Sam Lowry said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Axios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

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What action do you recommend?

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I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

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Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

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If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

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The Kurds are basically Antifa with guns...and you want to give them nukes.

If you're trying to make Trump look like a genius, well done.

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If you're trying to make Florduh look like a genius, good try. That's an impossible task.

The Kurds are not some monolith, so quit pretending that they are.11,000 Kurds died doing our fighting against Isis. We lost four. Not 4000. Four.

And Trump abandoned those Kurds as soon as he thought it was expeditious for him politically.

Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Axios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

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What action do you recommend?

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I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

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Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

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That's the hollow threat the Administration has chosen to go with. Trump threatened to "destroy Turkey's economy" with sanctions if they violated some vague and undefined terms of his "agreement" with Erdogan, and Mnuchin was on the Sunday shows this morning echoing that threat (but when asked what they are waiting for he got mealy mouthed and dodged the question). To be clear this is probably just meaningless bluster from Trump, because he saw how negative the response to this move was, and he wants to mitigate the impact of that with the people who are gullible enough to believe anything he says.

If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

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Are you recommending that we set up an independent Kurdistan and arm them with nukes?

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Nobody wants a proliferation of nukes. Please stop.

I would say we need to re-enter with military forces. Assuming there was some sort of agreement between Trump and Erdogan, we should enforce it through sanctions AND placement of soldiers.

Turkey doesn't want to kill our people. Should they do so, they would invite the condemnation and actions of what allies we have left.

But the BARE MINIMUM we should do is stop blocking the UN resolution condemning Turkey which only we and Russia are doing.

Sam Lowry said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Axios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

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What action do you recommend?

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I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

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Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

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If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

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The Kurds are basically Antifa with guns...and you want to give them nukes.

If you're trying to make Trump look like a genius, well done.

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This is so incredibly inaccurate it's hard not to call this a lie.

Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Axios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

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What action do you recommend?

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I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

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Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

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That's the hollow threat the Administration has chosen to go with. Trump threatened to "destroy Turkey's economy" with sanctions if they violated some vague and undefined terms of his "agreement" with Erdogan, and Mnuchin was on the Sunday shows this morning echoing that threat (but when asked what they are waiting for he got mealy mouthed and dodged the question). To be clear this is probably just meaningless bluster from Trump, because he saw how negative the response to this move was, and he wants to mitigate the impact of that with the people who are gullible enough to believe anything he says.

If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

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Are you recommending that we set up an independent Kurdistan and arm them with nukes?

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Yes is my vote (except for the nukes part). The UK screwed this up years ago.

fubar said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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RAxios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

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What action do you recommend?

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I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

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Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

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If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

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The Kurds are basically Antifa with guns...and you want to give them nukes.

If you're trying to make Trump look like a genius, well done.

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If you're trying to make Florduh look like a genius, good try. That's an impossible task.

The Kurds are not some monolith, so quit pretending that they are.11,000 Kurds died doing our fighting against Isis. We lost four. Not 4000. Four.

And Trump abandoned those Kurds as soon as he thought it was expeditious for him politically.

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Still trying to understand how he sees this as politically expedient?

You leftists would be the first to scream about American casualties in a fight with Turkey......and you know it.

The Kurds are not worth the lives of our people......and since none of you leftists are ready to put YOUR respective asses on the line .

Just keep on typing your 'outrage '.

Meanwhile let's get the hell out of these eternal Muslim blood feuds .

18 years in Afghanistan is far too long .

Get out .

Turkey would not fight us or attack us as they already have if we had any kind of pro US person in the WH not green lighting it all for them.

GrowlTowel said:

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Trump ran on ending the endless wars. No surprise that he is trying to bring our boys home.

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What is the net deployment since 45?

GrowlTowel said:

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Trump ran on ending the endless wars. No surprise that he is trying to bring our boys home.

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He's not bringing our men and women home. He's sending them to Saudi Arabia.

Florda_mike said:

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Cinque and Quash chime in simultaneously

Isn't that a curiously tender moment in time

Poor little things

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Can't believe how little content you get paid for. Nice gig

quash said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Cinque and Quash chime in simultaneously

Isn't that a curiously tender moment in time

Poor little things

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Can't believe how little content you get paid for. Nice gig

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They get what they pay for.

Florda_mike said:

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quash said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Cinque and Quash chime in simultaneously

Isn't that a curiously tender moment in time

Poor little things

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Can't believe how little content you get paid for. Nice gig

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So you work harder for your Soros money?

Yeah Trump pays well

Maybe you should switch sides?

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Don't like rubles.

BrooksBearLives said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Trump ran on ending the endless wars. No surprise that he is trying to bring our boys home.

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He ran on ending ISIS, too.

Jesus.

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Which he did.

God.

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No Jesus this time? No capitals? No yelling?

I win.

Sam Lowry said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Axios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

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What action do you recommend?

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I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

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Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

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If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

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The Kurds are basically Antifa with guns...

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This is just pathetic. Shame on you. Because I know you are capable of so much more than this, it is sad to see you lower yourself to the level of posters who write things like this because they just don't know any better. Apparently, some conservatives have their own version of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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HuMcK said:

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Osodecentx said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Axios is reporting 950 ISIS fighters escape yesterday thanks for Turkish bombing of a Kurd city in Syria.

Where is YOUR line?

https://www.axios.com/isis-detainees-northern-syria-turkey-kurdish-ec58db13-93c0-4c9c-8158-6d4b8dbb6e9c.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

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Sounds like a lot of bad stuff is happening.

What action do you recommend?

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This isn't that complicated, all we had to do was stay put and not fck the Kurds. Notheast syria was in relative peace because the Kurds did the heavy lifting of defeating ISIS, that peace is now broken because we deliberately got out of the way and let it happen.

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What action do you recommend?

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I already told you what we should have done in the comment you quoted. The orange messiah is the one who screwed that up by rolling over so easily for Erdogan, and now things are happening that can't be undone. We could (we won't) sanction the sht out of Turkey like the administration has been threatening to do, but I get the sense that's just rhetorical cover without any intention of follow-through, because they know screwing the Kurds was a bad look to the voting public. But hey, Putin and Erdogan are pretty happy about this, and that's probably good enough for Trump.

---

Not seeing any non-rhetorical action for this next week. Sanctions against Turkey?

---

That's the hollow threat the Administration has chosen to go with. Trump threatened to "destroy Turkey's economy" with sanctions if they violated some vague and undefined terms of his "agreement" with Erdogan, and Mnuchin was on the Sunday shows this morning echoing that threat (but when asked what they are waiting for he got mealy mouthed and dodged the question). To be clear this is probably just meaningless bluster from Trump, because he saw how negative the response to this move was, and he wants to mitigate the impact of that with the people who are gullible enough to believe anything he says.

If we really wanted to play hardball, we would move to set up an independent Kurdistan, and then transfer our nukes to that new nation from Turkey.

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Are you recommending that we set up an independent Kurdistan and arm them with nukes?

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Nobody wants a proliferation of nukes. Please stop.

I would say we need to re-enter with military forces. Assuming there was some sort of agreement between Trump and Erdogan, we should enforce it through sanctions AND placement of soldiers.

Turkey doesn't want to kill our people. Should they do so, they would invite the condemnation and actions of what allies we have left.

But the BARE MINIMUM we should do is stop blocking the UN resolution condemning Turkey which only we and Russia are doing.

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That was Huck's idea. You tell him to stop

your idea (at least you put forth one)
1. military intervention
2. Increase sanctions against Turkey
3. don't block UN resolution

Is this your plan?

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1. Quit saying it's "military intervention" as if we weren't just in it.

There has to be at least a threat of it. Our president is a diplomatic ****up. First he gutted the state department, then he installed his cronies in there with no experience to push out the good diplomats that WERE there.

So a diplomatic solution won't be as effective as it should be.

But this idea that "oh well, nothing can be fixed" because me, a guy who isn't steeped in this can't fix it, is ****ING RIDICULOUS.

The rule is "you break it, you buy it." For most people it is an admonition against handling stuff you should just be looking at. For most countries it is an admonition against foreign intervention.

For the US it has been a tenet for greater involvement. We go handle stuff we shouldn't, break a country or region and then buy in to long term "security" or "nation building". Kids will serve in Afghanistan who weren't born when we started this thing.

We shouldn't have been shipping shoulder fired rockets from Libya to Syria; we shouldn't have sent troops to Syria, we shouldn't have pulled them on the spur of the moment. But Trump could never had made this blunder if Obama and Sec. Clinton hadn't gotten us into this by breaking what they shouldn't have been handling.

The lesson should be stay out of fights that aren't ours. But with bases all over the planet and troops in every single time zone, it is easy to make a fight over US interests when it is not actually in our direct national interest to do so.

GTFO. And then stay out.