"trust us". The govtSam Lowry said:It's not going to be particularly interesting or helpful to Trump. It's one more thing he's been lying about and not even among the most important. Covering it in detail on TV would just be wasting time and running up the score.RMF5630 said:Why a different report? Why isn't it discussed on national TV?Sam Lowry said:Yes, in fact they're preparing a whole separate report on that topic.RMF5630 said:Will it? So far, all we have heard is Trump, Trump, Trump... To the point of what he ate for lunch. I have not heard the Jan 6th Commission discuss what was known/suspected before and who made the decisions not to have a presence. Was Mayor Bowser called before to discuss the National Guard?Sam Lowry said:If that's true I'm sure the interim report will address it.RMF5630 said:No one is asking to defend Trump. But, there was intelligence about several organizations were going to be there and cause trouble, steps were not taken to ensure the Capital was secured. That plays into Jan 6th. It is not all about Trump, there are other things the Jan 6th Commission should be discussing. But, they are micro-focused on Trump.Sam Lowry said:If you asked me to defend Trump and brought me this document as evidence, my objective advice would be that you need to do a whole lot better. There's not one relevant evidentiary point in the entire letter.RMF5630 said:Geez, Sam. ANYTHING that comes out that may show that this was not all Trump is ho-hum.Sam Lowry said:It doesn't really point out anything. All it says is that sometimes people don't take threats seriously enough, he hopes that didn't happen in this case, and there should be an investigation. Not exactly earth-shattering.4th and Inches said:That email points out the absolute failure of the people in charge of the capital police / building security and everybody who can make a decision.Osodecentx said:
Seems to be warning of more than rowdy tourists
He threw his plate being upset after news he didn't like, see lock him up.
Can you try to be a little objective?
The information is already out there. They said as much when they announced the report. That's part of the reason it's not a priority.4th and Inches said:"trust us". The govtSam Lowry said:It's not going to be particularly interesting or helpful to Trump. It's one more thing he's been lying about and not even among the most important. Covering it in detail on TV would just be wasting time and running up the score.RMF5630 said:Why a different report? Why isn't it discussed on national TV?Sam Lowry said:Yes, in fact they're preparing a whole separate report on that topic.RMF5630 said:Will it? So far, all we have heard is Trump, Trump, Trump... To the point of what he ate for lunch. I have not heard the Jan 6th Commission discuss what was known/suspected before and who made the decisions not to have a presence. Was Mayor Bowser called before to discuss the National Guard?Sam Lowry said:If that's true I'm sure the interim report will address it.RMF5630 said:No one is asking to defend Trump. But, there was intelligence about several organizations were going to be there and cause trouble, steps were not taken to ensure the Capital was secured. That plays into Jan 6th. It is not all about Trump, there are other things the Jan 6th Commission should be discussing. But, they are micro-focused on Trump.Sam Lowry said:If you asked me to defend Trump and brought me this document as evidence, my objective advice would be that you need to do a whole lot better. There's not one relevant evidentiary point in the entire letter.RMF5630 said:Geez, Sam. ANYTHING that comes out that may show that this was not all Trump is ho-hum.Sam Lowry said:It doesn't really point out anything. All it says is that sometimes people don't take threats seriously enough, he hopes that didn't happen in this case, and there should be an investigation. Not exactly earth-shattering.4th and Inches said:That email points out the absolute failure of the people in charge of the capital police / building security and everybody who can make a decision.Osodecentx said:
Seems to be warning of more than rowdy tourists
He threw his plate being upset after news he didn't like, see lock him up.
Can you try to be a little objective?
none of this is a prioritySam Lowry said:The information is already out there. They said as much when they announced the report. That's part of the reason it's not a priority.4th and Inches said:"trust us". The govtSam Lowry said:It's not going to be particularly interesting or helpful to Trump. It's one more thing he's been lying about and not even among the most important. Covering it in detail on TV would just be wasting time and running up the score.RMF5630 said:Why a different report? Why isn't it discussed on national TV?Sam Lowry said:Yes, in fact they're preparing a whole separate report on that topic.RMF5630 said:Will it? So far, all we have heard is Trump, Trump, Trump... To the point of what he ate for lunch. I have not heard the Jan 6th Commission discuss what was known/suspected before and who made the decisions not to have a presence. Was Mayor Bowser called before to discuss the National Guard?Sam Lowry said:If that's true I'm sure the interim report will address it.RMF5630 said:No one is asking to defend Trump. But, there was intelligence about several organizations were going to be there and cause trouble, steps were not taken to ensure the Capital was secured. That plays into Jan 6th. It is not all about Trump, there are other things the Jan 6th Commission should be discussing. But, they are micro-focused on Trump.Sam Lowry said:If you asked me to defend Trump and brought me this document as evidence, my objective advice would be that you need to do a whole lot better. There's not one relevant evidentiary point in the entire letter.RMF5630 said:Geez, Sam. ANYTHING that comes out that may show that this was not all Trump is ho-hum.Sam Lowry said:It doesn't really point out anything. All it says is that sometimes people don't take threats seriously enough, he hopes that didn't happen in this case, and there should be an investigation. Not exactly earth-shattering.4th and Inches said:That email points out the absolute failure of the people in charge of the capital police / building security and everybody who can make a decision.Osodecentx said:
Seems to be warning of more than rowdy tourists
He threw his plate being upset after news he didn't like, see lock him up.
Can you try to be a little objective?
Sen. @maziehirono: Fighting the pro-life movement "is literally a call to arms in our country." pic.twitter.com/JCtAwMpzE1
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) September 14, 2022
🚨BREAKING: Never before seen video of January 6 shows Jacob Chansley, the QAnon Shaman, being led through the Capitol by police the entire time that he was in the building. pic.twitter.com/rikoRMWezF
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 7, 2023
The J6 Committee even had the footage showing that what they were saying was a lie yet they continued to lie to you.
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 7, 2023
Evil scumbags. All of them.
What?! The government set a false narrative of a large public event to advance the security and surveillance state? Who could have seen this coming?Doc Holliday said:🚨BREAKING: Never before seen video of January 6 shows Jacob Chansley, the QAnon Shaman, being led through the Capitol by police the entire time that he was in the building. pic.twitter.com/rikoRMWezF
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 7, 2023The J6 Committee even had the footage showing that what they were saying was a lie yet they continued to lie to you.
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 7, 2023
Evil scumbags. All of them.
the govt plot has been..Rawhide said:What?! The government set a false narrative of a large public event to advance the security and surveillance state? Who could have seen this coming?Doc Holliday said:🚨BREAKING: Never before seen video of January 6 shows Jacob Chansley, the QAnon Shaman, being led through the Capitol by police the entire time that he was in the building. pic.twitter.com/rikoRMWezF
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 7, 2023The J6 Committee even had the footage showing that what they were saying was a lie yet they continued to lie to you.
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 7, 2023
Evil scumbags. All of them.
Incredible, he's really going there.
— Peachy Keenan (@KeenanPeachy) March 7, 2023
"Democracy depends on censorship of the press we don't like and on punishing journalists who expose us as frauds and liars" https://t.co/4MeERycZHq
Wow. Very cogent analysis. https://t.co/62jiPTC1VO
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) March 7, 2023
. @TuckerCarlson - Episode II - In 5 minutes … https://t.co/S4bWW6Rl60
— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) March 8, 2023
The woke are more correct than the mainstream*
— Covfefe Anon (@CovfefeAnon) March 7, 2023
Showing the gap between the universally proclaimed narrative of the event and the actual footage from the event *is* a huge threat to "Our Republic".
*in this case this is the mainstream https://t.co/0D9qziHmLx
Schumer lost his soul to power a long time ago.Redbrickbear said:Incredible, he's really going there.
— Peachy Keenan (@KeenanPeachy) March 7, 2023
"Democracy depends on censorship of the press we don't like and on punishing journalists who expose us as frauds and liars" https://t.co/4MeERycZHq
DebunkedRawhide said:What?! The government set a false narrative of a large public event to advance the security and surveillance state? Who could have seen this coming?Doc Holliday said:🚨BREAKING: Never before seen video of January 6 shows Jacob Chansley, the QAnon Shaman, being led through the Capitol by police the entire time that he was in the building. pic.twitter.com/rikoRMWezF
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 7, 2023The J6 Committee even had the footage showing that what they were saying was a lie yet they continued to lie to you.
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 7, 2023
Evil scumbags. All of them.
The Left showing their true colors.Redbrickbear said:Incredible, he's really going there.
— Peachy Keenan (@KeenanPeachy) March 7, 2023
"Democracy depends on censorship of the press we don't like and on punishing journalists who expose us as frauds and liars" https://t.co/4MeERycZHq
Yep.Osodecentx said:DebunkedRawhide said:What?! The government set a false narrative of a large public event to advance the security and surveillance state? Who could have seen this coming?Doc Holliday said:🚨BREAKING: Never before seen video of January 6 shows Jacob Chansley, the QAnon Shaman, being led through the Capitol by police the entire time that he was in the building. pic.twitter.com/rikoRMWezF
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 7, 2023The J6 Committee even had the footage showing that what they were saying was a lie yet they continued to lie to you.
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 7, 2023
Evil scumbags. All of them.
Establishment is upset. They're two peas in a pod.Redbrickbear said:
What is the purpose of the Republican Party again?
It certainly is not to protect its voters.Wow. Very cogent analysis. https://t.co/62jiPTC1VO
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) March 7, 2023
Indeed.Mothra said:Establishment is upset. They're two peas in a pod.Redbrickbear said:
What is the purpose of the Republican Party again?
It certainly is not to protect its voters.Wow. Very cogent analysis. https://t.co/62jiPTC1VO
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) March 7, 2023
Mothra said:The Left showing their true colors.Redbrickbear said:Incredible, he's really going there.
— Peachy Keenan (@KeenanPeachy) March 7, 2023
"Democracy depends on censorship of the press we don't like and on punishing journalists who expose us as frauds and liars" https://t.co/4MeERycZHq
Watched Tucker just to see what all the hub bub was about. He didn't at all suggest Jan. 6th was peaceful. He instead showed footage which proves it wasn't the violent insurrection it was made out to be.
And of course, because that destroys the Left's narrative that this was tantamount to Pearl Harbor and 9/11, the Left is:
Very good point. And they hired a CBS producer to edit it, make it more dramatic, and add sound. But it's Carlson that's "cherry-picking."Johnny Bear said:Mothra said:The Left showing their true colors.Redbrickbear said:Incredible, he's really going there.
— Peachy Keenan (@KeenanPeachy) March 7, 2023
"Democracy depends on censorship of the press we don't like and on punishing journalists who expose us as frauds and liars" https://t.co/4MeERycZHq
Watched Tucker just to see what all the hub bub was about. He didn't at all suggest Jan. 6th was peaceful. He instead showed footage which proves it wasn't the violent insurrection it was made out to be.
And of course, because that destroys the Left's narrative that this was tantamount to Pearl Harbor and 9/11, the Left is:
Nothing outrages the left more than to be confronted with evidence and facts that disprove or even call into question their false narratives and claims. Their totally predictable reaction isn't about the truth or about "saving democracy". It's about panic and fear that they're carefully crafted and choreographed lies about Jan. 6th for the sole purpose of attacking and suppressing Trump and his voters are being exposed.
I find the complaint about selective editing and "cherry picking" video footage especially laughable. What in the world has the left and the Jan. 6th show trial committee been doing with video from that day from the get go along with being super careful to ignore any witnesses and any evidence that might potentially call into question their pre-determined outcome? In addition to everything else, it's hilarious how much these people are such kings and queens of projection.
That in no way addresses the fact the scary shaman guy was being led around the building on a private tour by police who were attempting to open doors and give him access to more chambers. A guided tour is not deescalation, it's approval of presence. It is all right there in video! Also, no mention of the video of the officer that was purported to have been murdered by rioters walking around just fine afterward? That's...predictable.Osodecentx said:DebunkedRawhide said:What?! The government set a false narrative of a large public event to advance the security and surveillance state? Who could have seen this coming?Doc Holliday said:🚨BREAKING: Never before seen video of January 6 shows Jacob Chansley, the QAnon Shaman, being led through the Capitol by police the entire time that he was in the building. pic.twitter.com/rikoRMWezF
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 7, 2023The J6 Committee even had the footage showing that what they were saying was a lie yet they continued to lie to you.
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 7, 2023
Evil scumbags. All of them.
Amazing what you guys will believe. Go to the website for a point by point refutation of Carlson's outlandish claims.
"To this day," Carlson said, "there is dispute over how Chansley got into the Capitol Building." But by whom? They would have to contend with footage already made public showing Chansley entering the building after a fellow rioter shattered and crawled through a window. Chansley testified to that.
Carlson went on to allege that police "helped him," acting "as his tour guides." At one point, Chansley is even escorted through a small cordon of officers, suggesting that the "Q Shaman" saw law enforcement "as his allies." The New York Post draws the conclusion to which Carlson led it, citing a statement by USCP saying the overwhelmed officers were trying to "de-escalate" the situation. "But that does not explain why Chansley, who was unarmed, was able to walk past seven more officers without being apprehended," the Post avers. Yes, it does.
This is hardly the only excruciatingly well-documented example of outmanned police officers calmly engaging with demonstrators, clearing the way for or corralling intruders in the Capitol complex, or retreating to more defensible terrain. Nor is this specific act of deference by Capitol Police officers remarkable. The Post later confirmed that the officer featured in Carlson's footage, Officer Keith Robishaw, spoke with HBO documentarians about his experience with Chansley.
"The sheer number of them compared to us, I knew ahead there was no way we could all get physical with them," Robishaw said. "I walked in behind [Chansley], and that is when I realized I am alone now. I was by myself." Their extensive interaction in the Senate chamber, where Robishaw was surrounded by dozens of other disruptive demonstrators, was filmed up close by New Yorker correspondent Luke Mogelson. You can watch it here. Robishaw's unheeded demands that the demonstrators evacuate the premises indicates, at the very least, that he was no one's "tour guide."
Carlson later asks "what did Chansley do" to deserve the months he's already spent in a jail cell for his conduct on that day. The answer established in court by his guilty plea was criminal obstruction of a federal investigation, for which a judge sentenced him to the "low end" of the prison terms prescribed in federal sentencing guidelines: 41 months.
Suffice it to say the lone officer confronting Chansley was reduced to de-escalatory tactics, in part because his colleagues were engaged in a desperate attempt to secure his flank.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/03/tucker-carlsons-january-6-revisionist-history/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=second
Exactly.whiterock said:
Very little footage of the videos show acceptable behavior by the demonstrators. Some did, for sure. Lots of people made it in and behaved respectfully. Many more didn't.
Literally NOTHING on the videos show an insurrection.
And that is the problem.
The American people can see that very plainly.
Democrats, with key Republican allies, engaged in a patent Reichstag Fire Hoax. To further their own power ambitions.
you need to go to the eye doctor, Furor!whiterock said:
Very little footage of the videos show acceptable behavior by the demonstrators. Some did, for sure. Lots of people made it in and behaved respectfully. Many more didn't.
Literally NOTHING on the videos show an insurrection.
And that is the problem.
The American people can see that very plainly.
Democrats, with key Republican allies, engaged in a patent Reichstag Fire Hoax. To further their own power ambitions.
You're asking the same crowd that says math is racist and men can get pregnant to look at the video evidence objectively? They'll be calling you a Nazi soon enough for such talk.whiterock said:
Very little footage of the videos show acceptable behavior by the demonstrators. Some did, for sure. Lots of people made it in and behaved respectfully. Many more didn't.
Literally NOTHING on the videos show an insurrection.
And that is the problem.
The American people can see that very plainly.
Democrats, with key Republican allies, engaged in a patent Reichstag Fire Hoax. To further their own power ambitions.
Your narrative is disproved on video tapeJohnny Bear said:Mothra said:The Left showing their true colors.Redbrickbear said:Incredible, he's really going there.
— Peachy Keenan (@KeenanPeachy) March 7, 2023
"Democracy depends on censorship of the press we don't like and on punishing journalists who expose us as frauds and liars" https://t.co/4MeERycZHq
Watched Tucker just to see what all the hub bub was about. He didn't at all suggest Jan. 6th was peaceful. He instead showed footage which proves it wasn't the violent insurrection it was made out to be.
And of course, because that destroys the Left's narrative that this was tantamount to Pearl Harbor and 9/11, the Left is:
Nothing outrages the left more than to be confronted with evidence and facts that disprove or even call into question their false narratives and claims.
Was there a riot outside of the Capitol?whiterock said:
Very little footage of the videos show acceptable behavior by the demonstrators. Some did, for sure. Lots of people made it in and behaved respectfully. Many more didn't.
Literally NOTHING on the videos show an insurrection.
And that is the problem.
The American people can see that very plainly.
Democrats, with key Republican allies, engaged in a patent Reichstag Fire Hoax. To further their own power ambitions.
Technically no.Osodecentx said:Was there a riot outside of the Capitol?whiterock said:
Very little footage of the videos show acceptable behavior by the demonstrators. Some did, for sure. Lots of people made it in and behaved respectfully. Many more didn't.
Literally NOTHING on the videos show an insurrection.
And that is the problem.
The American people can see that very plainly.
Democrats, with key Republican allies, engaged in a patent Reichstag Fire Hoax. To further their own power ambitions.
So citizens were peacefully and legally breaking windows and attacking Capitol Police?Redbrickbear said:Technically no.Osodecentx said:Was there a riot outside of the Capitol?whiterock said:
Very little footage of the videos show acceptable behavior by the demonstrators. Some did, for sure. Lots of people made it in and behaved respectfully. Many more didn't.
Literally NOTHING on the videos show an insurrection.
And that is the problem.
The American people can see that very plainly.
Democrats, with key Republican allies, engaged in a patent Reichstag Fire Hoax. To further their own power ambitions.
There was a mass gathering of citizens of the steps of the Capitol.
Something that is certainly NOT illegal.
According to the footage a small number of those starting breaking windows and trying to force there way in the doors and clashing with Police.
99.9% of the 10,000 citizens at the Capitol were NOT doing anything illegal.Osodecentx said:So citizens were peacefully and legally breaking windows and attacking Capitol Police?Redbrickbear said:Technically no.Osodecentx said:Was there a riot outside of the Capitol?whiterock said:
Very little footage of the videos show acceptable behavior by the demonstrators. Some did, for sure. Lots of people made it in and behaved respectfully. Many more didn't.
Literally NOTHING on the videos show an insurrection.
And that is the problem.
The American people can see that very plainly.
Democrats, with key Republican allies, engaged in a patent Reichstag Fire Hoax. To further their own power ambitions.
There was a mass gathering of citizens of the steps of the Capitol.
Something that is certainly NOT illegal.
According to the footage a small number of those starting breaking windows and trying to force there way in the doors and clashing with Police.
You debunk that with your exact quote. According to you, they broke windows, forced their way in, and clashed with police.Redbrickbear said:99.9% of the 10,000 citizens at the Capitol were NOT doing anything illegal.Osodecentx said:So citizens were peacefully and legally breaking windows and attacking Capitol Police?Redbrickbear said:Technically no.Osodecentx said:Was there a riot outside of the Capitol?whiterock said:
Very little footage of the videos show acceptable behavior by the demonstrators. Some did, for sure. Lots of people made it in and behaved respectfully. Many more didn't.
Literally NOTHING on the videos show an insurrection.
And that is the problem.
The American people can see that very plainly.
Democrats, with key Republican allies, engaged in a patent Reichstag Fire Hoax. To further their own power ambitions.
There was a mass gathering of citizens of the steps of the Capitol.
Something that is certainly NOT illegal.
According to the footage a small number of those starting breaking windows and trying to force there way in the doors and clashing with Police.
Unless you think citizens don't have a right to be at the Peoples House at all. (A building they pay for with their tax dollars)
I already said a tiny fraction did break a few windows and engage in fist fighting with Police at or near the doors.
If 10,000 people were intent on committing sedition and engaging in a violent insurrection....that building would be in ashes right now.
Gathering on the steps of the Capitol is NOT illegal.Osodecentx said:You debunk that with your exact quote. According to you, they broke windows, forced their way in, and clashed with police.Redbrickbear said:99.9% of the 10,000 citizens at the Capitol were NOT doing anything illegal.Osodecentx said:So citizens were peacefully and legally breaking windows and attacking Capitol Police?Redbrickbear said:Technically no.Osodecentx said:Was there a riot outside of the Capitol?whiterock said:
Very little footage of the videos show acceptable behavior by the demonstrators. Some did, for sure. Lots of people made it in and behaved respectfully. Many more didn't.
Literally NOTHING on the videos show an insurrection.
And that is the problem.
The American people can see that very plainly.
Democrats, with key Republican allies, engaged in a patent Reichstag Fire Hoax. To further their own power ambitions.
There was a mass gathering of citizens of the steps of the Capitol.
Something that is certainly NOT illegal.
According to the footage a small number of those starting breaking windows and trying to force there way in the doors and clashing with Police.
Unless you think citizens don't have a right to be at the Peoples House at all. (A building they pay for with their tax dollars)
I already said a tiny fraction did break a few windows and engage in fist fighting with Police at or near the doors.
If 10,000 people were intent on committing sedition and engaging in a violent insurrection....that building would be in ashes right now.
"There was a mass gathering of citizens of the steps of the Capitol.
Something that is certainly NOT illegal.
According to the footage a small number of those starting breaking windows and trying to force there way in the doors and clashing with Police."
