Who gets the 50 or so nukes in Turkey?

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The same people that have them now, us. Or are you buying into the scare tactic to push us into another misguided military action in the region?

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D. C. Bear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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ATL Bear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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In the land of the crazies, the strongmen need to prevail for peace. Don't like Qaddafi? Look at Libya now. Assad needs to survive, and Turkey will be important to keep Iraq madness, including the Kurds, in check. It's unpopular because it will involve brutality, but the world needs the brutal actors so the West can feign outrage at tasks they would never stoop to participate in.

And how God awful of a take is it to think about military options against a NATO partner because they are beating up on a tribal rival they've had for decades.

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Who gets the 50 or so nukes in Turkey?

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The same people that have them now, us. Or are you buying into the scare tactic to push us into another misguided military action in the region?

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So you're saying Turkey can have our nukes?

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Yes, that's exactly what I said.....

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So you're cool with nuclear proliferation in the Middle East/ North Africa?

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I think your sarcasm meter may require calibration.

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Hate to interrupt the discussion about the Kurds, but BrooksBear, you never answered me about the three confirmed times Trump met those guys.

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HuMcK said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Hate to interrupt the discussion about the Kurds, but BrooksBear, you never answered me about the three confirmed times Trump met those guys.

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BrooksBear? Should I consider your silence as an admission you were wrong or that you flat out lied?

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30 seconds on google tells me there are at least 2 known photos of the defendants with Trump Sr, and another photo of a private dinner between the defendants and Trump Jr. Other photos show them with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. Plus they were working with Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, hard to believe Trump wasn't at least aware of their existence.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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ATL Bear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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In the land of the crazies, the strongmen need to prevail for peace. Don't like Qaddafi? Look at Libya now. Assad needs to survive, and Turkey will be important to keep Iraq madness, including the Kurds, in check. It's unpopular because it will involve brutality, but the world needs the brutal actors so the West can feign outrage at tasks they would never stoop to participate in.

And how God awful of a take is it to think about military options against a NATO partner because they are beating up on a tribal rival they've had for decades.

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Who gets the 50 or so nukes in Turkey?

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The same people that have them now, us. Or are you buying into the scare tactic to push us into another misguided military action in the region?

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So you're saying Turkey can have our nukes?

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Yes, that's exactly what I said.....

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So you're cool with nuclear proliferation in the Middle East/ North Africa?

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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HuMcK said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Hate to interrupt the discussion about the Kurds, but BrooksBear, you never answered me about the three confirmed times Trump met those guys.

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BrooksBear? Should I consider your silence as an admission you were wrong or that you flat out lied?

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30 seconds on google tells me there are at least 2 known photos of the defendants with Trump Sr, and another photo of a private dinner between the defendants and Trump Jr. Other photos show them with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. Plus they were working with Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, hard to believe Trump wasn't at least aware of their existence.

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And 30 seconds of thinking rationally (at the most) should tell you that taking photos with someone, especially when you are a celebrity, doesn't necessarily mean you know them, and that Trump won't necessarily know everyone who his son and his lawyer associate with. The claim was made that Trump "lied" about not knowing those two guys, because he "met" with them a "confirmed" three times. I have not seen or read anything about that. Maybe you can help him out on that one. Hey, maybe Trump does know them, maybe he doesn't. But the facts you present don't necessarily prove it was a lie that Trump didn't know them.

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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HuMcK said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Hate to interrupt the discussion about the Kurds, but BrooksBear, you never answered me about the three confirmed times Trump met those guys.

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BrooksBear? Should I consider your silence as an admission you were wrong or that you flat out lied?

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30 seconds on google tells me there are at least 2 known photos of the defendants with Trump Sr, and another photo of a private dinner between the defendants and Trump Jr. Other photos show them with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. Plus they were working with Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, hard to believe Trump wasn't at least aware of their existence.

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And 30 seconds of thinking rationally (at the most) should tell you that taking photos with someone, especially when you are a celebrity, doesn't necessarily mean you know them, and that Trump won't necessarily know everyone who his son and his lawyer associate with. The claim was made that Trump "lied" about not knowing those two guys, because he "met" with them a "confirmed" three times. I have not seen or read anything about that. Maybe you can help him out on that one. Hey, maybe Trump does know them, maybe he doesn't. But the facts you present don't necessarily prove it was a lie that Trump didn't know them.

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