Doc Holliday said:
quash said:
Doc Holliday said:
Oldbear83 said:
quash said:
Doc Holliday said:
quash said:
Doc Holliday said:
Why the hell does anyone think just because most of the drugs are seized at the port of entry that somehow this means that only drugs are going through the ports of entry?
Common sense says of course they're being caught there because that's where law enforcement is.
The drugs that are coming from the border are going through areas where there are no barriers or enforcement.
There is enforcement, what are you talking about?
If there's enforcement everywhere then how are 2000+ crossing illegally everyday?
If there is no enforcement why are so many caught?
OK, I see we have to go to basics:
Where there are barriers and enforcement, illegals get caught
Where there are no barriers or law enforcement, illegals are not caught and enter the country.
Building walls costs a lot less than man-hours, and historically is very effective.
Next lesson: addition and subtraction
He won't even acknowledge that illegal immigrants cost more than they give back.
Of course not: it's not true.
An estimated half of the nation's undocumented immigrants are believed to be working under fake Social Security numbers, which means they are paying taxes and into Social Security.
That means at least half are not paying their fair share of taxes. Legally they shouldn't even be here to begin with.
The reason illegal immigrants are unambiguously a net fiscal drain is that less-educated people, native-born or immigrant, earn on average modest wages and as a result they tend to make modest tax contributions, while needing significant social services.
Actual net lifetime fiscal cost of illegal immigrants is likely $125,000 to $135,000 per illegal alien.
Nope. Your assuming cradle to grave social costs
First, many migrants are working age. We never had the biggest outlay: public education.
Second, they pay sales and property taxes for, wait for it, public education, among other things.
Third, they'll never collect a dime of those social security benefits. But we will. They are keeping SS afloat for a few extra years.
Four, the cyclical flow of labor means that many return home to start families, etc. before they reach the age when they become a drain on healthcare.
The wall, however, interrupts that flow.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat