Ukraine invaded by Putin

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Redbrickbear
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Oh no!
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Canada2017
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Meanwhile .....

There is a huge Russian armored column, described as 40 miles long, approaching the battlefield.

No doubt covered by at least 3 layers of air cover.





Hope these sanctions remain ......regardless what happens in Ukraine.

Or NATO will be put to the ultimate test....when Putin's surrogates invade the Baltic States .
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jupiter said:


Only 'selected' Russian banks have been affected........not all.
FLBear5630
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Redbrickbear said:






Point?
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J.B.Katz said:

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Jacques Strap said:


I thought we wanted a strong Europe able and willing to lead on issues that impact them the most? I also imagine that European leaders are comforted in knowing we have their back. Its sad that we live to criticize our own, no matter what.

Biden's response to this has not been perfect but it has been good to this point. Russia is the loser so far. What more do you want?
Yep. Biden's response has been fine - not perfect, but perfectly reasonable, measured, and effective without upping escalation too rapidly, and making sure that the US is not speaking for all of NATO (as has often felt the case before) but instead allowing each NATO nation to independently announce their own sanctions. For the love of god I wish Americans could just work together (thank god congress mostly is), rather than use such a tragic and potentially dangerous moment in history as just one more tool for division. This bull**** is why I affiliate with neither party.
Biden deserves praise on two fronts. First, he has demonstrated why we need alliances. Trump trashed all of our alliances, including the Trans-Pacific Partnership that would have set trade rules that hemmed in China's aggressive practices. Biden recognized their essential value.

Second, he has pulled our allies together in a very short time. Only someone with long experience in foreign policy -- someone who is well known by foreign leaders -- could have pulled that off.


When would you say is the last time you had a rational thought?
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
boognish_bear
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Fascinating thread. War has changed so much in 30 years.

STxBear81
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No offense to any of you who like Biden. But he has done nothing. But say one thing and do the other. He is a cancer to our country. All of them have no idea what they are doing. Terrible politicians and worse actors
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BornAgain said:

No offense to any of you who like Biden. But he has done nothing. But say one thing and do the other. He is a cancer to our country. All of them have no idea what they are doing. Terrible politicians and worse actors

Biden has led from behind. As noted, his biggest mistake was putting all his cards on the table about doing nothing militarily. We have known about this since November, yet Biden continues to act as if he is surprised by what is occurring and scrambling to respond.
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boognish_bear said:

Fascinating thread. War has changed so much in 30 years.


Kind of like liberals and leftists that come in here pretending to be lifelong Republicans or conservatives then try to convince other Republicans and conservatives that conservative or Republican values aren't what America wants.
Jacques Strap
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Harrison Bergeron said:

BornAgain said:

No offense to any of you who like Biden. But he has done nothing. But say one thing and do the other. He is a cancer to our country. All of them have no idea what they are doing. Terrible politicians and worse actors

Biden has led from behind. As noted, his biggest mistake was putting all his cards on the table about doing nothing militarily. We have known about this since November, yet Biden continues to act as if he is surprised by what is occurring and scrambling to respond.
Germany changed their energy policy on Sunday as a result of the war. Biden refuses to reverse his energy policies.
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RMF5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:






Point?
No point.

Just maps showing timelines of other invasions of similar size countries.

Thought people might find them interesting.
Redbrickbear
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Rawhide said:

boognish_bear said:

Fascinating thread. War has changed so much in 30 years.


Kind of like liberals and leftists that come in here pretending to be lifelong Republicans or conservatives then try to convince other Republicans and conservatives that conservative or Republican values aren't what America wants.
Yea,

The best is the columnist/or internet blogger who writes "As a life long southerner and evangelical Christian" before launching into a long rant about how evil and terrible southerners & evangelicals Christians are.

Later turns out its some girl born in NYC who went to high school in Nashville...and is a C&E mainline church member.
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Thanks to Biden's war on energy, Americans are paying more and Putin wins

Just last week, his administration put new restrictions on building liquefied-natural-gas terminals in the United States, which are needed to liquefy our abundant (and clean) natural gas and place it in tankers to be shipped to Europe and the rest of the world. The cancellation of oil and gas pipelines, such as the Keystone XL, and gas-drilling permits in Alaska, Texas and other oil-rich states have also lowered our domestic production.

Biden says he is "doing everything he can" to bring down gas prices. Wrong. When the supply of a product falls, its price rises. When Trump left office, the price of oil was at roughly $2.59 a gallon nationally. Now it is $3.49 and headed to more than $4 a gallon (and $5 a gallon in California and New York) at the gas pump.

Every barrel we don't produce in Texas and Alaska puts money into the coffers of Russian President Vladimir Putin, helping finance his war machine. Putin loves high oil and gas prices. Chinese President Xi Jinping is also benefiting from Biden's war on American energy, with his country building dozens of coal plants.

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Biden State of the Union to Cast Climate Bill as Anti-Inflation

william
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the Ukraine ROI in the Biden crime family has turned asymptotically negative!!!

D!

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{ sipping coffee }
Go Bears!
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Redbrickbear said:

RMF5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:






Point?
No point.

Just maps showing timelines of other invasions of similar size countries.

Thought people might find them interesting.
Ok, curious. Ukraine is big, in European terms. Ukraine could feed all of Europe agriculturally if allowed.
Redbrickbear
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RMF5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

RMF5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:






Point?
No point.

Just maps showing timelines of other invasions of similar size countries.

Thought people might find them interesting.
Ok, curious. Ukraine is big, in European terms. Ukraine could feed all of Europe agriculturally if allowed.
Yea I had just been reading about "black soil" or chernozem in Ukraine.

Extremely productive farm land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernozem

https://bunge.com/news/black-earth-makes-ukraine-important-agricultural-destination#:~:text=Did%20you%20know%3F,Organization%20of%20the%20United%20Nations.


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RMF5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

RMF5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:






Point?
No point.

Just maps showing timelines of other invasions of similar size countries.

Thought people might find them interesting.
Ok, curious. Ukraine is big, in European terms. Ukraine could feed all of Europe agriculturally if allowed.
long supply lines are a ***** to maintain.

Go Bears!
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Jacques Strap said:

Thanks to Biden's war on energy, Americans are paying more and Putin wins

Just last week, his administration put new restrictions on building liquefied-natural-gas terminals in the United States, which are needed to liquefy our abundant (and clean) natural gas and place it in tankers to be shipped to Europe and the rest of the world. The cancellation of oil and gas pipelines, such as the Keystone XL, and gas-drilling permits in Alaska, Texas and other oil-rich states have also lowered our domestic production.

Biden says he is "doing everything he can" to bring down gas prices. Wrong. When the supply of a product falls, its price rises. When Trump left office, the price of oil was at roughly $2.59 a gallon nationally. Now it is $3.49 and headed to more than $4 a gallon (and $5 a gallon in California and New York) at the gas pump.

Every barrel we don't produce in Texas and Alaska puts money into the coffers of Russian President Vladimir Putin, helping finance his war machine. Putin loves high oil and gas prices. Chinese President Xi Jinping is also benefiting from Biden's war on American energy, with his country building dozens of coal plants.

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Biden State of the Union to Cast Climate Bill as Anti-Inflation


I don't know if they still do it, but in the past, I've seen some rigs simply burning off the natural gas that comes with extracting oil. Wouldn't it make sense to capture that and sell it to Europe?
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/mar/01/ukraine-russia-latest-news-live-updates-war-vladimir-putin-kyiv-kharkiv-russian-invasion-update


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Russia's defence ministry is warning residents in Kyiv to leave their homes as it plans to strike targets in the Ukrainian capital, Russian state news agency Tass is reporting.

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Five people were killed and five others wounded after Russian forces attacked a TV tower in Kyiv, the Interfax news agency is reporting.
Jacques Strap
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RMF5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

RMF5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:






Point?
No point.

Just maps showing timelines of other invasions of similar size countries.

Thought people might find them interesting.
Ok, curious. Ukraine is big, in European terms. Ukraine could feed all of Europe agriculturally if allowed.
The "Breadbasket of Europe" which is why wheat is up so much
https://www.farminglife.com/country-and-farming/why-is-ukraine-known-as-the-breadbasket-of-europe-heres-what-it-produces-and-exports-3584361

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Ukraine is known as the 'breadbasket of Europe' and is amongst the top three exporters of grain in the world


https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/01/wheat-futures-reach-highest-levels-since-2008-as-russia-invasion-advances.html

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Wheat prices soar to highest since 2008, trade 'limit up' on potential Russia supply hit
Russia is the largest exporter of wheat and Ukraine is among the four biggest exporters of the commodity, according to JPMorgan.
HuMcK
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The top tweet has the beginning of a super fascinating thread embedded in it about Russian comms being monitored.
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BearFan33 said:

Jacques Strap said:

Thanks to Biden's war on energy, Americans are paying more and Putin wins

Just last week, his administration put new restrictions on building liquefied-natural-gas terminals in the United States, which are needed to liquefy our abundant (and clean) natural gas and place it in tankers to be shipped to Europe and the rest of the world. The cancellation of oil and gas pipelines, such as the Keystone XL, and gas-drilling permits in Alaska, Texas and other oil-rich states have also lowered our domestic production.

Biden says he is "doing everything he can" to bring down gas prices. Wrong. When the supply of a product falls, its price rises. When Trump left office, the price of oil was at roughly $2.59 a gallon nationally. Now it is $3.49 and headed to more than $4 a gallon (and $5 a gallon in California and New York) at the gas pump.

Every barrel we don't produce in Texas and Alaska puts money into the coffers of Russian President Vladimir Putin, helping finance his war machine. Putin loves high oil and gas prices. Chinese President Xi Jinping is also benefiting from Biden's war on American energy, with his country building dozens of coal plants.

--------------------------

Biden State of the Union to Cast Climate Bill as Anti-Inflation


I don't know if they still do it, but in the past, I've seen some rigs simply burning off the natural gas that comes with extracting oil. Wouldn't it make sense to capture that and sell it to Europe?
It costs a lot of money to trap and then transport that gas. If you don't have a pipeline for the gas, it is not worth the money or effort.
Since it is clean burning, there is no cost to burn it... no pollution penalty charges. So they burn the gas and capture the oil.

There is so much gas burning in the Eagle Ford fracking zone that the entire area is glowing orange at night. You can see it on satellite images.
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HuMcK said:

The top tweet has the beginning of a super fascinating thread embedded in it about Russian comms being monitored.

Oh look, the crowdstrike co founder whose best buds with Joffe lmao
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HuMcK said:

The top tweet has the beginning of a super fascinating thread embedded in it about Russian comms being monitored.

That is the Soviet way. No Sergeants stepping up to lead a Company if the Commander goes down, I don't think the Russians or Chinese have developed a very robust NCO Corps. I may be wrong, but it does not seem to play out if they do emphasize NCO's like the US, Brits, Aussies and Germans.
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ShooterTX said:

BearFan33 said:

Jacques Strap said:

Thanks to Biden's war on energy, Americans are paying more and Putin wins

Just last week, his administration put new restrictions on building liquefied-natural-gas terminals in the United States, which are needed to liquefy our abundant (and clean) natural gas and place it in tankers to be shipped to Europe and the rest of the world. The cancellation of oil and gas pipelines, such as the Keystone XL, and gas-drilling permits in Alaska, Texas and other oil-rich states have also lowered our domestic production.

Biden says he is "doing everything he can" to bring down gas prices. Wrong. When the supply of a product falls, its price rises. When Trump left office, the price of oil was at roughly $2.59 a gallon nationally. Now it is $3.49 and headed to more than $4 a gallon (and $5 a gallon in California and New York) at the gas pump.

Every barrel we don't produce in Texas and Alaska puts money into the coffers of Russian President Vladimir Putin, helping finance his war machine. Putin loves high oil and gas prices. Chinese President Xi Jinping is also benefiting from Biden's war on American energy, with his country building dozens of coal plants.

--------------------------

Biden State of the Union to Cast Climate Bill as Anti-Inflation


I don't know if they still do it, but in the past, I've seen some rigs simply burning off the natural gas that comes with extracting oil. Wouldn't it make sense to capture that and sell it to Europe?
It costs a lot of money to trap and then transport that gas. If you don't have a pipeline for the gas, it is not worth the money or effort.
Since it is clean burning, there is no cost to burn it... no pollution penalty charges. So they burn the gas and capture the oil.

There is so much gas burning in the Eagle Ford fracking zone that the entire area is glowing orange at night. You can see it on satellite images.
You are incorrect about NO cost to flair Nat Gas. Hell yes there is. I have flared many a gas well over the past several years. What you fail to take into the equation is that someone had to pay for the lease and pay for the drilling of the well. (very costly). We only flare off gas when the price to extract , transport and sell is more than it is worth. Additionally, over the past several years, when the price was really down in the $2 range, I was paying people to take my gas. That is also costly.
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Cobretti said:


Is this serious?
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RMF5630 said:

HuMcK said:

The top tweet has the beginning of a super fascinating thread embedded in it about Russian comms being monitored.

I don't think the Russians or Chinese have developed a very robust NCO Corps.
From what I understand that has long been a Russian weakness. They've made some effort to improve lately, but it seems not enough.
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pretty bad kamala
FLBear5630
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Sam Lowry said:

RMF5630 said:

HuMcK said:

The top tweet has the beginning of a super fascinating thread embedded in it about Russian comms being monitored.

I don't think the Russians or Chinese have developed a very robust NCO Corps.
From what I understand that has long been a Russian weakness. They've made some effort to improve lately, but it seems not enough.
You have to be able to support a family and the perks retirement as an NCO to keep people volunteering. In a society where there is no incentive, why stay when conscription is up?
 
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