I vote my wallet, mostly! It's helpful not to have a morally bankrupt candidate, however. Getting harder to find as the far right is running the R's show and the R's just can't get any qualified candidates that are not kooks. It is a sad, sad state of affairs relative to whom both parties put out there. Give me some smart, business oriented people or governors that know how to run things and maintain a sense of dignity. Romney, Thune, Cheney, Larry Hogan ect. And stop with the Rino crap. I personally would much rather have folks like that than you nuts like Trump, Jim Jordan, Rand Paul et. al. That is just where I am. Those folks are talented and moderate (which we need more of , not the FRNJ fringe.Mothra said:I am not sure what that means. Do you mean you don't let your deeply held religious beliefs influence your vote? If so, how do you decide what candidates to vote for?J.R. said:again, I don't mix politics and religion. That is problematic to me.Mothra said:If one is truly Christian, it would be impossible to remove that hat in any area of your life. It should affect every decision you make - especially how you vote. We cannot put aside our identify in Christ, nor should we try.J.R. said:See this is the issue. I do identify as a Christian, but Christian and Republican could not be more different. You ok with Queen Lindsey Graham (Trump suck up..pardon the pun). George whomever is an R. Does he lead a Christlike existence. Grow up, get out of your comfort zone, trace, understand people.Wangchung said:I assumed you identified as a Christian, my apologies.J.R. said:Nope, here is the big difference between us and many on this board. I'm able to separate religion and politics.Wangchung said:Because that would violate your Christian faith? Welcome to under the rock I crawled out from. LolJ.R. said:I hear ya on the Dem's position. That is why I'm no DemocratMothra said:While I do not doubt that some individual R's are ok with abortion, and some D's are against it, you're once again making the mistake of focusing on individuals instead of the party's policies. The stated policy of the D party is to legalize abortion and expand access in every state and territory in the U.S., and in some instances, provide govt. funding of abortion. The stated policy of the R's is pro-life. That is what you SHOULD be focusing on, not some R you knew one time who supported abortion.J.R. said:the place place that many, many Republicans do. Dems have not cornered the market on "a woman's right to choose", I know tons of R's who are in this camp. For anyone to act as though the right to life debate is on Democratic is just foolish. Some of yall need to get out more.He Hate Me said:Where does the Democrat stand on killing the unborn?Osodecentx said:Is voting for a Democrat a sin?Wangchung said:Mothra disagrees with my premise. It's the first sentence of his post. I also never said one HAD to vote Republican in order to be a Christian.Osodecentx said:Mothra?Wangchung said:That is correct, I do state that voting democrats into power means you do not act in faith with Christian beliefs. When it comes to policy and rhetoric only one party is actively anti-Christian, they just disguise it by classifying the target of their hate as EvAnGeLiCaL Christians. Some might try to argue that a politician's personal life is as important here as their party's M.O. but short of corruption, only policy affects this country. That's how a Christian can hold their noses and vote for an orange yankee goon born with a platinum spoon in his mouth, because his policy is in line with our faith. I don't see killing babies as in line with the Christian faith, even if the democrats do other stuff, too.Osodecentx said:I think it is a fair reading of his posts to say Wang believes a person who votes for a Democrat isn't a Christian. Since you have admitted that you have voted for a couple of Democrats, I'd be interested in your opinion of Wang's posts.Mothra said:
I don't agree that one cannot be Christian and vote Democrat. However, given the current state of the Democrat Party, and its acceptance of rampant sexual immorality, infanticide, debauchery, and wokeism, I think you are a seriously misguided and deceived Christian if you could pull the trigger for a party that has by and large embraced ideas that are the antithesis of Christian beliefs. Either that, or in truth, you are one of the luke warms who doesn't really care all that strongly about the central tenets of the faith.
Now, the corollary to that is not that you must vote for the Republican if you are Christian. Nobody on this thread has said that, despite the Woke Redneck's stupid strawmen to the contrary. I know many Christians that couldn't pull the trigger for Trump, and simply sat out the election, or voted third party. At the time, I didn't agree with that decision, but I certainly respected it.
From Wangchung:
You don't know ANY Christians that vote Democrat. They might call themselves Christians but they aren't when they're enabling abortion. You mistake being weak in one's beliefs and going along to get along with actual Christianity. Watered down, participation ribbon version of Christ's teachings that feel good to say and allow you to attack actual Christians who show their faith through acts rather than virtue signals.
Old enough to know that voting to empower abortion means you're not a Christian. I'm sure there were good Nazis who didn't support EVERYTHING the National Socialist Party did, too, but they supported some terrible **** by not being single issue supporters.