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You guys act like this is a novel item the Dems planned for this moment, but in fact the Dems have been on this train since..... Jan 6.

What gets me is how badly Repubs would have lost it had it been roles switched, a bunch of brown, black and Islamic people storming the Capitol. Repubs would be suicide bombing mosques at this point.

All things considered, Dems have done a good job at limiting themselves to some hearings and publicity stunts.

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J.B.Katz said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Just tell us what happened & we can decide what to do.

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Don't you think that's what this is supposed to do?

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No, this is an attempted distraction from the looming electoral bloodbath in November.

I have no sympathy for the morons who went and wreaked havoc in the Capitol Building, and I'd give them the longest sentences available under the law. But (1) our democracy was never in any real danger, and (2) this is obvious political showboating.

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A group of rioters stormed the Capital Building while a critical part of the election and transfer of power was in process, you do not consider that a dangerous precedence?

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These nuckleheads were never in any position to over throw the government of the USA and stop the transfer of power.

And any dangerous precedent had already been set by 3 months of civic riots carried out by the Left that had been ignored, coddled, and even celebrated.

Yet another video you won't be seeing from the Jan 6th committee (sound on) pic.twitter.com/iiX924dBfy

— Doggin Ultra MAGA 'The Minister of Meme' (@RickyBeBack) June 9, 2022

Let me repeat a thousands time over.........TAKING OVER A BUILDING FOR 3 HOURS DOES NOT OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT OR PREVENT AN ELECTION.

Only Congress (at whatever location they decided to convene at or at what time) can decide to legally certify an election.

In this case they waited for the building to be cleared then did it later than night.

[Federal law requires the states to deliver certified electoral college results to the vice president, serving as president of the Senate, and other parties by December 23. Then a joint meeting of Congress is required by the 12th Amendment to count the electoral votes and declare the winners of the presidential election]

The Capitol building itself is not even mentioned in Federal Law.

Congress could meet at the IHOP in Alexandria Virginia if it wanted.

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Didnt Brandon tell us repeatedly you'd at a minimum need F16s? We're there any MAGA F16s?

And since it's pride month we know what maga now stands for. Brandon mentioned it several times today

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I despised Trump before he was elected president and was embarrassed as hell that a crass, corrupt bully like him represented America to the world.

But I never stooped to calling the president of the United States Drunmf or Dumbf or any of the other unflattering nicknames he more than earned.

Because he was our president. Even if he didn't win the popular vote, which is signficant however you dudes choose to restack the deck to justify bully rule and claiming the U.S. isn't a democracy--a talking point that's a clear acknowledgement that a majority of Americans don't share your views, so the plan is to bully and gerrymander us into minority rule.

The Brandon canard is just embarrassing. And so is the gaybashing.

I hope you're one of the posters on this board who didn't go to Baylor. I'd hate to think a graduate of my school was such a dick.

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Brandon

Seriously, you got some massive blinders on if a racist and corrupt person like Brandon doesn't bother you but udou

#Brandon

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The world looks to American democracy as a model for how we should behave.

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Guy Noir said:

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Mothra said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Guy Noir said:

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I watched the hearing and I am surprised because.
1. People still support Trump even though he aligns himself with White Supremacist groups.
2. Trump did incite the protests with his public communications.
3. Some people downplay an attack on Congress.

I have been a Republican all my life but I cannot support any candidate aligned with Trump. I cannot support the Democratic Candidates either.

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Then you deserve ****ty govt that's the antithesis of conservative values.

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What conservative values are you talking about? Are you talking about spending. Trump did nothing to balance the budget. Are you talking about monetary policy? Trump applied pressure on Powell to keep interest rates low and kept the Obama quantitative easing policy in place. I believe this is some of the foundation that has brought us high inflation, now. I realize the Democrats have kicked spending into high gear causing high inflation to become an acute problem, but Trump did contribute a little to the problem.



Mothra, you have presented very few facts and a lot of biased opinion. Did you watch the hearing? Liz Cheney has shown integrity the last several months. Standing up for the truth of this event will cost her politically. When you label her a war monger like her father that is a cheap and untrue argument.

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Are you seriously trying to argue that the country under Biden hasn't taken a serious turn to the left? Do I really need to point out the obvious for you? It shocks me how glib some of you are. Here ya go:

Our borders are basically open right now. Biden is doing nothing to stop the influx. Zero. Trump at the very least tried to make it more difficult. Biden is simply saying come on over. We've had a city the size of Dallas cross the border since Biden took office.

Spending is out of control. You thought Trump was bad, let's talk about the handouts under Biden. Let's talk about build back better. Pork and more pork. It's out of control.

Energy policy has been a total disaster. Biden is not allowing new drilling. He's shutting down pipelines. He's allowing OPEC to dictate supply. As a result we have our highest gas prices ever. Ever.

How about transgender rights. His first couple of weeks in office Biden signs an executive order forcing schools to allow transgender athletes to compete against biological women.

Let's talk foreign policy. Trump adhered to the old Reagan adage of walking softly and carrying a big stick. With Biden, we've already had our fall of Saigon moment in Afghanistan with that disastrous pull out. North Korea is testing nuclear weapons again. And we are closer to war with Russia than at any point since the 80s. It's 1980 all over again.

And of course there are the labor shortages, the food shortages, the gas shortages - it's basically Carter 2.0.

Now tell me something, Guy. Did I really have to point these things out for you? Are you really paying that little attention to what's going on in the world around you? Surely you knew all of the above, right? You're not this glib.

I am no fan of trump and agree with you he was not fiscal conservative. But any conservative who thinks his policies weren't far superior to the current liberal **** show has his head up his ass. Either you are simply not paying a lick of attention or you're just not a conservative.

As for Cheney, she was one of her father's - a bloodthirsty warmonger and liar who got us into the Iraq war - biggest cheerleaders. She has defended him and the Iraq war on numerous occasions. Do a quick google search. There are numerous interviews of her on this subject.

I am thankful that she doesn't have a chance in hell of ever being president.

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I have never stated any support for the current administration. I prefer Republican Policies over the current "Progressive" programs.

I am a fiscal conservative. I am not sure what the conservative platform is anymore. If it is white supremacy, then I do not support that. The Jan 6th event is separate from the Biden Administration Activities.

I think the January 6th events were a serious challenge to the USA Federal Government election process. If Trump would have gotten Pence to throw out the election results while using the riots as a statement of public opinion to justify stopping the transfer of power we might still be waiting to have a new election. Trump could have remained in power for an indeterminate amount of time. (Didn't this happen in Venezuela?)

I ask for the 3rd time. Did you watch the hearing? or did you have your mind already made up. It was a well presented argument.

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Booray said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Mothra said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Mothra said:

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Guy Noir said:

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I watched the hearing and I am surprised because.
1. People still support Trump even though he aligns himself with White Supremacist groups.
2. Trump did incite the protests with his public communications.
3. Some people downplay an attack on Congress.

I have been a Republican all my life but I cannot support any candidate aligned with Trump. I cannot support the Democratic Candidates either.

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Then you deserve ****ty govt that's the antithesis of conservative values.

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What conservative values are you talking about? Are you talking about spending. Trump did nothing to balance the budget. Are you talking about monetary policy? Trump applied pressure on Powell to keep interest rates low and kept the Obama quantitative easing policy in place. I believe this is some of the foundation that has brought us high inflation, now. I realize the Democrats have kicked spending into high gear causing high inflation to become an acute problem, but Trump did contribute a little to the problem.



Mothra, you have presented very few facts and a lot of biased opinion. Did you watch the hearing? Liz Cheney has shown integrity the last several months. Standing up for the truth of this event will cost her politically. When you label her a war monger like her father that is a cheap and untrue argument.

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Are you seriously trying to argue that the country under Biden hasn't taken a serious turn to the left? Do I really need to point out the obvious for you? It shocks me how glib some of you are. Here ya go:

Our borders are basically open right now. Biden is doing nothing to stop the influx. Zero. Trump at the very least tried to make it more difficult. Biden is simply saying come on over. We've had a city the size of Dallas cross the border since Biden took office.

Spending is out of control. You thought Trump was bad, let's talk about the handouts under Biden. Let's talk about build back better. Pork and more pork. It's out of control.

Energy policy has been a total disaster. Biden is not allowing new drilling. He's shutting down pipelines. He's allowing OPEC to dictate supply. As a result we have our highest gas prices ever. Ever.

How about transgender rights. His first couple of weeks in office Biden signs an executive order forcing schools to allow transgender athletes to compete against biological women.

Let's talk foreign policy. Trump adhered to the old Reagan adage of walking softly and carrying a big stick. With Biden, we've already had our fall of Saigon moment in Afghanistan with that disastrous pull out. North Korea is testing nuclear weapons again. And we are closer to war with Russia than at any point since the 80s. It's 1980 all over again.

And of course there are the labor shortages, the food shortages, the gas shortages - it's basically Carter 2.0.

Now tell me something, Guy. Did I really have to point these things out for you? Are you really paying that little attention to what's going on in the world around you? Surely you knew all of the above, right? You're not this glib.

I am no fan of trump and agree with you he was not fiscal conservative. But any conservative who thinks his policies weren't far superior to the current liberal **** show has his head up his ass. Either you are simply not paying a lick of attention or you're just not a conservative.

As for Cheney, she was one of her father's - a bloodthirsty warmonger and liar who got us into the Iraq war - biggest cheerleaders. She has defended him and the Iraq war on numerous occasions. Do a quick google search. There are numerous interviews of her on this subject.

I am thankful that she doesn't have a chance in hell of ever being president.

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I have never stated any support for the current administration. I prefer Republican Policies over the current "Progressive" programs.

I am a fiscal conservative. I am not sure what the conservative platform is anymore. If it is white supremacy, then I do not support that. The Jan 6th event is separate from the Biden Administration Activities.

I think the January 6th events were a serious challenge to the USA Federal Government election process. If Trump would have gotten Pence to throw out the election results while using the riots as a statement of public opinion to justify stopping the transfer of power we might still be waiting to have a new election. Trump could have remained in power for an indeterminate amount of time. (Didn't this happen in Venezuela?)

I ask for the 3rd time. Did you watch the hearing? or did you have your mind already made up. It was a well presented argument.

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Unlike you, Mothra is willing to trade democracy for comfort. When democracy results in policies that hurt his pocket book or offend his religious views he becomes ok with the idea of stealing the government.

Unfortunately, the country currently has about 50 million Mothra's.

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Booray said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Mothra said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Mothra said:

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Guy Noir said:

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I watched the hearing and I am surprised because.
1. People still support Trump even though he aligns himself with White Supremacist groups.
2. Trump did incite the protests with his public communications.
3. Some people downplay an attack on Congress.

I have been a Republican all my life but I cannot support any candidate aligned with Trump. I cannot support the Democratic Candidates either.

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Then you deserve ****ty govt that's the antithesis of conservative values.

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What conservative values are you talking about? Are you talking about spending. Trump did nothing to balance the budget. Are you talking about monetary policy? Trump applied pressure on Powell to keep interest rates low and kept the Obama quantitative easing policy in place. I believe this is some of the foundation that has brought us high inflation, now. I realize the Democrats have kicked spending into high gear causing high inflation to become an acute problem, but Trump did contribute a little to the problem.



Mothra, you have presented very few facts and a lot of biased opinion. Did you watch the hearing? Liz Cheney has shown integrity the last several months. Standing up for the truth of this event will cost her politically. When you label her a war monger like her father that is a cheap and untrue argument.

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Are you seriously trying to argue that the country under Biden hasn't taken a serious turn to the left? Do I really need to point out the obvious for you? It shocks me how glib some of you are. Here ya go:

Our borders are basically open right now. Biden is doing nothing to stop the influx. Zero. Trump at the very least tried to make it more difficult. Biden is simply saying come on over. We've had a city the size of Dallas cross the border since Biden took office.

Spending is out of control. You thought Trump was bad, let's talk about the handouts under Biden. Let's talk about build back better. Pork and more pork. It's out of control.

Energy policy has been a total disaster. Biden is not allowing new drilling. He's shutting down pipelines. He's allowing OPEC to dictate supply. As a result we have our highest gas prices ever. Ever.

How about transgender rights. His first couple of weeks in office Biden signs an executive order forcing schools to allow transgender athletes to compete against biological women.

Let's talk foreign policy. Trump adhered to the old Reagan adage of walking softly and carrying a big stick. With Biden, we've already had our fall of Saigon moment in Afghanistan with that disastrous pull out. North Korea is testing nuclear weapons again. And we are closer to war with Russia than at any point since the 80s. It's 1980 all over again.

And of course there are the labor shortages, the food shortages, the gas shortages - it's basically Carter 2.0.

Now tell me something, Guy. Did I really have to point these things out for you? Are you really paying that little attention to what's going on in the world around you? Surely you knew all of the above, right? You're not this glib.

I am no fan of trump and agree with you he was not fiscal conservative. But any conservative who thinks his policies weren't far superior to the current liberal **** show has his head up his ass. Either you are simply not paying a lick of attention or you're just not a conservative.

As for Cheney, she was one of her father's - a bloodthirsty warmonger and liar who got us into the Iraq war - biggest cheerleaders. She has defended him and the Iraq war on numerous occasions. Do a quick google search. There are numerous interviews of her on this subject.

I am thankful that she doesn't have a chance in hell of ever being president.

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I have never stated any support for the current administration. I prefer Republican Policies over the current "Progressive" programs.

I am a fiscal conservative. I am not sure what the conservative platform is anymore. If it is white supremacy, then I do not support that. The Jan 6th event is separate from the Biden Administration Activities.

I think the January 6th events were a serious challenge to the USA Federal Government election process. If Trump would have gotten Pence to throw out the election results while using the riots as a statement of public opinion to justify stopping the transfer of power we might still be waiting to have a new election. Trump could have remained in power for an indeterminate amount of time. (Didn't this happen in Venezuela?)

I ask for the 3rd time. Did you watch the hearing? or did you have your mind already made up. It was a well presented argument.

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Unlike you, Mothra is willing to trade democracy for comfort. When democracy results in policies that hurt his pocket book or offend his religious views he becomes ok with the idea of stealing the government.

Unfortunately, the country currently has about 50 million Mothra's.

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Cobretti said:

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Liz Cheney reads a Trump tweet from 1/6, but neglects to finish reading the tweet which reads "Go home with love & in peace." pic.twitter.com/zdfW8gNGba

— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) June 10, 2022

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ATL Bear said:

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The Congress of the United States held a prime time hearing to try and shame politicians out of public life with a handpicked committee that excluded opposition panelists and the opportunity for questions, answers, or material to accusations.

I would say we've resurrected the House Committee on UnAmerican Activities, but even they allowed for questions and answers. This was more along the line of Mao's cleansing of the ranks through public struggle sessions.

It's downright frightening what has been pursued and justified to bring Trump down. Don't talk to me about destroying democracy when you'll spy on Americans to get inappropriate indictments, push false foreign intelligence, spend millions on impeachment proceedings that go beyond the scope of purpose, and host kangaroo court proceedings on political enemies. That's using democracy to destroy freedom.

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ATL Bear said:

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The Congress of the United States held a prime time hearing to try and shame politicians out of public life with a handpicked committee that excluded opposition panelists and the opportunity for questions, answers, or material to accusations.

I would say we've resurrected the House Committee on UnAmerican Activities, but even they allowed for questions and answers. This was more along the line of Mao's cleansing of the ranks through public struggle sessions.

It's downright frightening what has been pursued and justified to bring Trump down. Don't talk to me about destroying democracy when you'll spy on Americans to get inappropriate indictments, push false foreign intelligence, spend millions on impeachment proceedings that go beyond the scope of purpose, and host kangaroo court proceedings on political enemies. That's using democracy to destroy freedom.

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ScottS said:

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Cobretti said:

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Liz Cheney reads a Trump tweet from 1/6, but neglects to finish reading the tweet which reads "Go home with love & in peace." pic.twitter.com/zdfW8gNGba

— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) June 10, 2022

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She's a fraud. Her days are numbered.

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Guy Noir said:

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ScottS said:

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Cobretti said:

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Liz Cheney reads a Trump tweet from 1/6, but neglects to finish reading the tweet which reads "Go home with love & in peace." pic.twitter.com/zdfW8gNGba

— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) June 10, 2022

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She's a fraud. Her days are numbered.

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What makes her a fraud? You do not back up your opinion with facts. She has taken a stand to the detriment of her political position.

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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ScottS said:

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Cobretti said:

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Liz Cheney reads a Trump tweet from 1/6, but neglects to finish reading the tweet which reads "Go home with love & in peace." pic.twitter.com/zdfW8gNGba

— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) June 10, 2022

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She's a fraud. Her days are numbered.

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What makes her a fraud? You do not back up your opinion with facts. She has taken a stand to the detriment of her political position.

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she purposefully left off words of the text to change the context- fed definition of a fraud is one who knew or should have known and acted in reckless disreguard for the truth.. she knew and presented the material information in a very biased way. How can you make a choice if you are not presented with the facts. Altered/edited video, out of context/edited quotes. She is not the hero of democracy you claim.

She is a dirty prosecuter hiding vital info from the jury and the defense gets not opportunity to cross or present opposing evidence..

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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ScottS said:

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Cobretti said:

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Liz Cheney reads a Trump tweet from 1/6, but neglects to finish reading the tweet which reads "Go home with love & in peace." pic.twitter.com/zdfW8gNGba

— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) June 10, 2022

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She's a fraud. Her days are numbered.

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What makes her a fraud? You do not back up your opinion with facts. She has taken a stand to the detriment of her political position.

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she purposefully left off words of the text to change the context- fed definition of a fraud is one who knew or should have known and acted in reckless disreguard for the truth.. she knew and presented the material information in a very biased way. How can you make a choice if you are not presented with the facts. Altered/edited video, out of context/edited quotes. She is not the hero of democracy you claim.

She is a dirty prosecuter hiding vital info from the jury and the defense gets not opportunity to cross or present opposing evidence..

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LOL at the old "selective editing" defense...the last refuge of a scoundrel.

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