War with Iran?

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Iran is losing, go cry more.
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good work, mil dudes.....



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boognish_bear said:



Expect Mossad to plan a "happy accident" for VP Vance...
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No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin
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It's interesting that Iran says they evacuated the 3 sites, nobody died as a result of the U.S. strikes, and there is nothing at the 3 sites that would cause radiation leakage. It's almost like they prepared for this, and were ok with it. I wonder if they feel like they can't back down or appear to be giving ground while Israel is bombing, but are ok with the U.S. bombing the sites so Israel has less of a reason to keep attacking. They could never say all of that openly.

Anyways, to the posters who said we couldn't do it, yes we can achieve total perfect victory anytime we want in the skies of a nation like Iran.

The only way I'm ok with it though, is if that was it, finito, and if we push for Israel to stop attacking. The fact that it cost 0 lives is surprising to me, and very good news.
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Porteroso said:

It's interesting that Iran says they evacuated the 3 sites, nobody died as a result of the U.S. strikes, and there is nothing at the 3 sites that would cause radiation leakage. It's almost like they prepared for this, and were ok with it. I wonder if they feel like they can't back down or appear to be giving ground while Israel is bombing, but are ok with the U.S. bombing the sites so Israel has less of a reason to keep attacking. They could never say all of that openly.

Anyways, to the posters who said we couldn't do it, yes we can achieve total perfect victory anytime we want in the skies of a nation like Iran.

The only way I'm ok with it though, is if that was it, finito, and if we push for Israel to stop attacking. The fact that it cost 0 lives is surprising to me, and very good news.


I would have to imagine that there's tons of satellites watching those sites 24/7. If they moved material, I'd be shocked if we didn't know about it. Also, not some sort of expert nuclear engineer, but I doubt that there's just an infinite number of sites that they can take the stuff to that's impregnable to bombs
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Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin

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Hm I'm not sure how all of this pans out legally, but I agree Trump should not be able to bomb foreign countries without any involvement from Congress. The fact that we just accept that Presidents get to go to war without Congress shows you how much power the Executive Branch has taken for itself.
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Youre a clown said:

Porteroso said:

It's interesting that Iran says they evacuated the 3 sites, nobody died as a result of the U.S. strikes, and there is nothing at the 3 sites that would cause radiation leakage. It's almost like they prepared for this, and were ok with it. I wonder if they feel like they can't back down or appear to be giving ground while Israel is bombing, but are ok with the U.S. bombing the sites so Israel has less of a reason to keep attacking. They could never say all of that openly.

Anyways, to the posters who said we couldn't do it, yes we can achieve total perfect victory anytime we want in the skies of a nation like Iran.

The only way I'm ok with it though, is if that was it, finito, and if we push for Israel to stop attacking. The fact that it cost 0 lives is surprising to me, and very good news.
I would have to imagine that there's tons of satellites watching those sites 24/7. If they moved material, I'd be shocked if we didn't know about it. Also, not some sort of expert nuclear engineer, but I doubt that there's just an infinite number of sites that they can take the stuff to that's impregnable to bombs
Whether they agreed to it or not, removing Iran's capability to make nuclear bombs, at the cost of 0 lives, is worlds better than I thought we'd do. I assume we used bombs big enough that there is no verification on the ground needed.

At the beginning of all this, I thought we for sure cannot go to war with Iran, and for sure they cannot have nuclear weapons. Seems we nailed it, as long as their response is not so massive that we feel we have to escalate.
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Porteroso said:

Hm I'm not sure how all of this pans out legally, but I agree Trump should not be able to bomb foreign countries without any involvement from Congress. The fact that we just accept that Presidents get to go to war without Congress shows you how much power the Executive Branch has taken for itself.
Of course, this leeway is not Trump's doing. Been that way for a long long time.
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Porteroso said:

Hm I'm not sure how all of this pans out legally, but I agree Trump should not be able to bomb foreign countries without any involvement from Congress. The fact that we just accept that Presidents get to go to war without Congress shows you how much power the Executive Branch was given by congress shirking it's responsibilities in favor of fund-raising talking points.



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The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.
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Porteroso said:

Youre a clown said:

Porteroso said:

It's interesting that Iran says they evacuated the 3 sites, nobody died as a result of the U.S. strikes, and there is nothing at the 3 sites that would cause radiation leakage. It's almost like they prepared for this, and were ok with it. I wonder if they feel like they can't back down or appear to be giving ground while Israel is bombing, but are ok with the U.S. bombing the sites so Israel has less of a reason to keep attacking. They could never say all of that openly.

Anyways, to the posters who said we couldn't do it, yes we can achieve total perfect victory anytime we want in the skies of a nation like Iran.

The only way I'm ok with it though, is if that was it, finito, and if we push for Israel to stop attacking. The fact that it cost 0 lives is surprising to me, and very good news.
I would have to imagine that there's tons of satellites watching those sites 24/7. If they moved material, I'd be shocked if we didn't know about it. Also, not some sort of expert nuclear engineer, but I doubt that there's just an infinite number of sites that they can take the stuff to that's impregnable to bombs
Whether they agreed to it or not, removing Iran's capability to make nuclear bombs, at the cost of 0 lives, is worlds better than I thought we'd do. I assume we used bombs big enough that there is no verification on the ground needed.

At the beginning of all this, I thought we for sure cannot go to war with Iran, and for sure they cannot have nuclear weapons. Seems we nailed it, as long as their response is not so massive that we feel we have to escalate.

How the **** are we not at war with Iran now?

There isnt a lot of room for plausible deniability when you drop 6 of the biggest non-nuclear bombs.
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Porteroso said:

Youre a clown said:

Porteroso said:

It's interesting that Iran says they evacuated the 3 sites, nobody died as a result of the U.S. strikes, and there is nothing at the 3 sites that would cause radiation leakage. It's almost like they prepared for this, and were ok with it. I wonder if they feel like they can't back down or appear to be giving ground while Israel is bombing, but are ok with the U.S. bombing the sites so Israel has less of a reason to keep attacking. They could never say all of that openly.

Anyways, to the posters who said we couldn't do it, yes we can achieve total perfect victory anytime we want in the skies of a nation like Iran.

The only way I'm ok with it though, is if that was it, finito, and if we push for Israel to stop attacking. The fact that it cost 0 lives is surprising to me, and very good news.
I would have to imagine that there's tons of satellites watching those sites 24/7. If they moved material, I'd be shocked if we didn't know about it. Also, not some sort of expert nuclear engineer, but I doubt that there's just an infinite number of sites that they can take the stuff to that's impregnable to bombs
Whether they agreed to it or not, removing Iran's capability to make nuclear bombs, at the cost of 0 lives, is worlds better than I thought we'd do. I assume we used bombs big enough that there is no verification on the ground needed.

At the beginning of all this, I thought we for sure cannot go to war with Iran, and for sure they cannot have nuclear weapons. Seems we nailed it, as long as their response is not so massive that we feel we have to escalate.
Yes to removing Iran's nuclear capabilities. Whether or not it was an impending threat or not, the rhetoric from the Iran regime leads anyone paying attention to believe that they have the intent.

But as for zero American lives lost? Sure, while dropping the bombs, but it's a bit too early for us to call any body counts. Iran will likely respond in some form or fashion.
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I would expect a terrorist attack on American soil or against an American interest on July 4.

Everyone be careful.

The proxies are about to go scorched earth.
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boognish_bear said:


Did MTG forget about the Iranian missile strikes on Israel in 2024 when Israel was taking out Hezbollah in Lebanon?
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ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...
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Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

Realitybites said:

Sunni Islam has been responsible for more US deaths over the past 20 years than Iran, starting with the 3000+ killed by Saudi Arabians on 9/11.

What my plan is? Tell the world unequivocally that we will not be attacking Iran at this time and get both parties back to the negotiating table along with Russian, Chinese, and Arab league negotiators to see what can be done. Sort of like what was going on before Israel unilaterally pearl harbored them.

Netanyahu's appetite for war will diminish dramatically should he realize that in ten days when Israel runs out of interceptors that we aren't giving him our credit card for that 200 million a day bill.

You start from the rational premise that no country's leadership want the gravy train to end, and you quickly realize that regime change operations run the greatest risk of sparking irrational action by any country.
The problem is Russia, China, and Iran, aren't interested is seriously negotiating a nuclear deal. Their goal is for a nuclear armed Iran, full stop. That's why we're where we are today. Iran has never abandoned its goal for a nuclear weapon. Continued negotiations guarantees they'll reach there goal.
Yup.

Which is why regime change is the only practical option. There is no practical solution that does not involve a new regime willing to adopt a policy of abandoning nukes and seeking more constructive foreign policy toward western interests.

Iran has always been the most vulnerable of the 4 Axis powers. Keep up the pressure. Then escalate.

Trying to eliminate 28k ballistic missiles is not practical. Eliminate the leadership that controls them. Then deal with the new regime. Nato is more than tacitly on board for much a policy. THEY are actually under the umbrella of Iranian missiles. Nato aircraft (more than just ours) have been supporting Israel directly (not over Iranian airspace). Turkey has a border with Iran. Azerbaijan has a border with Iran (as well as a close relationship with both Israel and Turkey). And we have assets on the ground in Iraqi Kurdistan. There are substantial Azeri, Turk, and Kurds (and several more) minorities in Northern Iran. So you can take it to the bank that money, arms, ammo, trainers, etc….are on the ground
Right now (and have been for weeks) to destabilize and foment mischief inside Iran.

No invasion required. Make Iran ungovernable. Deal with a new government.


The government is more likely to collapse in Israel as a result of this than Iran.

Do you say stupid stuff just for exercise?
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Show me the posts where you complained about Obama's drone strikes.
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Youre a clown said:

Porteroso said:

It's interesting that Iran says they evacuated the 3 sites, nobody died as a result of the U.S. strikes, and there is nothing at the 3 sites that would cause radiation leakage. It's almost like they prepared for this, and were ok with it. I wonder if they feel like they can't back down or appear to be giving ground while Israel is bombing, but are ok with the U.S. bombing the sites so Israel has less of a reason to keep attacking. They could never say all of that openly.

Anyways, to the posters who said we couldn't do it, yes we can achieve total perfect victory anytime we want in the skies of a nation like Iran.

The only way I'm ok with it though, is if that was it, finito, and if we push for Israel to stop attacking. The fact that it cost 0 lives is surprising to me, and very good news.


I would have to imagine that there's tons of satellites watching those sites 24/7. If they moved material, I'd be shocked if we didn't know about it. Also, not some sort of expert nuclear engineer, but I doubt that there's just an infinite number of sites that they can take the stuff to that's impregnable to bombs
Israel has spies within the Iranian military and government providing solid intel.

Add in our satellites over the area 24/7 and nothing is going to be moved without us knowing about it.

Trump did the right thing....however we are clearly now in a war with Iran.

And Americans are going to be killed as a result.

Beginning with soft targets right here in the US.

Be careful folks.

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Yogi said:

I would expect a terrorist attack on American soil or against an American interest on July 4.

Everyone be careful.

The proxies are about to go scorched earth.


I don't. They are having success against Israel. I see them escalating it.
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Did Trump lie to us? Did he lie to Iran? Or is Netanyahu calling the shots?
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The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...
Stereotyping is the forte of antisemitic minds. They must find a bogeyman to explain why so many people don't accept their views of human life.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Did Trump lie to us? Did he lie to Iran? Or is Netanyahu calling the shots?
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The_barBEARian said:

Porteroso said:

Youre a clown said:

Porteroso said:

It's interesting that Iran says they evacuated the 3 sites, nobody died as a result of the U.S. strikes, and there is nothing at the 3 sites that would cause radiation leakage. It's almost like they prepared for this, and were ok with it. I wonder if they feel like they can't back down or appear to be giving ground while Israel is bombing, but are ok with the U.S. bombing the sites so Israel has less of a reason to keep attacking. They could never say all of that openly.

Anyways, to the posters who said we couldn't do it, yes we can achieve total perfect victory anytime we want in the skies of a nation like Iran.

The only way I'm ok with it though, is if that was it, finito, and if we push for Israel to stop attacking. The fact that it cost 0 lives is surprising to me, and very good news.
I would have to imagine that there's tons of satellites watching those sites 24/7. If they moved material, I'd be shocked if we didn't know about it. Also, not some sort of expert nuclear engineer, but I doubt that there's just an infinite number of sites that they can take the stuff to that's impregnable to bombs
Whether they agreed to it or not, removing Iran's capability to make nuclear bombs, at the cost of 0 lives, is worlds better than I thought we'd do. I assume we used bombs big enough that there is no verification on the ground needed.

At the beginning of all this, I thought we for sure cannot go to war with Iran, and for sure they cannot have nuclear weapons. Seems we nailed it, as long as their response is not so massive that we feel we have to escalate.

How the **** are we not at war with Iran now?

There isnt a lot of room for plausible deniability when you drop 6 of the biggest non-nuclear bombs.

You do not understand something as simple as the definition of war and the definition of peace. War is not merely the presence of armed conflict, and peace is not the lack of it.

We've been at war with Iran since 1980,
Thousands of Americans have died.
More will, as long as the mullahs are in charge.
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The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Youre a clown said:

No one is "going to war". Iran will launch some drones and missiles at US bases, likely the ones in Iraq. Most will get shot down. Their old Santa Claus looking leader will do some more saber rattling, and this will eventually simmer down. Iran does not have an endless supply of drones and missiles. They've sold a lot of of them to Putin


X rando clearly has the pulse of what's going on… Or maybe you are hoping this happens.

No. I'm hoping you step onto the street and get hit by a bus.

I think all you geriatric 50+ Boomercons are psychotic, impulsive and a huge liability...
Dude. This kind of talk is really uncalled for. Discuss, make your point, and leave it at that.

Not sure I understand your obsessive hate for Israel and the Jewish people.

I especially don't understand your hatred for people over 50. Wish you would explain it to us.

Relax, have a couple of stiff drinks, and enjoy the rest of your weekend.
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