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Gunny Hartman
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Buddha Bear said:

riflebear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

So basically this thread urges people to vote the arty no matter who is running. Isnt this what we all called being a party shill 10 years ago?

Dont think about the issues or the candidates just vote a straight ticket no matter what.
Not really. If a Dem had good ideas I would consider voting for them. But so far I haven't seen any ideas that will help the country, the exact opposite.

Dem Platform - tell me if I'm wrong on any of these

- Do away w/ ICE
- Let illegals come into our country freely
- Sanctuary Cities
- Encourage mobs to go after conservatives and their elected officials
- Abortions encouraged
- Let illegals vote in elections and use up all our benefits jumping in front of real immigrants who are going through the lawful process.
- Stop Trump from continuing 4% GDP growth, take away tax cuts - what are their plans to do better?
- Continue Russia investigations even when Mueller is done - great use of taxpayer money
- Try to Impeach trump w/ no evidence - great use of taxpayer money
- ReOpen investigations into Kavanaugh - great use of taxpayer money
- Try to fix ObamaCare when they knew it was a disaster from the beginning and would blow up around election time only to blame their mistakes on the GOP - ultimately leading to Single Payer which they have no admitted was their plan all along but lied about it back in 2008 to get it passed
- Ultimately want the United States to become a Socialist country

Am I missing anything? There is literally nothing on that list I want to vote for.

Great recap of Hannity and Limbaugh's shows. Any thoughts that don't contain their daily rhetoric? Glad I don't get the news around my part of the world. It's brainwashing both sides.

He just summarized what's coming out of current leading Democrat's mouths as to what they stand for. What's news got to do with that?
Forest Bueller
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Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.

Forest Bueller
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

So basically this thread urges people to vote the arty no matter who is running. Isnt this what we all called being a party shill 10 years ago?

Dont think about the issues or the candidates just vote a straight ticket no matter what.
Never have done it once, but the direction that some democrats are wanting to go, which started with Bernie, and I thought it was an aberration, but now others have taken up the socialist mantle, that is not a direction our country should be looking.

Very understandable for the mid-terms.
HuMcK
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Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.
Gunny Hartman
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Boy, won't all these Beto supporters across the country be so surprised when they discover that the "democratic" socialism they pined for created a two class society of the Haves and Have Nots, with the Have's being a tiny percentage of the population. Oh the irony.
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HuMcK said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/beto-orourke-hits-paydirt-bernie-sanders-money-machine/
ScottS
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HuMcK said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.


In the debate Tuesday night Beto said He was for Medicare for all.
HuMcK
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

HuMcK said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/beto-orourke-hits-paydirt-bernie-sanders-money-machine/

I didn't see anything in that article about what policies Beto supports, let alone socialist ones.
HuMcK
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ScottS said:

HuMcK said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.


In the debate Tuesday night Beto said He was for Medicare for all.

I missed that debate. Nothing personal, but do you have a source for that or are you interpreting something he said to get that? Because it contradicts what he explicitly said in the first debate about his support for having a public option on the ACA Exchanges.
CSIBear
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HuMcK said:

ScottS said:

HuMcK said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.


In the debate Tuesday night Beto said He was for Medicare for all.

I missed that debate. Nothing personal, but do you have a source for that or are you interpreting something he said to get that? Because it contradicts what he explicitly said in the first debate about his support for having a public option on the ACA Exchanges.
Perhaps you should follow the candidate a bit closer before you try to spread a lie like beto doesn't support any socialist policies.
HuMcK
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CSIBear said:

HuMcK said:

ScottS said:

HuMcK said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.


In the debate Tuesday night Beto said He was for Medicare for all.

I missed that debate. Nothing personal, but do you have a source for that or are you interpreting something he said to get that? Because it contradicts what he explicitly said in the first debate about his support for having a public option on the ACA Exchanges.
Perhaps you should follow the candidate a bit closer before you try to spread a lie like beto doesn't support any socialist policies.

Got any proof? I literally said what I heard Beto say with my own ears in the comment you responded to.

In fact, Beto's own website outlines his policy stances on healthcare, and whaddya know his preferred solution is in fact not Medicare for all. Maybe it's you who should stfu and get informed.
https://betofortexas.com/issue/healthcare/
Doc Holliday
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HuMcK said:

CSIBear said:

HuMcK said:

ScottS said:

HuMcK said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.


In the debate Tuesday night Beto said He was for Medicare for all.

I missed that debate. Nothing personal, but do you have a source for that or are you interpreting something he said to get that? Because it contradicts what he explicitly said in the first debate about his support for having a public option on the ACA Exchanges.
Perhaps you should follow the candidate a bit closer before you try to spread a lie like beto doesn't support any socialist policies.

Got any proof? I literally said what I heard Beto say with my own ears in the comment you responded to.

In fact, Beto's own website outlines his policy stances on healthcare, and whaddya know his preferred solution is in fact not Medicare for all. Maybe it's you who should stfu and get informed.
https://betofortexas.com/issue/healthcare/
LOL

The link you provided included this from the fake Hispanics website:

Quote:

Achieving universal healthcare coverage whether it be through a single payer system, a dual system, or otherwise so that we can ensure everyone is able to see a provider when it will do the most good and will deliver healthcare in the most affordable, effective way possible.

I think it is you who needs to stop telling others to get informed. Epic fail dude.
HuMcK
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Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

CSIBear said:

HuMcK said:

ScottS said:

HuMcK said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.


In the debate Tuesday night Beto said He was for Medicare for all.

I missed that debate. Nothing personal, but do you have a source for that or are you interpreting something he said to get that? Because it contradicts what he explicitly said in the first debate about his support for having a public option on the ACA Exchanges.
Perhaps you should follow the candidate a bit closer before you try to spread a lie like beto doesn't support any socialist policies.

Got any proof? I literally said what I heard Beto say with my own ears in the comment you responded to.

In fact, Beto's own website outlines his policy stances on healthcare, and whaddya know his preferred solution is in fact not Medicare for all. Maybe it's you who should stfu and get informed.
https://betofortexas.com/issue/healthcare/
LOL

The link you provided included this from the fake Hispanics website:

Quote:

Achieving universal healthcare coverage whether it be through a single payer system, a dual system, or otherwise so that we can ensure everyone is able to see a provider when it will do the most good and will deliver healthcare in the most affordable, effective way possible.

I think it is you who needs to stop telling others to get informed. Epic fail dude.


That's the most lukewarm "support" for a policy he didnt even name I've ever seen. Sounds like he just wants to move the ball forward and help people without boxing himself into supporting only one path to get there. Interesting that you neglected to quote the entire page of proposals that preceded that paragraph.
ScottS
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HuMcK said:

ScottS said:

HuMcK said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.


In the debate Tuesday night Beto said He was for Medicare for all.

I missed that debate. Nothing personal, but do you have a source for that or are you interpreting something he said to get that? Because it contradicts what he explicitly said in the first debate about his support for having a public option on the ACA Exchanges.


I'm the source. I watched the debate. But hey, u can watch it. A simple Google will get u all u need. Try "is beto for Medicare for all".
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Beto-mania gets serious


The odds are against O'Rourke. But the crowds love him. Will any of that matter in November?


At a town hall last Friday morning in Hillsboro, just north of Waco, a standing-room crowd of a couple hundred people, most there to hear O'Rourke, packed into folding chairs and leaned against the blue walls of a county courthouse in historic downtown.

While O'Rourke no longer uses phrases like "single-payer" or "Medicare for all," the crowd cheered when he talked about the need for "universal, guaranteed, high-quality health care for all."


Especially after watching the debate I'm very convinced single payer is his end game goal, going to an "official" website is kind of like going to a churches official website, where their "what we believe" always sounds good, even the near cult type church, but it's what goes on inside that tells the story.
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Gunny Hartman said:

Buddha Bear said:

riflebear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

So basically this thread urges people to vote the arty no matter who is running. Isnt this what we all called being a party shill 10 years ago?

Dont think about the issues or the candidates just vote a straight ticket no matter what.
Not really. If a Dem had good ideas I would consider voting for them. But so far I haven't seen any ideas that will help the country, the exact opposite.

Dem Platform - tell me if I'm wrong on any of these

- Do away w/ ICE
- Let illegals come into our country freely
- Sanctuary Cities
- Encourage mobs to go after conservatives and their elected officials
- Abortions encouraged
- Let illegals vote in elections and use up all our benefits jumping in front of real immigrants who are going through the lawful process.
- Stop Trump from continuing 4% GDP growth, take away tax cuts - what are their plans to do better?
- Continue Russia investigations even when Mueller is done - great use of taxpayer money
- Try to Impeach trump w/ no evidence - great use of taxpayer money
- ReOpen investigations into Kavanaugh - great use of taxpayer money
- Try to fix ObamaCare when they knew it was a disaster from the beginning and would blow up around election time only to blame their mistakes on the GOP - ultimately leading to Single Payer which they have no admitted was their plan all along but lied about it back in 2008 to get it passed
- Ultimately want the United States to become a Socialist country

Am I missing anything? There is literally nothing on that list I want to vote for.

Great recap of Hannity and Limbaugh's shows. Any thoughts that don't contain their daily rhetoric? Glad I don't get the news around my part of the world. It's brainwashing both sides.

He just summarized what's coming out of current leading Democrat's mouths as to what they stand for. What's news got to do with that?
As Gunny said, literally everything I typed above has been said by leading Democrats and now some of them have been asked to stop saying these things as they know it hurts their chances in Nov. Imagine that, other Democrats telling Democrats to hide their positions until after the election, does that sound honest to you?

Buddha Bear - I've never watched Limbaugh nor do I follow him. I occasionally watch Hannity for their deep state/Russia coverage when they have Solomon and/or Sara Carter on to follow that saga but I get most of my news from both conservative & l liberal outlets on twitter. I actually fast forward thru Hannity's monologue to get to his panel and watch for a few minutes a couple nights a week.

I'm curious - do you want any of those items I listed? There are many more Dems have repeatedly said but those were just the ones I could think of off the top of my head late at night in a quick post.
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HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

CSIBear said:

HuMcK said:

ScottS said:

HuMcK said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.


In the debate Tuesday night Beto said He was for Medicare for all.

I missed that debate. Nothing personal, but do you have a source for that or are you interpreting something he said to get that? Because it contradicts what he explicitly said in the first debate about his support for having a public option on the ACA Exchanges.
Perhaps you should follow the candidate a bit closer before you try to spread a lie like beto doesn't support any socialist policies.

Got any proof? I literally said what I heard Beto say with my own ears in the comment you responded to.

In fact, Beto's own website outlines his policy stances on healthcare, and whaddya know his preferred solution is in fact not Medicare for all. Maybe it's you who should stfu and get informed.
https://betofortexas.com/issue/healthcare/
LOL

The link you provided included this from the fake Hispanics website:

Quote:

Achieving universal healthcare coverage whether it be through a single payer system, a dual system, or otherwise so that we can ensure everyone is able to see a provider when it will do the most good and will deliver healthcare in the most affordable, effective way possible.

I think it is you who needs to stop telling others to get informed. Epic fail dude.


That's the most lukewarm "support" for a policy he didnt even name I've ever seen. Sounds like he just wants to move the ball forward and help people without boxing himself into supporting only one path to get there. Interesting that you neglected to quote the entire page of proposals that preceded that paragraph.

See this is how folks like you get screwed up and then end up voting for leftist maniacs like Beto. Just like it was revealed about Claire McCaskill this week via undercover video, these leftist (not liberal, Leftist) politicians know that in red states they stand no chance of getting elected if they are honest about the policies they truly support, such as rampant abortion and socialized medicine. McCaskill is a huge proponent of wide sweeping gun control and a rabid abortionist, but if you look on her website you won't see nary a mention of any of that. That's why it took undercover video from Project Veritas to reveal what she truly believes.

Beto policy-wise is no different from her; they are two peas in the same pod. That's why you have to pay close attention when they give you little clues like what was stated above: "achieving Universal Health Care coverage" can never happen in the marketplace where there is individual choice because not everyone is going to buy it. So what's the alternative? Well quite obviously, it must be mandated by law. So RIGHT FREAKING THERE he's telling you his policy position in carefully couched language using codewords that will be recognized by proponents of a single-payer system, but you're either not bright enough or not paying close enough attention to understand it for yourself.
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Forest Bueller said:





Beto-mania gets serious


The odds are against O'Rourke. But the crowds love him. Will any of that matter in November?


At a town hall last Friday morning in Hillsboro, just north of Waco, a standing-room crowd of a couple hundred people, most there to hear O'Rourke, packed into folding chairs and leaned against the blue walls of a county courthouse in historic downtown.

While O'Rourke no longer uses phrases like "single-payer" or "Medicare for all," the crowd cheered when he talked about the need for "universal, guaranteed, high-quality health care for all."


Especially after watching the debate I'm very convinced single payer is his end game goal, going to an "official" website is kind of like going to a churches official website, where their "what we believe" always sounds good, even the near cult type church, but it's what goes on inside that tells the story.
I can understand the confusion, but "universal healthcare" is not equal to "single-payer" (Medicare for all). Germany is a good example of a healthcare system that provides universal coverage without being a purely single-payer system. I really don't get what's so hard to understand about lowering per-capita healthcare costs through universal coverage, the entire First and Second World other than the US have made it work for much less cost than what Americans are paying and far fewer medical bankruptcies.
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https://m.facebook.com/betoorourke/posts/1332704096779297
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Gunny Hartman said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

CSIBear said:

HuMcK said:

ScottS said:

HuMcK said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.


In the debate Tuesday night Beto said He was for Medicare for all.

I missed that debate. Nothing personal, but do you have a source for that or are you interpreting something he said to get that? Because it contradicts what he explicitly said in the first debate about his support for having a public option on the ACA Exchanges.
Perhaps you should follow the candidate a bit closer before you try to spread a lie like beto doesn't support any socialist policies.

Got any proof? I literally said what I heard Beto say with my own ears in the comment you responded to.

In fact, Beto's own website outlines his policy stances on healthcare, and whaddya know his preferred solution is in fact not Medicare for all. Maybe it's you who should stfu and get informed.
https://betofortexas.com/issue/healthcare/
LOL

The link you provided included this from the fake Hispanics website:

Quote:

Achieving universal healthcare coverage whether it be through a single payer system, a dual system, or otherwise so that we can ensure everyone is able to see a provider when it will do the most good and will deliver healthcare in the most affordable, effective way possible.

I think it is you who needs to stop telling others to get informed. Epic fail dude.


That's the most lukewarm "support" for a policy he didnt even name I've ever seen. Sounds like he just wants to move the ball forward and help people without boxing himself into supporting only one path to get there. Interesting that you neglected to quote the entire page of proposals that preceded that paragraph.

See this is how folks like you get screwed up and then end up voting for leftist maniacs like Beto. Just like it was revealed about Claire McCaskill this week via undercover video, these leftist (not liberal, Leftist) politicians know that in red states they stand no chance of getting elected if they are honest about the policies they truly support, such as rampant abortion and socialized medicine. McCaskill is a huge proponent of wide sweeping gun control and a rabid abortionist, but if you look on her website you won't see nary a mention of any of that. That's why it took undercover video from Project Veritas to reveal what she truly believes.

Beto policy-wise is no different from her; they are two peas in the same pod. That's why you have to pay close attention when they give you little clues like what was stated above: "achieving Universal Health Care coverage" can never happen in the marketplace where there is individual choice because not everyone is going to buy it. So what's the alternative? Well quite obviously, it must be mandated by law. So RIGHT FREAKING THERE he's telling you his policy position in carefully couched language using codewords that will be recognized by proponents of a single-payer system, but you're either not bright enough or not paying close enough attention to understand it for yourself.
Speaking of being not bright enough to understand, apparently you don't understand that Single-Payer is not the only path to universal health-coverage. Like my previous comment said, Germany is a good example of universal coverage without a pure single-payer system (nevermind that the world's currently existing single-payer systems have similar levels of care for much lower costs than the American-style system). As for Project Veritas, they got McCaskill on video supporting a gun control policy she voted for in 2013, but their super-bright followers (you) aren't informed enough to know that or look it up.
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ScottS said:

https://m.facebook.com/betoorourke/posts/1332704096779297
Seems like he's backed off from that since 2017, the pic on that page directs to a dead link.
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https://www.statesman.com/news/20170923/rep-beto-orourke-outlines-four-step-plan-to-medicare-for-all
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He clearly said it in Tuesdays debate
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Gunny Hartman said:

Gunny Hartman said:

MilliVanilli said:

riflebear said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Yeah I watched it and it's still a demonic response. Nothing normal or human about that.
Yup - Very troubled young man. Hope they go after him, the left is unhinged right now and it's only getting worse. Imagine if the GOP holds on to Congress in 3 weeks.
The Senate will probably become more GOP by a few seats, possibly as many as 54 seats.

The House is a toss up, could go either way, whoever has it will be narrow.

Never fear young Patriot, just follow @LarrySchweikart https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart?s=09 and you'll know what's actually going to happen. The dude absolutely nailed 2016, and (at least at this point) he says both houses are staying red, with the Senate actually gaining Republican seats.

And just like that, right as I mentioned him, Larry put up a thread explaining how he divines election results. You can find it here:





And if you listen closely to the media narratives, you can hear the Dems starting to ramp down expectations. I think the recent incandescent remarks by Hillary, Holder, and Kaine are perhaps positioning for continuing resistance after the election (should they fall short in the House).

The blue wave was never there. Senate not in play for a single day. All the reporting about it was to fire up the Dem base to see if they could win the House. And they might. . It's all had good effect in that regard. But they overplayed it and independents are not joining the mob the way they'd need to for the blue wave to form

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ScottS said:

https://www.statesman.com/news/20170923/rep-beto-orourke-outlines-four-step-plan-to-medicare-for-all
Now this is a source that says what you want it to. Even here in this interview from September 2017 though, his support for Medicare for all is more wishy-washy than his explicit call for a public option on the exchanges.
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Watch the debate please
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whiterock said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Gunny Hartman said:

MilliVanilli said:

riflebear said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Yeah I watched it and it's still a demonic response. Nothing normal or human about that.
Yup - Very troubled young man. Hope they go after him, the left is unhinged right now and it's only getting worse. Imagine if the GOP holds on to Congress in 3 weeks.
The Senate will probably become more GOP by a few seats, possibly as many as 54 seats.

The House is a toss up, could go either way, whoever has it will be narrow.

Never fear young Patriot, just follow @LarrySchweikart https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart?s=09 and you'll know what's actually going to happen. The dude absolutely nailed 2016, and (at least at this point) he says both houses are staying red, with the Senate actually gaining Republican seats.

And just like that, right as I mentioned him, Larry put up a thread explaining how he divines election results. You can find it here:





And if you listen closely to the media narratives, you can hear the Dems starting to ramp down expectations. I think the recent incandescent remarks by Hillary, Holder, and Kaine are perhaps positioning for continuing resistance after the election (should they fall short in the House).

The blue wave was never there. Senate not in play for a single day. All the reporting about it was to fire up the Dem base to see if they could win the House. And they might. . And it's all had good effect in that regard. But they overplayed it and independent are not joining the mob.


I'm still perplexed by their inability to see how their strategies are backfiring. Then again, they're not smart people.

What they're doing is giving a voice to the radical left, the mobs, the socialists etc. They think it will win people over because it's "refreshing", but in reality, people are not buying it at all, in fact they're running away from it.

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HuMcK said:

Gunny Hartman said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

CSIBear said:

HuMcK said:

ScottS said:

HuMcK said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

He never claimed to be Hispanic. You are the fraud by attributing something him that he never said. I am guessing here but 'O'Rouke' might be a give away that he is not Hispanic.
Uh, if you would looking deeper and not always be reactionary propelled only by emotion, he is a FRAUD because he pretends to want to represent all people Democrats and Republicans equally, which is a blatant lie.

The only people he serves are those democrats easily fooled by his feel good rhetoric.

He wants everything to be socialized eventually and represents the very far left as yourself, who are radically progressive and wish to dismantle and reassemble the way America operates. From top to bottom.

He is antithesis to those who are not the most far left progressives.

He simply comes in a very nice very likable package. Bernie lite if you will.
. He never claimed to be Hispanic. That's a lie. The rest you made up called it a lie. Made up stuff is .,..get this....lying.
No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man.



I get that y'all like to use scary buzzwords and slogans during election season, but what socialist policy does Beto support? He hasn't even come out in favor of Bernie's "Medicare for all" plan, the furthest he goes on that issue is to support a public option on insurance exchanges.


In the debate Tuesday night Beto said He was for Medicare for all.

I missed that debate. Nothing personal, but do you have a source for that or are you interpreting something he said to get that? Because it contradicts what he explicitly said in the first debate about his support for having a public option on the ACA Exchanges.
Perhaps you should follow the candidate a bit closer before you try to spread a lie like beto doesn't support any socialist policies.

Got any proof? I literally said what I heard Beto say with my own ears in the comment you responded to.

In fact, Beto's own website outlines his policy stances on healthcare, and whaddya know his preferred solution is in fact not Medicare for all. Maybe it's you who should stfu and get informed.
https://betofortexas.com/issue/healthcare/
LOL

The link you provided included this from the fake Hispanics website:

Quote:

Achieving universal healthcare coverage whether it be through a single payer system, a dual system, or otherwise so that we can ensure everyone is able to see a provider when it will do the most good and will deliver healthcare in the most affordable, effective way possible.

I think it is you who needs to stop telling others to get informed. Epic fail dude.


That's the most lukewarm "support" for a policy he didnt even name I've ever seen. Sounds like he just wants to move the ball forward and help people without boxing himself into supporting only one path to get there. Interesting that you neglected to quote the entire page of proposals that preceded that paragraph.

See this is how folks like you get screwed up and then end up voting for leftist maniacs like Beto. Just like it was revealed about Claire McCaskill this week via undercover video, these leftist (not liberal, Leftist) politicians know that in red states they stand no chance of getting elected if they are honest about the policies they truly support, such as rampant abortion and socialized medicine. McCaskill is a huge proponent of wide sweeping gun control and a rabid abortionist, but if you look on her website you won't see nary a mention of any of that. That's why it took undercover video from Project Veritas to reveal what she truly believes.

Beto policy-wise is no different from her; they are two peas in the same pod. That's why you have to pay close attention when they give you little clues like what was stated above: "achieving Universal Health Care coverage" can never happen in the marketplace where there is individual choice because not everyone is going to buy it. So what's the alternative? Well quite obviously, it must be mandated by law. So RIGHT FREAKING THERE he's telling you his policy position in carefully couched language using codewords that will be recognized by proponents of a single-payer system, but you're either not bright enough or not paying close enough attention to understand it for yourself.
Speaking of being not bright enough to understand, apparently you don't understand that Single-Payer is not the only path to universal health-coverage. Like my previous comment said, Germany is a good example of universal coverage without a pure single-payer system (nevermind that the world's currently existing single-payer systems have similar levels of care for much lower costs than the American-style system). As for Project Veritas, they got McCaskill on video supporting a gun control policy she voted for in 2013, but their super-bright followers (you) aren't informed enough to know that or look it up.

"Lower costs." LOL. You'll get murdered through taxation and end up like Germany that as of recently only had three jets that they could actually even get up in the air, but yeah sure, the costs are "lower" (while the taxes are much higher) because of that awesome government efficiency.

To be a leftist means to be willfully blind and stupid about economics.
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Doc Holliday said:

whiterock said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Gunny Hartman said:

MilliVanilli said:

riflebear said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Yeah I watched it and it's still a demonic response. Nothing normal or human about that.
Yup - Very troubled young man. Hope they go after him, the left is unhinged right now and it's only getting worse. Imagine if the GOP holds on to Congress in 3 weeks.
The Senate will probably become more GOP by a few seats, possibly as many as 54 seats.

The House is a toss up, could go either way, whoever has it will be narrow.

Never fear young Patriot, just follow @LarrySchweikart https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart?s=09 and you'll know what's actually going to happen. The dude absolutely nailed 2016, and (at least at this point) he says both houses are staying red, with the Senate actually gaining Republican seats.

And just like that, right as I mentioned him, Larry put up a thread explaining how he divines election results. You can find it here:





And if you listen closely to the media narratives, you can hear the Dems starting to ramp down expectations. I think the recent incandescent remarks by Hillary, Holder, and Kaine are perhaps positioning for continuing resistance after the election (should they fall short in the House).

The blue wave was never there. Senate not in play for a single day. All the reporting about it was to fire up the Dem base to see if they could win the House. And they might. . And it's all had good effect in that regard. But they overplayed it and independent are not joining the mob.


I'm still perplexed by their inability to see how their strategies are backfiring. Then again, they're not smart people.

What they're doing is giving a voice to the radical left, the mobs, the socialists etc. They think it will win people over because it's "refreshing", but in reality, people are not buying it at all, in fact they're running away from it.



Mob violence and widespread poverty caused by socialism is always so refreshing
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Gunny Hartman said:

Doc Holliday said:

whiterock said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Gunny Hartman said:

MilliVanilli said:

riflebear said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Yeah I watched it and it's still a demonic response. Nothing normal or human about that.
Yup - Very troubled young man. Hope they go after him, the left is unhinged right now and it's only getting worse. Imagine if the GOP holds on to Congress in 3 weeks.
The Senate will probably become more GOP by a few seats, possibly as many as 54 seats.

The House is a toss up, could go either way, whoever has it will be narrow.

Never fear young Patriot, just follow @LarrySchweikart https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart?s=09 and you'll know what's actually going to happen. The dude absolutely nailed 2016, and (at least at this point) he says both houses are staying red, with the Senate actually gaining Republican seats.

And just like that, right as I mentioned him, Larry put up a thread explaining how he divines election results. You can find it here:





And if you listen closely to the media narratives, you can hear the Dems starting to ramp down expectations. I think the recent incandescent remarks by Hillary, Holder, and Kaine are perhaps positioning for continuing resistance after the election (should they fall short in the House).

The blue wave was never there. Senate not in play for a single day. All the reporting about it was to fire up the Dem base to see if they could win the House. And they might. . And it's all had good effect in that regard. But they overplayed it and independent are not joining the mob.


I'm still perplexed by their inability to see how their strategies are backfiring. Then again, they're not smart people.

What they're doing is giving a voice to the radical left, the mobs, the socialists etc. They think it will win people over because it's "refreshing", but in reality, people are not buying it at all, in fact they're running away from it.



Mob violence and widespread poverty caused by socialism is always so refreshing
I truly think Democrats assume the public will just buy whatever the MSM tells them...and to that regard, much of the public does. State sponsored media worked fantastically for them prior to 2008.

But we're living in a time where people are rapidly questioning government and media: all thanks to rapid expansion of the internet. This forum is a perfect example of what politics looks like today.

You get enough people to call out the BS...others see the BS too.
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Forrest said, "No it isn't, you have lost your mooring. Don't blame it on me. Beto is NOT for the average guy. You don't understand Economics so you don't understand, he is right there with Bernie, not for the common working man.

A individual man making $52,000 a year under the "Bernie" tax plan would increase his taxes by almost $8000 a year, if you took the time to use his taxation calculator.

FREE STUFF is not free, someone has to pay for it, when socialism takes hold, and there are people like Beto trying to make it so, middle class won't feel so middle any longer.

You are clueless about the economic realities of what these progressive socialists are trying to accomplish, please feel free to stay under your rock when it comes to the economic realities, you have yours I get it, start caring about those who haven't gotten there yet. Beto is NOT for the working man."

Well thank you for off topics comment. Beto did not lie about being Hispanic. You never responded to that lie.
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Be careful Cruzers

Beto has been organizing campuses and some areas that have a history of low turnout. Where does his $38 million go?

Early voting starting so we may have some indication of his GOTV effort and efficacy.
Wrecks Quan Dough
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Why do we need universal healthcare? Is there anything else that is not a right that should become one? Universal pool care? Universal pet grooming service?
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Waco1947 said:



Well thank you for off topics comment. Beto did not lie about being Hispanic. You never responded to that lie.
I did show Beto's 'I'm a Hispanic' behavior, he clearly played himself as Latino a la Warren's Native Americana. And you ducked it, as is your wont.

Beto started out as a New Hispanic in El Paso, then switched to New Kennedy when his East Coast backers told him to do that. That was a mistake, as O'Rourke failed to fully exploit either avenue.

The most telling points about O'Rourke are attached to that $38 million he raised. First, that money was from outside Texas, mostly California and New York. This is important because if you look only at donations from Texas, Cruz is well ahead. The second point of interest is that O'Rourke has set aside that money from use in commercials or to help other Democrats. It sure looks as if O'Rourke knows he won't win the Senate race, but he's making sure he gets a nice consolation prize.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Waco1947
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How did he "play himself as Hispanics??" Examples please
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