Liz Cheney: The GOP is at a turning point. History is watching us

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Waco1947
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I wasn't clear. Liz Cheney stands contrast the silliness of the gop.
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whiterock
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Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

Cheney and her ilk are wrong on a lot of things, but they're 100% right on this. This is completely unacceptable for anyone who claims to love the Constitution and the rule of law.


Adopting the rhetoric of your opponent doesn't impress anyone. It just emboldens your opponent and undermines your credibility among your natural allies.



The rhetoric of constitutionalism was not always unique to the left. It's the abandonment of our own principles that undermines our credibility.

A former president should not be undermining an election six months after the fact, especially not without evidence. It is obscene.


Agreed. The Obama/Clinton effort to undermine the validity of the 2016 was indeed despicable.
HuMcK
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It was so childish and immature how Hillary refused to call and concede, and how Obama skipped the handoff and inauguration all together. Oh no wait, that was all Trump...
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whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

Cheney and her ilk are wrong on a lot of things, but they're 100% right on this. This is completely unacceptable for anyone who claims to love the Constitution and the rule of law.


Adopting the rhetoric of your opponent doesn't impress anyone. It just emboldens your opponent and undermines your credibility among your natural allies.



The rhetoric of constitutionalism was not always unique to the left. It's the abandonment of our own principles that undermines our credibility.

A former president should not be undermining an election six months after the fact, especially not without evidence. It is obscene.


Agreed. The Obama/Clinton effort to undermine the validity of the 2016 was indeed despicable.
I agree. I remember when that statement actually meant something too. From a Republican, today, it's worth a puddle of piss.
Whiskey Pete
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HuMcK said:

It was so childish and immature how Hillary refused to call and concede, and how Obama skipped the handoff and inauguration all together. Oh no wait, that was all Trump...
You forget about the part about them pushing the russian collusion hoax that you have so brilliantly bought into. Hook, line and sinker
HuMcK
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The best hoaxes are the ones supported by facts and evidence I guess...
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HuMcK said:

The best hoaxes are the ones supported by facts and evidence I guess...


Tell me just 3 good things Biden has done so far?
Oldbear83
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Florda_mike said:

HuMcK said:

The best hoaxes are the ones supported by facts and evidence I guess...


Tell me just 3 good things Biden has done so far?
1. Joe goes to bed early every night

2. Joe knows his betters, is always therefore respectful to Putin, Jinping, and Pelosi

3. Joe can name almost 80% of his cabinet members
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HuMcK
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Here's items 1 and 2, reparing Atlantic Alliances and building a coalition to counter China.
Oldbear83
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That's some weak kool-aid.
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HuMcK
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Well the last guy set the bar down in "worst POTUS ever" territory, so even the stuff we used to take for granted is an improvement.
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HuMcK said:

Well the last guy set the bar down in "worst POTUS ever" territory, so even the stuff we used to take for granted is an improvement.
No one familiar with the Buchanan, Harding, LBJ or Andrew Johnson administrations would claim that Trump was "worst ever" in any important category.
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Oldbear83 said:

HuMcK said:

Well the last guy set the bar down in "worst POTUS ever" territory, so even the stuff we used to take for granted is an improvement.
No one familiar with the Buchanan, Harding, LBJ or Andrew Johnson administrations would claim that Trump was "worst ever" in any important category.
I think he said Trump was down in the worst ever territory. It's not exclusive.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
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TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

HuMcK said:

Well the last guy set the bar down in "worst POTUS ever" territory, so even the stuff we used to take for granted is an improvement.
No one familiar with the Buchanan, Harding, LBJ or Andrew Johnson administrations would claim that Trump was "worst ever" in any important category.
I think he said Trump was down in the worst ever territory. It's not exclusive.
He is still wrong.
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Whiskey Pete
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HuMcK said:

The best hoaxes are the ones supported by facts and evidence I guess...
Yep, and a 3 year investigation found dick. Just enough dick for you
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Florda_mike said:

HuMcK said:

The best hoaxes are the ones supported by facts and evidence I guess...


Tell me just 3 good things Biden has done so far?
According to my half black niece who, according to some of our resident idiots, is too oppressed to accomplish anything, who is in college (not Baylor) and enrolled in their engineering program, said to me on Saturday when she was over out our house (she didn't get pulled over for driving while black, so she was on time for lunch), said the one good thing she can say about Biden (she's a conservative and Trump supporter), is that because he made Juneteenth a holiday, she didn't have class on Friday and that saved her bacon for the physics test she was going to fail... not fail it because she's black, but because she wasn't prepared.

She did text us when she did get home from our house... she actually did get pulled over for running a stop sign after she left. Since the sign just got installed less than 2 weeks ago, the white cop just gave her a warning and told her that she had a low tire.

I'm sending her a text now to find out if she passed the test today.

So, according to her.... that's the one good thing Biden did.
Waco1947
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Rawhide said:

Florda_mike said:

HuMcK said:

The best hoaxes are the ones supported by facts and evidence I guess...


Tell me just 3 good things Biden has done so far?
According to my half black niece who, according to some of our resident idiots, is too oppressed to accomplish anything, who is in college (not Baylor) and enrolled in their engineering program, said to me on Saturday when she was over out our house (she didn't get pulled over for driving while black, so she was on time for lunch), said the one good thing she can say about Biden (she's a conservative and Trump supporter), is that because he made Juneteenth a holiday, she didn't have class on Friday and that saved her bacon for the physics test she was going to fail... not fail it because she's black, but because she wasn't prepared.

She did text us when she did get home from our house... she actually did get pulled over for running a stop sign after she left. Since the sign just got installed less than 2 weeks ago, the white cop just gave her a warning and told her that she had a low tire.

I'm sending her a text now to find out if she passed the test today.

So, according to her.... that's the one good thing Biden did.
A lone example is not an argument for a larger sample.
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Whiskey Pete
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Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

Florda_mike said:

HuMcK said:

The best hoaxes are the ones supported by facts and evidence I guess...


Tell me just 3 good things Biden has done so far?
According to my half black niece who, according to some of our resident idiots, is too oppressed to accomplish anything, who is in college (not Baylor) and enrolled in their engineering program, said to me on Saturday when she was over out our house (she didn't get pulled over for driving while black, so she was on time for lunch), said the one good thing she can say about Biden (she's a conservative and Trump supporter), is that because he made Juneteenth a holiday, she didn't have class on Friday and that saved her bacon for the physics test she was going to fail... not fail it because she's black, but because she wasn't prepared.

She did text us when she did get home from our house... she actually did get pulled over for running a stop sign after she left. Since the sign just got installed less than 2 weeks ago, the white cop just gave her a warning and told her that she had a low tire.

I'm sending her a text now to find out if she passed the test today.

So, according to her.... that's the one good thing Biden did.
A lone example is not an argument for a larger sample.
A lone example of what? A non-oppressed successful black person?

Look around Moe, there are successful black people all over the country.

You must have a real sense of superiority due to your skin color to believe that black people can't get ahead without whitey's help.
Waco1947
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Straw man. Not what I said
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whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

Cheney and her ilk are wrong on a lot of things, but they're 100% right on this. This is completely unacceptable for anyone who claims to love the Constitution and the rule of law.


Adopting the rhetoric of your opponent doesn't impress anyone. It just emboldens your opponent and undermines your credibility among your natural allies.



The rhetoric of constitutionalism was not always unique to the left. It's the abandonment of our own principles that undermines our credibility.

A former president should not be undermining an election six months after the fact, especially not without evidence. It is obscene.


Agreed. The Obama/Clinton effort to undermine the validity of the 2016 was indeed despicable.
There's been some new developments in that arena.



What the hell is John Durham doing?
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Doc Holliday said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

Cheney and her ilk are wrong on a lot of things, but they're 100% right on this. This is completely unacceptable for anyone who claims to love the Constitution and the rule of law.


Adopting the rhetoric of your opponent doesn't impress anyone. It just emboldens your opponent and undermines your credibility among your natural allies.



The rhetoric of constitutionalism was not always unique to the left. It's the abandonment of our own principles that undermines our credibility.

A former president should not be undermining an election six months after the fact, especially not without evidence. It is obscene.


Agreed. The Obama/Clinton effort to undermine the validity of the 2016 was indeed despicable.
There's been some new developments in that arena.



What the hell is John Durham doing?
Writing a book?
whiterock
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HuMcK said:

Well the last guy set the bar down in "worst POTUS ever" territory, so even the stuff we used to take for granted is an improvement.

whiterock
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BearFan33 said:

Doc Holliday said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

Cheney and her ilk are wrong on a lot of things, but they're 100% right on this. This is completely unacceptable for anyone who claims to love the Constitution and the rule of law.


Adopting the rhetoric of your opponent doesn't impress anyone. It just emboldens your opponent and undermines your credibility among your natural allies.



The rhetoric of constitutionalism was not always unique to the left. It's the abandonment of our own principles that undermines our credibility.

A former president should not be undermining an election six months after the fact, especially not without evidence. It is obscene.


Agreed. The Obama/Clinton effort to undermine the validity of the 2016 was indeed despicable.
There's been some new developments in that arena.



What the hell is John Durham doing?
Writing a book?
The Russia Hoax makes Watergate look like a t-ball game. I knew that Dossier wasn't intelligence the first time it was reported. So did the FBI.
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whiterock said:

BearFan33 said:

Doc Holliday said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

Cheney and her ilk are wrong on a lot of things, but they're 100% right on this. This is completely unacceptable for anyone who claims to love the Constitution and the rule of law.


Adopting the rhetoric of your opponent doesn't impress anyone. It just emboldens your opponent and undermines your credibility among your natural allies.



The rhetoric of constitutionalism was not always unique to the left. It's the abandonment of our own principles that undermines our credibility.

A former president should not be undermining an election six months after the fact, especially not without evidence. It is obscene.


Agreed. The Obama/Clinton effort to undermine the validity of the 2016 was indeed despicable.
There's been some new developments in that arena.



What the hell is John Durham doing?
Writing a book?
The Russia Hoax makes Watergate look like a t-ball game. I knew that Dossier wasn't intelligence the first time it was reported. So did the FBI.
So did congress and the senate.

They're going to get away with it aren't they?
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Doc Holliday said:

whiterock said:

BearFan33 said:

Doc Holliday said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

Sam Lowry said:

Cheney and her ilk are wrong on a lot of things, but they're 100% right on this. This is completely unacceptable for anyone who claims to love the Constitution and the rule of law.


Adopting the rhetoric of your opponent doesn't impress anyone. It just emboldens your opponent and undermines your credibility among your natural allies.



The rhetoric of constitutionalism was not always unique to the left. It's the abandonment of our own principles that undermines our credibility.

A former president should not be undermining an election six months after the fact, especially not without evidence. It is obscene.


Agreed. The Obama/Clinton effort to undermine the validity of the 2016 was indeed despicable.
There's been some new developments in that arena.



What the hell is John Durham doing?
Writing a book?
The Russia Hoax makes Watergate look like a t-ball game. I knew that Dossier wasn't intelligence the first time it was reported. So did the FBI.
So did congress and the senate.

They're going to get away with it aren't they?


Of course because they're all in on it, well 90% of em

Plus they all have something on each other or they wouldn't even be there. Most all are in on election fraud because they were compromised before ever elected. That's what qualifies them to be there, judges included

So, are they going to get away with it? They're judge, jury and executioner! Of course they'll get away with it, criminals all of em in a separate sovereign area from United States that has whatever laws they want, called a District .... of .... Columbia or whatever they want to call the Sin City
Oldbear83
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be right back, gonna buy some Reynolds Wrap stock ...
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J.R.
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Rawhide said:

HuMcK said:

The best hoaxes are the ones supported by facts and evidence I guess...
Yep, and a 3 year investigation found dick. Just enough dick for you
You seem to have a real fascination with the word "dick". How old are you?
Whiskey Pete
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J.R. said:

Rawhide said:

HuMcK said:

The best hoaxes are the ones supported by facts and evidence I guess...
Yep, and a 3 year investigation found dick. Just enough dick for you
You seem to have a real fascination with the word "dick". How old are you?
You seem to have a real fascination with acting like one. It's odd that you seem to gravitate to any post that has the word dick.... is this your way of coming out of the closet? Don't fret, you'll be a hero among transgenders.
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HuMcK
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Oldbear83 said:

HuMcK said:

Well the last guy set the bar down in "worst POTUS ever" territory, so even the stuff we used to take for granted is an improvement.
No one familiar with the Buchanan, Harding, LBJ or Andrew Johnson administrations would claim that Trump was "worst ever" in any important category.

Oh well would you look at that, a survey of historians puts your guy in the bottom 4. Who could have predicted...
https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall
Whiskey Pete
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HuMcK said:

Oldbear83 said:

HuMcK said:

Well the last guy set the bar down in "worst POTUS ever" territory, so even the stuff we used to take for granted is an improvement.
No one familiar with the Buchanan, Harding, LBJ or Andrew Johnson administrations would claim that Trump was "worst ever" in any important category.

Oh well would you look at that, a survey of historians puts your guy in the bottom 4. Who could have predicted...
https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall
Well, lookey here... Mueller finds no proof of Russian collusion by Trump:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-report-conclusions-trump-congress-attorney-general-william-barr-n986611
Oldbear83
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HuMcK said:

Oldbear83 said:

HuMcK said:

Well the last guy set the bar down in "worst POTUS ever" territory, so even the stuff we used to take for granted is an improvement.
No one familiar with the Buchanan, Harding, LBJ or Andrew Johnson administrations would claim that Trump was "worst ever" in any important category.

Oh well would you look at that, a survey of historians puts your guy in the bottom 4. Who could have predicted...
https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall
Given the bias among modern "historians", no shock at all.

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