4th and Inches said:

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nein51 said:

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AI will be the end of humanity. There's no doubt about it.

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we are headed to somewhere between Hal and Skynet

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I think Armageddon is more likely. Someone is going to create the wrong deep fake and start a war. It's only a matter of time

nein51 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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nein51 said:

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AI will be the end of humanity. There's no doubt about it.

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we are headed to somewhere between Hal and Skynet

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I think Armageddon is more likely. Someone is going to create the wrong deep fake and start a war. It's only a matter of time

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The modern version of the WOPR from War Games, right? The theoretical negatives of AGI are concerning. But advanced AGI is difficult. The ironic reason is algorithmic solutioning relies on a basis of order, whereas while human behavior prefers order, we have the capacity and adaptation for chaotic reasoning.

I see AI in a different context.

AI companies spend a great deal of effort selling the independence and creativity of AI, when in fact the truth is far more pedestrian.

In what I have read and studied about AI, what has been accomplished is a mix of tremendous data storage and conditional behavior according to presented conditions. A grand and deep version of the If-Then-Else program.

The program with AI, is that a machine or system can be programmed to say or do anything, with the machine assigned the responsibility rather than its programmers.

Oldbear83 said:

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I see AI in a different context.

AI companies spend a great deal of effort selling the independence and creativity of AI, when in fact the truth is far more pedestrian.

In what I have read and studied about AI, what has been accomplished is a mix of tremendous data storage and conditional behavior according to presented conditions. A grand and deep version of the If-Then-Else program.

The program with AI, is that a machine or system can be programmed to say or do anything, with the machine assigned the responsibility rather than its programmers.

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You correctly describe current AI. The concern is the potential development of AGI.

ATL Bear said:

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nein51 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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nein51 said:

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AI will be the end of humanity. There's no doubt about it.

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we are headed to somewhere between Hal and Skynet

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I think Armageddon is more likely. Someone is going to create the wrong deep fake and start a war. It's only a matter of time

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The modern version of the WOPR from War Games, right? The theoretical negatives of AGI are concerning. But advanced AGI is difficult. The ironic reason is algorithmic solutioning relies on a basis of order, whereas while human behavior prefers order, we have the capacity and adaptation for chaotic reasoning.

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The larger problem is one of basic database…garbage in, garbage out. So the AI can "learn" but it can only learn what it's taught. It can't actually think it can only regurgitate.

This is wildly problematic as humans are flawed and the temptation to feed bad information will always be there just to see the outcome.

Nevermind the further devolution to tribalism whereby the AI is taught to block some information while forwarding other. Think every news outlet at 5pm with the exact same cold open using the exact same words (like CNN and MSNBC do now only every outlet is the same).

If you don't think governments will control AI to their benefit then you're crazy.

What happens when an extremist group fakes a large scale attack using AI with the goal of forcing quick retaliation? What happens when humans can no longer decipher real from deep fake (just saw an AOC video on FB that is hilarious and obviously fake but the person who posted it didn't know it was fake)?

To me, there is no end for AI that is a net positive.

Do they care more about Ukraine's schools and borders than America's? Asking for a friend.
I guess you can't indoctrinate kids if they are not in the classroom so maybe that explains it.

The average American eighth grader is reading at a third grade level and driving over two structurally deficient bridges to get to school. https://t.co/O4NafmrDGP

— a newsman (@a_newsman) November 20, 2023

nein51 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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nein51 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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nein51 said:

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AI will be the end of humanity. There's no doubt about it.

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we are headed to somewhere between Hal and Skynet

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I think Armageddon is more likely. Someone is going to create the wrong deep fake and start a war. It's only a matter of time

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The modern version of the WOPR from War Games, right? The theoretical negatives of AGI are concerning. But advanced AGI is difficult. The ironic reason is algorithmic solutioning relies on a basis of order, whereas while human behavior prefers order, we have the capacity and adaptation for chaotic reasoning.

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The larger problem is one of basic database…garbage in, garbage out. So the AI can "learn" but it can only learn what it's taught. It can't actually think it can only regurgitate.

This is wildly problematic as humans are flawed and the temptation to feed bad information will always be there just to see the outcome.

Nevermind the further devolution to tribalism whereby the AI is taught to block some information while forwarding other. Think every news outlet at 5pm with the exact same cold open using the exact same words (like CNN and MSNBC do now only every outlet is the same).

If you don't think governments will control AI to their benefit then you're crazy.

What happens when an extremist group fakes a large scale attack using AI with the goal of forcing quick retaliation? What happens when humans can no longer decipher real from deep fake (just saw an AOC video on FB that is hilarious and obviously fake but the person who posted it didn't know it was fake)?

To me, there is no end for AI that is a net positive.

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Those are human flaw exploitation exercises. The good news is that AI can actually be used to defeat AI in those scenarios. Compartmentalized AI is more predictable and simple to counter. Can and has it be abused? Absolutely. Can we understand and address it? Absolutely also. A simple example is they quickly figured out using AI a way to determine if a student is using AI to write essays or papers. They'll apply the same to deep fake content, hacking attempts, etc. AI vs AI if you will.

AGI, and really its theoretical next evolution ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence), is where as the parlance goes "the **** gets real". If AGI becomes reality, which theoretically is supposed to match/mimic human intelligence, that's the point where AI becomes potentially unpredictable and uncontrollable. And I can't fathom the impact of ASI, which would theoretically exceed human intelligence. A technology that can align and create its own data and decision trees and program itself and its adjacent systems for its independent response has both incredible positive practical applications and hyper negative potential. Especially knowing, as you reference, the human potential/desire to abuse it.

ATL Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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I see AI in a different context.

AI companies spend a great deal of effort selling the independence and creativity of AI, when in fact the truth is far more pedestrian.

In what I have read and studied about AI, what has been accomplished is a mix of tremendous data storage and conditional behavior according to presented conditions. A grand and deep version of the If-Then-Else program.

The program with AI, is that a machine or system can be programmed to say or do anything, with the machine assigned the responsibility rather than its programmers.

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You correctly describe current AI. The concern is the potential development of AGI.

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I focus on what can be true now. Having studied Enron and Worldcom and other adventures of human dishonesty, I have no doubt there are people who would use AI for sinister purposes.

In fact, given AI's applications already in use in stock and security trading, in freight logistics and research, I fully expect there are entities using AI to advance their own opportunity and advantage, without much thought to cost or possible consequences.

Of course they did...

Pro-Palestinian mob tries to shut down the Macy’s Thanksgiving parade in NYC. They even glued themselves to the pavement.pic.twitter.com/Fnq3xcla1n

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 23, 2023

Time for the Left to **** on another American holiday..without fail.

Jack Bauer said:

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Time for the Left to **** on another American holiday..without fail.

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she aint no Trent Crimm..

Jack Bauer said:

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Time for the Left to **** on another American holiday..without fail.

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It's as if the history of the world began when Europeans started having success. Nevermind the primitive social orders and brutality they defeated, and the millenia of extreme oppression that went along with it.

ATL Bear said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Time for the Left to **** on another American holiday..without fail.

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It's as if the history of the world began when Europeans started having success. Nevermind the primitive social orders and brutality they defeated, and the millenia of extreme oppression that went along with it.

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Native Americans all got along and were high all college educated before the white man came...

The media is wary because the victim is not a criminal high on fentanyl

Angry demonstrations in Dublin against mass immigration after children were stabbed by a migrant.pic.twitter.com/t2ZIJ80NOD

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 23, 2023

Innocent children ruthlessly stabbed by a mentally deranged non-national in Dublin, Ireland today. Our chief of police had this to say on the riots in the aftermath. Drew, not good enough. There is grave danger among us in Ireland that should never be here in the first place, and… https://t.co/ac6j1GIjXD

— Conor McGregor (@TheNotoriousMMA) November 23, 2023

Lots of nationalistic sentiment on X right now. You could easily see that devolving badly.

Jack Bauer said:

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Time for the Left to **** on another American holiday..without fail.

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Indigenous people are a myth like everything the fascists tell you.

We’re lucky turkeys would never do this to us—you don’t have to do it to them, either.

Art by @freebison pic.twitter.com/StSJlbxgte

— PETA (@peta) November 22, 2023

Pierre Poilievre could teach a masterclass on schooling bad journalists.

In this instance, a journalist asked him if he was irresponsible in calling yesterday's Rainbow Bridge incident a terrorist attack. He points out that he was citing Canadian news outlets who quoted the… pic.twitter.com/e9JWr6y2zp

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) November 23, 2023

Jack Bauer said:

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The media is wary because the victim is not a criminal high on fentanyl

Angry demonstrations in Dublin against mass immigration after children were stabbed by a migrant.pic.twitter.com/t2ZIJ80NOD

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 23, 2023

Innocent children ruthlessly stabbed by a mentally deranged non-national in Dublin, Ireland today. Our chief of police had this to say on the riots in the aftermath. Drew, not good enough. There is grave danger among us in Ireland that should never be here in the first place, and… https://t.co/ac6j1GIjXD

— Conor McGregor (@TheNotoriousMMA) November 23, 2023

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If someone can cogently explain why liberalism inexorably leads to hatred of white people, I will stop being RW and join the post liberals. https://t.co/2PXvnCWIYF

— Michael Sebastian (@HonorAndDaring) November 24, 2023

4 overweight female cops try to arrest a male shoplifter for over 2 minutes.

He ends up escaping.

Diversity quotas are our strength!

pic.twitter.com/RY12jsO3rs

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 24, 2023

Jeff Bezos has spent $42 million building a clock that will outlast human civilization in a mountain in Texas pic.twitter.com/aU9xyugwUD

— Historic Vids (@historyinmemes) November 27, 2023

ATL Bear said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Time for the Left to **** on another American holiday..without fail.

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It's as if the history of the world began when Europeans started having success. Nevermind the primitive social orders and brutality they defeated, and the millenia of extreme oppression that went along with it.

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I just don't get the lack of understanding history that goes into this anti white hate. They ignore that every people on earth migrated to their current location from somewhere else. NO single group, tribe, ethnicity, etc. just appeared on their land and stayed their uninterrupted. The Native Americans were not peaceful. If it wasn't Europeans that found the American Continents it would have been someone else (Chinese Probably) and the end result would have been the same.

Cobretti said:

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4 overweight female cops try to arrest a male shoplifter for over 2 minutes.

He ends up escaping.

Diversity quotas are our strength!

pic.twitter.com/RY12jsO3rs

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 24, 2023

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That is just embarrassing.

cowboycwr said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Time for the Left to **** on another American holiday..without fail.

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It's as if the history of the world began when Europeans started having success. Nevermind the primitive social orders and brutality they defeated, and the millenia of extreme oppression that went along with it.

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I just don't get the lack of understanding history that goes into this anti white hate. They ignore that every people on earth migrated to their current location from somewhere else. NO single group, tribe, ethnicity, etc. just appeared on their land and stayed their uninterrupted. The Native Americans were not peaceful. If it wasn't Europeans that found the American Continents it would have been someone else (Chinese Probably) and the end result would have been the same.

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Because propaganda and disinformation is the rule of the day.

I think I was given a lobotomy in 2019 and nobody told me.

Either that, or most of the rest of the planet was.

It's the only way any of this makes ANY DAMN SENSE. https://t.co/F99sgxJwGn

— Daddy Warpig (@DaddyWarpig) November 27, 2023

Redbrickbear said:

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Jeff Bezos has spent $42 million building a clock that will outlast human civilization in a mountain in Texas pic.twitter.com/aU9xyugwUD

— Historic Vids (@historyinmemes) November 27, 2023

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so exactly what is size of the human civilization in a mountain in west Texas.

So Christians just need to kidnap and kill civilians to get more followers?

Woke influencers are now encouraging their TikTok followers to read the Quran.
pic.twitter.com/XOFAuTXfey

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 28, 2023

The cost of living is going through the roof. Just to get groceries is almost a second mortgage.

🔊... "am I the only one struggling? I have to pick and choose which bills to fall behind on. so that I have groceries in my house. I feel like everyone is silently struggling and… pic.twitter.com/oZK1D2pP5j

— Wall Street Silver (@WallStreetSilv) November 28, 2023

NOW – Thousands of Auto Dealers Are Urging Biden to Slow the EV Mandate: 'Consumers Don't Want Them'

"This is thousands of dealerships that represent multiple brands. Not just one brand, domestic, international brands, and all across the board...We're now backed up to 12 months… pic.twitter.com/0zJpU7CIjw

— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) November 29, 2023

Redbrickbear said:

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The cost of living is going through the roof. Just to get groceries is almost a second mortgage.

🔊... "am I the only one struggling? I have to pick and choose which bills to fall behind on. so that I have groceries in my house. I feel like everyone is silently struggling and… pic.twitter.com/oZK1D2pP5j

— Wall Street Silver (@WallStreetSilv) November 28, 2023

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#BIDENOMICS

Black on black crime, a Democrat run city forever, migrants sent to a sanctuary city and it's all THE MAGA fault!

Mayor Brandon Johnson blames the city migrant crisis on the far-right, January 6th, and not accepting the Civil War outcome. pic.twitter.com/eimODTqiDG

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 28, 2023

Jack Bauer said:

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Black on black crime, a Democrat run city forever, migrants sent to a sanctuary city and it's all THE MAGA fault!

Mayor Brandon Johnson blames the city migrant crisis on the far-right, January 6th, and not accepting the Civil War outcome. pic.twitter.com/eimODTqiDG

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 28, 2023

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Lori Lightfoot was the Dave Roberts of mayors. Chicago voters replaced her with the Kevin Steele of mayors.

Cobretti said:

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NOW – Thousands of Auto Dealers Are Urging Biden to Slow the EV Mandate: 'Consumers Don't Want Them'

"This is thousands of dealerships that represent multiple brands. Not just one brand, domestic, international brands, and all across the board...We're now backed up to 12 months… pic.twitter.com/0zJpU7CIjw

— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) November 29, 2023

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I've been saying this for a year. They don't sell. I'm in car dealerships and auto/truck repair shops 4 days a week 55 hours or so. It's real obvious what sells and what doesn't.

whitetrash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Black on black crime, a Democrat run city forever, migrants sent to a sanctuary city and it's all THE MAGA fault!

Mayor Brandon Johnson blames the city migrant crisis on the far-right, January 6th, and not accepting the Civil War outcome. pic.twitter.com/eimODTqiDG

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 28, 2023

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Lori Lightfoot was the Dave Roberts of mayors. Chicago voters replaced her with the Kevin Steele of mayors.

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Too soon.