Canon said:

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timetraveler said:

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Canon said:

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timetraveler said:

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Canon said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Oh good, our Hollywood heroes are here to save the day.

Dear Mister President Vladimir Putin… pic.twitter.com/LbDFBHVWJf

— AnnaLynne McCord (@IAMannalynnemcc) February 24, 2022

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Why does this idiot think she understands Putin or why he is doing what he is doing? What grandstanding hubris. This kind of idiocy is emblematic of why so many people mock the West.

Here's a different take - new one on me.

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"I'm not just a pretty blonde"

Fact Check: FALSE

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I don't know. I bet she's probably good in the sack too.

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Are those the traditional christian values you want Russia to protect?

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Purim's a Democrat, sweetie. That's why he generally waits for democrats to be in charge before he moves. He knows you have his back. He knows you'll remove the sanctions the Republican President placed on him. He knows you'll do nothing to him. You love him.

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You could get a lot of trouble in Russia for running around calling men sweetie. I support your right to love who you want though

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Just trying to use your preferred moniker. Does it upset your boyfriend if someone else calls you that?

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Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Ummmm...what?

MSNBC guest just said Ukrainians can’t find knee pads and it’s something “you need to shoot a gun.” pic.twitter.com/t1LZrmVZBj

— GrantB911 (@GrantB911) February 24, 2022

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Good to know

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He should consult with Kamala... she is an expert on the need for knee pads.

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She didn't need special knee pads to shoot off Willie Brown's gun...

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ShooterTX said:

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ATL Bear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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DancinBear09 said:

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I think it's going to be really, really bad.

Couple scenarios:

1) Russia smashes Ukrainian infrastructure (political, military) and chooses to maintain a military presence. Then an insurgency develops a la Iraq for us. Quagmire. Massive loss of life.

2) Russia smashes and gets to the negotiating table. Withdraws. Ukraine under Russian umbrella. Insurgency develops. Less loss of life.

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If Russia occupied Ukraine, it will be with brutality unknown in Iraq or Afghanistan. He won't attempt to create a locally lead police force, democracy and economy. There will be zero liberty. It will be just like it was in the Soviet days.
One thing that worked in those days was the ability to squash ALL uprisings.
It is foolish to try and compare Iraq to Ukraine. The levels of control and brutality will be unlike anything seen by Americans. Anyone who wants individual liberty in Ukraine has either fled, or is in their car right now trying to get to Poland. There won't be anyone left behind to create anything resembling an armed resistance.

If you were correct, then Crimea would be a quagmire for Russia.. which has not happened.

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Ummm… That's a little too far. Iraq is turning into Iran West and Afghanistan is back to the Taliban. Not saying it might not be harsh, but we're not at Islamist tyranny level just yet.

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He was comparing American "occupation" of Iraq with Russian occupation of Ukraine.
Yes, left to their own devises, the Iraqi and Afghani people can be horribly brutal. What I am talking about is the direct and intentional brutality of the Russians vs the way that America "occupied" Iraq and Afghanistan. America did NOT use brutality as a means of control over the Iraqi people... quite the opposite. America attempted to build an Iraqi police force and an Iraqi military... something that Putin will NOT do with Ukraine. America always had the intention to stand up a free and democratic society in Iraq, so we could leave... this is the polar opposite of the Russian objectives.

Does this explain it more clearly?

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Robert Wilson said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Oh good, our Hollywood heroes are here to save the day.

Dear Mister President Vladimir Putin… pic.twitter.com/LbDFBHVWJf

— AnnaLynne McCord (@IAMannalynnemcc) February 24, 2022

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Why does this idiot think she understands Putin or why he is doing what he is doing? What grandstanding hubris. This kind of idiocy is emblematic of why so many people mock the West.

Here's a different take - new one on me.

https://unherd.com/2022/02/putins-spiritual-destiny/

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ATL Bear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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ATL Bear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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DancinBear09 said:

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I think it's going to be really, really bad.

Couple scenarios:

1) Russia smashes Ukrainian infrastructure (political, military) and chooses to maintain a military presence. Then an insurgency develops a la Iraq for us. Quagmire. Massive loss of life.

2) Russia smashes and gets to the negotiating table. Withdraws. Ukraine under Russian umbrella. Insurgency develops. Less loss of life.

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If Russia occupied Ukraine, it will be with brutality unknown in Iraq or Afghanistan. He won't attempt to create a locally lead police force, democracy and economy. There will be zero liberty. It will be just like it was in the Soviet days.
One thing that worked in those days was the ability to squash ALL uprisings.
It is foolish to try and compare Iraq to Ukraine. The levels of control and brutality will be unlike anything seen by Americans. Anyone who wants individual liberty in Ukraine has either fled, or is in their car right now trying to get to Poland. There won't be anyone left behind to create anything resembling an armed resistance.

If you were correct, then Crimea would be a quagmire for Russia.. which has not happened.

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Ummm… That's a little too far. Iraq is turning into Iran West and Afghanistan is back to the Taliban. Not saying it might not be harsh, but we're not at Islamist tyranny level just yet.

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He was comparing American "occupation" of Iraq with Russian occupation of Ukraine.
Yes, left to their own devises, the Iraqi and Afghani people can be horribly brutal. What I am talking about is the direct and intentional brutality of the Russians vs the way that America "occupied" Iraq and Afghanistan. America did NOT use brutality as a means of control over the Iraqi people... quite the opposite. America attempted to build an Iraqi police force and an Iraqi military... something that Putin will NOT do with Ukraine. America always had the intention to stand up a free and democratic society in Iraq, so we could leave... this is the polar opposite of the Russian objectives.

Does this explain it more clearly?

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Got it. You were saying Russia would be a more brutal occupier in Ukraine than the US was in Iraq or Afghanistan. That I would agree with.

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Ummmm...what?

MSNBC guest just said Ukrainians can’t find knee pads and it’s something “you need to shoot a gun.” pic.twitter.com/t1LZrmVZBj

— GrantB911 (@GrantB911) February 24, 2022

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Good to know

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He should consult with Kamala... she is an expert on the need for knee pads.

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She didn't need special knee pads to shoot off Willie Brown's gun...

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Are you guys talking about oral sex?

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Redbrickbear said:

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HuMcK said:

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Russia is going to win, but not as easily as they expected.

After earlier confusion, more reports now that Russian paratrooper force that seized airfield west of Kyiv has been destroyed in Ukrainian counterattack https://t.co/P8yMwkWtsw

— Neil Hauer (@NeilPHauer) February 24, 2022

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Kyiv is a hot bed of Ukrainian nationalism

Russia is going to have trouble conquering anything west of the Dnieper river.

East of the Dnieper is ethnic russian country.

West is ethnic Ukrainian.

And Kyiv is to the west of the river.

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Booray said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Oh good, our Hollywood heroes are here to save the day.

Dear Mister President Vladimir Putin… pic.twitter.com/LbDFBHVWJf

— AnnaLynne McCord (@IAMannalynnemcc) February 24, 2022

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Why does this idiot think she understands Putin or why he is doing what he is doing? What grandstanding hubris. This kind of idiocy is emblematic of why so many people mock the West.

Here's a different take - new one on me.

https://unherd.com/2022/02/putins-spiritual-destiny/

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While I agree, odd thing to post on a thread where every poster is certain he or she understands Putin and why he doing what he is doing.

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Jacques Strap said:

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What a U turn for the stock market today.

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Fox News’ Peter Doocy: “You’re confident that these devastating sanctions are going to be as devastating as Russian missiles and bullets and tanks?”

President Biden: “Yes, I am.” pic.twitter.com/fqVvsh16PK

— The Recount (@therecount) February 24, 2022

Jacques Strap said:

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Booray said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Oh good, our Hollywood heroes are here to save the day.

Dear Mister President Vladimir Putin… pic.twitter.com/LbDFBHVWJf

— AnnaLynne McCord (@IAMannalynnemcc) February 24, 2022

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Why does this idiot think she understands Putin or why he is doing what he is doing? What grandstanding hubris. This kind of idiocy is emblematic of why so many people mock the West.

Here's a different take - new one on me.

https://unherd.com/2022/02/putins-spiritual-destiny/

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While I agree, odd thing to post on a thread where every poster is certain he or she understands Putin and why he doing what he is doing.

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I view that as an actress reading some lines trying to score a role on a Netflix series. So basically an audition.

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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What a U turn for the stock market today.

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Did you get whiplash? VIX what?

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Biden skips a question on why he does not sanction Putin today. pic.twitter.com/FvLfHoC8K2

— MRCTV (@mrctv) February 24, 2022

Biden: "No one expected the sanctions to prevent anything from happening...Putin's not going to say 'oh, my god, the sanctions are coming.'"

Right after a speech announcing a new round of sanctions. #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/0GctfBmTba

— John Cooper (@thejcoop) February 24, 2022

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So honest question, do y'all think this is the start of what will eventually turn into WWIII?

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Always starts this way. Take something not worth fight for. Consolidate allies. I would bet this expands.

I would say next test case for us to fail is the Baltics. Will we actually go to war over the Baltics? Watch, you will start to hear the cries is it really worth fighting over Latvia or Lithuania? Watch Lithuania, Russian Kalingrad is surrounded by Lithuania and Poland. Next stop on the Putin tour for us to say really go to war over that?

China moved on Taiwan, it us on. Watch South Korea. Watch India/Russian border. South China Sea. Phillipines. Arctic.

It could go quick if Putin and Xi decided the calculus says this is the time and get what they want.

Are there any trips wires outside of US space that would prompt a response? Not according to.many here.

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That, of course, is why Putin and Xi are hot to trot now. They've witnessed that we have become a silly nation fully of silly people and led by a silly leader.

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ScruffyD said:

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this does not have to be such a d!ck measuring contest.

a lot of things brought us to today, plenty of "blame" to go around, for lack of a better word.

what we should do is be unified as a country in our support for another democracy.

that didn't used to be so hard.

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Redbrickbear said:

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ScruffyD said:

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this does not have to be such a d!ck measuring contest.

a lot of things brought us to today, plenty of "blame" to go around, for lack of a better word.

what we should do is be unified as a country in our support for another democracy.

that didn't used to be so hard.

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Ukraine is no more a "democracy" than Russia.

It's an oligarchy riddled with corruption.

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ScruffyD said:

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this does not have to be such a d!ck measuring contest.

a lot of things brought us to today, plenty of "blame" to go around, for lack of a better word.

what we should do is be unified as a country in our support for another democracy.

that didn't used to be so hard.

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Ukraine is no more a "democracy" than Russia.

It's an oligarchy riddled with corruption.

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What an odd thing to believe.

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Redbrickbear said:

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ScruffyD said:

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this does not have to be such a d!ck measuring contest.

a lot of things brought us to today, plenty of "blame" to go around, for lack of a better word.

what we should do is be unified as a country in our support for another democracy.

that didn't used to be so hard.

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Ukraine is no more a "democracy" than Russia.

It's an oligarchy riddled with corruption.

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What an odd thing to believe.

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Ranked #117th in the world.

Extreme corruption

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-anti-corruption-office/31501183.html

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/04/ukraine-oligarchy-deal-russia/

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ScruffyD said:

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this does not have to be such a d!ck measuring contest.

a lot of things brought us to today, plenty of "blame" to go around, for lack of a better word.

what we should do is be unified as a country in our support for another democracy.

that didn't used to be so hard.

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Ukraine is no more a "democracy" than Russia.

It's an oligarchy riddled with corruption.

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What an odd thing to believe.

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Ranked #117th in the world.

Extreme corruption

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-anti-corruption-office/31501183.html

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/04/ukraine-oligarchy-deal-russia/

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Is there any election you don't think was stolen?

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Redbrickbear said:

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ScruffyD said:

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this does not have to be such a d!ck measuring contest.

a lot of things brought us to today, plenty of "blame" to go around, for lack of a better word.

what we should do is be unified as a country in our support for another democracy.

that didn't used to be so hard.

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Ukraine is no more a "democracy" than Russia.

It's an oligarchy riddled with corruption.

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What an odd thing to believe.

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Ranked #117th in the world.

Extreme corruption

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-anti-corruption-office/31501183.html

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/04/ukraine-oligarchy-deal-russia/

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Is there any election you don't think was stolen?

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When did I say any election was stolen?

United Russia wins its elections by wide margins in Russia (its still a corrupt oligarch party)

Sluha Narodu wins its elections as well (its still a corrupt party of the Ukrainian oligarchs)

Do some research.

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ScruffyD said:

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this does not have to be such a d!ck measuring contest.

a lot of things brought us to today, plenty of "blame" to go around, for lack of a better word.

what we should do is be unified as a country in our support for another democracy.

that didn't used to be so hard.

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Ukraine is no more a "democracy" than Russia.

It's an oligarchy riddled with corruption.

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What an odd thing to believe.

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Ranked #117th in the world.

Extreme corruption

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-anti-corruption-office/31501183.html

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/04/ukraine-oligarchy-deal-russia/

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Is there any election you don't think was stolen?

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When did I say any election was stolen?

United Russia wins its elections by wide margins in Russia (its still a corrupt oligarch party)

Sluha Narodu wins its elections as well (its still a corrupt party of the Ukrainian oligarchs)

Do some research.

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I've been to Ukraine about a dozen times in the last decade. Leave East Texas

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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ATL Bear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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DancinBear09 said:

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I think it's going to be really, really bad.

Couple scenarios:

1) Russia smashes Ukrainian infrastructure (political, military) and chooses to maintain a military presence. Then an insurgency develops a la Iraq for us. Quagmire. Massive loss of life.

2) Russia smashes and gets to the negotiating table. Withdraws. Ukraine under Russian umbrella. Insurgency develops. Less loss of life.

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If Russia occupied Ukraine, it will be with brutality unknown in Iraq or Afghanistan. He won't attempt to create a locally lead police force, democracy and economy. There will be zero liberty. It will be just like it was in the Soviet days.
One thing that worked in those days was the ability to squash ALL uprisings.
It is foolish to try and compare Iraq to Ukraine. The levels of control and brutality will be unlike anything seen by Americans. Anyone who wants individual liberty in Ukraine has either fled, or is in their car right now trying to get to Poland. There won't be anyone left behind to create anything resembling an armed resistance.

If you were correct, then Crimea would be a quagmire for Russia.. which has not happened.

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Ummm… That's a little too far. Iraq is turning into Iran West and Afghanistan is back to the Taliban. Not saying it might not be harsh, but we're not at Islamist tyranny level just yet.

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He was comparing American "occupation" of Iraq with Russian occupation of Ukraine.
Yes, left to their own devises, the Iraqi and Afghani people can be horribly brutal. What I am talking about is the direct and intentional brutality of the Russians vs the way that America "occupied" Iraq and Afghanistan. America did NOT use brutality as a means of control over the Iraqi people... quite the opposite. America attempted to build an Iraqi police force and an Iraqi military... something that Putin will NOT do with Ukraine. America always had the intention to stand up a free and democratic society in Iraq, so we could leave... this is the polar opposite of the Russian objectives.

Does this explain it more clearly?

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Got it. You were saying Russia would be a more brutal occupier in Ukraine than the US was in Iraq or Afghanistan. That I would agree with.

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Depends on what part of Ukraine.

Eastern Ukraine is filled with ethnic Russians.

I highly doubt they would want (or need) to be brutal in those areas.

And Western forces I hate to say made a lot of mistakes in Iraq & Afghanistan.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/afghanistan-47-600-civilians-killed-in-20-years-of-deadly-war/2219156

https://archive.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/atrocitindex.htm

https://www.rollingstone.com/interactive/feature-a-team-killings-afghanistan-special-forces/

Again,

War is hell and not a good thing.

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Redbrickbear said:

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ScruffyD said:

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this does not have to be such a d!ck measuring contest.

a lot of things brought us to today, plenty of "blame" to go around, for lack of a better word.

what we should do is be unified as a country in our support for another democracy.

that didn't used to be so hard.

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Ukraine is no more a "democracy" than Russia.

It's an oligarchy riddled with corruption.

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What an odd thing to believe.

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Ranked #117th in the world.

Extreme corruption

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-anti-corruption-office/31501183.html

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/04/ukraine-oligarchy-deal-russia/

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Is there any election you don't think was stolen?

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When did I say any election was stolen?

United Russia wins its elections by wide margins in Russia (its still a corrupt oligarch party)

Sluha Narodu wins its elections as well (its still a corrupt party of the Ukrainian oligarchs)

Do some research.

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I've been to Ukraine about a dozen times in the last decade. Leave East Texas

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I don't live in East Texas…or even in Texas anymore.

But nice bigotry bud

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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timetraveler said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ScruffyD said:

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this does not have to be such a d!ck measuring contest.

a lot of things brought us to today, plenty of "blame" to go around, for lack of a better word.

what we should do is be unified as a country in our support for another democracy.

that didn't used to be so hard.

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Ukraine is no more a "democracy" than Russia.

It's an oligarchy riddled with corruption.

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What an odd thing to believe.

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Ranked #117th in the world.

Extreme corruption

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-anti-corruption-office/31501183.html

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/04/ukraine-oligarchy-deal-russia/

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Is there any election you don't think was stolen?

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When did I say any election was stolen?

United Russia wins its elections by wide margins in Russia (its still a corrupt oligarch party)

Sluha Narodu wins its elections as well (its still a corrupt party of the Ukrainian oligarchs)

Do some research.

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I've been to Ukraine about a dozen times in the last decade. Leave East Texas

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I don't live in East Texas…or even in Texas anymore.

But nice bigotry bud

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I'm sure the french culture of Louisiana has really broadened your horizons

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⚡️Now for sure: Ukraine reclaims the Hostomel Airport near Kyiv from Russia's forces.

Sources: Deputy Interior Minister Anton Herashchenko; Ukrainian parliament's Telegram channel.

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) February 24, 2022

boognish_bear said:

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“The director specially came to Kyiv to record all the events that are currently happening in Ukraine and to tell the world the truth about Russia’s invasion of our country,” a translation of a statement from the Office of the President reads. https://t.co/k88WDgbtGw

— Variety (@Variety) February 24, 2022

“The more people like that — true friends of Ukraine, who support the fight for freedom — the quicker we can stop this heinous invasion by Russia.” https://t.co/k88WDgbtGw

— Variety (@Variety) February 24, 2022

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