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Florda_mike
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So nice when this racist sob was gone
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Florda_mike said:

So nice when this racist sob was gone
Nobody had to force you. You're out and proud.
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Latest poll on RCP has Cruz up by 10
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ScottS said:

Latest poll on RCP has Cruz up by 10


^^^ It's higher then!

DeSantis sounded like Trump last night in rally here against the other Soros backed socialist Andrew Fuggin Gillum

Early voting shows massive increase in R voting here from even Trump's in '16

We may defeat an unexpected strong and corrupt socialist candidate here too
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Florda_mike said:

ScottS said:

Latest poll on RCP has Cruz up by 10


^^^ It's higher then!

DeSantis sounded like Trump last night in rally here against the other Soros backed socialist Andrew Fuggin Gillum

Early voting shows massive increase in R voting here from even Trump's in '16

We may defeat an unexpected strong and corrupt socialist candidate here too
Not so fast. A lot of those rednecks in the panhandle had to flea after the hurricane and may not be able to vote.
There could be lots of hanging chad in the panhandle.
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I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
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Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying.


That's what's so funny about many of you people who vote Democrat, you don't recognize the reality that most of your leaders lie in bed having wet dreams about things like completely disarming every American, well except for the few they personally approve of course. Just because they don't tell you doesn't mean it's not precisely what they want.
quash
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Gunny Hartman said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying
Yeah, they didn't come after mine, either. Didn't even try. But the NRA made hay while they could. I won't send them another dime while Wayne LaPierre is there, I belong to the TSRA instead.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Gunny Hartman
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quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying
Yeah, they didn't come after mine, either. Didn't even try. But the NRA made hay while they could. I won't send them another dime while Wayne LaPierre is there, I belong to the TSRA instead.

Don't think they wouldn't if they could.
J.R.
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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Gunny Hartman said:




I just love how he's for open borders when his own hometown of El Paso has a Wall and has seen significant decreases in crimes since it's been up.
He's not for open borders. He has made his position clear but Cruz ads continue to repeat this lie. I imagine that you would probably oppose his actual stance, it would have been nice for Cruz to just run with that.
He makes his position clear but I don't believe him.

Do you understand this? We don' believe leftists. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

This cartoon might help you understand:

I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions.


Well, when the left has no solutions that work in real life then what's there to discuss?
Again. I understand that you are an ideologue who is not interested in discussion about solutions
Just like you, then, although less full of himself.
I engage in discussions about solutions quite freely. I propose market based solutions for healthcare, global warming, free speech, foreign policy, among others. I get non-responsive replies in return.
Actually, you launch endless lectures about how much better and smarter you are then anyone, then abandon discussions once your contentions are challenged, or simply fall apart.

It's a bit like ol' Beto. The New York Times, no friend of Ted Cruz, published an interesting account of the time O'Rourke tried to steal property from poor HIspanics, so his billionaire father-in-law could make tons o' profit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/politics/beto-orourke-el-paso-texas-senate.html

Like the standard quash claim, ol' Skateboard O'Rourke does not hold up to inspection.

Just like Trump's daddy

You voting for O'Rourke?


Ha

Of course
Not sure on Beto...(prolly not. don't like Cruz, either as he has no soul or self respect) However, my fist ever cast Democratic vote will go to Mr. Allred to help flip the house to check the Trumps.
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J.R said:

Not sure on Beto...(prolly not. don't like Cruz, either as he has no soul or self respect) However, my fist ever cast Democratic vote will go to Mr. Allred to help flip the house to check the Trumps.
Know Ted personally and you have the wrong take on him. He's quite genuine, very Reaganesque in worldview, just without a Reganesque level of personal warmth. Funny thing I watched in his primary run....it was the GOP women who got behind him so strongly. He seems kinda wooden to men, but women like him. It wasn't a sex appeal thing at all. I think it was that they found him genuine. They believe him. and boy is he a good candidate. Not as warm as the FMRP, but he spreads elbow grease as well as any of them, never takes minute off from the campaign.

I think that's also true that, other than the culturally appropriated nickname, FMRP is genuine...what you see is what you get....an unabashed progressive.



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Gunny Hartman said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying.


That's what's so funny about many of you people who vote Democrat, you don't recognize the reality that most of your leaders lie in bed having wet dreams about things like completely disarming every American, well except for the few they personally approve of course. Just because they don't tell you doesn't mean it's not precisely what they want.

He grabbed a shltload of ammo though. After agencies in 2008 started buying rifle and pistol ammo by hundreds of millions of rounds, it was scarce for normal citizens to find. A weapon is no good without ammo. I remember waiting in line at Academy on Friday mornings for them to unlock the doors because the ammo deliveries were on Thursday nights. I could only buy 1 box/per caliber/per customer/per day.
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Dear Lord, please don't let my daughter grow up to be a radical far left liberal.

J.R.
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whiterock said:

J.R said:

Not sure on Beto...(prolly not. don't like Cruz, either as he has no soul or self respect) However, my fist ever cast Democratic vote will go to Mr. Allred to help flip the house to check the Trumps.
Know Ted personally and you have the wrong take on him. He's quite genuine, very Reaganesque in worldview, just without a Reganesque level of personal warmth. Funny thing I watched in his primary run....it was the GOP women who got behind him so strongly. He seems kinda wooden to men, but women like him. It wasn't a sex appeal thing at all. I think it was that they found him genuine. They believe him. and boy is he a good candidate. Not as warm as the FMRP, but he spreads elbow grease as well as any of them, never takes minute off from the campaign.

I think that's also true that, other than the culturally appropriated nickname, FMRP is genuine...what you see is what you get....an unabashed progressive.




WR, thanks for the input on ole Ted. He's just hard to like as you kinda say. One thing I struggle with him is that he shilled for Trumps after the crap Trumps said about his wife and Daddy. I know that is politics, but I just would put up with that crap.
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quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying
Yeah, they didn't come after mine, either. Didn't even try. But the NRA made hay while they could. I won't send them another dime while Wayne LaPierre is there, I belong to the TSRA instead.
'TSRA'? is that the Transgendered Sullen Repressed Atheists?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
LIB,MR BEARS
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quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying
Yeah, they didn't come after mine, either. Didn't even try. But the NRA made hay while they could. I won't send them another dime while Wayne LaPierre is there, I belong to the TSRA instead.
Nvm
Florda_mike
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quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying
Yeah, they didn't come after mine, either. Didn't even try. But the NRA made hay while they could. I won't send them another dime while Wayne LaPierre is there, I belong to the TSRA instead.


Sheesh, as if you've ever sent money to NRA???

Seriously?

That's one of your biggest lies to date
quash
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Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying
Yeah, they didn't come after mine, either. Didn't even try. But the NRA made hay while they could. I won't send them another dime while Wayne LaPierre is there, I belong to the TSRA instead.


Sheesh, as if you've ever sent money to NRA???

Seriously?

That's one of your biggest lies to date

And you know this how?
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying
Yeah, they didn't come after mine, either. Didn't even try. But the NRA made hay while they could. I won't send them another dime while Wayne LaPierre is there, I belong to the TSRA instead.


Sheesh, as if you've ever sent money to NRA???

Seriously?

That's one of your biggest lies to date

And you know this how?
It is his 'truth'
Florda_mike
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quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying
Yeah, they didn't come after mine, either. Didn't even try. But the NRA made hay while they could. I won't send them another dime while Wayne LaPierre is there, I belong to the TSRA instead.


Sheesh, as if you've ever sent money to NRA???

Seriously?

That's one of your biggest lies to date

And you know this how?


No democrats support NRA today

That's how!
TexasScientist
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Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying
Yeah, they didn't come after mine, either. Didn't even try. But the NRA made hay while they could. I won't send them another dime while Wayne LaPierre is there, I belong to the TSRA instead.


Sheesh, as if you've ever sent money to NRA???

Seriously?

That's one of your biggest lies to date

And you know this how?


No democrats support NRA today

That's how!
He's not a democrat.
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J.R. said:

whiterock said:

J.R said:

Not sure on Beto...(prolly not. don't like Cruz, either as he has no soul or self respect) However, my fist ever cast Democratic vote will go to Mr. Allred to help flip the house to check the Trumps.
Know Ted personally and you have the wrong take on him. He's quite genuine, very Reaganesque in worldview, just without a Reganesque level of personal warmth. Funny thing I watched in his primary run....it was the GOP women who got behind him so strongly. He seems kinda wooden to men, but women like him. It wasn't a sex appeal thing at all. I think it was that they found him genuine. They believe him. and boy is he a good candidate. Not as warm as the FMRP, but he spreads elbow grease as well as any of them, never takes minute off from the campaign.

I think that's also true that, other than the culturally appropriated nickname, FMRP is genuine...what you see is what you get....an unabashed progressive.




WR, thanks for the input on ole Ted. He's just hard to like as you kinda say. One thing I struggle with him is that he shilled for Trumps after the crap Trumps said about his wife and Daddy. I know that is politics, but I just would put up with that crap.
I think he had a no-win choice when his campaign came to an end. he risked losing supporters no matter what he did. The big concern about Trump from most Cruz'ers was that Trump was non-ideological and would govern from the center, cutting deals well left of center. Had Ted immediately endorsed Trump, it would have risked alienating his base. On the other hand, had he gone never Trumper, he would have limited his appeal to his base and risked marginalizing himself forever in the party. He chose the path of delayed endorsement, which was the only practical choice he had. I wasn't at the convention, but know dozens who were, and TV did not accurately capture how hostile the reaction was to his non-endorsement. He chose to suffer the hostility short-term to retain his base and mount a comeback. His fortitude and good judgment have been rewarded and he is again a key player in the conservative movement, a testament to his skill at the game.

He's not without people skills. I remember one event at a hotel where he didn't check-in beforehand....just set his bags in a corner of the room. He started that day with a 0800 (that's EST, 0700 here) speech in South Carolina at RedState, then a two connection flight to DFW, a 2hr car ride to the event. We pulled into town about an hour before the event and knowing how tired he had to be, I offered to take him to my house for a shower or quick nap. He thanked me but said "just pull into that McDonalds right there." So he walks into the restroom at a busy McDonalds, sets his contact lens case on the counter, and proceeds to wash his face and replace his contact lenses. And Me, the clean freak, is thinking "geez, I won't hardly go to the bathroom at a McDonalds....this is a pretty unpretentious guy, turning down a cot & hot at a nice home in favor of a well-used public restroom." After he finishes, he starts making fundraising calls. When we got to the event, he set his bags down in the room and starts networking. Then he does the event. Then he speaks to every person who stayed behind to talk to him. It's 10:30 before he's checking in. I pointed across the lobby to the bar at a handful of women who'd organized the event and said "that's the wicked witches of the local right wing, right there....don't let them see you or you'll get another grilling." He laughed and we parted. The next day, I find out from the ladies that he took his bag to the room and came back down and chatted with them until at 2:00am. And they loved him. That's a 19 hour day, if you're counting, and he finished it with the grassroots, the people whose husbands come home with grease under their fingernails.

He isn't particularly charming or anything. Just smart, principled, and willing to outwork everybody. Good candidates are like that.

If you like him on the issues, you'll like him as a senator. I think that applies to both of our candidates this go-around. We don't always get a clear choice like that.
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great stories and I know folks are never as the seem..... Guess I'm going Cruz....No, Beto....Sitll going Allred for my Trumps protest vote... Thanks again WR for the info...Good stuff.
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TexasScientist said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying
Yeah, they didn't come after mine, either. Didn't even try. But the NRA made hay while they could. I won't send them another dime while Wayne LaPierre is there, I belong to the TSRA instead.


Sheesh, as if you've ever sent money to NRA???

Seriously?

That's one of your biggest lies to date

And you know this how?


No democrats support NRA today

That's how!
He's not a democrat.
quash
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Florda_mike said:

TexasScientist said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Florda_mike said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?

Oh he didn't get any but don't kid yourself, it wasn't for a lack of trying
Yeah, they didn't come after mine, either. Didn't even try. But the NRA made hay while they could. I won't send them another dime while Wayne LaPierre is there, I belong to the TSRA instead.


Sheesh, as if you've ever sent money to NRA???

Seriously?

That's one of your biggest lies to date

And you know this how?


No democrats support NRA today

That's how!
He's not a democrat.

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Golem
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quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?


In other news, quash thinks threats aren't really a big deal. It's cool to threaten people if you haven't done anything yet. Threats revealing your intent don't say anything about your intent...and stuff.
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GolemIII said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?


In other news, quash thinks threats aren't really a big deal. It's cool to threaten people if you haven't done anything yet. Threats revealing your intent don't say anything about your intent...and stuff.

So black and white, no wonder you get triggered at the mere mention of a threat.

The "they're coming fer muh guns!" meltdowns were always an overeaction. Always.

I have been a consistent defender of Second Amendment rights. But a good defense means foregoing the fearmongering used by Wayne LaPierre and sticking to rational, Constitution based arguments.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

GolemIII said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?


In other news, quash thinks threats aren't really a big deal. It's cool to threaten people if you haven't done anything yet. Threats revealing your intent don't say anything about your intent...and stuff.

So black and white, no wonder you get triggered at the mere mention of a threat.

The "they're coming fer muh guns!" meltdowns were always an overeaction. Always.

I have been a consistent defender of Second Amendment rights. But a good defense means foregoing the fearmongering used by Wayne LaPierre and sticking to rational, Constitution based arguments.
So Wayne LaPierre 'triggers' you, I observe. You mention him over and over like he's the bogeyman.
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Vote Beto.
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Oldbear83
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Waco1947 said:

Vote Beto.
Only if you hate Texas.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Golem
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quash said:

GolemIII said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?


In other news, quash thinks threats aren't really a big deal. It's cool to threaten people if you haven't done anything yet. Threats revealing your intent don't say anything about your intent...and stuff.

So black and white, no wonder you get triggered at the mere mention of a threat.

The "they're coming fer muh guns!" meltdowns were always an overeaction. Always.

I have been a consistent defender of Second Amendment rights. But a good defense means foregoing the fearmongering used by Wayne LaPierre and sticking to rational, Constitution based arguments.


You are such a moron and you really should avoid using words you don't understand. Taking threats at face value is...wait for it...taking threats at face value. Your issue is that you agree with the leftists because you are one. You just don't have the integrity required to be honest about it.
quash
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GolemIII said:

quash said:

GolemIII said:

quash said:

Gunny Hartman said:

I felt moved to send the NRA some money this morning. Suck it gun-grabbing commies
How many of your guns were grabbed by Obummer?


In other news, quash thinks threats aren't really a big deal. It's cool to threaten people if you haven't done anything yet. Threats revealing your intent don't say anything about your intent...and stuff.

So black and white, no wonder you get triggered at the mere mention of a threat.

The "they're coming fer muh guns!" meltdowns were always an overeaction. Always.

I have been a consistent defender of Second Amendment rights. But a good defense means foregoing the fearmongering used by Wayne LaPierre and sticking to rational, Constitution based arguments.


You are such a moron and you really should avoid using words you don't understand. Taking threats at face value is...wait for it...taking threats at face value. Your issue is that you agree with the leftists because you are one. You just don't have the integrity required to be honest about it.

Not every threat is equal

Thr threats to take away our guns were never credible. If you want to have a meltdown over microthreats feel free. Or you could nuke the border to stop the caravan if you think every single threat is existential.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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Oldbear83 said:

Waco1947 said:

Vote Beto.
Only if you hate Texas.


Yep democrats hate our entire country

Really wish they'd all leave and try to find another country

Imagine our country without democrats and how peaceful it would be!? True utopia!
 
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