Ursus Americanus said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

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Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

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Trump is only electable because the Democratic field is inept, if they had a remotely appealing candidate he wouldn't win.

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I don't know about that, but whiterock is correct, all roads to the 2024 White House involve beating Trump or supporting him. He is the focus.

whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

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Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

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What do you call someone that will win the Primary and lose the General. For the General Election, Trump will generate levels of hate and concerted action to stop him that will make 2020 look like a picnic. He is unelectable. Turnout will make Biden's 81 million look like JV. He really needs to stay in PAC world.

"Black men are too stupid to know they should be voting for me"

Stacey Abrams explaining her poll numbers: "Unfortunately, this year, black men have been a very targeted population for misinformation. Not misinformation about what they want but about why they want what they deserve." pic.twitter.com/HhPxK0vVgj

— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) November 6, 2022

RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

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Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

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What do you call someone that will win the Primary and lose the General. For the General Election, Trump will generate levels of hate and concerted action to stop him that will make 2020 look like a picnic. He is unelectable. Turnout will make Biden's 81 million look like JV. He really needs to stay in PAC world.

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Trump generated that hate because we were in a good place as a country- people will remember that and he would do better, win the popular vote, and beat any current Dem canidate for this reason alone if the election was tuesday. 2024 is far away.

He wont be the guy in 2024.

4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

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Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

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What do you call someone that will win the Primary and lose the General. For the General Election, Trump will generate levels of hate and concerted action to stop him that will make 2020 look like a picnic. He is unelectable. Turnout will make Biden's 81 million look like JV. He really needs to stay in PAC world.

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Trump generated that hate because we were in a good place as a country- people will remember that and he would do better, win the popular vote, and beat any current Dem canidate for this reason alone if the election was tuesday. 2024 is far away.

He wont be the guy in 2024.

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No, What they will remember is the Jan 6th stuff and his wanting Pence to not certify. They will remember him and Rudi ranting on the stage. That will bring out every leftist and independent-moderate against him. DeSantis is a much more electable choice. 4 more years of Trump will be more of the current polarizing crap. We can't survive that. .

RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

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Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

---

What do you call someone that will win the Primary and lose the General. For the General Election, Trump will generate levels of hate and concerted action to stop him that will make 2020 look like a picnic. He is unelectable. Turnout will make Biden's 81 million look like JV. He really needs to stay in PAC world.

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Trump generated that hate because we were in a good place as a country- people will remember that and he would do better, win the popular vote, and beat any current Dem canidate for this reason alone if the election was tuesday. 2024 is far away.

He wont be the guy in 2024.

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No, What they will remember is the Jan 6th stuff and his wanting Pence to not certify. They will remember him and Rudi ranting on the stage. That will bring out every leftist and independent-moderate against him. DeSantis is a much more electable choice. 4 more years of Trump will be more of the current polarizing crap. We can't survive that. .

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Problem with that line of reasoning is, a majority think fraud affected the outcome of the election. And cancel culture….cultural institutions choosing sides…made it unfair. An even bigger number sees that. And Trump is the proper vehicle to exploit that sentiment. Flip side is, retreads are rare. So historical precedence is against him regardless of his quirks.

Like 4th said - it's a long time to 2024. At least a year. Political capital lives and dies in turns of phrases. But like it or not….Trump is going to be very hard to defeat.

And Kari Lake is going make life harder for Desantis.

We have a number of viable options on our side.

whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

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Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

---

What do you call someone that will win the Primary and lose the General. For the General Election, Trump will generate levels of hate and concerted action to stop him that will make 2020 look like a picnic. He is unelectable. Turnout will make Biden's 81 million look like JV. He really needs to stay in PAC world.

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Trump generated that hate because we were in a good place as a country- people will remember that and he would do better, win the popular vote, and beat any current Dem canidate for this reason alone if the election was tuesday. 2024 is far away.

He wont be the guy in 2024.

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No, What they will remember is the Jan 6th stuff and his wanting Pence to not certify. They will remember him and Rudi ranting on the stage. That will bring out every leftist and independent-moderate against him. DeSantis is a much more electable choice. 4 more years of Trump will be more of the current polarizing crap. We can't survive that. .

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Problem with that line of reasoning is, a majority think fraud affected the outcome of the election. And cancel culture….cultural institutions choosing sides…made it unfair. An even bigger number sees that. And Trump is the proper vehicle to exploit that sentiment. Flip side is, retreads are rare. So historical precedence is against him regardless of his quirks.

Like 4th said - it's a long time to 2024. At least a year. Political capital lives and dies in turns of phrases. But like it or not….Trump is going to be very hard to defeat.

And Kari Lake is going make life harder for Desantis.

We have a number of viable options on our side.

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Personally, I think he is in his most effective role right now. PAC, surrogate, outside the system supporting. Just don't see him moving to that role, it is all about him

RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

---

Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

---

What do you call someone that will win the Primary and lose the General. For the General Election, Trump will generate levels of hate and concerted action to stop him that will make 2020 look like a picnic. He is unelectable. Turnout will make Biden's 81 million look like JV. He really needs to stay in PAC world.

---

Trump generated that hate because we were in a good place as a country- people will remember that and he would do better, win the popular vote, and beat any current Dem canidate for this reason alone if the election was tuesday. 2024 is far away.

He wont be the guy in 2024.

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No, What they will remember is the Jan 6th stuff and his wanting Pence to not certify. They will remember him and Rudi ranting on the stage. That will bring out every leftist and independent-moderate against him. DeSantis is a much more electable choice. 4 more years of Trump will be more of the current polarizing crap. We can't survive that. .

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Problem with that line of reasoning is, a majority think fraud affected the outcome of the election. And cancel culture….cultural institutions choosing sides…made it unfair. An even bigger number sees that. And Trump is the proper vehicle to exploit that sentiment. Flip side is, retreads are rare. So historical precedence is against him regardless of his quirks.

Like 4th said - it's a long time to 2024. At least a year. Political capital lives and dies in turns of phrases. But like it or not….Trump is going to be very hard to defeat.

And Kari Lake is going make life harder for Desantis.

We have a number of viable options on our side.

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Personally, I think he is in his most effective role right now. PAC, surrogate, outside the system supporting. Just don't see him moving to that role, it is all about him

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i think he would do that role if he realizes he can be a king maker and influence national policy while not being president and make money off doing it.

On the other hand, "its good to be the king"

4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

---

Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

---

What do you call someone that will win the Primary and lose the General. For the General Election, Trump will generate levels of hate and concerted action to stop him that will make 2020 look like a picnic. He is unelectable. Turnout will make Biden's 81 million look like JV. He really needs to stay in PAC world.

---

Trump generated that hate because we were in a good place as a country- people will remember that and he would do better, win the popular vote, and beat any current Dem canidate for this reason alone if the election was tuesday. 2024 is far away.

He wont be the guy in 2024.

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No, What they will remember is the Jan 6th stuff and his wanting Pence to not certify. They will remember him and Rudi ranting on the stage. That will bring out every leftist and independent-moderate against him. DeSantis is a much more electable choice. 4 more years of Trump will be more of the current polarizing crap. We can't survive that. .

---

Problem with that line of reasoning is, a majority think fraud affected the outcome of the election. And cancel culture….cultural institutions choosing sides…made it unfair. An even bigger number sees that. And Trump is the proper vehicle to exploit that sentiment. Flip side is, retreads are rare. So historical precedence is against him regardless of his quirks.

Like 4th said - it's a long time to 2024. At least a year. Political capital lives and dies in turns of phrases. But like it or not….Trump is going to be very hard to defeat.

And Kari Lake is going make life harder for Desantis.

We have a number of viable options on our side.

---

Personally, I think he is in his most effective role right now. PAC, surrogate, outside the system supporting. Just don't see him moving to that role, it is all about him

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i think he would do that role if he realizes he can be a king maker and influence national policy while not being president and make money off doing it.

On the other hand, "its good to be the king"

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Pompeo defending DeSantis speaks volumes. Trump's crap will not be tolerated.

RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

---

Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

---

What do you call someone that will win the Primary and lose the General. For the General Election, Trump will generate levels of hate and concerted action to stop him that will make 2020 look like a picnic. He is unelectable. Turnout will make Biden's 81 million look like JV. He really needs to stay in PAC world.

---

Trump generated that hate because we were in a good place as a country- people will remember that and he would do better, win the popular vote, and beat any current Dem canidate for this reason alone if the election was tuesday. 2024 is far away.

He wont be the guy in 2024.

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No, What they will remember is the Jan 6th stuff and his wanting Pence to not certify. They will remember him and Rudi ranting on the stage. That will bring out every leftist and independent-moderate against him. DeSantis is a much more electable choice. 4 more years of Trump will be more of the current polarizing crap. We can't survive that. .

---

Problem with that line of reasoning is, a majority think fraud affected the outcome of the election. And cancel culture….cultural institutions choosing sides…made it unfair. An even bigger number sees that. And Trump is the proper vehicle to exploit that sentiment. Flip side is, retreads are rare. So historical precedence is against him regardless of his quirks.

Like 4th said - it's a long time to 2024. At least a year. Political capital lives and dies in turns of phrases. But like it or not….Trump is going to be very hard to defeat.

And Kari Lake is going make life harder for Desantis.

We have a number of viable options on our side.

---

Personally, I think he is in his most effective role right now. PAC, surrogate, outside the system supporting. Just don't see him moving to that role, it is all about him

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i think he would do that role if he realizes he can be a king maker and influence national policy while not being president and make money off doing it.

On the other hand, "its good to be the king"

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Pompeo defending DeSantis speaks volumes. Trump's crap will not be tolerated.

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Pompeo's defense will not help DeSantis with the MAGA base. It's separating the party into Trump/non-Trump dynamic with DeSantis on the Establishment side……

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RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

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Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

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What do you call someone that will win the Primary and lose the General. For the General Election, Trump will generate levels of hate and concerted action to stop him that will make 2020 look like a picnic. He is unelectable. Turnout will make Biden's 81 million look like JV. He really needs to stay in PAC world.

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Trump generated that hate because we were in a good place as a country- people will remember that and he would do better, win the popular vote, and beat any current Dem canidate for this reason alone if the election was tuesday. 2024 is far away.

He wont be the guy in 2024.

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No, What they will remember is the Jan 6th stuff and his wanting Pence to not certify. They will remember him and Rudi ranting on the stage. That will bring out every leftist and independent-moderate against him. DeSantis is a much more electable choice. 4 more years of Trump will be more of the current polarizing crap. We can't survive that. .

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Problem with that line of reasoning is, a majority think fraud affected the outcome of the election. And cancel culture….cultural institutions choosing sides…made it unfair. An even bigger number sees that. And Trump is the proper vehicle to exploit that sentiment. Flip side is, retreads are rare. So historical precedence is against him regardless of his quirks.

Like 4th said - it's a long time to 2024. At least a year. Political capital lives and dies in turns of phrases. But like it or not….Trump is going to be very hard to defeat.

And Kari Lake is going make life harder for Desantis.

We have a number of viable options on our side.

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Personally, I think he is in his most effective role right now. PAC, surrogate, outside the system supporting. Just don't see him moving to that role, it is all about him

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i think he would do that role if he realizes he can be a king maker and influence national policy while not being president and make money off doing it.

On the other hand, "its good to be the king"

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Pompeo defending DeSantis speaks volumes. Trump's crap will not be tolerated.

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Pompeo's defense will not help DeSantis with the MAGA base. It's separating the party into Trump/non-Trump dynamic with DeSantis on the Establishment side……

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This is the thing people don't get, DeSantis don't care. He will stay Gov of Florida for 4 more years. He WILL NOT be on the underside of anyone's ticket. As was said, it is good to be King. Being Trump's VP? No way.

I don't think when push comes to shove, Trump will get the nomination. He will make most noise, but at end of day no way.

RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

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Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

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What do you call someone that will win the Primary and lose the General. For the General Election, Trump will generate levels of hate and concerted action to stop him that will make 2020 look like a picnic. He is unelectable. Turnout will make Biden's 81 million look like JV. He really needs to stay in PAC world.

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Trump generated that hate because we were in a good place as a country- people will remember that and he would do better, win the popular vote, and beat any current Dem canidate for this reason alone if the election was tuesday. 2024 is far away.

He wont be the guy in 2024.

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No, What they will remember is the Jan 6th stuff and his wanting Pence to not certify. They will remember him and Rudi ranting on the stage. That will bring out every leftist and independent-moderate against him. DeSantis is a much more electable choice. 4 more years of Trump will be more of the current polarizing crap. We can't survive that. .

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Problem with that line of reasoning is, a majority think fraud affected the outcome of the election. And cancel culture….cultural institutions choosing sides…made it unfair. An even bigger number sees that. And Trump is the proper vehicle to exploit that sentiment. Flip side is, retreads are rare. So historical precedence is against him regardless of his quirks.

Like 4th said - it's a long time to 2024. At least a year. Political capital lives and dies in turns of phrases. But like it or not….Trump is going to be very hard to defeat.

And Kari Lake is going make life harder for Desantis.

We have a number of viable options on our side.

---

Personally, I think he is in his most effective role right now. PAC, surrogate, outside the system supporting. Just don't see him moving to that role, it is all about him

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i think he would do that role if he realizes he can be a king maker and influence national policy while not being president and make money off doing it.

On the other hand, "its good to be the king"

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Pompeo defending DeSantis speaks volumes. Trump's crap will not be tolerated.

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pompeo stated he would vote for Trump in a heartbeat in 24 so there is that..

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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I saw a poll yesterday that had Trump at 53% support, with DeSantis about half that. That's the lowest I've seen Trump, and frankly I was surprised that DeSantis wasn't a bit higher, suggesting that support leaking (very slowly...over months) away from Trump is not all going directly to DeSantis. But make no mistake, the 2024 GOP primary is underway. And whatever can be said about Trump, one of his best attributes as a politician is that he's never NOT campaigning. All good ones are like that. Trump is among the best. He took out Pence before Biden was even inaugurated. Tough business, politics.

Trump at 53% is still in a dominating position so long as the field has more than 2 other contenders. Will win almost every primary. All he has to do is keep jabbing to keep DeSantis at bay.

But I suspect that is not the biggest obstacle DeSantis will have = Kari Lake. I think she is better than DeSantis.

Now, she has to prove her chops on the policy side, to demonstrate that she is as good at governance as at campaigning. And that will take at least a full session of the AZ lege. So she will be late to the party. And she may not run. But she will steal some sunshine from DeSantis.

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I prefer Lake over Desantis

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Why ?

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I like Desantis, but I don't see him going scorched earth on the establishment like Lake would.

Reminder to vote! Stop and fill up your gas tank on The way... it'll help with your decision making.

Doc Holliday said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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I saw a poll yesterday that had Trump at 53% support, with DeSantis about half that. That's the lowest I've seen Trump, and frankly I was surprised that DeSantis wasn't a bit higher, suggesting that support leaking (very slowly...over months) away from Trump is not all going directly to DeSantis. But make no mistake, the 2024 GOP primary is underway. And whatever can be said about Trump, one of his best attributes as a politician is that he's never NOT campaigning. All good ones are like that. Trump is among the best. He took out Pence before Biden was even inaugurated. Tough business, politics.

Trump at 53% is still in a dominating position so long as the field has more than 2 other contenders. Will win almost every primary. All he has to do is keep jabbing to keep DeSantis at bay.

But I suspect that is not the biggest obstacle DeSantis will have = Kari Lake. I think she is better than DeSantis.

Now, she has to prove her chops on the policy side, to demonstrate that she is as good at governance as at campaigning. And that will take at least a full session of the AZ lege. So she will be late to the party. And she may not run. But she will steal some sunshine from DeSantis.

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I prefer Lake over Desantis

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Why ?

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I like Desantis, but I don't see him going scorched earth on the establishment like Lake would.

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Yup - whoever the democrats hate the most is a good rule of thumb on who to vote for.

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Doc Holliday said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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I saw a poll yesterday that had Trump at 53% support, with DeSantis about half that. That's the lowest I've seen Trump, and frankly I was surprised that DeSantis wasn't a bit higher, suggesting that support leaking (very slowly...over months) away from Trump is not all going directly to DeSantis. But make no mistake, the 2024 GOP primary is underway. And whatever can be said about Trump, one of his best attributes as a politician is that he's never NOT campaigning. All good ones are like that. Trump is among the best. He took out Pence before Biden was even inaugurated. Tough business, politics.

Trump at 53% is still in a dominating position so long as the field has more than 2 other contenders. Will win almost every primary. All he has to do is keep jabbing to keep DeSantis at bay.

But I suspect that is not the biggest obstacle DeSantis will have = Kari Lake. I think she is better than DeSantis.

Now, she has to prove her chops on the policy side, to demonstrate that she is as good at governance as at campaigning. And that will take at least a full session of the AZ lege. So she will be late to the party. And she may not run. But she will steal some sunshine from DeSantis.

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I prefer Lake over Desantis

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Why ?

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I like Desantis, but I don't see him going scorched earth on the establishment like Lake would.

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Yup - whoever the democrats hate the most is a good rule of thumb on who to vote for.

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Absolutely.

Plus the first female POTUS would be an anti establishment Republican lol

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Attacking unpopular and generally unlikable Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christy, etc.

does not equal

Attacking popular and generally likable Ron Desantis, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, etc.

What was cute and empowering to the outsiders last time will simply be annoying and tedious this time. And the Middle of the Roaders will coalesce quickly around one opposing option. With each attack, Trump will weaken not improve his position. The Angry Mad Outsider routine has been played. Trump won't adapt. Not adapting will be his downfall [along with overplaying his hand on a variety of issues].

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Well said. Nobody considers Desantis establishment and never will.

sombear said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Attacking unpopular and generally unlikable Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christy, etc.

does not equal

Attacking popular and generally likable Ron Desantis, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, etc.

What was cute and empowering to the outsiders last time will simply be annoying and tedious this time. And the Middle of the Roaders will coalesce quickly around one opposing option. With each attack, Trump will weaken not improve his position. The Angry Mad Outsider routine has been played. Trump won't adapt. Not adapting will be his downfall [along with overplaying his hand on a variety of issues].

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Well said. Nobody considers Desantis establishment and never will.

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Trust me, there is nothing "establishment" about DeSantis, ask Disney and educators. DeSantis will fight for what he believes is right. He will not rollover for anyone, including Trump.

Doc Holliday said:

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Married A Horn said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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I saw a poll yesterday that had Trump at 53% support, with DeSantis about half that. That's the lowest I've seen Trump, and frankly I was surprised that DeSantis wasn't a bit higher, suggesting that support leaking (very slowly...over months) away from Trump is not all going directly to DeSantis. But make no mistake, the 2024 GOP primary is underway. And whatever can be said about Trump, one of his best attributes as a politician is that he's never NOT campaigning. All good ones are like that. Trump is among the best. He took out Pence before Biden was even inaugurated. Tough business, politics.

Trump at 53% is still in a dominating position so long as the field has more than 2 other contenders. Will win almost every primary. All he has to do is keep jabbing to keep DeSantis at bay.

But I suspect that is not the biggest obstacle DeSantis will have = Kari Lake. I think she is better than DeSantis.

Now, she has to prove her chops on the policy side, to demonstrate that she is as good at governance as at campaigning. And that will take at least a full session of the AZ lege. So she will be late to the party. And she may not run. But she will steal some sunshine from DeSantis.

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I prefer Lake over Desantis

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Why ?

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I like Desantis, but I don't see him going scorched earth on the establishment like Lake would.

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Yup - whoever the democrats hate the most is a good rule of thumb on who to vote for.

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Absolutely.

Plus the first female POTUS would be an anti establishment Republican lol

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People always say Trump is a ham-handed bull in a China shop, yet here we are pointing out the deficiencies of the heir apparent and evaluating the upstart. All it took was dropping a good nickname.

RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

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Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

---

What do you call someone that will win the Primary and lose the General. For the General Election, Trump will generate levels of hate and concerted action to stop him that will make 2020 look like a picnic. He is unelectable. Turnout will make Biden's 81 million look like JV. He really needs to stay in PAC world.

---

Trump generated that hate because we were in a good place as a country- people will remember that and he would do better, win the popular vote, and beat any current Dem canidate for this reason alone if the election was tuesday. 2024 is far away.

He wont be the guy in 2024.

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No, What they will remember is the Jan 6th stuff and his wanting Pence to not certify. They will remember him and Rudi ranting on the stage. That will bring out every leftist and independent-moderate against him. DeSantis is a much more electable choice. 4 more years of Trump will be more of the current polarizing crap. We can't survive that. .

---

Problem with that line of reasoning is, a majority think fraud affected the outcome of the election. And cancel culture….cultural institutions choosing sides…made it unfair. An even bigger number sees that. And Trump is the proper vehicle to exploit that sentiment. Flip side is, retreads are rare. So historical precedence is against him regardless of his quirks.

Like 4th said - it's a long time to 2024. At least a year. Political capital lives and dies in turns of phrases. But like it or not….Trump is going to be very hard to defeat.

And Kari Lake is going make life harder for Desantis.

We have a number of viable options on our side.

---

Personally, I think he is in his most effective role right now. PAC, surrogate, outside the system supporting. Just don't see him moving to that role, it is all about him

---

i think he would do that role if he realizes he can be a king maker and influence national policy while not being president and make money off doing it.

On the other hand, "its good to be the king"

---

Pompeo defending DeSantis speaks volumes. Trump's crap will not be tolerated.

---

Pompeo's defense will not help DeSantis with the MAGA base. It's separating the party into Trump/non-Trump dynamic with DeSantis on the Establishment side……

---

This is the thing people don't get, DeSantis don't care. He will stay Gov of Florida for 4 more years. He WILL NOT be on the underside of anyone's ticket. As was said, it is good to be King. Being Trump's VP? No way.

I don't think when push comes to shove, Trump will get the nomination. He will make most noise, but at end of day no way.

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If he wants to be POTUS, he needs to be on the ticket (top or bottom, either one, doesn't matter) in 2024. Waiting to 2028 to run is a no-good, terrible, very soft brown banana. And he knows it.

RMF5630 said:

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sombear said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Attacking unpopular and generally unlikable Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christy, etc.

does not equal

Attacking popular and generally likable Ron Desantis, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, etc.

What was cute and empowering to the outsiders last time will simply be annoying and tedious this time. And the Middle of the Roaders will coalesce quickly around one opposing option. With each attack, Trump will weaken not improve his position. The Angry Mad Outsider routine has been played. Trump won't adapt. Not adapting will be his downfall [along with overplaying his hand on a variety of issues].

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Well said. Nobody considers Desantis establishment and never will.

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Trust me, there is nothing "establishment" about DeSantis, ask Disney and educators. DeSantis will fight for what he believes is right. He will not rollover for anyone, including Trump.

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"Establishment" means GOP establishment. And he's closer to them that he wants people to realize. He spent time in Washington. Voted for House leadership positions, etc…. Known commodity. Not exactly an "outsider." I've actually cited this as a reason why he's the perfect VP choice. He's the guy who could bridge the gap between MAGA and the WDC crowd.

More to the point, he is being courted by DC establishment. And Trump exposed it with a comment that is a not-so-subtle reminder that you can't ride two horses with one ass.

DeSantis's plan looks something like this…..govern publicly while quietly making key phone calls to donors and key state party leaders, to posture exactly as he's been doing, the obvious but not disloyal heir to the MAGA base. He has to keep it subtle enough that it can be plausibly portrayed as keeping his powder dry should Trump not run, or falter. DO NOT engage Trump directly. It's lose/lose. Old adages about wrestling with pigs apply. The threshold is 10-12 months away. So maintain strategic ambiguity.

Trump thumped him on the ear to let him know not to get too cute.

Trump is way better at this game than his critics allow.

The next 12 months are going to be a lot of fun.

There's plenty of time for political analysis just as there was plenty of time for Trump to hit Desantis, but no, the buffoon had to do it the weekend before the vote.

whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RMF5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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seen just now in Twitter feed:

I’ll tell everyone what it was right now, though it’s not the smartest fight for REPs to have before a midterm.

When Ron DeSantis is chatting with @kevinomccarthy and Team Paul Ryan behind the back of the man who made him the governor of Florida, it was bound to happen.

… https://t.co/to7Qq4Wlv8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) November 6, 2022

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Trump forfeited that with his behavior after the 2020 election. His behavior, rally and ultimately Jan 6th cost him that right. The GOP would have rolled if not for that fiasco with his legal team, certification scheme and rallies after losing. His sore loser antics and childish tantrums cost the GOP.

He is a pariah in politics. He will motivate his base, but he will also motivate every liberal and left-leaning independent to vote against him. DeSantis gains nothing with Trump, those people will vote DeSantis over any Dem. This problem is the sensible moderate independents, DeSantis's performance during COVID, Ian and Flordia's growth will win them, not Trump.

---

Pariah is the wrong word choice. He has majority support of Republicans and at least 45% of the electorate would vote for him again. Polarizing captures it better. And that's viewing it in isolation. Democrats and alphabet media are going to treat any Republican the way they treat Trump.

Cold, hard reality RIGHT NOW, as of today, Trump has the largest coalition available to us. And it's growing. He's going to be hard to beat in the primary. And it's not clear that anyone else can inherit his coalition. Neither is it immediately apparent that building a different/better coalition Is any more viable than cobbling a few more percentage points to the one he commands.

Platitudes about unelectability are going to bounce off him like ping pong balls……

---

What do you call someone that will win the Primary and lose the General. For the General Election, Trump will generate levels of hate and concerted action to stop him that will make 2020 look like a picnic. He is unelectable. Turnout will make Biden's 81 million look like JV. He really needs to stay in PAC world.

---

Trump generated that hate because we were in a good place as a country- people will remember that and he would do better, win the popular vote, and beat any current Dem canidate for this reason alone if the election was tuesday. 2024 is far away.

He wont be the guy in 2024.

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No, What they will remember is the Jan 6th stuff and his wanting Pence to not certify. They will remember him and Rudi ranting on the stage. That will bring out every leftist and independent-moderate against him. DeSantis is a much more electable choice. 4 more years of Trump will be more of the current polarizing crap. We can't survive that. .

---

Problem with that line of reasoning is, a majority think fraud affected the outcome of the election. And cancel culture….cultural institutions choosing sides…made it unfair. An even bigger number sees that. And Trump is the proper vehicle to exploit that sentiment. Flip side is, retreads are rare. So historical precedence is against him regardless of his quirks.

Like 4th said - it's a long time to 2024. At least a year. Political capital lives and dies in turns of phrases. But like it or not….Trump is going to be very hard to defeat.

And Kari Lake is going make life harder for Desantis.

We have a number of viable options on our side.

---

Personally, I think he is in his most effective role right now. PAC, surrogate, outside the system supporting. Just don't see him moving to that role, it is all about him

---

i think he would do that role if he realizes he can be a king maker and influence national policy while not being president and make money off doing it.

On the other hand, "its good to be the king"

---

Pompeo defending DeSantis speaks volumes. Trump's crap will not be tolerated.

---

Pompeo's defense will not help DeSantis with the MAGA base. It's separating the party into Trump/non-Trump dynamic with DeSantis on the Establishment side……

---

This is the thing people don't get, DeSantis don't care. He will stay Gov of Florida for 4 more years. He WILL NOT be on the underside of anyone's ticket. As was said, it is good to be King. Being Trump's VP? No way.

I don't think when push comes to shove, Trump will get the nomination. He will make most noise, but at end of day no way.

---

If he wants to be POTUS, he needs to be on the ticket (top or bottom, either one, doesn't matter) in 2024. Waiting to 2028 to run is a no-good, terrible, very soft brown banana. And he knows it.

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I will soft wager on this one. I met DeSantis on a project, he is not going to be #2.

sombear said:

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There's plenty of time for political analysis just as there was plenty of time for Trump to hit Desantis, but no, the buffoon had to do it the weekend before the vote.

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That is it.

sombear said:

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There's plenty of time for political analysis just as there was plenty of time for Trump to hit Desantis, but no, the buffoon had to do it the weekend before the vote.

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wont effect him at all.. he is roding his own wave in FL

4th and Inches said:

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sombear said:

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There's plenty of time for political analysis just as there was plenty of time for Trump to hit Desantis, but no, the buffoon had to do it the weekend before the vote.

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wont effect him at all.. he is roding his own wave in FL

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But why would Trump attack a Republican on the weekend before an election?

Osodecentx said:

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4th and Inches said:

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sombear said:

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There's plenty of time for political analysis just as there was plenty of time for Trump to hit Desantis, but no, the buffoon had to do it the weekend before the vote.

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wont effect him at all.. he is roding his own wave in FL

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But why would Trump attack a Republican on the weekend before an election?

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who knows, hes a moronic blowhard..

Still a better president than the current and one prior to him. Sad really..

Osodecentx said:

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4th and Inches said:

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sombear said:

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There's plenty of time for political analysis just as there was plenty of time for Trump to hit Desantis, but no, the buffoon had to do it the weekend before the vote.

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wont effect him at all.. he is roding his own wave in FL

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But why would Trump attack a Republican on the weekend before an election?

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Or at all. Reagan's Rule should be followed.

Osodecentx said:

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4th and Inches said:

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sombear said:

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There's plenty of time for political analysis just as there was plenty of time for Trump to hit Desantis, but no, the buffoon had to do it the weekend before the vote.

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wont effect him at all.. he is roding his own wave in FL

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But why would Trump attack a Republican on the weekend before an election?

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He reacts, he doesn't think. He can't keep his mouth shut. There has been 90% of his problems!

Canada2017 said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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4th and Inches said:

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sombear said:

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There's plenty of time for political analysis just as there was plenty of time for Trump to hit Desantis, but no, the buffoon had to do it the weekend before the vote.

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wont effect him at all.. he is roding his own wave in FL

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But why would Trump attack a Republican on the weekend before an election?

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He reacts, he doesn't think. He can't keep his mouth shut. There has been 90% of his problems!

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Which is why the Republicans need to keep trump's ass off the National ticket in 2025.

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This is one area we are locked step. He forfeited that right with his behavior at the end of his Presidency. Stay in PAC world.

Canada2017 said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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4th and Inches said:

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sombear said:

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There's plenty of time for political analysis just as there was plenty of time for Trump to hit Desantis, but no, the buffoon had to do it the weekend before the vote.

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wont effect him at all.. he is roding his own wave in FL

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But why would Trump attack a Republican on the weekend before an election?

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He reacts, he doesn't think. He can't keep his mouth shut. There has been 90% of his problems!

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Which is why the Republicans need to keep trump's ass off the National ticket in 2025.

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2025?

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Canada2017 said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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4th and Inches said:

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sombear said:

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There's plenty of time for political analysis just as there was plenty of time for Trump to hit Desantis, but no, the buffoon had to do it the weekend before the vote.

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wont effect him at all.. he is roding his own wave in FL

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But why would Trump attack a Republican on the weekend before an election?

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He reacts, he doesn't think. He can't keep his mouth shut. There has been 90% of his problems!

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Which is why the Republicans need to keep trump's ass off the National ticket in 2025.

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2025?

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Metric calendar.

Canada2017 said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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4th and Inches said:

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sombear said:

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There's plenty of time for political analysis just as there was plenty of time for Trump to hit Desantis, but no, the buffoon had to do it the weekend before the vote.

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wont effect him at all.. he is roding his own wave in FL

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But why would Trump attack a Republican on the weekend before an election?

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He reacts, he doesn't think. He can't keep his mouth shut. There has been 90% of his problems!

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Which is why the Republicans need to keep trump's ass off the National ticket in 2024.

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You're going about it all wrong, you know.

1. Like it or not, Trump has more Republican support - by far - than anyone else. Attacking Trump is not going to win over Republicans to your position.

2. Trump has an incredible number of flaws, yet no one else has so effectively identified and attacked the Democrats' campaign of dismantling our Republic since 1993. The only way to become more popular with Republicans is to give Trump praise for what he got right, then identify the next step in bringing the Federal government back to what the Founders set up.

3. There is undeniably an Establishment element to the GOP, just as there is in the Democrats ranks. Protecting mandarins who just want to get rich and personally influential while ignoring their duties is not only morally wrong, but only helps the Democrats, who - despite their corruption - are more unified and focused in their plans.