Osodecentx said:
Redbrickbear said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
ATL Bear said:
Osodecentx said:
How did Kari Lake perform in Maricopa County, AZ, specifically, compared with other Republicans?
Ms. Lake received 77,342 fewer votes than GOP state Treasurer Kimberly Yee.
Ms. Lake received 39,165 fewer votes than the combined GOP U.S. House candidates.
Ms. Lake received 23,901 fewer votes than GOP county prosecutor Rachel Mitchell.
These figures are especially striking because voter interest wanes down the ballot. Compared with the Governor's race, 78,000 fewer people voted for local prosecutor. Yet Ms. Mitchell still won more raw ballots than Ms. Lake.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/kari-lake-is-the-new-stacey-abrams-arizona-gubernatorial-election-11669849107
This is the break that the Trumpists conveniently ignore. It's all over the place.
and how much of that undervote was McCain faction crossover? people just leaving the race blank.
AZ, like GA, has a serious problem with state GOP infighting. Liz Cheney spent $500k in AZ against Lake, and actually went out on the campaign trail with some Democrat House members in close races.
She also campaigned in AZ against Lake. Note the banner behind her. Even heard her criticizing Ted Cruz for helping the GOP ticket in AZ.
https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2022/10/05/cheney-mccain-institute-campaign-event-at-asu-raises-legality-questions/
That's flagrant party establishment working to defeat party candidates in general elections solely for the purpose of restoring themselves to power in the party.
It is fundamentally unserious to assert that party in-fighting has no effect on mid-term elections. Cheney (to whom some here have donated funds that were spent in AZ and elsewhere to defeat Republicans) literally worked to defeat Trump endorsed candidates, then (ike several here) turned around after the mid-terms and blamed Trump for the losses. That is intellectual dishonest of the highest order.
Greatness. Liz kicked Trump's ass. She also spent more money in AZ than Trump.
Sounds like some here contributed to a winner
Liz literally got throw out of office by her constituents....she didn't kick Trumps ass....he is not even in office.
Now she may or may not have contributed to Mrs. Lakes loss in Arizona....but of course Mrs. Lake is not Trump so there was no reason for her to work against the chosen Republican candidate for office except that Liz hates any populist conservative candidate and wants the party to return and be the sole owned property of the Bush-Cheney corporatist wing.
Whiterock blames Liz for the defeat of Trump candidates. If you disagree, take it up with white rock
Let's see how your nonsense stands up against numbers.
There are 1.4m registered Republicans in AZ.
if only 2% are neverTrumpers/McCainiacs who don't even cross over but just undervote, that's 28k votes.
Lake lost by 17k votes.
The McCainiacs and neverTrumpers most definitely exceed 2% of the AZ GOP.
So yes, you share direct responsibility for Lake's defeat.
If we apply that same analysis to the AZ Senate race:
Masters lost by 125k votes.
If 10% of the AZ GOP are McCaniacs/neverTrumpers, that's 140k votes.
10% is probably a minimum share in AZ of McCaniacs and neverTrumpers.
It should not be surprising that party insurgencies matter in a close race.
You own it, buddy.
Be proud.
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(I used AZ because the data is harder. In GA voter registration is non-partisan. As a rule, the closer the registration totals are, the more amplified the effect of in-fighting within a party. Very small insurgents can easily be the difference in very close races. Polling suggests that Dems/GOP are roughly equal in "party affiliation" so GA. And, of course, runoff elections are pure turnout exercises. People have already voted. It's only a question of will they vote twice. Partisans are much more likely to turnout than independents in such a scenario. So when you see Warnock increase his total in the runoff, it means that his turnout machine was better, as the "independent effect" is much reduced in a runoff. GA GOP has SERIOUS problems on multiple levels. And a GOP governor who is either not working the problem, or not being effective at it. But GOP neverTrumpers easily were the difference in GA. It's just a lot harder to quantify.)