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quash
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Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Florda_mike
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quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
quash
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Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Oldbear83
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quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
quash
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Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Doc Holliday
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Because they're unrealistic and we're all slaves to a two party system.

You're the real ideologue here in that you think it's possible to escape the two party system: you live in that unrealistic realm. I've accepted it. Independents are never going to win unfortunately.

What's realistic is that if Republicans lose in midterms then nothing will get done and this country will shift to the hard radical left.
quash
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Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Because they're unrealistic and we're all slaves to a two party system.

You're the real ideologue here in that you think it's possible to escape the two party system: you live in that unrealistic realm. I've accepted it. Independents are never going to win unfortunately.

What's realistic is that if Republicans lose in midterms then nothing will get done and this country will shift to the hard radical left.

I just think there are better options than slavery.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Doc Holliday
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quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Because they're unrealistic and we're all slaves to a two party system.

You're the real ideologue here in that you think it's possible to escape the two party system: you live in that unrealistic realm. I've accepted it. Independents are never going to win unfortunately.

What's realistic is that if Republicans lose in midterms then nothing will get done and this country will shift to the hard radical left.

I just think there are better options than slavery.
I agree.

But you don't end slavery without a revolution or civil war if history has taught us anything.

I would love nothing more than this country going libertarian and using common sense, logic and avoiding emotion to run this country. You know, things like balancing a budget for example.

But there's a conditioned system in place fortified with trillions of dollars, group think, lobbying, corruption, mega corporations and the military industrial complex. There's too many hands in it and they will never allow their special interests to be challenged.

For example: you see the subject of illegal immigration as a problem...I see it as politicians using this problem to make millions and to run on...which is why they DON"T want to offer solutions.
Do you understand where I'm coming from?

There's an elite club...and you ain't in it.

This is the sole reason I support Trump. He's outright ****ing with the status quo and challenging this elite club. Sure he's an *******...a moron a times, but he's the only person crazy enough and capable of messing with them.
TexasScientist
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Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Because they're unrealistic and we're all slaves to a two party system.

You're the real ideologue here in that you think it's possible to escape the two party system: you live in that unrealistic realm. I've accepted it. Independents are never going to win unfortunately.

What's realistic is that if Republicans lose in midterms then nothing will get done and this country will shift to the hard radical left.

I just think there are better options than slavery.
I agree.

But you don't end slavery without a revolution or civil war if history has taught us anything.

I would love nothing more than this country going libertarian and using common sense, logic and avoiding emotion to run this country. You know, things like balancing a budget for example.

But there's a conditioned system in place fortified with trillions of dollars, group think, lobbying, corruption, mega corporations and the military industrial complex. There's too many hands in it and they will never allow their special interests to be challenged.

For example: you see the subject of illegal immigration as a problem...I see it as politicians using this problem to make millions and to run on...which is why they DON"T want to offer solutions.
Do you understand where I'm coming from?

There's an elite club...and you ain't in it.

This is the sole reason I support Trump. He's outright ****ing with the status quo and challenging this elite club. Sure he's an *******...a moron a times, but he's the only person crazy enough and capable of messing with them.
I think you just made the case for going Libertarian.
Doc Holliday
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TexasScientist said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Because they're unrealistic and we're all slaves to a two party system.

You're the real ideologue here in that you think it's possible to escape the two party system: you live in that unrealistic realm. I've accepted it. Independents are never going to win unfortunately.

What's realistic is that if Republicans lose in midterms then nothing will get done and this country will shift to the hard radical left.

I just think there are better options than slavery.
I agree.

But you don't end slavery without a revolution or civil war if history has taught us anything.

I would love nothing more than this country going libertarian and using common sense, logic and avoiding emotion to run this country. You know, things like balancing a budget for example.

But there's a conditioned system in place fortified with trillions of dollars, group think, lobbying, corruption, mega corporations and the military industrial complex. There's too many hands in it and they will never allow their special interests to be challenged.

For example: you see the subject of illegal immigration as a problem...I see it as politicians using this problem to make millions and to run on...which is why they DON"T want to offer solutions.
Do you understand where I'm coming from?

There's an elite club...and you ain't in it.

This is the sole reason I support Trump. He's outright ****ing with the status quo and challenging this elite club. Sure he's an *******...a moron a times, but he's the only person crazy enough and capable of messing with them.
I think you just made the case for going Libertarian.
I made the case for hijacking the Republican party with libertarian values and voting out the establishment.
Which is the only solution and exactly what's happening.

The GOP has been garbage since Bush 2. They realized their voters are actually anti establishment...not pro Republican values. We're not far right racist conservative baptists who hate gays and want a white world or middle eastern wars.

I see Obama and Bush as the same with just different labels.
TexasScientist
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Again, I think you just made the case for going Libertarian.
Doc Holliday
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TexasScientist said:

Again, I think you just made the case for going Libertarian.
I won't vote libertarian because it will give power to Democrats.

However, I will vote in libertarian minded individuals to the GOP.

You gotta be realistic.
Gunny Hartman
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Though often on the right path, unfortunately many if not most libertarians are similar to Democrats in the respect that they are unrealistic about what can actually happen and what works in the real world. So Doc is right, the best chance for freedom-loving Americans to advance the noble cause of Liberty is through the Republican Party.
Doc Holliday
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Gunny Hartman said:

Though often on the right path, unfortunately many if not most libertarians are similar to Democrats in the respect that they are unrealistic about what can actually happen and what works in the real world. So Doc is right, the best chance for freedom-loving Americans to advance the noble cause of Liberty is through the Republican Party.
Yes. Some libertarians toe the line with anarchy or ideas that would give power to Democrats.

For example: Freedom of movement, no borders is a great idea if reality matched it...but it doesn't. The reality is they will vote primarily for Democrats, will have a hard time assimilating because they bring negative values from the countries they leave. That and it's unfair to those contributing to the system already who now have to share their taxpayer money and see less benefits.

Many of the posters on here don't realize it's all just a big game. They don't understand the fire they're playing with. Many pro libertarian ideas fuel and give power to the two party system.

But I see a solution. If you wanted to legalize marijuana for example...your best bet would be voting in Rand Paul types who see the government regulating it as inappropriate.
quash
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Doc Holliday said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Though often on the right path, unfortunately many if not most libertarians are similar to Democrats in the respect that they are unrealistic about what can actually happen and what works in the real world. So Doc is right, the best chance for freedom-loving Americans to advance the noble cause of Liberty is through the Republican Party.
Yes. Some libertarians toe the line with anarchy or ideas that would give power to Democrats.

For example: Freedom of movement, no borders is a great idea if reality matched it...but it doesn't. The reality is they will vote primarily for Democrats, will have a hard time assimilating because they bring negative values from the countries they leave. That and it's unfair to those contributing to the system already who now have to share their taxpayer money and see less benefits.

Many of the posters on here don't realize it's all just a big game. They don't understand the fire they're playing with. Many pro libertarian ideas fuel and give power to the two party system.

But I see a solution. If you wanted to legalize marijuana for example...your best bet would be voting in Rand Paul types who see the government regulating it as inappropriate.

Bottom line is you're not a statist except when you are.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Doc Holliday
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quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Though often on the right path, unfortunately many if not most libertarians are similar to Democrats in the respect that they are unrealistic about what can actually happen and what works in the real world. So Doc is right, the best chance for freedom-loving Americans to advance the noble cause of Liberty is through the Republican Party.
Yes. Some libertarians toe the line with anarchy or ideas that would give power to Democrats.

For example: Freedom of movement, no borders is a great idea if reality matched it...but it doesn't. The reality is they will vote primarily for Democrats, will have a hard time assimilating because they bring negative values from the countries they leave. That and it's unfair to those contributing to the system already who now have to share their taxpayer money and see less benefits.

Many of the posters on here don't realize it's all just a big game. They don't understand the fire they're playing with. Many pro libertarian ideas fuel and give power to the two party system.

But I see a solution. If you wanted to legalize marijuana for example...your best bet would be voting in Rand Paul types who see the government regulating it as inappropriate.

Bottom line is you're not a statist except when you are.
Yes exactly.
You work on behalf of the judiciary function of the state I might remind you,

By its nature, the state uses coercion of the type that libertarians oppose, but that is not inherently wrong either.
The state should be there to uphold the inalienable rights of humans.

If libertarians shaped the world, the state would do none of the things you oppose, but people would...and there would be nothing you could do to stop it.
Doc Holliday
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Also quash, be careful making moves that would give Democrats power in their quest for socialism.
You are living in a time where we're right on the cusp of Democrats gaining total power.

Socialism seeks to eliminate "injustice" by transferring rights and responsibilities from individuals and families to the state.

You're inadvertently promoting a ladder of statism when you take pro Democrat positions.
quash
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Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Though often on the right path, unfortunately many if not most libertarians are similar to Democrats in the respect that they are unrealistic about what can actually happen and what works in the real world. So Doc is right, the best chance for freedom-loving Americans to advance the noble cause of Liberty is through the Republican Party.
Yes. Some libertarians toe the line with anarchy or ideas that would give power to Democrats.

For example: Freedom of movement, no borders is a great idea if reality matched it...but it doesn't. The reality is they will vote primarily for Democrats, will have a hard time assimilating because they bring negative values from the countries they leave. That and it's unfair to those contributing to the system already who now have to share their taxpayer money and see less benefits.

Many of the posters on here don't realize it's all just a big game. They don't understand the fire they're playing with. Many pro libertarian ideas fuel and give power to the two party system.

But I see a solution. If you wanted to legalize marijuana for example...your best bet would be voting in Rand Paul types who see the government regulating it as inappropriate.

Bottom line is you're not a statist except when you are.
Yes exactly.
You work on behalf of the judiciary function of the state I might remind you,

By its nature, the state uses coercion of the type that libertarians oppose, but that is not inherently wrong either.
The state should be there to uphold the inalienable rights of humans.

If libertarians shaped the world, the state would do none of the things you oppose, but people would...and there would be nothing you could do to stop it.
The judiciary is an essential function of the state,as is defense. Think Rule of Law.

And yes, using coercion to separate you from your earnings is inherently wrong. The state does serve to protect inherent rights, and it does so with defense of its citizens and of their rights, which mostly happens in court.

There's a reason Dick the Butcher says "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." in Henry VI. Jack Cade wants to introduce massive chaos to help him take over. Getting rid of the rule of law is an important step.

Kinda like when your boy wants to use an EO to change citizenship guaranteed by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Florda_mike
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quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Though often on the right path, unfortunately many if not most libertarians are similar to Democrats in the respect that they are unrealistic about what can actually happen and what works in the real world. So Doc is right, the best chance for freedom-loving Americans to advance the noble cause of Liberty is through the Republican Party.
Yes. Some libertarians toe the line with anarchy or ideas that would give power to Democrats.

For example: Freedom of movement, no borders is a great idea if reality matched it...but it doesn't. The reality is they will vote primarily for Democrats, will have a hard time assimilating because they bring negative values from the countries they leave. That and it's unfair to those contributing to the system already who now have to share their taxpayer money and see less benefits.

Many of the posters on here don't realize it's all just a big game. They don't understand the fire they're playing with. Many pro libertarian ideas fuel and give power to the two party system.

But I see a solution. If you wanted to legalize marijuana for example...your best bet would be voting in Rand Paul types who see the government regulating it as inappropriate.

Bottom line is you're not a statist except when you are.
Yes exactly.
You work on behalf of the judiciary function of the state I might remind you,

By its nature, the state uses coercion of the type that libertarians oppose, but that is not inherently wrong either.
The state should be there to uphold the inalienable rights of humans.

If libertarians shaped the world, the state would do none of the things you oppose, but people would...and there would be nothing you could do to stop it.
The judiciary is an essential function of the state,as is defense. Think Rule of Law.

And yes, using coercion to separate you from your earnings is inherently wrong. The state does serve to protect inherent rights, and it does so with defense of its citizens and of their rights, which mostly happens in court.

There's a reason Dick the Butcher says "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." in Henry VI. Jack Cade wants to introduce massive chaos to help him take over. Getting rid of the rule of law is an important step.

Kinda like when your boy wants to use an EO to change citizenship guaranteed by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.


Doc, this Quash dude is friggin hopeless

Don't waste time thinking he's your friend or that he's open minded

Quash the robot or useful idiot is how to best visualize him
quash
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Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Though often on the right path, unfortunately many if not most libertarians are similar to Democrats in the respect that they are unrealistic about what can actually happen and what works in the real world. So Doc is right, the best chance for freedom-loving Americans to advance the noble cause of Liberty is through the Republican Party.
Yes. Some libertarians toe the line with anarchy or ideas that would give power to Democrats.

For example: Freedom of movement, no borders is a great idea if reality matched it...but it doesn't. The reality is they will vote primarily for Democrats, will have a hard time assimilating because they bring negative values from the countries they leave. That and it's unfair to those contributing to the system already who now have to share their taxpayer money and see less benefits.

Many of the posters on here don't realize it's all just a big game. They don't understand the fire they're playing with. Many pro libertarian ideas fuel and give power to the two party system.

But I see a solution. If you wanted to legalize marijuana for example...your best bet would be voting in Rand Paul types who see the government regulating it as inappropriate.

Bottom line is you're not a statist except when you are.
Yes exactly.
You work on behalf of the judiciary function of the state I might remind you,

By its nature, the state uses coercion of the type that libertarians oppose, but that is not inherently wrong either.
The state should be there to uphold the inalienable rights of humans.

If libertarians shaped the world, the state would do none of the things you oppose, but people would...and there would be nothing you could do to stop it.
The judiciary is an essential function of the state,as is defense. Think Rule of Law.

And yes, using coercion to separate you from your earnings is inherently wrong. The state does serve to protect inherent rights, and it does so with defense of its citizens and of their rights, which mostly happens in court.

There's a reason Dick the Butcher says "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." in Henry VI. Jack Cade wants to introduce massive chaos to help him take over. Getting rid of the rule of law is an important step.

Kinda like when your boy wants to use an EO to change citizenship guaranteed by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.


Doc, this Quash dude is friggin hopeless

Don't waste time thinking he's your friend or that he's open minded

Quash the robot or useful idiot is how to best visualize him

You might want to get that drool off your chin.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
YoakDaddy
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Doc Holliday said:

TexasScientist said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Because they're unrealistic and we're all slaves to a two party system.

You're the real ideologue here in that you think it's possible to escape the two party system: you live in that unrealistic realm. I've accepted it. Independents are never going to win unfortunately.

What's realistic is that if Republicans lose in midterms then nothing will get done and this country will shift to the hard radical left.

I just think there are better options than slavery.
I agree.

But you don't end slavery without a revolution or civil war if history has taught us anything.

I would love nothing more than this country going libertarian and using common sense, logic and avoiding emotion to run this country. You know, things like balancing a budget for example.

But there's a conditioned system in place fortified with trillions of dollars, group think, lobbying, corruption, mega corporations and the military industrial complex. There's too many hands in it and they will never allow their special interests to be challenged.

For example: you see the subject of illegal immigration as a problem...I see it as politicians using this problem to make millions and to run on...which is why they DON"T want to offer solutions.
Do you understand where I'm coming from?

There's an elite club...and you ain't in it.

This is the sole reason I support Trump. He's outright ****ing with the status quo and challenging this elite club. Sure he's an *******...a moron a times, but he's the only person crazy enough and capable of messing with them.
I think you just made the case for going Libertarian.
I made the case for hijacking the Republican party with libertarian values and voting out the establishment.
Which is the only solution and exactly what's happening.

The GOP has been garbage since Bush 2. They realized their voters are actually anti establishment...not pro Republican values. We're not far right racist conservative baptists who hate gays and want a white world or middle eastern wars.

I see Obama and Bush as the same with just different labels.

You've taken The Founder's Red Pill! Welcome, friend!
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Actually, you launch endless lectures about how much better and smarter you are then anyone, then abandon discussions once your contentions are challenged, or simply fall apart.

It's a bit like ol' Beto. The New York Times, no friend of Ted Cruz, published an interesting account of the time O'Rourke tried to steal property from poor HIspanics, so his billionaire father-in-law could make tons o' profit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/politics/beto-orourke-el-paso-texas-senate.html

Like the standard quash claim, ol' Skateboard O'Rourke does not hold up to inspection.
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Well you really showed us by posting that tweet of some random dude's opinion about Ted Cruz
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Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Actually, you launch endless lectures about how much better and smarter you are then anyone, then abandon discussions once your contentions are challenged, or simply fall apart.

It's a bit like ol' Beto. The New York Times, no friend of Ted Cruz, published an interesting account of the time O'Rourke tried to steal property from poor HIspanics, so his billionaire father-in-law could make tons o' profit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/politics/beto-orourke-el-paso-texas-senate.html

Like the standard quash claim, ol' Skateboard O'Rourke does not hold up to inspection.

Just like Trump's daddy
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Gunny Hartman said:

Well you really showed us by posting that tweet of some random dude's opinion about Ted Cruz


The point of the post is the 2 Cruz quotes, not the rando's opinion.
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J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Actually, you launch endless lectures about how much better and smarter you are then anyone, then abandon discussions once your contentions are challenged, or simply fall apart.

It's a bit like ol' Beto. The New York Times, no friend of Ted Cruz, published an interesting account of the time O'Rourke tried to steal property from poor HIspanics, so his billionaire father-in-law could make tons o' profit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/politics/beto-orourke-el-paso-texas-senate.html

Like the standard quash claim, ol' Skateboard O'Rourke does not hold up to inspection.

Just like Trump's daddy

Nope. Predictable flail on your part, but desperately wrong, once again.
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HuMcK said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Well you really showed us by posting that tweet of some random dude's opinion about Ted Cruz


The point of the post is the 2 Cruz quotes, not the rando's opinion.
Nothing like a clip from fiction to try to convince us of your veracity .
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Oldbear83 said:

J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Actually, you launch endless lectures about how much better and smarter you are then anyone, then abandon discussions once your contentions are challenged, or simply fall apart.

It's a bit like ol' Beto. The New York Times, no friend of Ted Cruz, published an interesting account of the time O'Rourke tried to steal property from poor HIspanics, so his billionaire father-in-law could make tons o' profit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/politics/beto-orourke-el-paso-texas-senate.html

Like the standard quash claim, ol' Skateboard O'Rourke does not hold up to inspection.

Just like Trump's daddy

Nope. Predictable flail on your part, but desperately wrong, once again.
Really? Where did daddy trumps build his apt? Whom were his tenant base? The Dominicans say HI
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J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Actually, you launch endless lectures about how much better and smarter you are then anyone, then abandon discussions once your contentions are challenged, or simply fall apart.

It's a bit like ol' Beto. The New York Times, no friend of Ted Cruz, published an interesting account of the time O'Rourke tried to steal property from poor HIspanics, so his billionaire father-in-law could make tons o' profit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/politics/beto-orourke-el-paso-texas-senate.html

Like the standard quash claim, ol' Skateboard O'Rourke does not hold up to inspection.

Just like Trump's daddy

Nope. Predictable flail on your part, but desperately wrong, once again.
Really? Where did daddy trumps build his apt? Whom were his tenant base? The Dominicans say HI


Tenants were people he could trust to pay rent

That's how a man makes money, stays in business and gets wealthy btw

You should learn from it instead of condemning it

Then maybe, eventually, you'd get tired of all this winning instead of being a whining loser
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J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Actually, you launch endless lectures about how much better and smarter you are then anyone, then abandon discussions once your contentions are challenged, or simply fall apart.

It's a bit like ol' Beto. The New York Times, no friend of Ted Cruz, published an interesting account of the time O'Rourke tried to steal property from poor HIspanics, so his billionaire father-in-law could make tons o' profit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/politics/beto-orourke-el-paso-texas-senate.html

Like the standard quash claim, ol' Skateboard O'Rourke does not hold up to inspection.

Just like Trump's daddy

Nope. Predictable flail on your part, but desperately wrong, once again.
Really? Where did daddy trumps build his apt? Whom were his tenant base? The Dominicans say HI
So you conflate legal, individual action with illegal government action. No surprise, I guess.
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J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Actually, you launch endless lectures about how much better and smarter you are then anyone, then abandon discussions once your contentions are challenged, or simply fall apart.

It's a bit like ol' Beto. The New York Times, no friend of Ted Cruz, published an interesting account of the time O'Rourke tried to steal property from poor HIspanics, so his billionaire father-in-law could make tons o' profit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/politics/beto-orourke-el-paso-texas-senate.html

Like the standard quash claim, ol' Skateboard O'Rourke does not hold up to inspection.

Just like Trump's daddy

You voting for O'Rourke?
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Doc Holliday said:

J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

YoakDaddy said:

Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Actually, you launch endless lectures about how much better and smarter you are then anyone, then abandon discussions once your contentions are challenged, or simply fall apart.

It's a bit like ol' Beto. The New York Times, no friend of Ted Cruz, published an interesting account of the time O'Rourke tried to steal property from poor HIspanics, so his billionaire father-in-law could make tons o' profit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/politics/beto-orourke-el-paso-texas-senate.html

Like the standard quash claim, ol' Skateboard O'Rourke does not hold up to inspection.

Just like Trump's daddy

You voting for O'Rourke?


Ha

Of course
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Osodecentx said:

HuMcK said:

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HuMcK said:

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HuMcK said:

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HuMcK said:

Why Democrats lose: episode infinity.


Pretty sure Democrats lose when folks start figuring out they're nothing but unhinged leftists
A lot of us were considering Beto. Then Kavanaugh happened

I can't help but roll my eyes when I see this kind of weak logic. Be real with yourself (and us), you weren't really considering voting for him if somehow the Kavanaugh confirmation fight, a situation Beto had literally no involvement in, changed your vote.

Not sure what so difficult about that statement to understand. The Kavanaugh hearing demonstrated what happens when unhinged Democrats are in control. Normal, sane Americans want to avoid that kind of madness in our government.

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I can't stand Cruz, but I also can't contribute to Senators Spartacus, Feinstein, et al. My earlier posts said I wouldn't vote for Cruz, but Democrat Senators on the Judiciary Committee flipped me.

Beto said nothing in defense of due process or fairness. I won't be a part of adding to their tribe.


Interesting logic, I suppose going forward I can assume y'alls support of Cruz is also equally supportive of Steve King's explicit racism?
I don't know who Steve King is, but I know how I feel about this.

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I fail to see how this relates to Beto in any way. I get it, you don't want to vote for him, but you don't have to make stuff up and reach for straws to justify that decision.

The fact that you can't seem to recognize that Beta and all his Democrat cohorts fervently support this type of madness tells us all we need to know about your reasoning ability.
See my previous comment about your assumed support for racists like Steve King.
Just looked King up.

I don't support Steve King or Beto

You sure? Cruz definitely does, this reiteration of support comes after King endorsed explicitly racist candidates in Europe and Canada, saying if they ran on their platforms in America "they would be Republicans".
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HuMcK said:

Osodecentx said:

HuMcK said:

Gunny Hartman said:

HuMcK said:

Osodecentx said:

HuMcK said:

Gunny Hartman said:

HuMcK said:

Osodecentx said:

Gunny Hartman said:

HuMcK said:

IWhy Democrats lose: episode infinity.


Pretty sure Democrats lose when folks start figuring out they're nothing but unhinged leftists
A lot of us were considering Beto. Then Kavanaugh happened

I can't help but roll my eyes when I see this kind of weak logic. Be real with yourself (and us), you weren't really considering voting for him if somehow the Kavanaugh confirmation fight, a situation Beto had literally no involvement in, changed your vote.

Not sure what so difficult about that statement to understand. The Kavanaugh hearing demonstrated what happens when unhinged Democrats are in control. Normal, sane Americans want to avoid that kind of madness in our government.

Quote:

I can't stand Cruz, but I also can't contribute to Senators Spartacus, Feinstein, et al. My earlier posts said I wouldn't vote for Cruz, but Democrat Senators on the Judiciary Committee flipped me.

Beto said nothing in defense of due process or fairness. I won't be a part of adding to their tribe.


Interesting logic, I suppose going forward I can assume y'alls support of Cruz is also equally supportive of Steve King's explicit racism?
I don't know who Steve King is, but I know how I feel about this.

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Date: 8/25/2018, 9/29/2018, 10/27/2018, 12/29/2018
Room: Freed-Montrose Library Meeting Room
Time: 2:00PM - 2:45PM
Type: Featured Event, Storytimes
Age Group: appropriate for all ages
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I fail to see how this relates to Beto in any way. I get it, you don't want to vote for him, but you don't have to make stuff up and reach for straws to justify that decision.

The fact that you can't seem to recognize that Beta and all his Democrat cohorts fervently support this type of madness tells us all we need to know about your reasoning ability.
See my previous comment about your assumed support for racists like Steve King.
Just looked King up.

I don't support Steve King or Beto

You sure? Cruz definitely does, this reiteration of support comes after King endorsed explicitly racist candidates in Europe and Canada, saying if they ran on their platforms in America "they would be Republicans".

He's absolutely right. Trump is forcing the base to declare their racism.
 
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