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nein51 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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High crimes and misdemeanors.

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No. Just no.

War is miserable. The taking of a life in the name of freedom or safety is never a measure than can or should be taken lightly. Unfortunately, in any conflict, there are deaths that occur that are unintentional, horrible and accidental.

While this is terrible and incredibly unfortunate in no way should it fall on the President's shoulders in the manner you suggest.

He should take responsibility as the buck stops with him. He should speak about it. He should do a lot of things but this notion that we need to impeach every time there is a decision we don't like or a mistake (which is what this is; a failure of intel) is ridiculous and needs to stop.

The bar for impeachment should be incredibly high. My fear is that we have reached a point where every President going forward is going to face impeachment hearings. That is damaging to the country, unproductive and a terrible use of time and money.

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War? I thought this was framed as a "non-combatant evacuation operation" by our fearless leaders?

If Trump can get impeached for making a ****ing phone call, Joe Biden should damn sure be impeached for killing innocent civilians (which included seven children).

I would just settle for Biden leaving office. People are dying due to his piss poor decision making. It is time for him to go.

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nein51 said:

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Trump shouldn't have been impeached over a phone call either. At least not that phone call. Two wrongs don't make a right.

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TexasScientist said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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nein51 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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High crimes and misdemeanors.

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No. Just no.

War is miserable. The taking of a life in the name of freedom or safety is never a measure than can or should be taken lightly. Unfortunately, in any conflict, there are deaths that occur that are unintentional, horrible and accidental.

While this is terrible and incredibly unfortunate in no way should it fall on the President's shoulders in the manner you suggest.

He should take responsibility as the buck stops with him. He should speak about it. He should do a lot of things but this notion that we need to impeach every time there is a decision we don't like or a mistake (which is what this is; a failure of intel) is ridiculous and needs to stop.

The bar for impeachment should be incredibly high. My fear is that we have reached a point where every President going forward is going to face impeachment hearings. That is damaging to the country, unproductive and a terrible use of time and money.

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War? I thought this was framed as a "non-combatant evacuation operation" by our fearless leaders?

If Trump can get impeached for making a ****ing phone call, Joe Biden should damn sure be impeached for killing innocent civilians (which included seven children).

I would just settle for Biden leaving office. People are dying due to his piss poor decision making. It is time for him to go.

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Then you get Harris.

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Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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nein51 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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High crimes and misdemeanors.

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No. Just no.

War is miserable. The taking of a life in the name of freedom or safety is never a measure than can or should be taken lightly. Unfortunately, in any conflict, there are deaths that occur that are unintentional, horrible and accidental.

While this is terrible and incredibly unfortunate in no way should it fall on the President's shoulders in the manner you suggest.

He should take responsibility as the buck stops with him. He should speak about it. He should do a lot of things but this notion that we need to impeach every time there is a decision we don't like or a mistake (which is what this is; a failure of intel) is ridiculous and needs to stop.

The bar for impeachment should be incredibly high. My fear is that we have reached a point where every President going forward is going to face impeachment hearings. That is damaging to the country, unproductive and a terrible use of time and money.

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War? I thought this was framed as a "non-combatant evacuation operation" by our fearless leaders?

If Trump can get impeached for making a ****ing phone call, Joe Biden should damn sure be impeached for killing innocent civilians (which included seven children).

I would just settle for Biden leaving office. People are dying due to his piss poor decision making. It is time for him to go.

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Then you get Harris.

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Understood, but impeachment shouldn't be about political maneuvering. Biden in the Oval office is a political gift to the GOP in 2022 and 2024, but he's getting innocents killed. For the first time since Nixon, we have a POTUS in office who has committed acts which fully justify his removal.

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The mass arrival of Afghan evacuees last month, many in need of medical care, wreaked havoc on Northern Virginia's hospital system prompting a regional emergency response group to assume oversight after one hospital became overwhelmed with patients and federal officials lost track of where some Afghans were hospitalized, officials said.

Area leaders have been asking the Biden administration to pay for the mounting cost of keeping track of the hospitalized evacuees and for giving them rides back to the Dulles Expo Center where they have been temporarily housed after a federal contractor took hours to retrieve some of the evacuees who were ready to be discharged.

One of the evacuees federal officials lost track of was a month-old child with a potentially life-threatening illness, said Kristin Nickerson, the executive director of the Northern Virginia Emergency Response System, which coordinates the region's response during mass-casualty events. The infant was later found, still hospitalized, through a patient-tracking system that her group implemented, she said.

In another case, a hospital near the Dulles Expo Center that federal officials designated as a go-to spot for medical treatment began running out of available beds, forcing the hospital to turn away non-Afghan patients who weren't in need of critical care, said Nickerson, who also directs the Northern Virginia Hospital Alliance and declined to name the hospital.

"Our hospitals are already almost at capacity," she said, referring to the recent surge in coronavirus cases. "It's not like they have tons of free beds available. We are still in the middle of a pandemic."

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SEC BLINKEN: "We expect the Taliban to ensure freedom of travel, to make good on its commitments on counterterrorism, to uphold the basic rights of the Afghan people including women, girls, and minorities." pic.twitter.com/R28DHpexVR

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) September 13, 2021

nein51 said:

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It's free to wish. And I as much as I dislike the way this went down at least we are saying something that implies we have some expectations.

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Doc Holliday said:

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SEC BLINKEN: "We expect the Taliban to ensure freedom of travel, to make good on its commitments on counterterrorism, to uphold the basic rights of the Afghan people including women, girls, and minorities." pic.twitter.com/R28DHpexVR

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) September 13, 2021

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Doc Holliday said:

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nein51 said:

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It's free to wish. And I as much as I dislike the way this went down at least we are saying something that implies we have some expectations.

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He's lying.

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Jacques Strap said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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SEC BLINKEN: "We expect the Taliban to ensure freedom of travel, to make good on its commitments on counterterrorism, to uphold the basic rights of the Afghan people including women, girls, and minorities." pic.twitter.com/R28DHpexVR

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) September 13, 2021

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He is going to be disappointed because his expectations will not be met.

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nein51 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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nein51 said:

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It's free to wish. And I as much as I dislike the way this went down at least we are saying something that implies we have some expectations.

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He's lying.

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I'm aware. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt for at least saying it which is better than silence.

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BREAKING: US to send $64 MILLION in ‘humanitarian aid’ to Afghanistan pic.twitter.com/3LjB7xdaMK

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) September 13, 2021

nein51 said:

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It's free to wish. And I as much as I dislike the way this went down at least we are saying something that implies we have some expectations.

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Jacques Strap said:

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So Navy fires offensive coordinator after losing to Air Force and starting season 0-2, meanwhile nobody has been fired over losing Afghanistan

— Lucas Tomlinson (@LucasFoxNews) September 12, 2021

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nein51 said:

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Clearly money being paid for safe passage wrapped in a pretty bow.

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TexasScientist said:

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nein51 said:

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Clearly money being paid for safe passage wrapped in a pretty bow.

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$1million for the people mullahs, and $63 million for the warlords.

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CSIBear said:

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What do you even do with 64million US dollars in Afghanistan? It would be one thing if it was 64mil worth of rice or bread but say I'm a warlord and I take a few million bucks for myself...who builds my mansion? Can I get a Tesla delivered? Do they even have Sharper Images over there?

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CSIBear said:

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What do you even do with 64million US dollars in Afghanistan? It would be one thing if it was 64mil worth of rice or bread but say I'm a warlord and I take a few million bucks for myself...who builds my mansion? Can I get a Tesla delivered? Do they even have Sharper Images over there?

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CSIBear said:

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What do you even do with 64million US dollars in Afghanistan? It would be one thing if it was 64mil worth of rice or bread but say I'm a warlord and I take a few million bucks for myself...who builds my mansion? Can I get a Tesla delivered? Do they even have Sharper Images over there?

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Women do not live in Kabul only! In the countryside of Afghanistan, the endless killing of civilians turned Afghan women against the occupying American forces who claimed to be helping them. https://t.co/CV3w0AWL9f

— Ashok Swain (@ashoswai) September 6, 2021

nein51 said:

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CSIBear said:

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What do you even do with 64million US dollars in Afghanistan? It would be one thing if it was 64mil worth of rice or bread but say I'm a warlord and I take a few million bucks for myself...who builds my mansion? Can I get a Tesla delivered? Do they even have Sharper Images over there?

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They used to have an Apple store. Kabul was not quite as backwards as you may think. But 64 mil goes a long way there.

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Reading all of this makes me so damn proud to be a soldier in the US National Guard.

Well done, Bastards. You nobly carried on in the tradition of all those other Guard units in first and out last, across our history.https://t.co/zYnJVF7H1n

— Angry Staff Officer (@pptsapper) September 16, 2021

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It was a humbling two weeks. Humbling because all that had been worked for, all the blood that had been shed, seemed in vain. That's what news articles and social media pundits were saying back home. But as G.K. Chesterton once wrote, hope means hoping when everything seems hopeless, or else it is no virtue at all. Somehow we all experienced hope, that thing with feathers that perches in the soul, that sings without the words, and never stops at all.

One of our soldiers was a refugee himself. His parents had fled Vietnam. He broke down as he saw in these Afghan families his own family and his own story. With tears in his eyes, he realized what they had done, what they had sacrificed, for him. His hope? He hoped the kids that were boarding the planes to safe havens would grow up like he did happy and healthy and that they would never have to do the job he was doing.


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In spite of adversity, hope remained. Sgt. 1st Class Izaak Schafer, an Iraqi war veteran and first platoon sergeant, had a candid conversation with one of the men who spoke perfect English. "What do you think of America leaving? Did we did I let you down?' Schafer asked. "No," the Afghan replied, "We love you. You were our friends for 20 years, and we lost our country in a matter of weeks. We bled together. We died together. I am excited to become an American. I am already an American here," as he pointed to his chest.

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Oldbear83 said:

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nein51 said:

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CSIBear said:

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What do you even do with 64million US dollars in Afghanistan? It would be one thing if it was 64mil worth of rice or bread but say I'm a warlord and I take a few million bucks for myself...who builds my mansion? Can I get a Tesla delivered? Do they even have Sharper Images over there?

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They used to have an Apple store. Kabul was not quite as backwards as you may think. But 64 mil goes a long way there.

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A good down payment on the Apple Allah.

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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nein51 said:

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CSIBear said:

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What do you even do with 64million US dollars in Afghanistan? It would be one thing if it was 64mil worth of rice or bread but say I'm a warlord and I take a few million bucks for myself...who builds my mansion? Can I get a Tesla delivered? Do they even have Sharper Images over there?

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They used to have an Apple store. Kabul was not quite as backwards as you may think. But 64 mil goes a long way there.

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A good down payment on the Apple Allah.

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That they can use while cruising around in their new Humvee.

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nein51 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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nein51 said:

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CSIBear said:

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What do you even do with 64million US dollars in Afghanistan? It would be one thing if it was 64mil worth of rice or bread but say I'm a warlord and I take a few million bucks for myself...who builds my mansion? Can I get a Tesla delivered? Do they even have Sharper Images over there?

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They used to have an Apple store. Kabul was not quite as backwards as you may think. But 64 mil goes a long way there.

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A good down payment on the Apple Allah.

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That they can use while cruising around in their new Humvee.

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I can tell you've never ridden in a Mil-Spec Humvee before.

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The U.N. Security Council unanimously approved a resolution Friday saying that Afghanistan's new Taliban rulers need to establish an inclusive government that has "the full, equal and meaningful participation of women" and upholds human rights.

The resolution adopted by the U.N.'s most powerful body also extends the current mandate of the U.N. political mission in Afghanistan for six months and delivers a clear message that its 15 members will be watching closely what the Taliban do going forward.

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