Promote marriage. Save America.

It's the antithesis of LBJs dream. Democrats destroy families and societies.

The government is so arrogant and condescending. They are not our friends and they are only here to serve us.

CANDIDATES: All legal votes will be counted, including votes for you. If you have the most votes in the final tally, you will be elected. If you do not have the most votes, you will have lost your election.

— Maricopa County (@maricopacounty) November 12, 2022

The last part could be considered a little condescending.

I think mail in votes work better if they are treated as early voting. If mail ins must be postmarked 4 days before the general, and received on the day of the general, they could be tallied that day or a day later. These things being drawn out promotes mistrust.

Of course what do I know. Maybe the ones that draw it out get huge increases in funding for the next year and get to make themselves rich. Maybe Bill Gates isn't named so for nothing.

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The last part could be considered a little condescending.

I think mail in votes work better if they are treated as early voting. If mail ins must be postmarked 4 days before the general, and received on the day of the general, they could be tallied that day or a day later. These things being drawn out promotes mistrust.

Of course what do I know. Maybe the ones that draw it out get huge increases in funding for the next year and get to make themselves rich. Maybe Bill Gates isn't named so for nothing.

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That is Legislature. I agree, Florida does a good job.

Voters Reject Election Deniers Running to Take Over Elections
Every election denier who sought to become the top election official in a critical battleground state lost at the polls this year, as voters roundly rejected extreme partisans who promised to restrict voting and overhaul the electoral process.
The national repudiation of this coalition reached its apex on Saturday, when Cisco Aguilar, the Democratic candidate for secretary of state in Nevada, defeated Jim Marchant, according to The Associated Press. Mr. Marchant, the Republican nominee, had helped organize a national right-wing slate of candidates under the name "America First."
With Mr. Marchant's loss to Mr. Aguilar, all but one of those "America First" candidates were defeated. Only Diego Morales, a Republican in deep-red Indiana, was successful, while candidates in Michigan, Arizona and New Mexico were defeated.
Their losses halted a plan by some allies of former President Donald J. Trump and other influential donors to take over the election apparatus in critical states before the 2024 presidential election. The "America First" candidates, and their explicitly partisan statements, had alarmed Democrats, independent election experts and even some Republicans, who feared that if they gained office, they could threaten the integrity of future elections.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/12/us/politics/jim-marchant-nevada.html

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Massive...............And it's not the Republicans who are offering socialism.


Welcome to Argentina .

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Just another fun fact. GOP almost set a record for biggest gains against strong pro-Biden Reps. Criteria is as follows: D incumbents in districts that were Biden +15 to Biden +30 in 2020 Pres election. Repub candidate got within single digit %. Repubs also closed gap in closer Biden + districts but fell short in 90%. If GOP would have had any momentum at all, it really could have turned into a huge red wave.

Also, exchanged emails with a prominent GOP pollster in the Midwest. His polling was more optimistic for the GOP but he was nowhere near as far off as most GOP pollsters. He's been polling for 45 years, and he said this was the most difficult year in his career. I used to work campaigns, so first some brief background for those unfamiliar with polling. Polling used to be fairly straightforward. Use Random Digit Dialing until you hit your target number. I'm simplifying a bit, but very little weighting. More recently, even before the shy voter craze, pollsters had to start weighting their polls because response rates varied significantly for a host of reason. And you try to get within a certain range of responders - men/women, GOP/Dem/Indies, minorities/whites, etc. The factor in shy voters (most recently Trump and GOP) But this year, there were actually shy Dem voters given Biden's problems. There were still some shy GOP voters but far fewer, which I guess makes sense given Trump wasn't running, and the state of the Country. In addition, the near record ticket splitting threw off traditional weighting, as did Independents breaking strong and late for Dems. Ironically, pollsters may slowly gravitate back to more traditional polling.

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Just another fun fact. GOP almost set a record for biggest gains against strong pro-Biden Reps. Criteria is as follows: D incumbents in districts that were Biden +15 to Biden +30 in 2020 Pres election. Repub candidate got within single digit %. Repubs also closed gap in closer Biden + districts but fell short in 90%. If GOP would have had any momentum at all, it really could have turned into a huge red wave.

Also, exchanged emails with a prominent GOP pollster in the Midwest. His polling was more optimistic for the GOP but he was nowhere near as far off as most GOP pollsters. He's been polling for 45 years, and he said this was the most difficult year in his career. I used to work campaigns, so first some brief background for those unfamiliar with polling. Polling used to be fairly straightforward. Use Random Digit Dialing until you hit your target number. I'm simplifying a bit, but very little weighting. More recently, even before the shy voter craze, pollsters had to start weighting their polls because response rates varied significantly for a host of reason. And you try to get within a certain range of responders - men/women, GOP/Dem/Indies, minorities/whites, etc. The factor in shy voters (most recently Trump and GOP) But this year, there were actually shy Dem voters given Biden's problems. There were still some shy GOP voters but far fewer, which I guess makes sense given Trump wasn't running, and the state of the Country. In addition, the near record ticket splitting threw off traditional weighting, as did Independents breaking strong and late for Dems. Ironically, pollsters may slowly gravitate back to more traditional polling.

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Do you think Independents and undecideds broke hard against some Republicans?
Seems to be a lot of ticket splitters breaking against the R senate candidates, e.g. Kemp-Warnock, Lombardo-Masto

From WaPo

Election deniers lose races for key state offices in every 2020 battleground
The candidates could have gained power over election administration. Voters rejected them in the six most pivotal states.
Voters in the six major battlegrounds where Donald Trump tried to reverse his defeat in 2020 rejected election-denying candidates seeking to control their states' election systems this year, a resounding signal that Americans have grown weary of the former president's unfounded claims of widespread fraud.
Candidates for secretary of state in Michigan, Arizona and Nevada who had echoed Trump's false accusations lost their contests on Tuesday, with the latter race called Saturday night. A fourth candidate never made it out of his May primary in Georgia. In Pennsylvania, one of the nation's most prominent election deniers lost his bid for governor, a job that would have given him the power to appoint the secretary of state. And in Wisconsin, an election-denying contender's loss in the governor's race effectively blocked a move to put election administration under partisan control.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2022/11/13/election-deniers-defeated-state-races/

You keep posting things from liberal sources. My father taught me when I was young to never listen to the enemy. I'll wait until a reputable source prints something. WaPo & NYT - nope. No thanks.

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Just another fun fact. GOP almost set a record for biggest gains against strong pro-Biden Reps. Criteria is as follows: D incumbents in districts that were Biden +15 to Biden +30 in 2020 Pres election. Repub candidate got within single digit %. Repubs also closed gap in closer Biden + districts but fell short in 90%. If GOP would have had any momentum at all, it really could have turned into a huge red wave.

Also, exchanged emails with a prominent GOP pollster in the Midwest. His polling was more optimistic for the GOP but he was nowhere near as far off as most GOP pollsters. He's been polling for 45 years, and he said this was the most difficult year in his career. I used to work campaigns, so first some brief background for those unfamiliar with polling. Polling used to be fairly straightforward. Use Random Digit Dialing until you hit your target number. I'm simplifying a bit, but very little weighting. More recently, even before the shy voter craze, pollsters had to start weighting their polls because response rates varied significantly for a host of reason. And you try to get within a certain range of responders - men/women, GOP/Dem/Indies, minorities/whites, etc. The factor in shy voters (most recently Trump and GOP) But this year, there were actually shy Dem voters given Biden's problems. There were still some shy GOP voters but far fewer, which I guess makes sense given Trump wasn't running, and the state of the Country. In addition, the near record ticket splitting threw off traditional weighting, as did Independents breaking strong and late for Dems. Ironically, pollsters may slowly gravitate back to more traditional polling.

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Do you think Independents and undecideds broke hard against some Republicans?
Seems to be a lot of ticket splitters breaking against the R senate candidates, e.g. Kemp-Warnock, Lombardo-Masto

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Yes, in Battleground Senate races especially, Indies broke hard for Dems. But incumbent GOP Govs did well with Indies and even moved some Dem votes. In addition to your examples on ticket splitting, it also was extreme in OH and NH.

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Jack Bauer said:

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The government is so arrogant and condescending. They are not our friends and they are only here to serve us.

CANDIDATES: All legal votes will be counted, including votes for you. If you have the most votes in the final tally, you will be elected. If you do not have the most votes, you will have lost your election.

— Maricopa County (@maricopacounty) November 12, 2022

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How is this condescending? There are reports that the votes are not being counted. What should they say? They have statutory requirements that make it slow to count, they are counting what is coming in.

So, you are saying it is a plot by the local Government? After 2020 and all the eyes on the election, you really think a 60k a year employee is going to risk their job, retirement and benefits to throw an election? You have not worked around many local governments. They are more worried about their HSA than throwing an election to one party or another. .

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When 20% of your tabulators fail on election day causing long lines and confusion, you should be a little more humble

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In what regard? They are saying everything will be counted and telling that nutbag Lake that if she gets the most votes, she will win.

I am not sure what you want them to do more humbly. There is enough real stuff without getting sensitve about stuff.

Mollie Hemmingway:

Just objectively speaking, things are bad in the country, whether it's the southern border or crime or foreign policy, inflation. And that Republican leaders could not turn that into a big victory for Republicans is really an indictment for how they're running things.

I could not agree more with your opening where you talk about the importance of understanding that elections are not run anymore like they were in the 1980s. There is now extensive period of voting where people who are smart are running get out the vote operations every day, hauling in ballots every day.

Republicans keep on thinking that election day is a single day and they think if they get everybody excited for that last day that that will be sufficient. That's not sufficient. There needs to be an effective ground game that is on Republican leadership and there's only so much that everybody else can do with their enthusiasm and everything else.

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You keep posting things from liberal sources. My father taught me when I was young to never listen to the enemy. I'll wait until a reputable source prints something. WaPo & NYT - nope. No thanks.

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Highest inflation in 40 years
Worst border crisis in history
Most unpopular president since Truman (Biden approval around 40%)
75% of voters say country is going in the wrong direction
Worst crime wave since the 90s

Yet voters looked at the Trump recruited candidates and said "no". What lesson would your father teach about that?

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Already told you - dont listen to you. You dont listen either apparently.

Osodecentx said:

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Married A Horn said:

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You keep posting things from liberal sources. My father taught me when I was young to never listen to the enemy. I'll wait until a reputable source prints something. WaPo & NYT - nope. No thanks.

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Highest inflation in 40 years
Worst border crisis in history
Most unpopular president since Truman (Biden approval around 40%)
75% of voters say country is going in the wrong direction
Worst crime wave since the 90s

Yet voters looked at the Trump recruited candidates and said "no". What lesson would your father teach about that?

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Yes, according to all the exit polls and internal GOP, as many voters voted Dem because of Trump as voted GOP because of Biden, and Trump's disapproval rating was higher than Biden's. Truly unprecedented. I'm surprised as anyone. I thought Dems were stupid for campaigning on Trump given all the problems you list.

I'll listen to sources I trust. If they say the same - then great, we'll adjust. I'm saying get different sources...not a different message.

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I'll listen to sources I trust. If they say the same - then great, we'll adjust. I'm saying get different sources...not a different message.

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So, who is a trustworthy source?

Osodecentx said:

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Married A Horn said:

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You keep posting things from liberal sources. My father taught me when I was young to never listen to the enemy. I'll wait until a reputable source prints something. WaPo & NYT - nope. No thanks.

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Highest inflation in 40 years
Worst border crisis in history
Most unpopular president since Truman (Biden approval around 40%)
75% of voters say country is going in the wrong direction
Worst crime wave since the 90s

Yet voters looked at the Trump recruited candidates and said "no". What lesson would your father teach about that?

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I think both sides of the argument are pretty pathetic. The we gotta side with Trump group latched on to a guy who attacked competent and successful politicians. Those in the GOP who are blaming Trump for everything that went wrong on election day are just deflecting the blame they deserve for failing to message how the GOP was going to address the boarder, inflation, and other ills.

In sum, Trump cannot learn when to stay quite and follow Reagans Eleventh Commandment. The other side continues to fail at messaging and fail to formulate a coherent strategic message. Why is it so hard to come of with appealing bullet points to talk about? Newt called it a Contract with America. Call it what you want, but the Establishment failed to articulate any agenda.

He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Married A Horn said:

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You keep posting things from liberal sources. My father taught me when I was young to never listen to the enemy. I'll wait until a reputable source prints something. WaPo & NYT - nope. No thanks.

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Highest inflation in 40 years
Worst border crisis in history
Most unpopular president since Truman (Biden approval around 40%)
75% of voters say country is going in the wrong direction
Worst crime wave since the 90s

Yet voters looked at the Trump recruited candidates and said "no". What lesson would your father teach about that?

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I think both sides of the argument are pretty pathetic. The we gotta side with Trump group latched on to a guy who attacked competent and successful politicians. Those in the GOP who are blaming Trump for everything that went wrong on election day are just deflecting the blame they deserve for failing to message how the GOP was going to address the boarder, inflation, and other ills.

In sum, Trump cannot learn when to stay quite and follow Reagans Eleventh Commandment. The other side continues to fail at messaging and fail to formulate a coherent strategic message. Why is it so hard to come of with appealing bullet points to talk about? Newt called it a Contract with America. Call it what you want, but the Establishment failed to articulate any agenda.

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Well said. I think that the Abbott's, DeSantis's, Kemp's and Youkim have the most standing to tell the party how to message...

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I'll listen to sources I trust. If they say the same - then great, we'll adjust. I'm saying get different sources...not a different message.

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So, who is a trustworthy source?

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I'm liking some of this internal direct stuff Sombear is posting. What about you?

Married A Horn said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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I'll listen to sources I trust. If they say the same - then great, we'll adjust. I'm saying get different sources...not a different message.

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So, who is a trustworthy source?

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I'm liking some of this internal direct stuff Sombear is posting. What about you?

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I usually scan multiple sources, including foreign. But, they are more main stream. I do not trust individual information coming from those in the know (wink, wink, type stuff). I also do not use MSNBC, Breibart or Trump's stuff, too biast. Trump, I just don't believe him, I really believe he is at a point where he will say whatever gets him what he wants.

So, right now I do not know one site that I would swear by.

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Married A Horn said:

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I'll listen to sources I trust. If they say the same - then great, we'll adjust. I'm saying get different sources...not a different message.

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So, who is a trustworthy source?

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I'm liking some of this internal direct stuff Sombear is posting. What about you?

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This is from sombear. Do you trust this? If so, why?


* Record % of voters made up their mind the last few days.
* Record ticket-splitting - e.g., vote for GOP Gov but Dem Senate, hurting GOP in GA, NV, AZ, OH, NH
* Independents broke hard and late for Dems - almost never happens in midterm with unpopular Pres. Even pronounced in key races.
* GOP met turnout metrics.
* As I posted before the election, GOP Senate candidate quality was around -2.5%, meaning based on metrics, the entire slate of GOP candidates was 2.5% behind an average slate. I did not get breakdowns, but that likely means some of our worst GOP Senate candidates were easily -5% to -7%, which is historically bad.
* Weak Gov/Senate candidates hurt GOP House races in PA, MI, MD, NH. Zeldin, even though he lost, was huge for GOP House in NY.
* Trump disapproval among all voters was ~60%. Biden disapproval was ~55%. Trump also worse on "strong disapproval."
* About the same % of voters made their decision based on Biden (for or against) and Trump (for or against). This is unprecedented. Midterm has always been a verdict on a sitting Pres, with leading opposition figure barely on radar.

Osodecentx said:

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Married A Horn said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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I'll listen to sources I trust. If they say the same - then great, we'll adjust. I'm saying get different sources...not a different message.

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So, who is a trustworthy source?

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I'm liking some of this internal direct stuff Sombear is posting. What about you?

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This is from somber. Do you trust this? If so, why?


* Record % of voters made up their mind the last few days.
* Record ticket-splitting - e.g., vote for GOP Gov but Dem Senate, hurting GOP in GA, NV, AZ, OH, NH
* Independents broke hard and late for Dems - almost never happens in midterm with unpopular Pres. Even pronounced in key races.
* GOP met turnout metrics.
* As I posted before the election, GOP Senate candidate quality was around -2.5%, meaning based on metrics, the entire slate of GOP candidates was 2.5% behind an average slate. I did not get breakdowns, but that likely means some of our worst GOP Senate candidates were easily -5% to -7%, which is historically bad.
* Weak Gov/Senate candidates hurt GOP House races in PA, MI, MD, NH. Zeldin, even though he lost, was huge for GOP House in NY.
* Trump disapproval among all voters was ~60%. Biden disapproval was ~55%. Trump also worse on "strong disapproval."
* About the same % of voters made their decision based on Biden (for or against) and Trump (for or against). This is unprecedented. Midterm has always been a verdict on a sitting Pres, with leading opposition figure barely on radar.

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Usually, I am looking for consistency across sites. I tend to trust foreign media on some things, like elections. They pretty much don't care.

I usually go:

Rueters, AP, Wall Street Journal and BBC. I do listen to Fox, CNN, Bloomberg and Fox Business.

Well this isn't good for Kari Lake.

Katie Hobbs - 1,211,595 (50.5%)
Kari Lake - 1,185,584 (49.5%)
93% of votes in

97k ballots dropped in Maricopa@KariLake 54.6%@katiehobbs 45.4%

Lake net gain +8,911

— The AZ - abc15 - Data Guru (@Garrett_Archer) November 14, 2022

Maricopa County has tabulated 98,618 ballots
Est. 94,285 remain (94% complete)

Batch breakdown
Governor@KariLake 54.6@katiehobbs 45.4

Senate@bgmasters 51.7@CaptMarkKelly 46.5

AZAG@AbrahamHamadeh 55.4@krismayes 44.6

AZSOS@RealMarkFinchem 52.3@Adrian_Fontes 47.8

— The AZ - abc15 - Data Guru (@Garrett_Archer) November 14, 2022

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Congratulations to the Senate democrats

for suddenly pulling ahead

& winning surprise victories

By the perfect margins

4 days after polls close

In the dead of night

Only in states with mail in voting

For the 2nd time in a row.

We’d never seen anything like it

In 244yrs.

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) November 13, 2022

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That's right.

Attack hard-working poll workers instead of admitting that America rejected your ideas.

The basic truths of this election are:

1. Republicans rightly identified inflation as a major concern but failed to note that concern about abortion rights was nearly as high. They also failed to say what they would do about inflation. All they could do was blame Biden for it.

2. Though criticized for it, Democrats' closing arguments about protecting democracy and restoring abortion rights were powerful.

3. Trump continued to be a drag on the party, causing it to put forward awful candidates, when other candidates would have won easily. Now, Trump has cost Reps 2018. 2020, and 2022.

I advise trying a message that actually works instead of being like Trump and constantly crying you wuz robbed.

(And as for the Redheaded Ignoramus, Dems initially led in several elections they ultimately lost, including my state. It was all about when the early and mail-in votes were counted, first or last. So this person is either a liar or completely ignorant.)

A further note: It's not certain Republicans are even going to take the House. If they do win it, it's only going to be handful of seats, leaving them really weak.

C. Jordan said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Congratulations to the Senate democrats

for suddenly pulling ahead

& winning surprise victories

By the perfect margins

4 days after polls close

In the dead of night

Only in states with mail in voting

For the 2nd time in a row.

We’d never seen anything like it

In 244yrs.

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) November 13, 2022

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That's right.

Attack hard-working poll workers instead of admitting that America rejected your ideas.

The basic truths of this election are:

1. Republicans rightly identified inflation as a major concern but failed to note that concern about abortion rights was nearly as high. They also failed to say what they would do about inflation. All they could do was blame Biden for it.

2. Though criticized for it, Democrats' closing arguments about protecting democracy and restoring abortion rights were powerful.

3. Trump continued to be a drag on the party, causing it to put forward awful candidates, when other candidates would have won easily. Now, Trump has cost Reps 2018. 2020, and 2022.

I advise trying a message that actually works instead of being like Trump and constantly crying you wuz robbed.

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Which ideas has America overwhelmingly rejected ?

She grew on me, but the writing was on the wall. Another Trumper goes down.

Canada2017 said:

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C. Jordan said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Congratulations to the Senate democrats

for suddenly pulling ahead

& winning surprise victories

By the perfect margins

4 days after polls close

In the dead of night

Only in states with mail in voting

For the 2nd time in a row.

We’d never seen anything like it

In 244yrs.

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) November 13, 2022

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That's right.

Attack hard-working poll workers instead of admitting that America rejected your ideas.

The basic truths of this election are:

1. Republicans rightly identified inflation as a major concern but failed to note that concern about abortion rights was nearly as high. They also failed to say what they would do about inflation. All they could do was blame Biden for it.

2. Though criticized for it, Democrats' closing arguments about protecting democracy and restoring abortion rights were powerful.

3. Trump continued to be a drag on the party, causing it to put forward awful candidates, when other candidates would have won easily. Now, Trump has cost Reps 2018. 2020, and 2022.

I advise trying a message that actually works instead of being like Trump and constantly crying you wuz robbed.

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Which ideas has America overwhelmingly rejected ?

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Extremism

A stolen election

Outlawing abortion

Immigration cruelty

Cutting taxes as your only economic policy

Impeaching Biden

Impeaching Garland

Just to name a few.

Republicans centered on inflation and crime. But other than blame Democrats for them, they offered no solutions to them. Just outrage about them.