Sam Lowry said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Sam Lowry said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
4th and Inches said:
Harrison, dont bother.. Sam rebuts pubmed stuff with checks notes.. wikipedia because ScIeNcE
From Reuters:
"Japanese trading and pharmaceutical company Kowa Co Ltd said on Monday anti-parasite drug ivermectin showed an "antiviral effect" against Omicron and other variants of coronavirus in joint non-clinical research."
Some people will start with the answer and shape the question. Again, who knows what the real-world study results will demonstrate, but we should celebrate not suppress potential treatments. Among a lot of stupidity regarding the pandemic, none is more tragic than the politicized suppression of therapeutics for no rational reason.
Key word being "non-clinical." You're talking about very preliminary stuff (which also happens to contradict the vast weight of evidence from more extensive trials).
It's like you actually read my post - employ that skill next time you go to war over moronic mask "studies."
I read your posts, and ATL's too. I wouldn't be too smug about them if I were you. The gist of you all's argument was that the media were spinning insignificant findings into something that looked important. The eventual rebuttal to the study showed the exact opposite of that. The numbers were in fact so significant that they put the study into the realm of outliers (much like the discredited studies that 4th and Inches is citing on this thread). I don't claim familiarity with the entire scientific literature on masks in schools. As a non-scientist, I missed a red flag and am willing to admit it. You might try doing the same when it's made apparent to you. What's more troubling about the mask thread is the horrendous misreading of mathematical and statistical information that characterized the anti-mask arguments. That isn't something so easily excused as a layperson's honest mistake.
I have always been pretty clear and transparent:
- I stated initially that "let's see what the studies show"
- We should rigorously pursue every possible treatment for SARS-CoV-2 or any disease
I never made any more of the news than was clearly stated nor did I try to dismiss it because it did not fit a particular political narrative. And worth noting, I do not get too worked up about the results of a single study. If anything is obvious there is so much bias in the way studies are conducted from beginning (trial setup) to end (data analysis) that one can often get a study to produce whatever results are wanted.
I do not really have qualified POV on whether these therapeutics work. However, I have seen no reliable data that they do any harm, and there are plenty of experts that strongly believe in their efficacy.
