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In reply to boognish_bear • 9:14a, 8/14/26
boognish_bear said:

That's productive! I am so sick of hearing "what about Biden" or "Obama was worse", fix it. People *****ed about Biden just as much.
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9:16p, 8/14/26
If that is true… Then we are getting some part of this equation wrong

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In reply to boognish_bear • 9:21p, 8/14/26
boognish_bear said:
If that is true… Then we are getting some part of this equation wrong


The AI bots are not helping the formula.
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12:39a, 8/15/26
Please tell me the GOP midterm message is not going to be…at least we are not Biden/Obama

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In reply to boognish_bear • 11:57a, 8/15/26
boognish_bear said:
Please tell me the GOP midterm message is not going to be…at least we are not Biden/Obama



It's only been <checks notes> 19 months.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 2:49p, 8/15/26
boognish_bear said:

Well. Johnson admitting Trump f-ed up the economy.. Why go to war with Iran after we blew up their nuclear program with the most perfect airstrike ever... Remember?



Because Bibi has something on him.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 3:12p, 8/15/26
FLBear5630 said:
boognish_bear said:

Well. Johnson admitting Trump f-ed up the economy.. Why go to war with Iran after we blew up their nuclear program with the most perfect airstrike ever... Remember?



Because Bibi has something on him.


We've had this "short" conflict with Iran for 6 months now...
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9:01a, 8/16/26
Id bet there are a LOT of people who are thinking this privately

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In reply to Jack Bauer • 9:45a, 8/16/26
Assassin of the left for sure,
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 9:51a, 8/16/26
Jack Bauer said:
FLBear5630 said:
boognish_bear said:

Well. Johnson admitting Trump f-ed up the economy.. Why go to war with Iran after we blew up their nuclear program with the most perfect airstrike ever... Remember?



Because Bibi has something on him.


We've had this "short" conflict with Iran for 6 months now...

The economy has never really recovered since the start on Day 1 of Trump's Trade War. He thinks raising tariffs is the solution to every problem. The man still has no clue how tariffs work and who pays them.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 11:09a, 8/16/26
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Id bet there are a LOT of people who are thinking this privately



No justification for murder, but it does raise interesting questions about the efficacy of our modern insurance structure and morality of placing care decisions in the hands of for profit corporations.

None of the major insurers are great, but United Healthcare has consistently been one of, if not, the worst for medical providers to deny treatment or require physicians to jump through unnecessary hoops to get their patients medically indicated or necessary care.

Socialized medicine isn't the answer, but insurance companies should not be able to delay or deny otherwise covered care because they *think a cheaper alternative is appropriate, or worse, they think a treatment is not needed.

It's not that far of a logical step (though still non sequitur) to say United Healthcare and its leadership has harmed and/or killed millions.
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11:27a, 8/16/26
Blaming health care provides is only half the picture, at best. If we want to blame anyone for the mess that is American hess as others care, the bulk of the blame goes to the government. And if we want real reform that will save us money and give us more freedom and choices, we need to get the government out of the equation as much as possible. Until we have serious deregulation, loosening of restrictions, and transparency it will remain a mess and likely get worse.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 11:40a, 8/16/26
boognish_bear said:


Widespread drought and a massive influx in screworm will do that.

Thank goodness DOGE cut hundreds of the positions monitoring and containing the latter.
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In reply to 303Bear • 11:54a, 8/16/26
303Bear said:
boognish_bear said:


Widespread drought and a massive influx in screworm will do that.

Thank goodness DOGE cut hundreds of the positions monitoring and containing the latter.

Well at least our produce is safe...

Oh wait...


FDA Inspections in 2026: DOGE Didn't Cut Inspectors It Cut Everything Around Them | Policy Canary

FDA Lost 4,300 Staff in 2025. Here's What That Means for… | VeriFoods

The CDC Has a Cyclospora Lab. DOGE Downsized It Last Year | WIRED

Disease Researchers Blame DOGE Cuts for Spiraling Cyclospora Outbreak | Truthout

FDA Considers Ending Routine Food Safety Inspections: Report

Silence on E. Coli Outbreak Highlights How Trump Team's Changes Undermine Food Safety - KFF Health News

But, Elon and Historian know best, Government doesn't help anything. Get rid of any oversight, the food supply will protect it self or better yet the private sector will police themselves...

NHTSA, FAA, DOE what do we need with them for Tesla, SpaceX and the Fusion industry they just hold things up...

DOGE reversal: Firings of US nuclear weapons workers halted | AP News

DOGE Cost-Cutting Efforts Lead to Job Cuts at NHTSA
Elon is going to save us from debt... Geez, you guys are gullible.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 12:15p, 8/16/26
FLBear: " Geez, you guys are gullible"

This from the guy who in another thread opines that Fauci did nothing wrong since he has not been arrested yet.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 12:35p, 8/16/26
Oldbear83 said:
FLBear: " Geez, you guys are gullible"

This from the guy who in another thread opines that Fauci did nothing wrong since he has not been arrested yet.

Geez, charge the guy already.

You in your bean counter after the fact 20/20 way, if the guy did so much wrong charge him. Hell, if people were brought in front of Congress for saying distasteful things Trump and his minions would never get to leave. Why is this guy special? Why? He is a little guy that kept a diary that won't defend himself 90 days before mid-terms, the perfect victim.

It does not matter than none of the claims hold up. Read the science, the MRNA vaccine saved millions from more severe illness. The number of ill effects were extremely low and it served its purpose to keep the hospitals from getting overrun. Where is the negative? There still is disagreement on where it came, that is not criminal.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 12:53p, 8/16/26
FLBear5630 said:
Oldbear83 said:
FLBear: " Geez, you guys are gullible"

This from the guy who in another thread opines that Fauci did nothing wrong since he has not been arrested yet.

Geez, charge the guy already.

You in your bean counter after the fact 20/20 way, if the guy did so much wrong charge him. Hell, if people were brought in front of Congress for saying distasteful things Trump and his minions would never get to leave. Why is this guy special? Why? He is a little guy that kept a diary that won't defend himself 90 days before mid-terms, the perfect victim.

It does not matter than none of the claims hold up. Read the science, the MRNA vaccine saved millions from more severe illness. The number of ill effects were extremely low and it served its purpose to keep the hospitals from getting overrun. Where is the negative? There still is disagreement on where it came, that is not criminal.


There was a time when many here could make an argument without resorting solely to whataboutism and full mischaracterization of the post they are responding to. Alas, we seem to be past those days.

The gnashing of teeth will be fun to watch when Fauci is never charged with anything, same when we are still at war with Iran in 6 months without any clear off-ramp, or when the deficit keeps growing at record pace.

DOGE was a decent idea on its face. It was implemented in the least serious way possible and did nothing of lasting note or benefit. The long term economic harm from outbreaks like screwworm, which would almost have certainly remained contained but for DOGE cuts, will likely match or exceed any of the real savings within 5 years.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 1:26p, 8/16/26
And there it is. One standard for people he wants to accuse, another to excuse anything done by his cult leader.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 1:38p, 8/16/26
Oldbear83 said:
And there it is. One standard for people he wants to accuse, another to excuse anything done by his cult leader.

No proof huh.

So, why do have such a hard on to dance around with a pitchfork? Texas treat you bad during COVID? Did you not get a shot so you couldn't fly? Why the hard on for reading this guys personal notes?
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 1:55p, 8/16/26
So when are you and Fauci tying the knot?
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 5:16p, 8/16/26
There is no evidence supporting your position, huh?

So, we let this guy get strung up. Whose next? Whose personal notes or diary gets read publicly because we dont like the pompous ass? Some State prosecutor should prosecute him if there is evidence.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 5:23p, 8/16/26
You have established you are a liar, you hate Trump, and you will do anything to protect Fauci.

You can stop repeating that in every post of yours.
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5:51p, 8/18/26
These figures seemed lower than I would've guessed. I ran it past Claude and it says the source was BLS data... but these are "medians" and not "averages"...



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In reply to boognish_bear • 6:49p, 8/18/26
boognish_bear said:
These figures seemed lower than I would've guessed. I ran it past Claude and it says the source was BLS data... but these are "medians" and not "averages"...





Is that income from work?
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In reply to D. C. Bear • 6:57p, 8/18/26
D. C. Bear said:
boognish_bear said:
These figures seemed lower than I would've guessed. I ran it past Claude and it says the source was BLS data... but these are "medians" and not "averages"...





Is that income from work?


From Claude fwiw:

The numbers in the tweet are real they match BLS median weekly earnings data, with $59,228 for ages 25-34 and a peak of $70,824 for ages 45-54, and 55-64 at $67,392 and 65+ at $62,296. That's essentially identical to the figures in the tweet, so it looks like it's pulled directly from a BLS-based chart (likely the Visual Capitalist/Voronoi "Median U.S. Salaries by Age Group" chart or something using the same source data).

Where the tweet is misleading isn't the numbers it's the label. These are medians, not averages, and the BLS source is median earnings for full-time wage and salary workers only not all people in that age bracket. That distinction matters a lot:

Median vs. average: median is the middle value, which is what BLS actually reports. A true "average" (mean) would likely be higher, since high earners pull the mean up but don't move the median.
Full-time workers only: part-timers, unemployed, and non-workers in each age bracket aren't counted, so the real average income across everyone in each age group would be lower than these figures suggest.

So the tweet isn't fabricating numbers, but it's mislabeling median-of-full-time-workers as "average income," which inflates the picture of what a typical person in each age bracket actually earns. That's a very common conflation in these viral finance tweets/infographics.
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