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In reply to Osodecentx • 3:42p, 10/15/22
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4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
The quote about misinformation wasn't in the NYT article
but is was in their tweet


Whose tweet?
It wasn't in the article
is this what I get after welcoming you to the independents?

Scroll up, find the freakin tweet from NYT and read the
phrase in the picture put out in the NYT tweet


I read the article. That was not in the article
& I feel welcome
great. Read the tweet.. was it in the NYT tweet? Yes or no

The tweet belongs to NYT.. trash
I thought mean tweets weren't problems
You deceptively referenced the article when it is clearly in the tweet. Calling you out on your purposefully misleading statement isn't a comment on mean tweets but on deceptive posting.

Maybe try being honest.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 3:46p, 10/15/22
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
The quote about misinformation wasn't in the NYT article
but is was in their tweet


Whose tweet?
It wasn't in the article
is this what I get after welcoming you to the independents?

Scroll up, find the freakin tweet from NYT and read the
phrase in the picture put out in the NYT tweet


I read the article. That was not in the article
& I feel welcome
great. Read the tweet.. was it in the NYT tweet? Yes or no

The tweet belongs to NYT.. trash
I thought mean tweets weren't problems


We're not voting for lunatic evil politicians in retaliation here. Learn the difference.
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In reply to Adriacus Peratuun • 3:47p, 10/15/22
Adriacus Peratuun said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
The quote about misinformation wasn't in the NYT article
but is was in their tweet


Whose tweet?
It wasn't in the article
is this what I get after welcoming you to the independents?

Scroll up, find the freakin tweet from NYT and read the
phrase in the picture put out in the NYT tweet


I read the article. That was not in the article
& I feel welcome
great. Read the tweet.. was it in the NYT tweet? Yes or no

The tweet belongs to NYT.. trash
I thought mean tweets weren't problems
You deceptively referenced the article when it is clearly in the tweet. Calling you out on your purposefully misleading statement isn't a comment on mean tweets but on deceptive posting.

Maybe try being honest.
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In reply to Cobretti • 3:51p, 10/15/22
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Herschel Walker was 'holding his own' during debate against Warnock, media admit



lol, he beat Warnock soundly..

Warnock was bad.
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In reply to Adriacus Peratuun • 3:55p, 10/15/22
Adriacus Peratuun said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
The quote about misinformation wasn't in the NYT article
but is was in their tweet


Whose tweet?
It wasn't in the article
is this what I get after welcoming you to the independents?

Scroll up, find the freakin tweet from NYT and read the
phrase in the picture put out in the NYT tweet


I read the article. That was not in the article
& I feel welcome
great. Read the tweet.. was it in the NYT tweet? Yes or no

The tweet belongs to NYT.. trash
I thought mean tweets weren't problems
You deceptively referenced the article when it is clearly in the tweet. Calling you out on your purposefully misleading statement isn't a comment on mean tweets but on deceptive posting.
BTW, your posts on the realignment thread are among the best on this board
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 4:17p, 10/15/22
4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
I didn't get your post for reasons that make no difference here. I now see what you mean. Apologies.

New York Times called out for blasting Ron Johnson, hailing Mandela Barnes in debate preview
New York Times called Johnson 'leading peddler of misinformation' while Barnes was described as a 'rising star'
The New York Times tweeted out a rhetorically charged description of Wisconsin's U.S. Senate race candidates that led to familiar charges of bias against the liberal outlet.
Leading into the Thursday night debate, the Times sent a tweet that labeled Republican Sen. Ron Johnson as a "leading peddler of misinformation" and Democratic candidate Lt. Gov. Mandela Barnes a "rising star."
"Senator Johnson, a leading peddler of misinformation, will debate the lieutenant governor Barnes, a liberal Democrat, who has been touted as one of the party's rising stars. The two will debate at 7 p.m. E.T.." the tweet read.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-called-out-blasting-ron-johnson-hailing-mandela-barnes-debate-preview

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In reply to Osodecentx • 4:58p, 10/15/22
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
I didn't get your post for reasons that make no difference here. I now see what you mean. Apologies.

New York Times called out for blasting Ron Johnson, hailing Mandela Barnes in debate preview
New York Times called Johnson 'leading peddler of misinformation' while Barnes was described as a 'rising star'
The New York Times tweeted out a rhetorically charged description of Wisconsin's U.S. Senate race candidates that led to familiar charges of bias against the liberal outlet.
Leading into the Thursday night debate, the Times sent a tweet that labeled Republican Sen. Ron Johnson as a "leading peddler of misinformation" and Democratic candidate Lt. Gov. Mandela Barnes a "rising star."
"Senator Johnson, a leading peddler of misinformation, will debate the lieutenant governor Barnes, a liberal Democrat, who has been touted as one of the party's rising stars. The two will debate at 7 p.m. E.T.." the tweet read.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-called-out-blasting-ron-johnson-hailing-mandela-barnes-debate-preview

all good my brother, we independents got to stick together!
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6:19p, 10/15/22

New York makes the second governor's race in a heavily Democratic state that has moved to "toss-up" in recent weeks. Last month, the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia moved its Crystal Ball rating for the Oregon gubernatorial race from "leans Democratic" to "toss-up."
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In reply to Cobretti • 6:23p, 10/15/22
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New York makes the second governor's race in a heavily Democratic state that has moved to "toss-up" in recent weeks. Last month, the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia moved its Crystal Ball rating for the Oregon gubernatorial race from "leans Democratic" to "toss-up."
Oregon should move from tossup to lean GOP
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 9:06p, 10/15/22
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These kinda of generic numbers make it difficult to come up with scenarios where Dems win any of the battleground races. And will battle hard to keep traditionally safe seats.

Lo & behold, we see tightening races in places that GOP hasn't won in decades.

So the question becomes - is the GOP surging late, or has it always been a red tsunami. Smart money would bet on something closer to the latter.

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In reply to whiterock • 9:42p, 10/15/22
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4th and Inches said:


These kinda of generic numbers make it difficult to come up with scenarios where Dems win any of the battleground races. And will battle hard to keep traditionally safe seats.

Lo & behold, we see tightening races in places that GOP hasn't won in decades.

So the question becomes - is the GOP surging late, or has it always been a red tsunami. Smart money would bet on something closer to the latter.



Idk how many people have said on here that the polls would start to become more accurate as the election nears.

Pretty sure its the latter.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 8:14a, 10/16/22
Sam Lowry said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Sam Lowry said:
4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
If you don't want the NYT to call you a leading peddler of misinformation, maybe don't be a leading peddler of misinformation? I don't know.
I don't remember Johnson parroting Trump was a Russian agent or vaccines would prevent people from getting covid, but maybe I missed it.
You missed a lot about the vaccines.


Sooooo much irony here…
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In reply to Osodecentx • 8:19a, 10/16/22
Osodecentx said:
Adriacus Peratuun said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
The quote about misinformation wasn't in the NYT article
but is was in their tweet


Whose tweet?
It wasn't in the article
is this what I get after welcoming you to the independents?

Scroll up, find the freakin tweet from NYT and read the
phrase in the picture put out in the NYT tweet


I read the article. That was not in the article
& I feel welcome
great. Read the tweet.. was it in the NYT tweet? Yes or no

The tweet belongs to NYT.. trash
I thought mean tweets weren't problems
You deceptively referenced the article when it is clearly in the tweet. Calling you out on your purposefully misleading statement isn't a comment on mean tweets but on deceptive posting.
BTW, your posts on the realignment thread are among the best on this board


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In reply to 4th and Inches • 12:02p, 10/16/22
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Makes sense. Democrats are becoming the party of the super wealthy, the entitled, the political class, and the unproductive.
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In reply to Mothra • 12:28p, 10/16/22
Mothra said:
Osodecentx said:
Adriacus Peratuun said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
The quote about misinformation wasn't in the NYT article
but is was in their tweet


Whose tweet?
It wasn't in the article
is this what I get after welcoming you to the independents?

Scroll up, find the freakin tweet from NYT and read the
phrase in the picture put out in the NYT tweet


I read the article. That was not in the article
& I feel welcome
great. Read the tweet.. was it in the NYT tweet? Yes or no

The tweet belongs to NYT.. trash
I thought mean tweets weren't problems
You deceptively referenced the article when it is clearly in the tweet. Calling you out on your purposefully misleading statement isn't a comment on mean tweets but on deceptive posting.
BTW, your posts on the realignment thread are among the best on this board


When nobody seems to like you, you might be doing something wrong.
1. I guess you care about being liked by anonymous posters

2. Starting now I'm focusing on the things you and I have in common.
We're Pro-Life
We want conservative judges at all levels
We went to Baylor
We favor policies that strengthen families
We generally favor lower taxes
We favor legal immigration, we oppose open borders
We favor energy policies that encourage American energy independence
We generally support law enforcement
We want Republican majorities in the federal House and Senate
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In reply to Osodecentx • 12:50p, 10/16/22
Osodecentx said:
Mothra said:
Osodecentx said:
Adriacus Peratuun said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
The quote about misinformation wasn't in the NYT article
but is was in their tweet


Whose tweet?
It wasn't in the article
is this what I get after welcoming you to the independents?

Scroll up, find the freakin tweet from NYT and read the
phrase in the picture put out in the NYT tweet


I read the article. That was not in the article
& I feel welcome
great. Read the tweet.. was it in the NYT tweet? Yes or no

The tweet belongs to NYT.. trash
I thought mean tweets weren't problems
You deceptively referenced the article when it is clearly in the tweet. Calling you out on your purposefully misleading statement isn't a comment on mean tweets but on deceptive posting.
BTW, your posts on the realignment thread are among the best on this board


When nobody seems to like you, you might be doing something wrong.
1. I guess you care about being liked by anonymous posters
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In reply to Wrecks Quan Dough • 12:52p, 10/16/22
He Hate Me said:
Osodecentx said:
Mothra said:
Osodecentx said:
Adriacus Peratuun said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
The quote about misinformation wasn't in the NYT article
but is was in their tweet


Whose tweet?
It wasn't in the article
is this what I get after welcoming you to the independents?

Scroll up, find the freakin tweet from NYT and read the
phrase in the picture put out in the NYT tweet


I read the article. That was not in the article
& I feel welcome
great. Read the tweet.. was it in the NYT tweet? Yes or no

The tweet belongs to NYT.. trash
I thought mean tweets weren't problems
You deceptively referenced the article when it is clearly in the tweet. Calling you out on your purposefully misleading statement isn't a comment on mean tweets but on deceptive posting.
BTW, your posts on the realignment thread are among the best on this board


When nobody seems to like you, you might be doing something wrong.
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Perfect
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 1:35p, 10/16/22
4th and Inches said:
You've been good on polling. I have a question.
RCP average of polls shows Fetterman leading in every poll, but not getting to 50%.
RCP then projects the GOP will hold the seat.

I don't understand, unless there is some "secret sauce" in their interpretation of the polls.

Do you understand their. projection.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 2:12p, 10/16/22
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4th and Inches said:
You've been good on polling. I have a question.
RCP average of polls shows Fetterman leading in every poll, but not getting to 50%.
RCP then projects the GOP will hold the seat.

I don't understand, unless there is some "secret sauce" in their interpretation of the polls.

Do you understand their. projection.


They probably understand the intent of the pollsters.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 2:24p, 10/16/22
Osodecentx said:
Mothra said:
Osodecentx said:
Adriacus Peratuun said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
The quote about misinformation wasn't in the NYT article
but is was in their tweet


Whose tweet?
It wasn't in the article
is this what I get after welcoming you to the independents?

Scroll up, find the freakin tweet from NYT and read the
phrase in the picture put out in the NYT tweet


I read the article. That was not in the article
& I feel welcome
great. Read the tweet.. was it in the NYT tweet? Yes or no

The tweet belongs to NYT.. trash
I thought mean tweets weren't problems
You deceptively referenced the article when it is clearly in the tweet. Calling you out on your purposefully misleading statement isn't a comment on mean tweets but on deceptive posting.
BTW, your posts on the realignment thread are among the best on this board


When nobody seems to like you, you might be doing something wrong.
1. I guess you care about being liked by anonymous posters

2. Starting now I'm focusing on the things you and I have in common.
We're Pro-Life
We want conservative judges at all levels
We went to Baylor
We favor policies that strengthen families
We generally favor lower taxes
We favor legal immigration, we oppose open borders
We favor energy policies that encourage American energy independence
We generally support law enforcement
We want Republican majorities in the federal House and Senate


Sounds good on paper but you've already told us you're going to support the antithesis of each of those beliefs if trump or potentially a trump supporting Republican is the nominee.

In short, when the rubber meets the road, you won't support any of those things. You've already told us this.
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In reply to Wrecks Quan Dough • 3:03p, 10/16/22
He Hate Me said:
Osodecentx said:
Mothra said:
Osodecentx said:
Adriacus Peratuun said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Cobretti said:
"a leading peddler of misinformation"

Ron Johnson will win, book it!

NYT is trash and attempting to influence the election. That is not reporting, there is a clear bias in the wording
The quote about misinformation wasn't in the NYT article
but is was in their tweet


Whose tweet?
It wasn't in the article
is this what I get after welcoming you to the independents?

Scroll up, find the freakin tweet from NYT and read the
phrase in the picture put out in the NYT tweet


I read the article. That was not in the article
& I feel welcome
great. Read the tweet.. was it in the NYT tweet? Yes or no

The tweet belongs to NYT.. trash
I thought mean tweets weren't problems
You deceptively referenced the article when it is clearly in the tweet. Calling you out on your purposefully misleading statement isn't a comment on mean tweets but on deceptive posting.
BTW, your posts on the realignment thread are among the best on this board


When nobody seems to like you, you might be doing something wrong.
1. I guess you care about being liked by anonymous posters
TMI
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In reply to Osodecentx • 3:07p, 10/16/22
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
You've been good on polling. I have a question.
RCP average of polls shows Fetterman leading in every poll, but not getting to 50%.
RCP then projects the GOP will hold the seat.

I don't understand, unless there is some "secret sauce" in their interpretation of the polls.

Do you understand their. projection.
It's the Carville Principle: "The incumbent gets his last number."

meaning.....Fetterman's polling average is 46%. Very few of those undecideds who are being polled are going to vote for him...IF they show up to vote.

So if you're Fetterman, you have to shrink the electorate....to ensure that the undecideds do not vote. You do that by going thermo-nuclear on Oz. Like Obama did on Romney - "He tied his dog to the roof of his car"....."binders of women"......etc....no critique is too outlandish. Each one will persuade a certain sliver of the electorate. You have to make your opponent looks even WORSE than you. Because if the undecideds do show up to vote, 8 out of 10 or more will vote for Oz.

Any incumbent consistently below 50% is vulnerable. And when they are stuck/capped in the mid-40's, they have a daunting challenge. They will not win if the people who are getting polled all show up to vote. The only route to victory is to make the undecideds stay home. And undecideds do NOT like negative campaigning. So. you launch barrages. It worked. That's how Obama won in 2012. He was very, very vulnerable, because he was very very unpopular. So he made Romney even more unpopular.

That is a viable plan if you are a likeable guy like Obama.
Fetterman is hardly the likeable guy type of guy.

And in this macro-environment, with raging inflation, mired in a recession, war abroad, etc....just nowhere is there sunshine to campaign in. Dems are less motivated than Repubs. Every poll done shows independents 3-1 or more leaning GOP. Etc.... Independents WILL vote. and they will not be voting blue.

red wave election..... Fetterman cannot stop the wave. Few Dem incumbents polling below 50 are going to survive.
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3:14p, 10/16/22
Betting odds are also pretty good indicators. People placing bets think GOP will control both houses.

https://www.bonus.com/election/midterms/

Look at the trend lines.......
What could cause them to change, or even flatten?
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In reply to Osodecentx • 3:30p, 10/16/22
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
You've been good on polling. I have a question.
RCP average of polls shows Fetterman leading in every poll, but not getting to 50%.
RCP then projects the GOP will hold the seat.

I don't understand, unless there is some "secret sauce" in their interpretation of the polls.

Do you understand their. projection.
only 2 of the RCP polls are really showing anything of value (throw out those less than 1000 respondents and throw out the polls that are RV instead of LV) and both place the spread well within the MOE..

Fetterman cant hit 50% and OZ is gaining which means undecideds are deciding.

Its a coin toss from a polling stand point. Voting enthusiasm leans hard GOP so calling a Toss up race for GOP is acceptable.
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In reply to whiterock • 3:30p, 10/16/22
whiterock said:
Betting odds are also pretty good indicators. People placing bets think GOP will control both houses.

https://www.bonus.com/election/midterms/

Look at the trend lines.......
What could cause them to change, or even flatten?
those odds for betting for Trump in a senate race is funny
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 4:07p, 10/16/22
4th and Inches said:
whiterock said:
Betting odds are also pretty good indicators. People placing bets think GOP will control both houses.

https://www.bonus.com/election/midterms/

Look at the trend lines.......
What could cause them to change, or even flatten?
those odds for betting for Trump in a senate race is funny

Speaker race, too.

It's like there's no conspiracy wild enough for neverTrumpers to not believe.
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6:43p, 10/16/22
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In reply to Cobretti • 6:48p, 10/16/22
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NYT continues to carry water for the cause..
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6:58p, 10/16/22
Incoming!!

AXIOS: House Republicans are increasingly confident they can make unexpected inroads into some solidly Democratic congressional districts... Republicans are now pouring over $25M into some of the bluest political battlegrounds on the map
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7:57p, 10/16/22
Using RV this late in the game is indefensible

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10:27p, 10/16/22
I've seen the internal polling numbers for Republicans in Georgia. It's almost even between Warnock and Walker. But for what it's worth that same internal polling was UGLY just 60 days ago so the trend is very positive for Walker. He also did surprisingly well in the debate. While it wasn't Lincoln-Douglas, what is a weak point for him and could have been a killer this close to the election turned out to be a positive for him and harmed Warnock.

Kemp is believed to be a lock majority with no run off.
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