The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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muddybrazos said:

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KaiBear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Sadly, we are here because of Trump. He threw out the first nuclear deal that Iran negotiated in good faith.

Iran came back to the table to negotiate a new deal with Trump. In good faith.

I believe Trump sees Bibi for what he is. But he's unable to rein him in. I do t see why Iran stays at the table.

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Why do you want Iran to have a nuke? Oh yeah, "from the river to the sea."

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I don't want them to have a nuke. We had a deal that allowed them to have nuclear energy but not a bomb.

Isreal and Trump killed that deal. I don't want Isreal to have a nuke, either. They have shown themselves to be an irresponsible neighbor.

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JFK agreed with you and it got him shot in the head.

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There is zero evidence Israel had anything to do with Kennedy's assassination.

The mafia, CiA and Castro are the legitimate suspects.

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It is a known fact that Kennedy had serious disagreements with Israel on the nuclear issue and that Israel viewed nuclear acquisition as vital. The newly published "President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board meeting of March 8-9, 1963" also provides information in this context. Here, CIA Director McCone is seen to be concerned about the nuclear developments in Israel and says that if they do not listen, economic reprisals will be necessary. It's understood that the Kennedy administration was going to prevent Israel from acquiring nuclear power. Therefore, it's a fact that Israel benefited from his assassination.

The importance of understanding the assassination issue correctly lies here. There is a deep structure in the U.S. that truly exploits the American people and their power in a hostile manner, and this structure puts Israel first, not America. Even if a president takes the opposite path, the end of the road is shown. Although the Kennedy case cannot be proven 100%, there are many indicators that it is connected to Israel.

Kennedy wouldnt give them the nukes and then he died. Probably just a coincidence. Bibi himself also said that Israel benefited from 9/11. Obviously just another coincidence that America went to war in the middle east to topple regimes that were laid out in the clean break memo.

Also, when you say its the "mafia" i gues you're assuming it was the Italia mafia but the Jewsih mafia was just as big as the Italians. Meyer Lansky was just as big as Lucky Luciano and they were partners. Jack Ruby owed money to people connected to Mickey Cohen as well so their are a lot of possible ties.

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What is it about conservatives and their susceptibility to conspiracy theories?

My Lord.

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What is it about leftists and their susceptibility to propaganda?

Dios Mio!

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I am honestly glad to hear from you. After last night, I thought you might do something crazy at a synagogue, or even to yourself.

Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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muddybrazos said:

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KaiBear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Sadly, we are here because of Trump. He threw out the first nuclear deal that Iran negotiated in good faith.

Iran came back to the table to negotiate a new deal with Trump. In good faith.

I believe Trump sees Bibi for what he is. But he's unable to rein him in. I do t see why Iran stays at the table.

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Why do you want Iran to have a nuke? Oh yeah, "from the river to the sea."

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I don't want them to have a nuke. We had a deal that allowed them to have nuclear energy but not a bomb.

Isreal and Trump killed that deal. I don't want Isreal to have a nuke, either. They have shown themselves to be an irresponsible neighbor.

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JFK agreed with you and it got him shot in the head.

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There is zero evidence Israel had anything to do with Kennedy's assassination.

The mafia, CiA and Castro are the legitimate suspects.

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It is a known fact that Kennedy had serious disagreements with Israel on the nuclear issue and that Israel viewed nuclear acquisition as vital. The newly published "President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board meeting of March 8-9, 1963" also provides information in this context. Here, CIA Director McCone is seen to be concerned about the nuclear developments in Israel and says that if they do not listen, economic reprisals will be necessary. It's understood that the Kennedy administration was going to prevent Israel from acquiring nuclear power. Therefore, it's a fact that Israel benefited from his assassination.

The importance of understanding the assassination issue correctly lies here. There is a deep structure in the U.S. that truly exploits the American people and their power in a hostile manner, and this structure puts Israel first, not America. Even if a president takes the opposite path, the end of the road is shown. Although the Kennedy case cannot be proven 100%, there are many indicators that it is connected to Israel.

Kennedy wouldnt give them the nukes and then he died. Probably just a coincidence. Bibi himself also said that Israel benefited from 9/11. Obviously just another coincidence that America went to war in the middle east to topple regimes that were laid out in the clean break memo.

Also, when you say its the "mafia" i gues you're assuming it was the Italia mafia but the Jewsih mafia was just as big as the Italians. Meyer Lansky was just as big as Lucky Luciano and they were partners. Jack Ruby owed money to people connected to Mickey Cohen as well so their are a lot of possible ties.

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What is it about conservatives and their susceptibility to conspiracy theories?

My Lord.

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What is it about leftists and their susceptibility to propaganda?

Dios Mio!

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I am honestly glad to hear from you. After last night, I thought you might do something crazy at a synagogue, or even to yourself.

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Your concern is duly noted...

The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Sadly, we are here because of Trump. He threw out the first nuclear deal that Iran negotiated in good faith.

Iran came back to the table to negotiate a new deal with Trump. In good faith.

I believe Trump sees Bibi for what he is. But he's unable to rein him in. I do t see why Iran stays at the table.

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Why do you want Iran to have a nuke? Oh yeah, "from the river to the sea."

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I don't want them to have a nuke. We had a deal that allowed them to have nuclear energy but not a bomb.

Isreal and Trump killed that deal. I don't want Isreal to have a nuke, either. They have shown themselves to be an irresponsible neighbor.

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JFK agreed with you and it got him shot in the head.

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There is zero evidence Israel had anything to do with Kennedy's assassination.

The mafia, CiA and Castro are the legitimate suspects.

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Some of these dudes are straight anti-Semite bomb throwers. You have to be really hard up to be an Iranian sympathizer.

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Don't check any Millennials or Gen Z opinion polls towards Israel or your Gen X heart might give out.

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There is some truth to this.

Hopefully Israel can secure a lasting peace asap.

Because as we old folks die off US support is going to weaken dramatically.

KaiBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Sadly, we are here because of Trump. He threw out the first nuclear deal that Iran negotiated in good faith.

Iran came back to the table to negotiate a new deal with Trump. In good faith.

I believe Trump sees Bibi for what he is. But he's unable to rein him in. I do t see why Iran stays at the table.

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Why do you want Iran to have a nuke? Oh yeah, "from the river to the sea."

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I don't want them to have a nuke. We had a deal that allowed them to have nuclear energy but not a bomb.

Isreal and Trump killed that deal. I don't want Isreal to have a nuke, either. They have shown themselves to be an irresponsible neighbor.

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JFK agreed with you and it got him shot in the head.

---

There is zero evidence Israel had anything to do with Kennedy's assassination.

The mafia, CiA and Castro are the legitimate suspects.

---

Some of these dudes are straight anti-Semite bomb throwers. You have to be really hard up to be an Iranian sympathizer.

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Don't check any Millennials or Gen Z opinion polls towards Israel or your Gen X heart might give out.

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There is some truth to this.

Hopefully Israel can secure a lasting peace asap.

Because as we old folks die off US support is going to weaken dramatically.

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I think they'll be fine.

They literally spent my entire life buying off and playing Boomers into giving over their children and grandchildren's inheritance to them.

They already bankrupted the country for Israel. By the time Millennials or Gen Z have any power there won't be anything left to steal.

The_barBEARian said:

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KaiBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Sadly, we are here because of Trump. He threw out the first nuclear deal that Iran negotiated in good faith.

Iran came back to the table to negotiate a new deal with Trump. In good faith.

I believe Trump sees Bibi for what he is. But he's unable to rein him in. I do t see why Iran stays at the table.

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Why do you want Iran to have a nuke? Oh yeah, "from the river to the sea."

---

I don't want them to have a nuke. We had a deal that allowed them to have nuclear energy but not a bomb.

Isreal and Trump killed that deal. I don't want Isreal to have a nuke, either. They have shown themselves to be an irresponsible neighbor.

---

JFK agreed with you and it got him shot in the head.

---

There is zero evidence Israel had anything to do with Kennedy's assassination.

The mafia, CiA and Castro are the legitimate suspects.

---

Some of these dudes are straight anti-Semite bomb throwers. You have to be really hard up to be an Iranian sympathizer.

---

Don't check any Millennials or Gen Z opinion polls towards Israel or your Gen X heart might give out.

---

There is some truth to this.

Hopefully Israel can secure a lasting peace asap.

Because as we old folks die off US support is going to weaken dramatically.

---

I think they'll be fine.

They literally spent my entire life buying off and playing Boomers into giving over their children and grandchildren's inheritance to them.

They already bankrupted the country for Israel. By the time Millennials or Gen Z have any power there won't be anything left to steal.

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It is really tragic that those dirty Jews took away your wealth, and are responsible for the destitute state you now find yourself in.

Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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KaiBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Sadly, we are here because of Trump. He threw out the first nuclear deal that Iran negotiated in good faith.

Iran came back to the table to negotiate a new deal with Trump. In good faith.

I believe Trump sees Bibi for what he is. But he's unable to rein him in. I do t see why Iran stays at the table.

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Why do you want Iran to have a nuke? Oh yeah, "from the river to the sea."

---

I don't want them to have a nuke. We had a deal that allowed them to have nuclear energy but not a bomb.

Isreal and Trump killed that deal. I don't want Isreal to have a nuke, either. They have shown themselves to be an irresponsible neighbor.

---

JFK agreed with you and it got him shot in the head.

---

There is zero evidence Israel had anything to do with Kennedy's assassination.

The mafia, CiA and Castro are the legitimate suspects.

---

Some of these dudes are straight anti-Semite bomb throwers. You have to be really hard up to be an Iranian sympathizer.

---

Don't check any Millennials or Gen Z opinion polls towards Israel or your Gen X heart might give out.

---

There is some truth to this.

Hopefully Israel can secure a lasting peace asap.

Because as we old folks die off US support is going to weaken dramatically.

---

I think they'll be fine.

They literally spent my entire life buying off and playing Boomers into giving over their children and grandchildren's inheritance to them.

They already bankrupted the country for Israel. By the time Millennials or Gen Z have any power there won't be anything left to steal.

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It is really tragic that those dirty Jews took away your wealth, and are responsible for the destitute state you now find yourself in.

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Careful... you are starting to sound pretty based.

The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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KaiBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Sadly, we are here because of Trump. He threw out the first nuclear deal that Iran negotiated in good faith.

Iran came back to the table to negotiate a new deal with Trump. In good faith.

I believe Trump sees Bibi for what he is. But he's unable to rein him in. I do t see why Iran stays at the table.

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Why do you want Iran to have a nuke? Oh yeah, "from the river to the sea."

---

I don't want them to have a nuke. We had a deal that allowed them to have nuclear energy but not a bomb.

Isreal and Trump killed that deal. I don't want Isreal to have a nuke, either. They have shown themselves to be an irresponsible neighbor.

---

JFK agreed with you and it got him shot in the head.

---

There is zero evidence Israel had anything to do with Kennedy's assassination.

The mafia, CiA and Castro are the legitimate suspects.

---

Some of these dudes are straight anti-Semite bomb throwers. You have to be really hard up to be an Iranian sympathizer.

---

Don't check any Millennials or Gen Z opinion polls towards Israel or your Gen X heart might give out.

---

There is some truth to this.

Hopefully Israel can secure a lasting peace asap.

Because as we old folks die off US support is going to weaken dramatically.

---

I think they'll be fine.

They literally spent my entire life buying off and playing Boomers into giving over their children and grandchildren's inheritance to them.

They already bankrupted the country for Israel. By the time Millennials or Gen Z have any power there won't be anything left to steal.

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It is really tragic that those dirty Jews took away your wealth, and are responsible for the destitute state you now find yourself in.

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Careful... you are starting to sound pretty based.

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Well, you would know, Mr. F-Bomb.

Rod Dreher- [So, it's on between Israel and Iran. Things are moving so fast that by the time I send this dispatch, God only knows what else will have happened. The things to keep in mind are these:

• Iran, a country ruled by Islamist fanatics, has long signaled its intention to destroy Israel. Not to live in peace with Israel, but to destroy it.
• It has shown its willingness to do so by subsidizing the Hezbollah terrorist army in Lebanon. Israel destroyed that terror proxy.
• Iran has also openly supported Hamas, financially and otherwise, since the 1990s, as part of its regional war against Israel. The October 7 massacre showed Iran's willingness to sponsor a 9/11-style mass terror attack on Israeli citizens.
• Israel judged correctly in my view that Iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to itself. Yesterday the IAEA said that Iran has not been living up to its commitments to curb its nuclear research meaning that the Tehran government's word cannot be trusted.

I wish it had not come to this. I went to bed last night praying that it wouldn't. It was always going to come to this, though, as long as Iran is ruled by the Islamists. The threat a nuclear-armed Iran would have posed to Israel was and is undeniable. Expecting the Israelis, or any other nation so targeted by Iran, to remain idle and hope for the best was totally unrealistic. Given that the Iranian government has for many years been openly stating that its goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, there is only one obvious reason for Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

I hope the Israelis succeeded in their mission goal. The Natanz nuclear enrichment site appears to have been destroyed. The Israelis wiped out the entire senior leadership of the Islamic Republic, save for Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran reports the deaths of at least six of its nuclear scientists; there are probably more.
The retaliation against Israel by Iran will be severe. Happily, now that Hezbollah and Hamas have been deactivated by the IDF, Israel will have less to worry about. But there will be massive drone strikes against Israeli cities. If you fear a regional war, then you should be aware that there is no chance that Arab states will come in on Iran's side. The Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shia; the Arab states have long been afraid of Iran's regional hegemony. Whatever they say for public consumption, you can be sure that there is great relief in the governments of the Gulf Arab states today.

There will be Iranian-sponsored attacks on US interests in the Middle East. What we have to hope for is that the Iranians won't be foolish enough to provoke Washington to come into the war on Israel's side. In my view, Trump will only involve the US in this conflict if the Iranians attack American interests, either directly or via terrorist proxy. If Tehran does provoke Washington in this way, then the US military will be end the Islamist regime in Iran. I hope and pray it does not come to that we do not need to be involved in another Mideast war! but if Iran attacks us, we will have no choice.]

Redbrickbear said:

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Rod Dreher- [So, it's on between Israel and Iran. Things are moving so fast that by the time I send this dispatch, God only knows what else will have happened. The things to keep in mind are these:

• Iran, a country ruled by Islamist fanatics, has long signaled its intention to destroy Israel. Not to live in peace with Israel, but to destroy it.
• It has shown its willingness to do so by subsidizing the Hezbollah terrorist army in Lebanon. Israel destroyed that terror proxy.
• Iran has also openly supported Hamas, financially and otherwise, since the 1990s, as part of its regional war against Israel. The October 7 massacre showed Iran's willingness to sponsor a 9/11-style mass terror attack on Israeli citizens.
• Israel judged correctly in my view that Iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to itself. Yesterday the IAEA said that Iran has not been living up to its commitments to curb its nuclear research meaning that the Tehran government's word cannot be trusted.

I wish it had not come to this. I went to bed last night praying that it wouldn't. It was always going to come to this, though, as long as Iran is ruled by the Islamists. The threat a nuclear-armed Iran would have posed to Israel was and is undeniable. Expecting the Israelis, or any other nation so targeted by Iran, to remain idle and hope for the best was totally unrealistic. Given that the Iranian government has for many years been openly stating that its goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, there is only one obvious reason for Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

I hope the Israelis succeeded in their mission goal. The Natanz nuclear enrichment site appears to have been destroyed. The Israelis wiped out the entire senior leadership of the Islamic Republic, save for Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran reports the deaths of at least six of its nuclear scientists; there are probably more.
The retaliation against Israel by Iran will be severe. Happily, now that Hezbollah and Hamas have been deactivated by the IDF, Israel will have less to worry about. But there will be massive drone strikes against Israeli cities. If you fear a regional war, then you should be aware that there is no chance that Arab states will come in on Iran's side. The Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shia; the Arab states have long been afraid of Iran's regional hegemony. Whatever they say for public consumption, you can be sure that there is great relief in the governments of the Gulf Arab states today.

There will be Iranian-sponsored attacks on US interests in the Middle East. What we have to hope for is that the Iranians won't be foolish enough to provoke Washington to come into the war on Israel's side. In my view, Trump will only involve the US in this conflict if the Iranians attack American interests, either directly or via terrorist proxy. If Tehran does provoke Washington in this way, then the US military will be end the Islamist regime in Iran. I hope and pray it does not come to that we do not need to be involved in another Mideast war! but if Iran attacks us, we will have no choice.]

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Two points...

1) the head of the IAEA is an Israeli asset... so that entire organization is as compromised as our Federal Government.

2) The US military has already entered into this conflict and shot down some of the Iranian drones.

The one part I am actually looking forward to in all this is that the cowardly, corrupt Gulf Arabs are all next for Israeli expansion ALL of Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria are within the territorial ambitions of Greater Israel along with portions of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.

One other point... you talk about Iran being ruled by Islamist fanatics but Israel is ruled by Zionist fanatics who literally view American gentiles as cattle. Satanyahu is on tape saying as much many years ago.

Don't fall into the Boomer narrative that Israel are the "good guys". They are every bit as psychotic as Iran and a much bigger threat to all Americans but even more so Anglo Americans like you and I.

The_barBEARian said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Rod Dreher- [So, it's on between Israel and Iran. Things are moving so fast that by the time I send this dispatch, God only knows what else will have happened. The things to keep in mind are these:

• Iran, a country ruled by Islamist fanatics, has long signaled its intention to destroy Israel. Not to live in peace with Israel, but to destroy it.
• It has shown its willingness to do so by subsidizing the Hezbollah terrorist army in Lebanon. Israel destroyed that terror proxy.
• Iran has also openly supported Hamas, financially and otherwise, since the 1990s, as part of its regional war against Israel. The October 7 massacre showed Iran's willingness to sponsor a 9/11-style mass terror attack on Israeli citizens.
• Israel judged correctly in my view that Iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to itself. Yesterday the IAEA said that Iran has not been living up to its commitments to curb its nuclear research meaning that the Tehran government's word cannot be trusted.

I wish it had not come to this. I went to bed last night praying that it wouldn't. It was always going to come to this, though, as long as Iran is ruled by the Islamists. The threat a nuclear-armed Iran would have posed to Israel was and is undeniable. Expecting the Israelis, or any other nation so targeted by Iran, to remain idle and hope for the best was totally unrealistic. Given that the Iranian government has for many years been openly stating that its goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, there is only one obvious reason for Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

I hope the Israelis succeeded in their mission goal. The Natanz nuclear enrichment site appears to have been destroyed. The Israelis wiped out the entire senior leadership of the Islamic Republic, save for Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran reports the deaths of at least six of its nuclear scientists; there are probably more.
The retaliation against Israel by Iran will be severe. Happily, now that Hezbollah and Hamas have been deactivated by the IDF, Israel will have less to worry about. But there will be massive drone strikes against Israeli cities. If you fear a regional war, then you should be aware that there is no chance that Arab states will come in on Iran's side. The Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shia; the Arab states have long been afraid of Iran's regional hegemony. Whatever they say for public consumption, you can be sure that there is great relief in the governments of the Gulf Arab states today.

There will be Iranian-sponsored attacks on US interests in the Middle East. What we have to hope for is that the Iranians won't be foolish enough to provoke Washington to come into the war on Israel's side. In my view, Trump will only involve the US in this conflict if the Iranians attack American interests, either directly or via terrorist proxy. If Tehran does provoke Washington in this way, then the US military will be end the Islamist regime in Iran. I hope and pray it does not come to that we do not need to be involved in another Mideast war! but if Iran attacks us, we will have no choice.]

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Two points...



The one part I am actually looking forward to in all this is that the cowardly, corrupt Gulf Arabs are all next for Israeli expansion ALL of Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria are within the territorial ambitions of Greater Israel along with portions of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.

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Amusing

Might as well claim Israel has intentions towards annexing Los Angeles.

The_barBEARian said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Rod Dreher- [So, it's on between Israel and Iran. Things are moving so fast that by the time I send this dispatch, God only knows what else will have happened. The things to keep in mind are these:

• Iran, a country ruled by Islamist fanatics, has long signaled its intention to destroy Israel. Not to live in peace with Israel, but to destroy it.
• It has shown its willingness to do so by subsidizing the Hezbollah terrorist army in Lebanon. Israel destroyed that terror proxy.
• Iran has also openly supported Hamas, financially and otherwise, since the 1990s, as part of its regional war against Israel. The October 7 massacre showed Iran's willingness to sponsor a 9/11-style mass terror attack on Israeli citizens.
• Israel judged correctly in my view that Iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to itself. Yesterday the IAEA said that Iran has not been living up to its commitments to curb its nuclear research meaning that the Tehran government's word cannot be trusted.

I wish it had not come to this. I went to bed last night praying that it wouldn't. It was always going to come to this, though, as long as Iran is ruled by the Islamists. The threat a nuclear-armed Iran would have posed to Israel was and is undeniable. Expecting the Israelis, or any other nation so targeted by Iran, to remain idle and hope for the best was totally unrealistic. Given that the Iranian government has for many years been openly stating that its goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, there is only one obvious reason for Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

I hope the Israelis succeeded in their mission goal. The Natanz nuclear enrichment site appears to have been destroyed. The Israelis wiped out the entire senior leadership of the Islamic Republic, save for Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran reports the deaths of at least six of its nuclear scientists; there are probably more.
The retaliation against Israel by Iran will be severe. Happily, now that Hezbollah and Hamas have been deactivated by the IDF, Israel will have less to worry about. But there will be massive drone strikes against Israeli cities. If you fear a regional war, then you should be aware that there is no chance that Arab states will come in on Iran's side. The Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shia; the Arab states have long been afraid of Iran's regional hegemony. Whatever they say for public consumption, you can be sure that there is great relief in the governments of the Gulf Arab states today.

There will be Iranian-sponsored attacks on US interests in the Middle East. What we have to hope for is that the Iranians won't be foolish enough to provoke Washington to come into the war on Israel's side. In my view, Trump will only involve the US in this conflict if the Iranians attack American interests, either directly or via terrorist proxy. If Tehran does provoke Washington in this way, then the US military will be end the Islamist regime in Iran. I hope and pray it does not come to that we do not need to be involved in another Mideast war! but if Iran attacks us, we will have no choice.]

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Two points...

1) the head of the IAEA is an Israeli asset... so that entire organization is as compromised as our Federal Government.

2) The US military has already entered into this conflict and shot down some of the Iranian drones.

The one part I am actually looking forward to in all this is that the cowardly, corrupt Gulf Arabs are all next for Israeli expansion ALL of Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria are within the territorial ambitions of Greater Israel along with portions of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.

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Lmao.

KaiBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Rod Dreher- [So, it's on between Israel and Iran. Things are moving so fast that by the time I send this dispatch, God only knows what else will have happened. The things to keep in mind are these:

• Iran, a country ruled by Islamist fanatics, has long signaled its intention to destroy Israel. Not to live in peace with Israel, but to destroy it.
• It has shown its willingness to do so by subsidizing the Hezbollah terrorist army in Lebanon. Israel destroyed that terror proxy.
• Iran has also openly supported Hamas, financially and otherwise, since the 1990s, as part of its regional war against Israel. The October 7 massacre showed Iran's willingness to sponsor a 9/11-style mass terror attack on Israeli citizens.
• Israel judged correctly in my view that Iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to itself. Yesterday the IAEA said that Iran has not been living up to its commitments to curb its nuclear research meaning that the Tehran government's word cannot be trusted.

I wish it had not come to this. I went to bed last night praying that it wouldn't. It was always going to come to this, though, as long as Iran is ruled by the Islamists. The threat a nuclear-armed Iran would have posed to Israel was and is undeniable. Expecting the Israelis, or any other nation so targeted by Iran, to remain idle and hope for the best was totally unrealistic. Given that the Iranian government has for many years been openly stating that its goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, there is only one obvious reason for Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

I hope the Israelis succeeded in their mission goal. The Natanz nuclear enrichment site appears to have been destroyed. The Israelis wiped out the entire senior leadership of the Islamic Republic, save for Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran reports the deaths of at least six of its nuclear scientists; there are probably more.
The retaliation against Israel by Iran will be severe. Happily, now that Hezbollah and Hamas have been deactivated by the IDF, Israel will have less to worry about. But there will be massive drone strikes against Israeli cities. If you fear a regional war, then you should be aware that there is no chance that Arab states will come in on Iran's side. The Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shia; the Arab states have long been afraid of Iran's regional hegemony. Whatever they say for public consumption, you can be sure that there is great relief in the governments of the Gulf Arab states today.

There will be Iranian-sponsored attacks on US interests in the Middle East. What we have to hope for is that the Iranians won't be foolish enough to provoke Washington to come into the war on Israel's side. In my view, Trump will only involve the US in this conflict if the Iranians attack American interests, either directly or via terrorist proxy. If Tehran does provoke Washington in this way, then the US military will be end the Islamist regime in Iran. I hope and pray it does not come to that we do not need to be involved in another Mideast war! but if Iran attacks us, we will have no choice.]

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Two points...



The one part I am actually looking forward to in all this is that the cowardly, corrupt Gulf Arabs are all next for Israeli expansion ALL of Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria are within the territorial ambitions of Greater Israel along with portions of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.

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Amusing

Might as well claim Israel has intentions towards annexing Los Angeles.

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Be careful with what you suggest. He probably will.

The_barBEARian said:

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One other point... you talk about Iran being ruled by Islamist fanatics but Israel is ruled by Zionist fanatics who literally view American gentiles as cattle. Satanyahu is on tape saying as much many years ago.

Don't fall into the Boomer narrative that Israel are the "good guys". They are every bit as psychotic as Iran and a much bigger threat to all Americans but even more so Anglo Americans like you and I.

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What's even more crazy about this post than the content is some dumb ass liked it.

The_barBEARian said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Rod Dreher- [So, it's on between Israel and Iran. Things are moving so fast that by the time I send this dispatch, God only knows what else will have happened. The things to keep in mind are these:

• Iran, a country ruled by Islamist fanatics, has long signaled its intention to destroy Israel. Not to live in peace with Israel, but to destroy it.
• It has shown its willingness to do so by subsidizing the Hezbollah terrorist army in Lebanon. Israel destroyed that terror proxy.
• Iran has also openly supported Hamas, financially and otherwise, since the 1990s, as part of its regional war against Israel. The October 7 massacre showed Iran's willingness to sponsor a 9/11-style mass terror attack on Israeli citizens.
• Israel judged correctly in my view that Iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to itself. Yesterday the IAEA said that Iran has not been living up to its commitments to curb its nuclear research meaning that the Tehran government's word cannot be trusted.

I wish it had not come to this. I went to bed last night praying that it wouldn't. It was always going to come to this, though, as long as Iran is ruled by the Islamists. The threat a nuclear-armed Iran would have posed to Israel was and is undeniable. Expecting the Israelis, or any other nation so targeted by Iran, to remain idle and hope for the best was totally unrealistic. Given that the Iranian government has for many years been openly stating that its goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, there is only one obvious reason for Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

I hope the Israelis succeeded in their mission goal. The Natanz nuclear enrichment site appears to have been destroyed. The Israelis wiped out the entire senior leadership of the Islamic Republic, save for Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran reports the deaths of at least six of its nuclear scientists; there are probably more.
The retaliation against Israel by Iran will be severe. Happily, now that Hezbollah and Hamas have been deactivated by the IDF, Israel will have less to worry about. But there will be massive drone strikes against Israeli cities. If you fear a regional war, then you should be aware that there is no chance that Arab states will come in on Iran's side. The Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shia; the Arab states have long been afraid of Iran's regional hegemony. Whatever they say for public consumption, you can be sure that there is great relief in the governments of the Gulf Arab states today.

There will be Iranian-sponsored attacks on US interests in the Middle East. What we have to hope for is that the Iranians won't be foolish enough to provoke Washington to come into the war on Israel's side. In my view, Trump will only involve the US in this conflict if the Iranians attack American interests, either directly or via terrorist proxy. If Tehran does provoke Washington in this way, then the US military will be end the Islamist regime in Iran. I hope and pray it does not come to that we do not need to be involved in another Mideast war! but if Iran attacks us, we will have no choice.]

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Two points...

1) the head of the IAEA is an Israeli asset... so that entire organization is as compromised as our Federal Government.

2) The US military has already entered into this conflict and shot down some of the Iranian drones.

The one part I am actually looking forward to in all this is that the cowardly, corrupt Gulf Arabs are all next for Israeli expansion ALL of Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria are within the territorial ambitions of Greater Israel along with portions of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.

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One other point... you talk about Iran being ruled by Islamist fanatics but Israel is ruled by Zionist fanatics who literally view American gentiles as cattle. Satanyahu is on tape saying as much many years ago.

Don't fall into the Boomer narrative that Israel are the "good guys". They are every bit as psychotic as Iran and a much bigger threat to all Americans but even more so Anglo Americans like you and I.

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What's even more crazy about this post than the content is some dumb ass liked it.

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I do find it interesting that some of you good RWNJs are objectively opposed to us getting in any skirmish in the ME, but buy helping Izzy should down Iranian drones and missiles is quite ok. Let Izzy go at it alone.

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One other point... you talk about Iran being ruled by Islamist fanatics but Israel is ruled by Zionist fanatics who literally view American gentiles as cattle. Satanyahu is on tape saying as much many years ago.

Don't fall into the Boomer narrative that Israel are the "good guys". They are every bit as psychotic as Iran and a much bigger threat to all Americans but even more so Anglo Americans like you and I.

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What's even more crazy about this post than the content is some dumb ass liked it.

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It was junior.

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Just today Trump literally said something like "Israel strike might make the deal more difficult. Or it might make it easier,who knows"

Doesn't sound like a guy that hated the idea

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It sounds like a guy that will play the cards he's dealt.

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I do find it interesting that some of you good RWNJs are objectively opposed to us getting in any skirmish in the ME, but buy helping Izzy should down Iranian drones and missiles is quite ok. Let Izzy go at it alone.

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I am curious why you feel that way? We have an ally that is trying to take out a longtime adversary, who is responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans via their proxies for decades, and they are doing us a huge favor by trying to destroy that adversary's ability to attack with nuclear weapons. That being the case, why the hell would you have a problem with the US attempting to prevent attacks on that ally's civilian population.

This is among your weirder takes.

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WW3…lol

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Yeah WW3... you said it yourself you coward. This is going to cause inflation and gas prices to spin out of control and cause a recession.

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Bad night for Iran. Bad night for Bar-Aryan.

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Bad night for people who care about middle America....

Oil prices surge more than 10% as Israel strikes Iran in major escalation

..... but I've known you were America Last for quite some time.

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10% is one of the most stable stocks of the year. I imagine we will see 100+ by this time next week unless a miracle happens

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I expect Iran will formally declare war against Israel in the coming days.

They simply cannot permit such attacks regardless if the West considers them to be justified.

Wonder if Iran has any contingency plans to invade Israel ?

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I suspect Iran's response will be a barrage of missiles, kind of like last time - the vast majority of which will be blown out of the sky, also like last time.

If they actually attempted a ground invasion, you are going to see an ass-kicking of epic proportions. Israel will wipe their forces off the map. Even the Mullahs aren't that stupid.

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The Mullahs used human wave attacks against Iraq for years.

Suffered horrible loses.

But they retained power.

A few missile attacks against Israel isn't going to work this time.
The mullah's are going to have to go all in or they are doomed.

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human waves are a bit easier when you share a boarder. They're quite a bit tougher when you don't have the navy or air transports to do it.

Iran's only chance is to acquire some state of the art, precision, guided-missiles from China (doubtful) or to have a prolonged, non-conventional battle with insurgents coming across the borders.

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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WW3…lol

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Yeah WW3... you said it yourself you coward. This is going to cause inflation and gas prices to spin out of control and cause a recession.

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Bad night for Iran. Bad night for Bar-Aryan.

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Bad night for people who care about middle America....

Oil prices surge more than 10% as Israel strikes Iran in major escalation

..... but I've known you were America Last for quite some time.

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10% is one of the most stable stocks of the year. I imagine we will see 100+ by this time next week unless a miracle happens

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I expect Iran will formally declare war against Israel in the coming days.

They simply cannot permit such attacks regardless if the West considers them to be justified.

Wonder if Iran has any contingency plans to invade Israel ?

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I suspect Iran's response will be a barrage of missiles, kind of like last time - the vast majority of which will be blown out of the sky, also like last time.

If they actually attempted a ground invasion, you are going to see an ass-kicking of epic proportions. Israel will wipe their forces off the map. Even the Mullahs aren't that stupid.

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The Mullahs used human wave attacks against Iraq for years.

Suffered horrible loses.

But they retained power.

A few missile attacks against Israel isn't going to work this time.
The mullah's are going to have to go all in or they are doomed.

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human waves are a bit easier when you share a boarder. They're quite a bit tougher when you don't have the navy or air transports to do it.

Iran's only chance is to acquire some state of the art, precision, guided-missiles from China (doubtful) or to have a prolonged, non-conventional battle with insurgents coming across the borders.

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As I mentioned earlier …..Iran might not have the capability to maintain the long supply line necessary for a ground assault.

If that is the case watch for the Iranians to use the 'poor man's nukes '

Poison gas
Biologicals

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Iran launches more than 100 drones at Israel in retaliation for striking nuclear sites: IDF

https://nypost.com/2025/06/13/world-news/iran-launches-more-than-100-drones-in-retaliation-after-israel-targets-nuclear-sites/

"Drones have yet to cross into Israeli territory, the IDF confirmed."

i wonder how many of the 8 million illegal aliens Biden added to 30+ million already here are sympaticos of the IRGC.

"Iran is about to have a nuke" is something we have been hearing for a decade and a half now. McAmnesty was running with this line for years. Given that, the odds are that they either already have several or they did not intend to develop one.

With Russia winning in Ukraine you have to wonder how much of this has to do with the need to develop another profit center for the MI complez and Netanhayu's political fortunes.

"About to have a nuke" is probably a more effective marketing tool than "Putin is Hitler" or "safe and effective."

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That's not what the IAEA says. Enrichment is a difficult and time consuming process. I suspect it's very likely that they don't have nukes but are on the verge.

The idea they don't want to develop a nuke is, quite simply, preposterous. Of course they do. It will change the balance of power in the ME if they get one.

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We've been told they were on the verge for 40 years.

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Rod Dreher- [So, it's on between Israel and Iran. Things are moving so fast that by the time I send this dispatch, God only knows what else will have happened. The things to keep in mind are these:

• Iran, a country ruled by Islamist fanatics, has long signaled its intention to destroy Israel. Not to live in peace with Israel, but to destroy it.
• It has shown its willingness to do so by subsidizing the Hezbollah terrorist army in Lebanon. Israel destroyed that terror proxy.
• Iran has also openly supported Hamas, financially and otherwise, since the 1990s, as part of its regional war against Israel. The October 7 massacre showed Iran's willingness to sponsor a 9/11-style mass terror attack on Israeli citizens.
• Israel judged correctly in my view that Iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to itself. Yesterday the IAEA said that Iran has not been living up to its commitments to curb its nuclear research meaning that the Tehran government's word cannot be trusted.

I wish it had not come to this. I went to bed last night praying that it wouldn't. It was always going to come to this, though, as long as Iran is ruled by the Islamists. The threat a nuclear-armed Iran would have posed to Israel was and is undeniable. Expecting the Israelis, or any other nation so targeted by Iran, to remain idle and hope for the best was totally unrealistic. Given that the Iranian government has for many years been openly stating that its goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, there is only one obvious reason for Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

I hope the Israelis succeeded in their mission goal. The Natanz nuclear enrichment site appears to have been destroyed. The Israelis wiped out the entire senior leadership of the Islamic Republic, save for Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran reports the deaths of at least six of its nuclear scientists; there are probably more.
The retaliation against Israel by Iran will be severe. Happily, now that Hezbollah and Hamas have been deactivated by the IDF, Israel will have less to worry about. But there will be massive drone strikes against Israeli cities. If you fear a regional war, then you should be aware that there is no chance that Arab states will come in on Iran's side. The Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shia; the Arab states have long been afraid of Iran's regional hegemony. Whatever they say for public consumption, you can be sure that there is great relief in the governments of the Gulf Arab states today.

There will be Iranian-sponsored attacks on US interests in the Middle East. What we have to hope for is that the Iranians won't be foolish enough to provoke Washington to come into the war on Israel's side. In my view, Trump will only involve the US in this conflict if the Iranians attack American interests, either directly or via terrorist proxy. If Tehran does provoke Washington in this way, then the US military will be end the Islamist regime in Iran. I hope and pray it does not come to that we do not need to be involved in another Mideast war! but if Iran attacks us, we will have no choice.]

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Yikes...I had no idea Rod was so uninformed. It's bizarre seeing his journey from Iraq war cheerleader to "severely chastened" critic to apparently getting fooled all over again.

Lesson unlearned, I guess.

Sam Lowry said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Rod Dreher- [So, it's on between Israel and Iran. Things are moving so fast that by the time I send this dispatch, God only knows what else will have happened. The things to keep in mind are these:

• Iran, a country ruled by Islamist fanatics, has long signaled its intention to destroy Israel. Not to live in peace with Israel, but to destroy it.
• It has shown its willingness to do so by subsidizing the Hezbollah terrorist army in Lebanon. Israel destroyed that terror proxy.
• Iran has also openly supported Hamas, financially and otherwise, since the 1990s, as part of its regional war against Israel. The October 7 massacre showed Iran's willingness to sponsor a 9/11-style mass terror attack on Israeli citizens.
• Israel judged correctly in my view that Iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to itself. Yesterday the IAEA said that Iran has not been living up to its commitments to curb its nuclear research meaning that the Tehran government's word cannot be trusted.

I wish it had not come to this. I went to bed last night praying that it wouldn't. It was always going to come to this, though, as long as Iran is ruled by the Islamists. The threat a nuclear-armed Iran would have posed to Israel was and is undeniable. Expecting the Israelis, or any other nation so targeted by Iran, to remain idle and hope for the best was totally unrealistic. Given that the Iranian government has for many years been openly stating that its goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, there is only one obvious reason for Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

I hope the Israelis succeeded in their mission goal. The Natanz nuclear enrichment site appears to have been destroyed. The Israelis wiped out the entire senior leadership of the Islamic Republic, save for Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran reports the deaths of at least six of its nuclear scientists; there are probably more.
The retaliation against Israel by Iran will be severe. Happily, now that Hezbollah and Hamas have been deactivated by the IDF, Israel will have less to worry about. But there will be massive drone strikes against Israeli cities. If you fear a regional war, then you should be aware that there is no chance that Arab states will come in on Iran's side. The Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shia; the Arab states have long been afraid of Iran's regional hegemony. Whatever they say for public consumption, you can be sure that there is great relief in the governments of the Gulf Arab states today.

There will be Iranian-sponsored attacks on US interests in the Middle East. What we have to hope for is that the Iranians won't be foolish enough to provoke Washington to come into the war on Israel's side. In my view, Trump will only involve the US in this conflict if the Iranians attack American interests, either directly or via terrorist proxy. If Tehran does provoke Washington in this way, then the US military will be end the Islamist regime in Iran. I hope and pray it does not come to that we do not need to be involved in another Mideast war! but if Iran attacks us, we will have no choice.]

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Yikes...I had no idea Rod was so uninformed. It's bizarre seeing his journey from Iraq war cheerleader to "severely chastened" critic to apparently getting fooled all over again.

Lesson unlearned, I guess.

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Not sure that an individual who's been right on foreign policy matters less than Biden should be casting stones. I mean, you pretty much suck at this.

I don't agree with Rod on everything, but at least he doesn't spew Russian propaganda.

Mothra said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Rod Dreher- [So, it's on between Israel and Iran. Things are moving so fast that by the time I send this dispatch, God only knows what else will have happened. The things to keep in mind are these:

• Iran, a country ruled by Islamist fanatics, has long signaled its intention to destroy Israel. Not to live in peace with Israel, but to destroy it.
• It has shown its willingness to do so by subsidizing the Hezbollah terrorist army in Lebanon. Israel destroyed that terror proxy.
• Iran has also openly supported Hamas, financially and otherwise, since the 1990s, as part of its regional war against Israel. The October 7 massacre showed Iran's willingness to sponsor a 9/11-style mass terror attack on Israeli citizens.
• Israel judged correctly in my view that Iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to itself. Yesterday the IAEA said that Iran has not been living up to its commitments to curb its nuclear research meaning that the Tehran government's word cannot be trusted.

I wish it had not come to this. I went to bed last night praying that it wouldn't. It was always going to come to this, though, as long as Iran is ruled by the Islamists. The threat a nuclear-armed Iran would have posed to Israel was and is undeniable. Expecting the Israelis, or any other nation so targeted by Iran, to remain idle and hope for the best was totally unrealistic. Given that the Iranian government has for many years been openly stating that its goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, there is only one obvious reason for Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

I hope the Israelis succeeded in their mission goal. The Natanz nuclear enrichment site appears to have been destroyed. The Israelis wiped out the entire senior leadership of the Islamic Republic, save for Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran reports the deaths of at least six of its nuclear scientists; there are probably more.
The retaliation against Israel by Iran will be severe. Happily, now that Hezbollah and Hamas have been deactivated by the IDF, Israel will have less to worry about. But there will be massive drone strikes against Israeli cities. If you fear a regional war, then you should be aware that there is no chance that Arab states will come in on Iran's side. The Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shia; the Arab states have long been afraid of Iran's regional hegemony. Whatever they say for public consumption, you can be sure that there is great relief in the governments of the Gulf Arab states today.

There will be Iranian-sponsored attacks on US interests in the Middle East. What we have to hope for is that the Iranians won't be foolish enough to provoke Washington to come into the war on Israel's side. In my view, Trump will only involve the US in this conflict if the Iranians attack American interests, either directly or via terrorist proxy. If Tehran does provoke Washington in this way, then the US military will be end the Islamist regime in Iran. I hope and pray it does not come to that we do not need to be involved in another Mideast war! but if Iran attacks us, we will have no choice.]

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Two points...

1) the head of the IAEA is an Israeli asset... so that entire organization is as compromised as our Federal Government.

2) The US military has already entered into this conflict and shot down some of the Iranian drones.

The one part I am actually looking forward to in all this is that the cowardly, corrupt Gulf Arabs are all next for Israeli expansion ALL of Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria are within the territorial ambitions of Greater Israel along with portions of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.

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Lmao.

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You realize the Israelis have occupied hundreds of square kilometers of Syria in the last six months and said they plan to keep fighting until the country is "dismantled," right?

Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Rod Dreher- [So, it's on between Israel and Iran. Things are moving so fast that by the time I send this dispatch, God only knows what else will have happened. The things to keep in mind are these:

• Iran, a country ruled by Islamist fanatics, has long signaled its intention to destroy Israel. Not to live in peace with Israel, but to destroy it.
• It has shown its willingness to do so by subsidizing the Hezbollah terrorist army in Lebanon. Israel destroyed that terror proxy.
• Iran has also openly supported Hamas, financially and otherwise, since the 1990s, as part of its regional war against Israel. The October 7 massacre showed Iran's willingness to sponsor a 9/11-style mass terror attack on Israeli citizens.
• Israel judged correctly in my view that Iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to itself. Yesterday the IAEA said that Iran has not been living up to its commitments to curb its nuclear research meaning that the Tehran government's word cannot be trusted.

I wish it had not come to this. I went to bed last night praying that it wouldn't. It was always going to come to this, though, as long as Iran is ruled by the Islamists. The threat a nuclear-armed Iran would have posed to Israel was and is undeniable. Expecting the Israelis, or any other nation so targeted by Iran, to remain idle and hope for the best was totally unrealistic. Given that the Iranian government has for many years been openly stating that its goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, there is only one obvious reason for Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

I hope the Israelis succeeded in their mission goal. The Natanz nuclear enrichment site appears to have been destroyed. The Israelis wiped out the entire senior leadership of the Islamic Republic, save for Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran reports the deaths of at least six of its nuclear scientists; there are probably more.
The retaliation against Israel by Iran will be severe. Happily, now that Hezbollah and Hamas have been deactivated by the IDF, Israel will have less to worry about. But there will be massive drone strikes against Israeli cities. If you fear a regional war, then you should be aware that there is no chance that Arab states will come in on Iran's side. The Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shia; the Arab states have long been afraid of Iran's regional hegemony. Whatever they say for public consumption, you can be sure that there is great relief in the governments of the Gulf Arab states today.

There will be Iranian-sponsored attacks on US interests in the Middle East. What we have to hope for is that the Iranians won't be foolish enough to provoke Washington to come into the war on Israel's side. In my view, Trump will only involve the US in this conflict if the Iranians attack American interests, either directly or via terrorist proxy. If Tehran does provoke Washington in this way, then the US military will be end the Islamist regime in Iran. I hope and pray it does not come to that we do not need to be involved in another Mideast war! but if Iran attacks us, we will have no choice.]

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Yikes...I had no idea Rod was so uninformed. It's bizarre seeing his journey from Iraq war cheerleader to "severely chastened" critic to apparently getting fooled all over again.

Lesson unlearned, I guess.

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Not sure that an individual who's been right on foreign policy matters less than Biden should be casting stones. I mean, you pretty much suck at this.

I don't agree with Rod on everything, but at least he doesn't spew Russian propaganda.

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If I say Russia will win in Ukraine, and Russia ends up winning, is it still Russian propaganda?

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Sadly, we are here because of Trump. He threw out the first nuclear deal that Iran negotiated in good faith.

Iran came back to the table to negotiate a new deal with Trump. In good faith.

I believe Trump sees Bibi for what he is. But he's unable to rein him in. I do t see why Iran stays at the table.

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Why do you want Iran to have a nuke? Oh yeah, "from the river to the sea."

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I don't want them to have a nuke. We had a deal that allowed them to have nuclear energy but not a bomb.

Isreal and Trump killed that deal. I don't want Isreal to have a nuke, either. They have shown themselves to be an irresponsible neighbor.

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JFK agreed with you and it got him shot in the head.

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There is zero evidence Israel had anything to do with Kennedy's assassination.

The mafia, CiA and Castro are the legitimate suspects.

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Some of these dudes are straight anti-Semite bomb throwers. You have to be really hard up to be an Iranian sympathizer.

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Don't check any Millennials or Gen Z opinion polls towards Israel or your Gen X heart might give out.

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There is some truth to this.

Hopefully Israel can secure a lasting peace asap.

Because as we old folks die off US support is going to weaken dramatically.

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I think they'll be fine.

They literally spent my entire life buying off and playing Boomers into giving over their children and grandchildren's inheritance to them.

They already bankrupted the country for Israel. By the time Millennials or Gen Z have any power there won't be anything left to steal.

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It's telling that nearly every complaint you have of Israel deals with money (taxes, fuel cost, debt)

The_barBEARian said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Rod Dreher- [So, it's on between Israel and Iran. Things are moving so fast that by the time I send this dispatch, God only knows what else will have happened. The things to keep in mind are these:

• Iran, a country ruled by Islamist fanatics, has long signaled its intention to destroy Israel. Not to live in peace with Israel, but to destroy it.
• It has shown its willingness to do so by subsidizing the Hezbollah terrorist army in Lebanon. Israel destroyed that terror proxy.
• Iran has also openly supported Hamas, financially and otherwise, since the 1990s, as part of its regional war against Israel. The October 7 massacre showed Iran's willingness to sponsor a 9/11-style mass terror attack on Israeli citizens.
• Israel judged correctly in my view that Iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to itself. Yesterday the IAEA said that Iran has not been living up to its commitments to curb its nuclear research meaning that the Tehran government's word cannot be trusted.

I wish it had not come to this. I went to bed last night praying that it wouldn't. It was always going to come to this, though, as long as Iran is ruled by the Islamists. The threat a nuclear-armed Iran would have posed to Israel was and is undeniable. Expecting the Israelis, or any other nation so targeted by Iran, to remain idle and hope for the best was totally unrealistic. Given that the Iranian government has for many years been openly stating that its goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, there is only one obvious reason for Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

I hope the Israelis succeeded in their mission goal. The Natanz nuclear enrichment site appears to have been destroyed. The Israelis wiped out the entire senior leadership of the Islamic Republic, save for Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran reports the deaths of at least six of its nuclear scientists; there are probably more.
The retaliation against Israel by Iran will be severe. Happily, now that Hezbollah and Hamas have been deactivated by the IDF, Israel will have less to worry about. But there will be massive drone strikes against Israeli cities. If you fear a regional war, then you should be aware that there is no chance that Arab states will come in on Iran's side. The Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shia; the Arab states have long been afraid of Iran's regional hegemony. Whatever they say for public consumption, you can be sure that there is great relief in the governments of the Gulf Arab states today.

There will be Iranian-sponsored attacks on US interests in the Middle East. What we have to hope for is that the Iranians won't be foolish enough to provoke Washington to come into the war on Israel's side. In my view, Trump will only involve the US in this conflict if the Iranians attack American interests, either directly or via terrorist proxy. If Tehran does provoke Washington in this way, then the US military will be end the Islamist regime in Iran. I hope and pray it does not come to that we do not need to be involved in another Mideast war! but if Iran attacks us, we will have no choice.]

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Two points...

1) the head of the IAEA is an Israeli asset... so that entire organization is as compromised as our Federal Government.

2) The US military has already entered into this conflict and shot down some of the Iranian drones.

The one part I am actually looking forward to in all this is that the cowardly, corrupt Gulf Arabs are all next for Israeli expansion ALL of Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria are within the territorial ambitions of Greater Israel along with portions of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.

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I bet the contortions you go through to explain Israel exchanging land for peace are really something to see

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The_barBEARian said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Rod Dreher- [So, it's on between Israel and Iran. Things are moving so fast that by the time I send this dispatch, God only knows what else will have happened. The things to keep in mind are these:

• Iran, a country ruled by Islamist fanatics, has long signaled its intention to destroy Israel. Not to live in peace with Israel, but to destroy it.
• It has shown its willingness to do so by subsidizing the Hezbollah terrorist army in Lebanon. Israel destroyed that terror proxy.
• Iran has also openly supported Hamas, financially and otherwise, since the 1990s, as part of its regional war against Israel. The October 7 massacre showed Iran's willingness to sponsor a 9/11-style mass terror attack on Israeli citizens.
• Israel judged correctly in my view that Iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to itself. Yesterday the IAEA said that Iran has not been living up to its commitments to curb its nuclear research meaning that the Tehran government's word cannot be trusted.

I wish it had not come to this. I went to bed last night praying that it wouldn't. It was always going to come to this, though, as long as Iran is ruled by the Islamists. The threat a nuclear-armed Iran would have posed to Israel was and is undeniable. Expecting the Israelis, or any other nation so targeted by Iran, to remain idle and hope for the best was totally unrealistic. Given that the Iranian government has for many years been openly stating that its goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, there is only one obvious reason for Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

I hope the Israelis succeeded in their mission goal. The Natanz nuclear enrichment site appears to have been destroyed. The Israelis wiped out the entire senior leadership of the Islamic Republic, save for Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran reports the deaths of at least six of its nuclear scientists; there are probably more.
The retaliation against Israel by Iran will be severe. Happily, now that Hezbollah and Hamas have been deactivated by the IDF, Israel will have less to worry about. But there will be massive drone strikes against Israeli cities. If you fear a regional war, then you should be aware that there is no chance that Arab states will come in on Iran's side. The Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shia; the Arab states have long been afraid of Iran's regional hegemony. Whatever they say for public consumption, you can be sure that there is great relief in the governments of the Gulf Arab states today.

There will be Iranian-sponsored attacks on US interests in the Middle East. What we have to hope for is that the Iranians won't be foolish enough to provoke Washington to come into the war on Israel's side. In my view, Trump will only involve the US in this conflict if the Iranians attack American interests, either directly or via terrorist proxy. If Tehran does provoke Washington in this way, then the US military will be end the Islamist regime in Iran. I hope and pray it does not come to that we do not need to be involved in another Mideast war! but if Iran attacks us, we will have no choice.]

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The one part I am actually looking forward to in all this is that the cowardly, corrupt Gulf Arabs are all next for Israeli expansion ALL of Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria are within the territorial ambitions of Greater Israel along with portions of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.

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Amusing

Might as well claim Israel has intentions towards annexing Los Angeles.

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Careful, Captain Dachau thinks the Jews already own Hollywood.

Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Realitybites said:

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Iran launches more than 100 drones at Israel in retaliation for striking nuclear sites: IDF

https://nypost.com/2025/06/13/world-news/iran-launches-more-than-100-drones-in-retaliation-after-israel-targets-nuclear-sites/

"Drones have yet to cross into Israeli territory, the IDF confirmed."

i wonder how many of the 8 million illegal aliens Biden added to 30+ million already here are sympaticos of the IRGC.

"Iran is about to have a nuke" is something we have been hearing for a decade and a half now. McAmnesty was running with this line for years. Given that, the odds are that they either already have several or they did not intend to develop one.

With Russia winning in Ukraine you have to wonder how much of this has to do with the need to develop another profit center for the MI complez and Netanhayu's political fortunes.

"About to have a nuke" is probably a more effective marketing tool than "Putin is Hitler" or "safe and effective."

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That's not what the IAEA says. Enrichment is a difficult and time consuming process. I suspect it's very likely that they don't have nukes but are on the verge.

The idea they don't want to develop a nuke is, quite simply, preposterous. Of course they do. It will change the balance of power in the ME if they get one.

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We've been told they were on the verge for 40 years.

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How many times and over how many years have the Israelis hit Iranian nuclear facilities?

the barBEARian, you are being paged

What is Palestinian twitter saying today? What are the anti semites saying? Need some screenshots.

Send me your best below 👇🏻

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) June 13, 2025

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Realitybites said:

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Iran launches more than 100 drones at Israel in retaliation for striking nuclear sites: IDF

https://nypost.com/2025/06/13/world-news/iran-launches-more-than-100-drones-in-retaliation-after-israel-targets-nuclear-sites/

"Drones have yet to cross into Israeli territory, the IDF confirmed."

i wonder how many of the 8 million illegal aliens Biden added to 30+ million already here are sympaticos of the IRGC.

"Iran is about to have a nuke" is something we have been hearing for a decade and a half now. McAmnesty was running with this line for years. Given that, the odds are that they either already have several or they did not intend to develop one.

With Russia winning in Ukraine you have to wonder how much of this has to do with the need to develop another profit center for the MI complez and Netanhayu's political fortunes.

"About to have a nuke" is probably a more effective marketing tool than "Putin is Hitler" or "safe and effective."

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That's not what the IAEA says. Enrichment is a difficult and time consuming process. I suspect it's very likely that they don't have nukes but are on the verge.

The idea they don't want to develop a nuke is, quite simply, preposterous. Of course they do. It will change the balance of power in the ME if they get one.

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We've been told they were on the verge for 40 years.

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How many times and over how many years have the Israelis hit Iranian nuclear facilities?

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Zero. They've done some cyber-attacks, assassinations, and minor sabotage, but never anything like this. So both of these claims can't be true. If Iran was ever that close, and if they really wanted nukes, they would have them by now.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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the barBEARian, you are being paged

What is Palestinian twitter saying today? What are the anti semites saying? Need some screenshots.

Send me your best below 👇🏻

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) June 13, 2025

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Terrorism is cool when Jews do it!