Can you not identify analytically the gargantuan differences between the small group that entered the TN statehouse and the large crowed that gathered in front of the Capitol on J6?Porteroso said:ATL Bear said:Well killing the VP is assassination and murder, so that's a separate lane. And I'm not for normalizing anything like what happened on Jan 6, so that's a strawman. In fact I break with many Republicans in that I do believe Trump incited a riot. And people were rightly charged and convicted for their acts during the riot. But it was just that, a riot.Porteroso said:
How could you possibly overthrow our government anymore than disrupting the peaceful transfer of power? I just dont get this scenario you fantasize about where ever 4 years a mob breaks into the Capitol to threaten to hang the Vice President if he doesn't throw out the votes of America. Why is it that that is normal to you? Why is it that you want to normalize it as if it wouldn't have any impact?
You can peacefully disrupt the transfer of power via court injunction, a procedural move like Pence was asked to do, as well as non violently occupying the Capitol building. Does that make those others an attempt to overthrow the government? Of course not, because there are many steps beyond that required to even get into the neighborhood of government usurpation. I've been around insurrections in other parts of the world, and this "disrupt a procedure" and "peaceful transfer of power" bit is quite frankly a joke as it relates to framing as insurrection, and is blatantly a political motive to besmirch a wide swath of Americans. Even your response above has fantastical projections of horrible things happening "every four years". As I said above, there's great consternation of "what could have been", which is as unobjective as anything.
How is taking seriously a mob breaching the Capitol with stated intent unobjective? And most Republicans call it a riot, you are simply toeing the party line.
Killing the VP is limited to murder? Has nothing to do with the government? What a joke.
The breached a government building and forced Congress into hiding. They stated their goals put loud, and had they accomplished them, we would have had a military enforced revote, or alternate electors who would have installed Trump as dictator. Dod they stand much of a chance? No. This is being objective.
It is truly amazing your emotions drive your perceptions into the twilight zone.
