OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD, 11-8-22

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According to Fox, Boebert is currently up 794 with 97.63% reporting.
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Gabs got a point. All the delicious food white people make is clearly having a negative effect on her
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BearFan33 said:

LateSteak69 said:

Jack Bauer said:

AZ and NV can't count their votes and the MSM is FIXATED, INFATUATED with Lauren Bobert losing her seat.
No bias here.

Lauren Boebert Defeat Could Cost Republicans the House
i am too, solely because she is a heinous butt plug that needs to go "hang" out with her husband.
She is not going to date you.
well that's a relief.
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VaeBear said:

According to Fox, Boebert is currently up 794 with 97.63% reporting.
she crossed into the lead last night.. dont know if it will hold
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I think she is up by 800 with 97% in
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whiterock said:

ATL Bear said:

whiterock said:

JXL said:

whiterock said:

EX: Exit polling is clear that Threat To Democracy and Abortion were huge issues with thoe who voted.

Are those key issues with voters at large? Was all the polling about inflation and economy wrong?

no.

Remember what I said many times: a pollster has to poll the people who actually vote.

A majority of voters think inflation and the economy ARE the big issues.
but those voters didn't show up and vote.

A smaller number of voters think abortion and threats to democracy are the big issues.
but those voters are who showed up and voted.


Every election is a base election.
If you do not turn out your own base, the independents don't matter a damned bit.


You can't win elections with just your base. Nominating Trump might fire up his base of support, but he would be unlikely to pull enough support from outside of his base to win.
The results from last night directly refute that conclusion.

SOME elections are choice elections, where wooing independents is the key.
SOME elections are base elections, where there isn't much middle ground and victory lies in turning out your base.

As long as we remain an evenly divided electorate, building a strategy of chasing 3% of the voting public least likely to vote is the road to oblivion. If you cannot fire up your own base to come boiling out to vote, you are not going to inspire independents to come boiling out to vote either.

Democrats campaigned solely within their base. They spoke primarily to the J6 faithful and the abortion on demand faithful....and they got a bigger turnout of their base than Republicans did.



You couldn't be more wrong. The Kemp/Walker break is a classic showing of how independents will actually vote multi party, and can be wooed to candidates. It also shows that even semi-partisans will split tickets. Look at the ratio breaks in districts of Republican pick ups in the House. Run better candidates. Don't drag them down with political baggage like Trump.

Moderate Republicans are fickle, too. Oso and Sam will throw their vote away 3rd party on principle then blame others when it lets Dems win. But if we attend to their concerns, we lose more votes in our own base than we gain in the middle. That's a dynamic proven over and over again. Oz is an example - the kind of moderate that's supposed to win purple states. Only he didn't. You win purple states like Perry and DeSantis did - by defeating liberal ideas and turning the date RED.

And before we cite "Trump baggage" as responsible for last night, it must be noted that the single best outcome of the night came from a candidate plucked from obscurity by a Trump endorsement, a candidate who by any measure was the most Trump-esque of them all. He's not the "anti-Trump" that your argument implicitly presumes. He's Trump 2.0, an apparently more formidable variant of the original strain.

And while we're on GA, they have almost as bad a "arrogant moderate" dynamic as AZ. It's not like Perdue or Loeffler were great big throbbing MAGA-maniacs. Quite a bit of spin going on to blame deficiencies in the GA GOP on Trump. I spent a number of hours around a campfire with a GA businessman donor in aftermath off the 2020 GA Senate debacle. Wonderful thoughtful fellow who like many of the type think the secret to success is stifling the GOP base. That is not what DeDantis did. Quite the opposite - poking Disney in the eye, reliving woke prosecutors of their duties, etc…..

The argument for Desantis is that he's simply better at Trumpism than Trump.

It's a hard argument to refute.
Prior to the election, you made the case for a red wave.
Here are some of your points:
Highest inflation in 40 years
Worst border crisis in history
Most unpopular president since Truman (Biden approval around 40%)
75% of voters say country is going in the wrong direction
Worst crime wave since the 90s

Yet voters looked at the Trump recruited candidates and said "no". Why?
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

ATL Bear said:

whiterock said:

JXL said:

whiterock said:

EX: Exit polling is clear that Threat To Democracy and Abortion were huge issues with thoe who voted.

Are those key issues with voters at large? Was all the polling about inflation and economy wrong?

no.

Remember what I said many times: a pollster has to poll the people who actually vote.

A majority of voters think inflation and the economy ARE the big issues.
but those voters didn't show up and vote.

A smaller number of voters think abortion and threats to democracy are the big issues.
but those voters are who showed up and voted.


Every election is a base election.
If you do not turn out your own base, the independents don't matter a damned bit.


You can't win elections with just your base. Nominating Trump might fire up his base of support, but he would be unlikely to pull enough support from outside of his base to win.
The results from last night directly refute that conclusion.

SOME elections are choice elections, where wooing independents is the key.
SOME elections are base elections, where there isn't much middle ground and victory lies in turning out your base.

As long as we remain an evenly divided electorate, building a strategy of chasing 3% of the voting public least likely to vote is the road to oblivion. If you cannot fire up your own base to come boiling out to vote, you are not going to inspire independents to come boiling out to vote either.

Democrats campaigned solely within their base. They spoke primarily to the J6 faithful and the abortion on demand faithful....and they got a bigger turnout of their base than Republicans did.



You couldn't be more wrong. The Kemp/Walker break is a classic showing of how independents will actually vote multi party, and can be wooed to candidates. It also shows that even semi-partisans will split tickets. Look at the ratio breaks in districts of Republican pick ups in the House. Run better candidates. Don't drag them down with political baggage like Trump.

Moderate Republicans are fickle, too. Oso and Sam will throw their vote away 3rd party on principle then blame others when it lets Dems win. But if we attend to their concerns, we lose more votes in our own base than we gain in the middle. That's a dynamic proven over and over again. Oz is an example - the kind of moderate that's supposed to win purple states. Only he didn't. You win purple states like Perry and DeSantis did - by defeating liberal ideas and turning the date RED.

And before we cite "Trump baggage" as responsible for last night, it must be noted that the single best outcome of the night came from a candidate plucked from obscurity by a Trump endorsement, a candidate who by any measure was the most Trump-esque of them all. He's not the "anti-Trump" that your argument implicitly presumes. He's Trump 2.0, an apparently more formidable variant of the original strain.

And while we're on GA, they have almost as bad a "arrogant moderate" dynamic as AZ. It's not like Perdue or Loeffler were great big throbbing MAGA-maniacs. Quite a bit of spin going on to blame deficiencies in the GA GOP on Trump. I spent a number of hours around a campfire with a GA businessman donor in aftermath off the 2020 GA Senate debacle. Wonderful thoughtful fellow who like many of the type think the secret to success is stifling the GOP base. That is not what DeDantis did. Quite the opposite - poking Disney in the eye, reliving woke prosecutors of their duties, etc…..

The argument for Desantis is that he's simply better at Trumpism than Trump.

It's a hard argument to refute.
Prior to the election, you made the case for a red wave.
Here are some of your points:
Highest inflation in 40 years
Worst border crisis in history
Most unpopular president since Truman (Biden approval around 40%)
75% of voters say country is going in the wrong direction
Worst crime wave since the 90s

Yet voters looked at the Trump recruited candidates and said "no". Why?
yup. A big FU to Trump. Haul ass Trumpy Dumpty!
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pistol packin' mama takes the lead!

- tbp*

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This editorial is longer than I cut and paste, but the link is below. The point is made.
Trump Is the Republican Party's Biggest Loser
He has now flopped in 2018, 2020, 2021 and 2022.
What will Democrats do when Donald Trump isn't around to lose elections? We have to wonder because on Tuesday Democrats succeeded again in making the former President a central campaign issue, and Mr. Trump helped them do it.

Trumpy Republican candidates failed at the ballot box in states that were clearly winnable. This can't be what Mr. Trump was envisioning ahead of his "very big announcement" next week. Yet maybe the defeats are what the party needs to hear before 2024.
Looking at the Senate map, the message could not be clearer. In New Hampshire, the Trump-endorsed Republican Don Bolduc lost to Sen. Maggie Hassan, 53% to 45%, as of the latest data. At the same time voters re-elected Republican Gov. Chris Sununu by 16 points.
"Don Bolduc was a very nice guy, but he lost tonight when he disavowed, after his big primary win, his longstanding stance on Election Fraud," Mr. Trump said. "Had he stayed strong and true, he would have won, easily." We doubt New Hampshire voters simply wanted Mr. Bolduc to stay kooky.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-is-the-gops-biggest-loser-midterm-elections-senate-house-congress-republicans-11668034869?mod=opinion_lead_pos2

(edit to add the closing argument)
Since his unlikely victory in 2016 against the widely disliked Hillary Clinton, Mr. Trump has a perfect record of electoral defeat. The GOP was pounded in the 2018 midterms owing to his low approval rating. Mr. Trump himself lost in 2020. He then sabotaged Georgia's 2021 runoffs by blaming party leaders for not somehow overturning his defeat. That gave Democrats control of the Senate, letting President Biden pump up inflation with a $1.9 trillion Covid bill, appoint a liberal Supreme Court Justice, and pass a $700 billion climate spending hash.
Now Mr. Trump has botched the 2022 elections, and it could hand Democrats the Senate for two more years. Mr. Trump had policy successes as President, including tax cuts and deregulation, but he has led Republicans into one political fiasco after another.
"We're going to win so much," Mr. Trump once said, "that you're going to get sick and tired of winning." Maybe by now Republicans are sick and tired of losing.
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AZ is still pushing off ED vote counts in Maricopa. Counting mail ins and Earlys, gonna be another Hobbs/Kelly favorable drop most likely
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He Hate Me said:

Jack Bauer said:

Feminism power! Yay!!




America is a nation under God's judgment. The sooner we realize that and repent from our sins, then the sooner we can partake of his grace again.
This shows a horrendous lack of humanity. For a child born alive, even if an abortion was the intent,
the medical personal should do everything in their power to sustain her life. They are a living being.
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

ATL Bear said:

whiterock said:

JXL said:

whiterock said:

EX: Exit polling is clear that Threat To Democracy and Abortion were huge issues with thoe who voted.

Are those key issues with voters at large? Was all the polling about inflation and economy wrong?

no.

Remember what I said many times: a pollster has to poll the people who actually vote.

A majority of voters think inflation and the economy ARE the big issues.
but those voters didn't show up and vote.

A smaller number of voters think abortion and threats to democracy are the big issues.
but those voters are who showed up and voted.


Every election is a base election.
If you do not turn out your own base, the independents don't matter a damned bit.


You can't win elections with just your base. Nominating Trump might fire up his base of support, but he would be unlikely to pull enough support from outside of his base to win.
The results from last night directly refute that conclusion.

SOME elections are choice elections, where wooing independents is the key.
SOME elections are base elections, where there isn't much middle ground and victory lies in turning out your base.

As long as we remain an evenly divided electorate, building a strategy of chasing 3% of the voting public least likely to vote is the road to oblivion. If you cannot fire up your own base to come boiling out to vote, you are not going to inspire independents to come boiling out to vote either.

Democrats campaigned solely within their base. They spoke primarily to the J6 faithful and the abortion on demand faithful....and they got a bigger turnout of their base than Republicans did.



You couldn't be more wrong. The Kemp/Walker break is a classic showing of how independents will actually vote multi party, and can be wooed to candidates. It also shows that even semi-partisans will split tickets. Look at the ratio breaks in districts of Republican pick ups in the House. Run better candidates. Don't drag them down with political baggage like Trump.

Moderate Republicans are fickle, too. Oso and Sam will throw their vote away 3rd party on principle then blame others when it lets Dems win. But if we attend to their concerns, we lose more votes in our own base than we gain in the middle. That's a dynamic proven over and over again. Oz is an example - the kind of moderate that's supposed to win purple states. Only he didn't. You win purple states like Perry and DeSantis did - by defeating liberal ideas and turning the date RED.

And before we cite "Trump baggage" as responsible for last night, it must be noted that the single best outcome of the night came from a candidate plucked from obscurity by a Trump endorsement, a candidate who by any measure was the most Trump-esque of them all. He's not the "anti-Trump" that your argument implicitly presumes. He's Trump 2.0, an apparently more formidable variant of the original strain.

And while we're on GA, they have almost as bad a "arrogant moderate" dynamic as AZ. It's not like Perdue or Loeffler were great big throbbing MAGA-maniacs. Quite a bit of spin going on to blame deficiencies in the GA GOP on Trump. I spent a number of hours around a campfire with a GA businessman donor in aftermath off the 2020 GA Senate debacle. Wonderful thoughtful fellow who like many of the type think the secret to success is stifling the GOP base. That is not what DeDantis did. Quite the opposite - poking Disney in the eye, reliving woke prosecutors of their duties, etc…..

The argument for Desantis is that he's simply better at Trumpism than Trump.

It's a hard argument to refute.
Prior to the election, you made the case for a red wave.
Here are some of your points:
Highest inflation in 40 years
Worst border crisis in history
Most unpopular president since Truman (Biden approval around 40%)
75% of voters say country is going in the wrong direction
Worst crime wave since the 90s

Yet voters looked at the Trump recruited candidates and said "no". Why?
And exits showed 65-70% unfavorable on Trump. Repubs actually turned out more than Dems. Independents killed us, breaking strongly for Dem incumbents which us highly unusual.
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57Bear said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:


Quote:

Trump burns with hatred for DeSantis

Trump despises DeSantis and had spent the last weekend doing what no Republican leader should ever do, disparage one of the party's most important candidates three days before an election.

Trump went further than that. He threatened DeSantis. He told the Wall Street Journal that if DeSantis challenges him for the 2024 GOP nomination for president he will divulge disturbing secrets about him.
"If he did run, I will tell you things about him that won't be very flattering. I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife, who is really running his campaign."

While Trump runs his mouth and extortion ring, he has bigger problems. The Trump brand fell on its face on Tuesday. More than any Republican leader, Trump had salted this election with a lineup of MAGA candidates who proved too radical for general-election voters.


One thing Trump can't do for sure in disparage DeSantis wifes looks, like he likes to do to women he doesn't deem acceptable. She is extremely pretty.

And Trumps selected candidates mainly were failures. Time for him to go.
Have you told him yet?

I told him in 2016, when I voted against him in the primaries.

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

He Hate Me said:

Jack Bauer said:

Feminism power! Yay!!




America is a nation under God's judgment. The sooner we realize that and repent from our sins, then the sooner we can partake of his grace again.
This shows a horrendous lack of humanity. For a child born alive, even if an abortion was the intent,
the medical personal should do everything in their power to sustain her life. They are a living being.
From Michigan...Proposal 3 allows the state to regulate abortion after fetal viability, which is defined in the measure as a point in the pregnancy where there is a "significant likelihood of the fetus's sustained survival outside of the uterus without the application of extraordinary medical measures".[url=https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Proposal_3,_Right_to_Reproductive_Freedom_Initiative_(2022)#cite_note-ppvscasey-8][8][/url] Previously, in 1973, Roe v Wade determined that a fetus is viable at 28 weeks.[url=https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Proposal_3,_Right_to_Reproductive_Freedom_Initiative_(2022)#cite_note-roevwade-9][9][/url][url=https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Proposal_3,_Right_to_Reproductive_Freedom_Initiative_(2022)#cite_note-code333-10][10][/url]
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I don't understand what onesies,twosies even means in this context. Maybe any context.
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And the left will accuse Kari Lake of denying election results that aren't anywhere near being completed.

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How is it so many congressional races are still 'undecided' ?
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Canada2017 said:

How is it so many congressional races are still 'undecided' ?
there were like 37 house and 4 senate yeasterday.. a few heve setteled today but still quite a few not called
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Latest Trump post

Now that midterms are over, and a success…

NewsCorp, which is Fox, the Wall Street Journal, and the no longer great New York Post (bring back Col!), is all in for Governor Ron DeSanctimonious, an average REPUBLICAN Governor with great Public Relations, who didn't have to close up his State, but did, unlike other Republican Governors, whose overall numbers for a Republican, were just averagemiddle of the packincluding COVID, and who has the advantage of SUNSHINE, where people…
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Osodecentx said:

Latest Trump post

Now that midterms are over, and a success…

NewsCorp, which is Fox, the Wall Street Journal, and the no longer great New York Post (bring back Col!), is all in for Governor Ron DeSanctimonious, an average REPUBLICAN Governor with great Public Relations, who didn't have to close up his State, but did, unlike other Republican Governors, whose overall numbers for a Republican, were just averagemiddle of the packincluding COVID, and who has the advantage of SUNSHINE, where people…


This is not Presidental
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Osodecentx said:

Latest Trump post

Now that midterms are over, and a success…

NewsCorp, which is Fox, the Wall Street Journal, and the no longer great New York Post (bring back Col!), is all in for Governor Ron DeSanctimonious, an average REPUBLICAN Governor with great Public Relations, who didn't have to close up his State, but did, unlike other Republican Governors, whose overall numbers for a Republican, were just averagemiddle of the packincluding COVID, and who has the advantage of SUNSHINE, where people…
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4th and Inches said:

Osodecentx said:

Latest Trump post

Now that midterms are over, and a success…

NewsCorp, which is Fox, the Wall Street Journal, and the no longer great New York Post (bring back Col!), is all in for Governor Ron DeSanctimonious, an average REPUBLICAN Governor with great Public Relations, who didn't have to close up his State, but did, unlike other Republican Governors, whose overall numbers for a Republican, were just averagemiddle of the packincluding COVID, and who has the advantage of SUNSHINE, where people…
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Osodecentx said:

4th and Inches said:

Osodecentx said:

Latest Trump post

Now that midterms are over, and a success…

NewsCorp, which is Fox, the Wall Street Journal, and the no longer great New York Post (bring back Col!), is all in for Governor Ron DeSanctimonious, an average REPUBLICAN Governor with great Public Relations, who didn't have to close up his State, but did, unlike other Republican Governors, whose overall numbers for a Republican, were just averagemiddle of the packincluding COVID, and who has the advantage of SUNSHINE, where people…
Trumps a member of Sicem 365?
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

Every stupid self-serving Trump tweet simply pushes a few more people over to Desantis.

Sununu and Haley can [if they are smart team players] kill a Trump candidacy early. Let him lose 7-8 of the first 10 primaries and he is done.
Best way they can do that is to stay out of the race. The more candidates that enter, the harder it will be to defeat Trump. All it will do is divide up the non-Trump vote as the primaries turn winner-take-all. His core base will stand strong.

He's been in the mid-50's all year. I'd be guesstimating on what is his hard floor, but if it's 40% or better he's invulnerable in anything larger than a three horse race. and I don't think it would be much less than 40%.

The folks here who want to move on from Trump are not being unrealistic in their desire, only about how hard it could be to beat him. And they're being even less realistic about how hard it will be to find another candidate capable of inspiring firing up conservative voters to the point of spontaneous boat parades.

Desantis has some stuff going for him, for sure. But the crowd here is letting their hopes get way out over the tips of their analysis
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Jack Bauer said:

And the left will accuse Kari Lake of denying election results that aren't anywhere near being completed.




Remind me which party controls Maricopa county?
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Booray said:

Jack Bauer said:

And the left will accuse Kari Lake of denying election results that aren't anywhere near being completed.




Remind me which party controls Maricopa county?
McCains GOP
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AZ vote dump coming tonight after 9 central time. They didn't say how soon after 9, lol. But don't expect too much more than the 65k they counted Wednesday.
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4th and Inches said:

Booray said:

Jack Bauer said:

And the left will accuse Kari Lake of denying election results that aren't anywhere near being completed.




Remind me which party controls Maricopa county?
McCains GOP


The world is awash in infidels.
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TEXAS

2022 General Election - Preliminary Analysis

I hope everyone got some rest since Election Night. I spent the evening watching election results from my office at home. In years past, I would go to election night watching parties and stay up until all hours of the morning waiting on results. Not this year for a variety of reasons:
  • I have come to accept that I can go to sleep on election night and the results will still be there in the morning (shocking, I know).
  • When I watch results with other people, they want to focus on other things than what I want to focus on.
  • To quote Sergeant Murtaugh from Lethal Weapon, "I'm too old for this…"
  • Most importantly, I got to watch Bluey while I clicked refresh on my phone and computer. (For those who don't know what Bluey is, it's an Australian cartoon about a dog family. It's a cute show, but man, does it ever make you feel like you're never going to win "Parent of the Year." Bandit and Chili have that title locked up for ages.)

As a reminder, this is the first of two emails I will send out regarding the election. This one includes my initial thoughts and some early takeaways. The second report will go out in the next week or two once I get my hands on the list of everyone who voted on Election Day.

One last note before I get started. I'm not going to discuss who won / lost or what gains were made by whom (outside of those needed to discuss the state as a whole). There will be plenty of other groups and organizations who will discuss that and take credit for that.

Now, on to my observations from the election.


What I Got Wrong (Total Turnout)

This seems like a good place to start. On Monday night, I said turnout would be 7.7 million, with 2.2 million people voting on Election Day. While the final total may change slightly, 8.1 million people actually voted (with 2.6 million of those votes coming on Election Day). So, I was off by about 5%. You know what they say, horseshoes and hand grenades.

8.1 million people voting comes out to a turnout rate of 45.6%. Again, for comparison:

In 2018, turnout was 8,371,655 (53.0%).
In 2014, 4,727,208 (33.7%).
In 2010, 4,979,870 (38.0%).
And in 2006, 4,399,068 (33.6%).

Turnout this year was slightly above the average of 2014 and 2018. The average of those two elections is 43.3%. We'll have to wait until 2026, but it appears that turnout in 2018 was an outlier and the norm for Texas in midterms is in the 30-45% range.

What else did I get wrong?

While I did not publish it, I thought Governor Abbott would receive around 51% from early/mail voters (he received 54%). Those who know me will tell you that I'm a "doom and gloom" guy when it comes to election results. Before polls closed on Election Day, I kept running calculations based on worst case scenarios. For example, I was calculating that only 85% of Republican Primary voters would end up voting for Republican candidates, even though I know from extensive polling on the subject that around 95% will end up voting for the Republican candidate. While I'm a numbers guy, occasionally I have a hard time believing the numbers and instead, I let external factors impact my judgment...just like when I let friends talk me into putting money on rolling a hard eight when I know the odds are terrible (10:1). I must remember that math and numbers are our friends.


What I got right

In my email on Tuesday, I said I expected that the results from early voting would likely favor Republicans but that Election Day totals would be even better for Republicans.

Governor Abbott received 54% of the votes cast during early voting (this includes ballot by mail). Abbott's Election Day percentage was 57%. He ended up with 55% when all votes are combined.

Again, I will have more information on this once I have the lists of everyone who voted on Election Day, but it does seem that a lot of Republican Primary voters did decide to wait until Tuesday to vote, along with a significant number Republican-leaning non-primary voters. This Republican surge on Election Day helped several candidates win their races. I was part of one race where the candidate was down after the early vote was tallied and he needed 54% of the vote from Election Day voters. He ended up getting that and more.

The map below shows the difference between how Governor Abbott performed on Election Day versus how he performed during early voting. For example, in Bastrop County (East of Austin), Abbott received 53.9% during early voting but got 64.2% on Election Day, a difference of 10.3%. He ended up receiving 57.2% overall in the county.




Historical Statewide Trends

While Judge Jesse McClure was the highest performing Republican statewide candidate (57.3%) on the ballot this year, the average of all Republican statewide candidates (non-judicial and judicial) ended up being 55.9%. How does that compare to previous cycles?
  • 2020 - 53.8%
  • 2018 - 52.8%
  • 2016 - 54.3%
  • 2014 - 60.9%
  • 2012 - 55.8%
  • 2010 - 60.4%

The average of the averages (it sounds weird, but stick with me for a second) from 2010, 2012, 2014, and 2022 is 58.3%. The average of the averages from 2016, 2018, and 2020 is 53.6%.

I will let everyone come to their own conclusions on why the numbers for 2016-2020 differ from the others. I have my thoughts on the subject.


Urban vs. Suburban vs. Rural

As I had discussed previously, turnout needed to be higher in rural areas in order for Republican statewide candidates to do well. A few people questioned why a candidate would spend so much time in rural counties when there are fewer voters than in the cities/suburbs. Rural Texans are the king makers.

Turnout in rural Texas counties was higher than in the urban and suburban counties. In the 229 smallest counties in the state, turnout was 47.0% (2,057,653 votes cast out of 4,380,134 registered voters). Meanwhile, turnout in the five largest counties was 44.8% (3,302,669 votes cast out of 7,366,698 registered voters). In the next 20 largest counties, turnout was 45.8% (2,711,866 votes cast out of 5,925,311 registered voters).

Governor Abbott won rural Texas with 77% of the vote. When I said, rural Texans are king makers, I must note that they got an assist from the suburban counties (the next 20 largest counties behind Harris, Dallas, Bexar, Travis, and Tarrant). Abbott received 55% of the vote from these counties. In 2020, Trump lost these counties with only 49.2% of the vote and in 2018, Cruz lost them with 47.5%.

In the five largest counties, most of which are solidly blue, Abbott received 41%. It is worth noting that Abbott won Tarrant County (Fort Worth) with 51.4% of the vote. That's a county both Trump and Cruz lost.

36% of all votes cast for Abbott came from the 229 smallest counties, his largest share. Meanwhile, 41% of all votes cast for O'Rourke came from the five largest counties.



How did Beto O'Rourke do compared to 2018?

Out of the 254 counties in Texas, O'Rourke got a higher percentage of the vote in 2022 than he did in 2018 in only one county: Kaufman County (SE of Dallas). In 2018, he received 31.3% of the vote while in 2022, he received 32.7%.

In Starr County (a border county), in 2018, O'Rourke received 76.6% of the vote. However, in 2022, he only received 57.9%. That was a shift of 18.8%.

O'Rourke's decrease from his 2018 percentages was the worst in many counties in South and West Texas with some in the Panhandle as well. I will discuss South Texas in a bit more detail in the next section.




South Texas

An entire discussion could be had about what counties belong to what regions of the state. Instead of trying to find the perfect solution, I adopted the regions in the maps below. While I don't necessarily agree with some of their decisions (Ex: I wouldn't consider Comal County as being in South Texas) but it's the best I found right now and I'm too tired to look for another one. Finding a better regional map can be an odd-numbered year project. I will probably switch over to the DSHS regional map soon.

I got distracted talking about various regional maps when I really want to discuss South Texas.

Republicans spent a significant amount of time trying to improve their performance in South Texas. While the region didn't shift to being completely red, significant gains were made this year. The first map shows a breakdown by region of how Cruz performed in 2018 and the second map shows how Abbott performed this year.



Abbott received a higher percentage in the area than Cruz did in 2018. Increases in South Texas, while still below 50% in many parts, can offset the Republican loss in votes in the major metropolitan areas.

Eight counties saw double digit percentage increases for Republicans compared to 2018: Starr, Zapata, Kenedy, Jim Hogg, Maverick, Zavala, Duval, and Brooks. (Jim Hogg, Mia McCord. Did you ever think you'd see the day?)

Following the 2020 General Election, some pundits were making the claim that the improvements for Republicans in South Texas were because of President Trump and could not be replicated in future elections. This week's results prove that theory wrong. While still not over the 50% threshold in many South Texas counties, Republicans appear to be competing in the area and have no plans of letting up anytime soon.

Democrats, ignore this trend at your own peril.


Election history versus modeling

Again, I can currently only compare election results to vote data for those who voted early or by mail. Abbott received 54% of the early vote and O'Rourke received 45%. That was a difference of 9%. How does that compare to what I was reporting?

When you look at the early voting data reports I published, Republican Primary voters had an 11% advantage over Democratic Primary voters. Naturally, when there are a large portion of voters with no primary history, there is a lot of unknown in how those individuals will vote and what impact they will have on the election. However, looking at the raw numbers of primary voters seems to be a good indicator of how the final election results will look. Honestly, I can't ever recall seeing a race where a Republican ended up winning when they did not have an advantage in the primary vote category. I will actually need to go back and do a little bit more research to see if that has always been the case.

While my numbers seemed a bit more aligned with what actually happened, TargetSmart, the Democratic data firm, had a breakdown of 43% Republican voters and 41% Democratic voters for early voters. Their numbers were way off.

I have been asked by several people why I think their modeling was so wrong for Texas. I will try to give my best guess as to what happened with their modeling. TargetSmart is a national firm and it's possible when they are modeling voters, they use the same formula for the entire country. Doing it this way wouldn't take into consideration any potential differences in opinions in different regions of the country. Secondly, they may have modeled voters at a time when Democrats were performing better. For example, if the firm had modeled voters based on survey data conducted in June (immediately following the Dobbs opinion), the modeling data might skew to the left.

If you're a campaign or PAC, buy local. Or if you're in the business of making predictions / writing about elections, always go with the law of averages.


Last Notes

I will have a more thorough final report in the next few weeks. I have a million things I want to say but I promised I would get something out today. Stay tuned for a better report.
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WacoKelly83 said:

AZ vote dump coming tonight after 9 central time. They didn't say how soon after 9, lol. But don't expect too much more than the 65k they counted Wednesday.
expecting more than wednesday but it is all still Early votes from what I am hearing.
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We live in a Banana Republic that citizens cannot expect its government to count votes within 4 hours of the ballots. If you wonder why people don't trust the process is because the process is not trustworthy.
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